Zoro Just Made a Big Mistake

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@ChocolateBadness
@ChocolateBadness 11 ай бұрын
Kaido actually does have future sight. He even used it blind, stinking drunk, so he's probably really good at it.
@IndoorGarden420
@IndoorGarden420 11 ай бұрын
Nah kaido just fights better drunk
@FNCSBossBaby
@FNCSBossBaby 11 ай бұрын
Yeah bros a 1 handed Aussie 😂
@Sunaki1000
@Sunaki1000 11 ай бұрын
​@@IndoorGarden420He said he had it.
@lonewolf9325
@lonewolf9325 11 ай бұрын
Kaido does have, and used it against Gear 5 Luffy, though it was shown better in anime, subtle signs of red eyes just before Goofy Luffy about to run here n there and attack him with Lightning. Kaido always jumped straight to Luffy, keeping up with the ridiculous power.
@TheRockerX
@TheRockerX 11 ай бұрын
​@@lonewolf9325that Gear 5 moment was anime original. In the manga, Kaido used future sight against Gear 4 Snakeman to dodge Luffy's punches
@TheKnockout756
@TheKnockout756 11 ай бұрын
Liam I believe you misspoke! Kaido in his fight against Luffy does indeed say “you’re not the only one who can see the future” which would imply Kaido does have future sight. I believe this happens in their 2nd confrontation on the roof after Luffy rides on Momo
@IndoorGarden420
@IndoorGarden420 11 ай бұрын
He does have future sight
@peepeevs
@peepeevs 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, pretty sure he had it, although from what the panels showed, as well as the fact that he doesn't seem to use it much, it isn't the best.
@aethelrid7530
@aethelrid7530 11 ай бұрын
100% has future sight
@bowlingwynaut
@bowlingwynaut 11 ай бұрын
luffy rides on momo 😮
@notforyou2893
@notforyou2893 11 ай бұрын
He did use it to escape snake man by turning into his gigantic dragon form and mimicking Luffy bending attacks by bending his own body to bite Luffy followed by blasting him through onigashima with his aura breath.
@itsuki333
@itsuki333 11 ай бұрын
If anything, Kaido proves how stupidly broken the addition of future sight to an already broken arsenal is. The one time he used it to flex on Luffy, he absolutely outplayed him.
@Catking-reeeeee
@Catking-reeeeee 11 ай бұрын
The fact that people claim that ulti is stronger then katacuri based on the 1 headbutt she threw at luffy combined with her durability is crazy
@GhengisGoon
@GhengisGoon 11 ай бұрын
She's not even the strongest tobi roppo.
@fw_ACE_
@fw_ACE_ 11 ай бұрын
Because of scaling, from wci to wano has a huge power cliff because the manga needed stronger characters to feel more like a challenge then the previous ones.
@adammk8473
@adammk8473 11 ай бұрын
​@@fw_ACE_thats just a misunderstanding by powerscalers mainly due to the one scene of luffy getting knocked out by kaido. Oda actually did a pretty good job at figuring out a way for luffy to match up to kaido in a short time and it was with Ryou aka advanced armament haki. Since it was stated by many characters that kaidos scales were far too difficult to penetrate and that luffy needed ryou to actually deal damage to kaido. What supports this is the fact that at no point in the series did luffy ever get magically stronger without some serious training or unlocking a new ability. And realistically luffy only ever trained once during the timeskip, all of his other powerups were either very very gradual or he just unlocked new abilities.
@royalfun1031
@royalfun1031 11 ай бұрын
​@@adammk8473Post ts u mean
@fw_ACE_
@fw_ACE_ 11 ай бұрын
@@adammk8473 what does all of this have to do with my point, you could've summarized this
@Biyonzo
@Biyonzo 11 ай бұрын
Kaido did say that he can see into the future aswell. He does have future sight
@CCsp1520
@CCsp1520 11 ай бұрын
he use it in 1042 to bit up snake man luffy
@nicholaswilliams4632
@nicholaswilliams4632 11 ай бұрын
Yep, was about to say that myself
@IndoorGarden420
@IndoorGarden420 11 ай бұрын
Yup he does
@Profitglutton90
@Profitglutton90 11 ай бұрын
He explicitly said that in both manga and anime. So Liam dropped the ball on that one heavy.
