Grand Wizard Theodore and Mean Gene-Live on 3rd Avenue-Ballroom-Part 1-1977.

This is rap history!

[@Neurozumim]

So for now this is the oldest hip hop mixtape available online unless someone knows better.

[@RobertoGinsburg]

Nerozumim Also, fortunelly, exist in KZbin a sesion of a Block party from 1977 by DJ Stevie Dee & Rodney C.

[@Neurozumim]

Roberto Ginsburg Thank you very much for this information!

[@360grafics]

internet can be a positive place now and then ;)

[@sgtbones1837]

DJ Stevie Steve tape might be the oldest.

[@brucebanner3935]

i dont think this is 77

[@tonycrush3401]

THAT'S ME DJ TONY TONE in the picture

[@hammerheadmatt9987]

That's amazing, you still work those turntables?

[@spectralv709]

You’re a part of history, man

[@taogoat27]

respect to the legend

[@keyscored3710]

YOOOO amazing

[@nlite10nd1]

what up tone I used to be at the school CES 63 when they would bring their set out dj break out would be at 168 and tinton avenue dam this takes me back to the beginning of hip hop 169th and franklin ave fultin ave washington webster wow I COULD GO ON AND ON LOL I remember we used to chase fat joe out the park

[@missfrances137]

My family moved to the Bronx from Harlem in 1975. We actually lived in the house next door to D.J. KOOL HERC building on Sedgwick Avenue at 1526. I recently heard that our house was torn down but it can be seen in the movie about Hip Hop called, "THE GET DOWN". Back then we would attend Herc's parties at 1520 and at the parties in the various parks in the Bronx. I left the Bronx in 1980 but I have been back and I am proud of the memories I have.

[@blackpalacemusic]

Did you go to Herc's parties before his 1973 Jam?? Most people think the 1973 party was the beginning, but in an interview his sister said they were doing parties before but those were house parties.

[@ohhenrycandybar]

This needs to be preserved in the Library of Congress

[@adamnorzagaray2657]

This isn't just rap history. This is American history!

[@3rdStoneObliterum]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6DEnIOAZ7egr8k

[@HarlemTalkradio]

Black American history. Let's honor and preserve our history and phenomenal culture.

[@fatherfire4343]

@@HarlemTalkradio Black New York history

[@ChanceMinus]

I lived in Bronx River during this time. The parties in Bronx River Center during the winter, and behind the Center during the summer time were epic. Bam. Zumbu, Islam and Jazzy Jay played all of these classics.

[@niqulusviii987]

the fact that you can still feel and hear all the frequencies from this tape lets you know how hard they were rockin

[@rogerrice5325]

Word, I feel like I’m in the spisot

[@marycharles146]

Grand wizard... Mixing Paradise & I can't stop!! Original Disco sounds B4 it was called Hip-hop! Theodore one of the best things in the beginning of this music style of scratching & mixing! Shout out to DJ Divine The Infinity Machine, South Side, Jamaica Queens, u better ask somebody!

[@yeahrightuhhhuh4931]

Yes maam ... shout out to the Disco Twins

[@tyrolen8888]

Today the rapper gets all the fame. Back then, the DJ was the MAN!! Jammin in the park Bed-Stuy Brooklyn New York 12 years old in 1977!!

[@w.p.caldwell2318]

That's a FACT !!

[@traum640]

Realize that The Grand Wizard Theodore was 14 in 1977.

[@milesIronwood93]

that shangri la break was released 1978 tho

[@traum640]

14-15 then

[@blake-qh9xp]

i was 15 and blown away, i had my first two turntables SL 210s and a Numark, couldnt tell me shit, other than i wasnt as nice as Theodore lmao but i worked it lol

[@jsaulkane5893]

the date felt off to me too.. that vocoder track at the start..