@SamWickens
@SamWickens 11 ай бұрын
One element that might make a difference is familiarity. Most of Zoro's fights are puzzles where he needs to understand how his opponent works before he can take them apart. With Katakuri he has a head start, because his powers are so similar to Luffy's to begin with.
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 10 ай бұрын
Counter Argument : Zoro also loses his greatest weapon and would be at a steep disadvantage if he fought Katakuri He is white
@cassiusfelix2805
@cassiusfelix2805 8 ай бұрын
Very True
@Amoeby
@Amoeby 6 ай бұрын
​@@sephikong8323 haven't thought about this 🤔
@obezy8705
@obezy8705 11 ай бұрын
Kaido literally used future sight against snakeman, kaido is just so fast and durable that he never really feels the need to use it. Also conqueror's has a massive speed boost as we saw with luffy easily dodging thunder bagua in his base despite barely dodging it before with just future sight
@زینبواحدی-ي8ه
@زینبواحدی-ي8ه 11 ай бұрын
No that was because in chapter 1037 Luffy used gear 2 to dodge thunder bagua(you can see the pose before he dodges it) but in chapter 1001 Luffy was in base therefore slower.
@ricksterre
@ricksterre 11 ай бұрын
Conquerors isn't a speed boost at all. It boosts attack power.
@psyachu
@psyachu 11 ай бұрын
I think you left out an important ability that does make Zoro have an attack that could go slightly in the direction of snake man. The inexplicable ability asura where he basically clones 2 extra of every sword and the body part holding the swords. Nobody knows how it works, but the clones are there for a reason, and I think having 9 swords being flung at you by the future greatest swordsman would be confusing and hard to avoid.
@William180-s9e
@William180-s9e 11 ай бұрын
It’s possible he could tank direct hits in that form also
@bryant5786
@bryant5786 11 ай бұрын
Asura has never been shown to give zoro speed it’s really just a powerboost
@cassiusfelix2805
@cassiusfelix2805 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it would
@ekalbtratloc8107
@ekalbtratloc8107 11 ай бұрын
I feel like there were far more actually important variables in this that gave Katakuri the edge. Like with the time constraint, Zoro could straight up die for taking too long whereas Karakuri would just be getting hangry.
@cantor4554
@cantor4554 11 ай бұрын
Wait, didn't Kaido have future sight? He told Luffy in the fight that he's not the only one with it. Am I wrong?
@thebloo12
@thebloo12 11 ай бұрын
He did
@IndoorGarden420
@IndoorGarden420 11 ай бұрын
Yes he has it
@vizqueljordan6700
@vizqueljordan6700 11 ай бұрын
Yes and he wasn’t using it against zoro
@alifputrawan9565
@alifputrawan9565 11 ай бұрын
You're right ! he has it !
@bigboyballs3487
@bigboyballs3487 11 ай бұрын
kaido does have future sight he just uses it once in chapter 1042 just read the comments and everyone is saying this so I'll add that Kat would be willing to take the swords off zoro just like how he stopped luffy going gear 4th in chapter 883 but zoro would probable get Kat's respect in which case he would stop trying to.
@greenet5018
@greenet5018 11 ай бұрын
I've been binge watching the Blue Banana Podcast since I discovered it last week and the amount of times I've heard about Liam's life size Zoro statue is staggering
@schippes24
@schippes24 11 ай бұрын
well, if you buy a statue for i dunno.. 2000dollar.. you might as well brag about it :D
@greenet5018
@greenet5018 11 ай бұрын
@@schippes24 I neither blame him nor am I complaining 😂
@jaman2393
@jaman2393 11 ай бұрын
Feels like the value of future sight is necessarily dependent on how its used. Kaido, being the previously invulnerable monster he was had no need for something that wouldn’t change the way he fought. Even luffy’s original use of FS is just a copy of what katakuri does. Katakuri’s use of FS was the perfect blend with his paramecia, like the mochi he used it flexibly. Place me firmly in the “underrated” camp for future sight.
@SummerTalion
@SummerTalion 11 ай бұрын
Katakuri’s power feels gimmicky at the highest level. He’s never gonna lose to people objectively weaker than him but won’t overcome those objectively stronger either. Zoro is linearly strong giving him the ability to hang with much stronger opponents but also be able to lose to weaker ones that can hard counter him and in this case Katakuri. That said Zoro has more room to improve and when the gap between his ceiling and floor closes he will propel to the truly elite level. Whereas Katakuri is so dependent on future sight if he choose to not use it in battle to hone the other aspects of his skill he will have a major handicap and likely have to start from scratch if he wants those skills to be relevant at a high level fight.
@cassiusfelix2805
@cassiusfelix2805 8 ай бұрын
Yes good points
@Infinite160
@Infinite160 11 ай бұрын
I think it's one of those situations where once an enemy is defeated, they're suddenly seen as a lot weaker than they really are. I'm sure that if Kizaru is really down for the count, we're going to have "Can post Egghead Zoro take on Kizaru?".
@killer-9000
@killer-9000 11 ай бұрын
That's a strawman argument there's real evidence and reasoning why people say theirs a wano power cliff and that zoro scales above Katakuri.
@ricksterre
@ricksterre 11 ай бұрын
What dude said above me. Evidence: Beginning of Wano Bounceman Luffy (who is relative to Katakuri) got one shot AND speed blitzed. 3 weeks later he pulls up and manages to dodge Kaido's attack that PREVIOUSLY SPEED BLITZED BOUNCEMAN...in BASE. As well as clashing and tanking SEVERAL hits (again, previously got one shot). That means that in just 3 weeks Luffy got around 4x stronger and faster (or maybe more) which puts Luffy's BASE at above Katakuri. Plus he advanced all haki by I think his 2nd or 3rd fight, so he just gets even more powerful. To the point where base luffy could likely mid diff Katakuri. To tie this back to Zoro, I'm pretty sure Base luffy is relative to Zoro after the king of hell power up. Zoro might even be as strong as gear 2nd. The issue is that he doesn't also have future sight, but at this point his speed far surpasses Katakuri (especially being able to keep up with Flames off king and pretty much blitzing him). And Luffy confirmed that future sight is countered by pure speed. Against Katakuri only due to him being Awakened I believe Zoro would mid-high diff, since katakuri has crazy counters to Zoro but zoro outscales HEAVY atp in strength, speed, durability, and endurance. In conclusion: the infamous wano powercliff is real
@bryant5786
@bryant5786 11 ай бұрын
@@ricksterrejust cuz luffy got stronger doesn’t mean everyone else did And we didn’t see luffys speed get any faster in base it’s just that he was calm during the raid while being enraged when he first fought kaido It’s been clearly established that you cant use observation haki if your emotions aren’t intact
@b.k.5667
@b.k.5667 11 ай бұрын
​@@ricksterreluffy needed to get a lot stronger because his opponent in wano was a yonko that is obviously a lot stronger than katakuri. Zoro now had to fight a commander so he got to first commander level (like katakuri). The characters did get stronger but that's because they fought higher ranked opponents not because beast pirates are above big mom pirates
@Lamorinc
@Lamorinc 11 ай бұрын
Nice effect with the lights making one green and the other purple
@Asko83
@Asko83 11 ай бұрын
I hate powerscaling. It all boils down to "my favourite character is better than your favourite character" more than anything else. Discussing how different types of powers and Devil Fruits of One Piece setting would work together or against each other can be interesting, but even that often leads to online arguments over meaningless things.
@Gelos.
@Gelos. 11 ай бұрын
This is so true, especially with One Piece.
@notforyou2893
@notforyou2893 11 ай бұрын
I guess people are going to say Usopp no diff Akainu because Usoland is their favorite character .
@durpanda123
@durpanda123 11 ай бұрын
Yeah honestly at the end of the day the characters are as strong as Oda writes them to be, it's a story, not everything is going to make 100% sense to everyone. The fights are going to go the way Oda wants them to and I wouldn't want it any other way, people need to get over themselves tbh.
@Vih-le2hj
@Vih-le2hj 11 ай бұрын
Powerscaling was making sense like years ago but right now there's so many annoying people that spin everything to agenda because like you said they like a character more than the other.