[@ratking9577]

@@jsaulkane5893 he did actually start in 1977

[@gilsantos7701]

Gil 180 BX classic classic I love it these were my years 🇵🇷💯🇵🇷💯😎💪🏼

[@kylejohnson9727]

Drunk history be hookn me up on some legendary shit

[@sethmeyer2443]

As soon as Star Wars came out, it was sampled. I love it.

[@ratking9577]

Yeah that caught me off guard when I heard it

[@3hooks781]

There were a few disco records of the Star Wars theme released in 1978. This sounds like one of them.

[@ElaineThompson]

@@3hooks781 There was only one disco Star Wars theme, by Meco. It was released in fall of '77 and immediately shot to the top of the charts. I recognized it the moment the needle dropped. It's wild hearing it in the middle of a hip-hop groove.

[@3hooks781]

@@ElaineThompson You are correct! Back then it just seemed like disco and star wars were everywhere! I think I was confusing the song with the John WIlliams disco version of Close Encounters.

[@ElaineThompson]

@@3hooks781 Don't forget Hooked on Classics!

[@terrinceautry]

Hip-hop 101. When it was an itty-bitty baby

[@superblue2983]

So true sir, hip hop at her infancy, and man it was fun!

[@KevinP32270]

AGREED.

[@kelwinharris4631]

History Lesson!!!

[@rogerrice5325]

This jawn is a Masterpiece 🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🤜🏾🤜🏾🤜🏾🔥🔥Chester Pa Stand All the Way Up

[@newbornalien]

this must have been insanity back then

[@KevinP32270]

HELL YEA.

[@DJB635]

4Sho

[@keyscored3710]

mannn it's crazy coming back here, and seeing how much the genre has changed over the years

[@jax2428]

Not for the better....

[@coreyoliphant3268]

Peace to the Gods Peace to the Earth. Thanks for this flash back. Big Up to Theodore. Yes Yes Yall! Aaaaaight!

[@stevefuxyou7511]

He is 14 years old!

[@dialtone21]

Grand Wizard Theodore

[@KevinP32270]

AMAZING.

[@Upnorthish]

I go back on the day with the L-Brothers in the Bronx...D.J. Mean Gene, D.J. Cordy-O & D.J. Grand Wizard Theodore !

[@RobertoGinsburg]

Rashad Williams All the funky/old school people fans here desires a TIME MACHINE!

[@freddyb6105]

Wasn't Flash with them at one point?

[@djhardcorproductions6132]

@@freddyb6105 They were all cool and Flash taught Theodore how to mix

[@yeahrightuhhhuh4931]

Claudio . . .

[@Gunnercv]

Great history

[@rogerrice5325]

Is it Funky enough for ya 🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🎶🎶🎶🎶🤜🏾🤜🏾🔥🔥

[@DJB635]

Paradise is very nice.......This is fresh.....Miss these days!

[@palmerochs2989]

Thanks Questlove

[@jaythehorsehunter]

this shit is at least ten years ahead of its time

[@MrKidBusy]

so true. sounds like nothing else before it.

[@NOXX1985]

this was the best shit I've heard in years, and I was born in 1985 😩

[@Renee-ln9mp]

Hello ur a year younger than my son. The Super Babies of 1985, 86 & 87 love this unique mix of amazing music, because The Ol Skool Parents, (young like Me 😉) played this & other music around Our Children to hear, as well as appreciate all kinds of music. ✌🏾 ☮️ Peace & Blessings ❤

[@gnosferatu667]

1981 born.. 1985 was the jawn from what I remember too and yes all the OGs put us up on these joints from way back then as far as we can remember and started to pay attention!! We knew better too even back then!!

[@DarkMajava]

Fuck yeah! Thanks so much for this gem!

[@MrBBoyBugs]

😉

[@djpricekut517]

This is the earliest one ive heard.

[@RobertoGinsburg]

DJ Pricekut Fortunelly maybe no: exist a DJ Stevie Steve, Rodney C & Lil Shotgun also of 1977.

[@KevinP32270]

THE ORIGINATOR!!!!