@hrs29
@hrs29 11 ай бұрын
And how fighting techniques interact. Nami beat Ms. Doublefinger thanks to her unique knowledge of weather and Usopp's creation. Could she beat her without those? Probably not. Could she defeat her again? Probably (especially with Zeus) but now Ms Doublefinger is more aware of Nami's abilities and will fight accordingly.
@chrisbotha7433
@chrisbotha7433 11 ай бұрын
I think the real situation with futuresight is that once it is introduced it's one of those things that becomes a real pain pervasively😅 As illustrated by Katakuri, I think you become basically unbeatable for 99% of opponents if they don't have futuresight and you have it to any noteworthy degree (i.e. a couple of seconds). So to preserve one's sanity, I think the when a known proficient futuresight user clashes with someone else it has to be assumed that they have atleast the level of futuresight required for it to be a non-factor, and that by Oda not drawing attention to it it implies it's not a noteworthy feature of the battle.
@thetruecakehead
@thetruecakehead 11 ай бұрын
to dumb it down, Zoro wouldnt win by future sight even if he did obtain it (still could very much win though)
@azraeldusk2154
@azraeldusk2154 10 ай бұрын
Not really. For most, having future sight would be a hindrance in a fight instead of helping. You need to also be able to make use of your future sight. What good does it do me to be able to see 2-3 seconds in the future if I do not have the reaction speed to utilize it? Can you imagine the concentration even needed for someone to be focused on combat, but also deal with and take into account flashes of the future that they keep repeatedly seeing whilst in combat? It is not like they have prior knowledge of what is gonna happen upon which they act. They learn now, what's gonna happen...now. (get the pun? because the in-between time had already passed by the time I was writing the second now). You could argue that all who have future sight are capable enough to use it mid-combat without it being a hindrance. However, Kaido doesn't. If Kaido could use future sight repeatedly mid-combat and have it not be a malus to him, he would have. The fact that the strongest creature in existence did not spam an ability he obviously had is pretty much proof enough that even if one does have it, it doesn't mean they can use it to OP levels.
@goatboiii3407
@goatboiii3407 11 ай бұрын
kaido does have future sight but he only used it once just to flex on luffy lmao
@brainbrudah1085
@brainbrudah1085 11 ай бұрын
I love that GrandLineReview completely disassociates awakening(the ability to make things into your devil fruit substances) and turning your non-logia body into your devil fruit substance to manipulate and move out of the way of attacks.
@kang1629
@kang1629 11 ай бұрын
i think katakuri is a better fighter than king, but king is just simply way more durable and has a few more powerful attack imo, and zoro’s amount of attack he can take is crazy high so i doubt kat could take him down
@thetruecakehead
@thetruecakehead 11 ай бұрын
i think thats why the whole haki timer on enma was brought up
@kang1629
@kang1629 11 ай бұрын
@@thetruecakehead true, i think i just be commenting too early sometimes
@MrAnonymousization
@MrAnonymousization 11 ай бұрын
Kaido used future sight in 1042 I thought.
@Bladeslingersgamepreserve
@Bladeslingersgamepreserve 11 ай бұрын
It’s a tricky match up for sure. I think if Zoro as he is now where to fight katakuri as he was when he fought Luffy, I’d say for sure, Zoro wins but I feel that’s ignoring Katakuri as a character. I garentee if Katakuri where to encounter the strawhats again, he will have leveled up his game. Maybe combining armorment Haki with his mochi body to increase his durability. Wouldn’t that be f***ing broken.
@thetruecakehead
@thetruecakehead 11 ай бұрын
its weirdly the perfect matchup
@N8sClips
@N8sClips 11 ай бұрын
Theory: Zoro vs Katakuri will end the same way Vin Diesel and The Rock's fights do in Fast and Furious...with a contract saying neither can ever lose again and they will have a convenient outlet to part ways each time.
@safaqqu7398
@safaqqu7398 11 ай бұрын
Kaido has future sight, he said it to Luffy, something like: You think you are the only one who can see the future?
@ridhosaputra3936
@ridhosaputra3936 11 ай бұрын
Yeah i wanna say that too😏😅
@sharebear421
@sharebear421 11 ай бұрын
The better matchup is katakuri vs king. That Muhammad Ali part was funny af though 💀
@Onepiecefan95
@Onepiecefan95 11 ай бұрын
Kaido had Future sight.(When Luffy used it against him he stated and i Quote"Dont think you are the only one who can see into the future").
@Onepiecefan95
@Onepiecefan95 11 ай бұрын
For me that is the hard Confirmation that he is able to do it as well.(I think he more or less just chose not to use it since his main goal was to have epic death witch sadly didnt happen for him). Or Luckly for us.
@duval7660
@duval7660 11 ай бұрын
7:33 holup, did I hear Kaido does not have future sight?
@ecstqsyy
@ecstqsyy 11 ай бұрын
Kaido definitely has future sight. It was even used during his fight with luffy
@enomisv9830
@enomisv9830 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for breaking this down logically instead of saying "Zoro no diffs"
@teoolson3323
@teoolson3323 11 ай бұрын
I feel like the reason people overestimate observation haki is because it was the first advanced haki we saw used in a tough fight against our mc. I think people underestimate it because of how powerful advanced conquerers haki is. I think that future sight is neat but people had a lot more time to ruminate with it rather than advanced conquerers which we only just recently got. And the power scalers in the op fandom have been running around with the idea that the top tiers in op all have future sight and that's what makes them the best.
@thetruecakehead
@thetruecakehead 11 ай бұрын
if kizaru had future sight he'd be unbeatable
@Tankirb
@Tankirb 11 ай бұрын
I've seen the opposite from my experience. I've seen most powerscalers say that adv coq is what makes a character a high tier
@Capricius
@Capricius 11 ай бұрын
The editor had a field day with this one😂 (notes Girantina)
@Gekai94
@Gekai94 11 ай бұрын
I believe Kaido used future sight in his fight with Luffy, but also said it is very draining.
@kamaldeepatkar3081
@kamaldeepatkar3081 11 ай бұрын
1:17 his studio is spacious, well lit up with white walls *shock*, I always imagined it being a small dark room because of the dark theme background he has in the videos
@Damian_Howl
@Damian_Howl 11 ай бұрын
I think people underestimate Zoro's hand to hand combat. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he can beat someone like sanji in hand to hand combat, but I do think he can keep up ( especially due to his far superior strength ) .
@IndoorGarden420
@IndoorGarden420 11 ай бұрын
Oh if serious I see him beating Sanji as he is stronger than black foot sanji
@lazylonewolf
@lazylonewolf 11 ай бұрын
I refuse to believe he doesn't have some aikido skills
@alicepbg2042
@alicepbg2042 11 ай бұрын
he did fight sanji without swords during the davy back fight
@Damian_Howl
@Damian_Howl 11 ай бұрын
​@@alicepbg2042 I know right , that's why I strongly believe that he can at the least keep up .
@joydjinn8692
@joydjinn8692 11 ай бұрын
@@IndoorGarden420 But what about Ifrit jambe Sanji? I'm sorry but Zoro need his sword for this one and even with that, it not sure that he'll win.
@MainGoldDragon
@MainGoldDragon 11 ай бұрын
I love how unbiased and technical this video is!
@thatdelta
@thatdelta 11 ай бұрын
With the level of advancement Kaido possesses, he obviously has future-sight. Also katakuri has conquerors he doesnt have 'conquerors infusion'.
@IndoorGarden420
@IndoorGarden420 11 ай бұрын
Wth is conquerors infusion heard of conquerors haki
@royalfun1031
@royalfun1031 11 ай бұрын
​@@IndoorGarden420Advanced Conq
@Bostumo
@Bostumo 11 ай бұрын
7:32 I’d just like to add that Kaido used future sight against luffy to dodge lightning, they used the same animation effects as they did with katakuri
@alexanderpulido3666
@alexanderpulido3666 11 ай бұрын
Not only that, kaido explicitly says to luffy that he can use future sight in his thieving dragon form, he used it to avoid the black mamba attack
@codeme1529
@codeme1529 11 ай бұрын
Katakuri was by the side of the emperor whole his life, I doubt that he was never told that one can infuse oneself or weapons with CH thus he was simply unable to do it. Like Kaido said, "what will this knowledge give you?" (or something like that). Knowing that it is possible does not necessarily imply that everyone can do it. Probably every first crewmate with CH (Katakuri, Reilegh etc) at some point becomes aware of this feature but in the end, it is all about their capability to actually apply it. Hence, Katakuri, though being one of my favorite characters, would not be able to learn advanced CH from Zoro whereas Zoro might still learn advanced OH.