[@hartwellperkins2040]

Mean gene ,G W T older brother , use to underplay with GM Flash back in the days

[@lcchill]

12:12 and 12:31 are so divine!!

[@ramonramos9675]

the L Brothers... mean gene... cordio & theodore "Livingston"... rock on

[@yeahrightuhhhuh4931]

Claudio . . . Maste Rob, Kevie Kev, Busy Bee, MC Smiley

[@njjjjjjjjhhhs]

thanks for this

[@rogerrice5325]

Cmon man!!!

[@onetimepeace]

RESPECT PERIOD,

[@freddyb6105]

So before Theodore you only heard the blend not the scratch into the blend. GWT brought the scratch in as another beat

[@Pintkonan]

holy shit, nice (= so this is it, where it all began?

[@Upnorthish]

In the background is Bambaata & Busy Bee Starski !

[@RobertoGinsburg]

Rashad Williams Yes!

[@chasbronson3855]

Only if you could of been there when it was born!!!!! glorious!!! I'm talking before anyone got on the MIC

[@chasbronson3855]

I was, it was glorious... right after disco, which was the shit too But this shit, hip hop without the MC, out of this world

[@DJB635]

It was about the dj back then

[@rayortiz8937]

To my man Theodore What up My Brother Morris High school yall use to call me Brooklyn Because the way I Dressed I Rocked Corduroy pants Mock neck shirt London Fog Jacket Kangol Hat and Play boy shoes Uptown Rocked British Walkers Lee pants AJ Lester sweater and maybe a sheep Dog ! WORD!!!!!

[@blake-qh9xp]

reading your comment i know this " you was one cool motherfucker " WORD, 6th borough newburgh ny ya heard

[@RobertoGinsburg]

8 Lil Wayne and Childish Gambino fans thumb down this historic masterpiece of *true Hip Hop* .

[@chasbronson3855]

Damm, cut off right at King Erickson I used love when DJ’s mixed that

[@christophermayfield6492]

i was in this err i live on bostan rd and propect ave

[@njjjjjjjjhhhs]

Wow great drop

[@edcook3620]

Look at Bam in the background lookin mean as hell

[@kevinkirkland4577]

Scoping the crowd for boy booty

[@christiez1228]

That picture is of Tony Tone of the Cold Crush Brothers ....

[@Marcus-nt8yx]

Facts

[@tonycrush3401]

Tony tone, Bambaataa and Busy Bee...

[@tonycrush3401]

I still don't know if he was, but I do know if he was he's the only person that has to deal with it...

[@sexxmode3197]

+Tony Crush Horrible Tone. A cat everyone loved and crowned him with so much respect. it wasn't a secret he loved the same sex but not The Kids😠

[@auburnwithalake]

Who was diddling little boys?

[@Isabellarose848]

3:57

[@OfficialRodneyClark]

3:32

[@Mr223P]

Sorry to cast doubt on this but Shangri La wasn't released until 1978? I mean there may have been promos of it around earlier, but a year earlier? Hmmmm......

[@cmoreglobal834]

1977??? Then it Had to be after May 25, 1977 because Star wars premiere...La Pregunta ‎- Shangri La Had no promos and released in 1978. Sounds like he was cutting a clean copy also take note if you listen carefully - NO Scratching or Rubbing yet around this time just Merry go round Cuts on a belt Drive TT with lots of Plastic and a 45 glued to the mat underneath ;). The Rapping Style fits into 1978. This tape was probably recorded with a JVC Boombox. They had dope built in mikes

[@Mr223P]

@Francisco Maninho no it’s definitely 70’s, as cmore global says it is early with the style of cutting, certainly before 1980

[@swadetrackz]

yo what is that first breakbeat? by the percs and drums, sounds like it could be ralph mcdonald or donald byrd, or ronnie laws

[@RobertoGinsburg]

swadetrackz good point..

[@blake-qh9xp]

i like your ear

[@nurikops]

1:02 temazo "Apache", no podía faltar

[@RobertoGinsburg]

Nurikops De The Incredible Bongo Band de Michael Viner. Ve *"Sample This" por Netflix, documental que cuenta su historia* .

[@rogerrice5325]

Pat don’t go to that door 😂😂😂😂😂

[@alexanderisaac5842]

Reminds me of the Valley Park in the '70s

[@DJB635]

Mean Gene on da scene!

[@metalmachtbumm8590]

I like the funky eargasms from 12:53 on...

[@Diaz23]

whats the song that starts at 7:52? It says paradise is very nice.. lol

[@MrBBoyBugs]

La Pregunta - Shangri La

[@Diaz23]

MrBBoyBugs thank you :)

[@kennethholloway4738]

Juju man to start, classic..

[@josuearceo2178]

Pretty sure this is 1978 (according to Steven Hager's book and interview with Theodore).

[@brucebanner3935]

i dont know why they like pushing the year back. troy smith does the same thing too

[@johnhill9445]

CLASSIC THE SOUL COMMITEE ALLIANCE NYC

[@nikoflow_fm9541]

isn’t the break from shangri-la from 1978?

[@fatherfire4343]

Did this really happen in 77 ?

[@hartwellperkins2040]

Underfeated force , - W - Amazing Bomb bay , Coolie Breeze , T LA ROCK & My self B.O. ZONK . 167st , grant in effect !!!

[@horrorflikmusickofficialyo1014]

Y'all are Hip Hop legends.Respect long live the Old School Hip Hop.

[@firstschoolrap9801]

What on earth is the drumbreak that he starts this set with..does anybody know???before he starts Apache...

[@juanmanuelgomez4190]

do not worry about the breakbeat is not so important

[@firstschoolrap9801]

juan manuel gomez aaah but you don't understand..i kind of owe my daily bread to drumbreaks..quite important i would say:)

[@naqibshamsuri6719]

juan manuel gomez the breakbeat is THE MOST important. It truly is the foundation of hiphop.

[@popcornslife1691]

+first school rap I'm going to guess and say it's a cut from that Captain Sky Album that has Super Sporm on it

[@popcornslife1691]

+Popcorns Life ...but if this Jam was done in 1977, it couldn't be from that Captain Sky Vinyl.

[@petrektek1385]

Meaning Theodore was 14... Impressive.

[@wdls1]

DYNAMITEEEEEE! 😎👊

[@brucebanner3935]

who's the emcee speaking on the mic

[@niqulusviii987]

what is the song at 11:50?

[@jax2428]

Magic disco machine - scratchin

[@infomattersmost]

looks like a meteor clubman one-one dj mixer

[@zeitok8]

so considering is a sample from star wars, this is after june 77, interesting see how almost all was there by this time, i don´t consider the rappop in the charts hip hop, just pop icons.

[@djskinnytaulilo-makaea89]

DJ grand wizard Brooklyn Hip Hop New York

[@RobertoGinsburg]

cannon Taulilo-Makaea No desde *el Bronx, no Brooklyn* .

[@MrGTO-ze7vb]

Apache

[@potatosfortots9909]

by chance does anyone know the song at 5:33 ?

[@deejaymek]

David Matthews - Star Wars from Dune album

[@potatosfortots9909]

@@deejaymek thanks a ton

[@DJB635]

The Year of the blackout in nyc

[@thegrandcanyonisegypt2489]

Tariq brought me here 💃🏽✊🏽

[@jadewarrior6665]

who is mean gene?

[@szychaczynkaxd7177]

MC!

[@Samuelrodrigues_]

1:09

[@iyamwhite3931]

No vocabulary back then, "N on. n on. n on n on. pop pop corn pop pop pop corn". this is garbage .. Where is 9th Wonder and Madlib

[@theharshtruth8563]

Madlib and 9th were probably up your ass sideways.

[@DJB635]

WHO!@@theharshtruth8563

[@nelsonpotter4483]

THIS IS FUCKING BRILLIANT FOR THE 70s Hip hop The only time hip hop was alive 1977-2003