@thetruecakehead
@thetruecakehead 11 ай бұрын
that is purely based on an "if" factor, though Oda may end up surprising us
@ricksterre
@ricksterre 11 ай бұрын
Zoro managed to learn advanced Conquerors in the same arc that he awakened it, bro is actually a beast
@bryant5786
@bryant5786 11 ай бұрын
Zoro doesnt have acoc tho
@HateSonneillon
@HateSonneillon 11 ай бұрын
My girlfriend works for a company that distributed those coffee cans and brought me a box of them. I had a collection of different cans stacked up in a triangle. Had all the emperors including Whitebeard, Blackbeard, Shanks, Big Mom, Kaido, and a several other characters.
@Kabra2012
@Kabra2012 11 ай бұрын
I personally think the Speed difference is decisive here, especially with Kat having Long-Range attack options (Zoro can't just wait for Kat to close distance to land shots). On the other hand, mid-fight adaptations can go any direction Oda wants it to go. Due to that, speculation doesn't matter
@Aurraislame
@Aurraislame 11 ай бұрын
I mean zoro is definitely faster than kat but ok?
@G4Gano
@G4Gano 11 ай бұрын
"A steaming pile of Conqueror's Haki"!!? xD xD I love this guy!
@lotzemadeit9053
@lotzemadeit9053 11 ай бұрын
Kaido did demonstrate future sight against luffy and even said he can do it too
@mr_a_1159
@mr_a_1159 11 ай бұрын
Yes also gear 5 Luffy vs Kaido when Luffy use the lightning ⚡️ Kaido used future sight to dodge the attack
@account-sy7nj
@account-sy7nj 11 ай бұрын
Katakuri needs to have semi logia effects Like mochi can be cut , but if you just mold it like clay itll just return to its original mass and shape And katakuri must return with advanced conquering haki And ryuo too I think itll be a stallmate Unless both of them go all out But both of them are too tough to die by one another Like how marco isnt strong enough for king and queen but cannot be defeated by them
@IndoorGarden420
@IndoorGarden420 11 ай бұрын
Lol katakuri I used to hate when he would eat mochi and doughnuts omg that big arse mouth like a pelican
@distributistsshrekvideo
@distributistsshrekvideo 11 ай бұрын
what do you mean ryuo? That's just the word wano people have for haki. You mean advanced armament?
@account-sy7nj
@account-sy7nj 11 ай бұрын
@@distributistsshrekvideo yeah sorry not fully in tune
@soturiks
@soturiks 11 ай бұрын
It's ok that chimney was part of Gold Rodgers crew at one point so it doesn't count. Don't worry Zoro fans your boy is still on his impressive winning streak. Keep it up.
@ronelwynne1410
@ronelwynne1410 11 ай бұрын
7:33 didn't kaido use future sight once in his fight with luffy ,but i believe he doesn't like using it[flirty drunk kaido chapter 1042]
@KingLiebert
@KingLiebert 11 ай бұрын
"Offscreened Ulti" Hurts so bad after jujutsu kaisen
@md_zabiuddin_247
@md_zabiuddin_247 11 ай бұрын
Zoro fans like
@parzavaal5335
@parzavaal5335 11 ай бұрын
Ong
@meltdown2264
@meltdown2264 11 ай бұрын
Zoros wins though
@alexbrandao8062
@alexbrandao8062 11 ай бұрын
​@@meltdown2264with what proof?
@wearemusichq1417
@wearemusichq1417 11 ай бұрын
​@@alexbrandao8062he has better feats read the manga
@SoupSter19
@SoupSter19 11 ай бұрын
@@wearemusichq1417narative broski
@jeeto9017
@jeeto9017 11 ай бұрын
This is why we don’t let one piece KZbinrs make powerscaling videos
@tadohara
@tadohara 11 ай бұрын
One piece power creep is crazy, it's insane how Zoro's bounty (and maybe strength) has already surpassed Katakuri's even though the straw hats have been together for like a year
@guyatwork5527
@guyatwork5527 11 ай бұрын
Take it as the straw hats are people who find themselves in numerous fights and push through to get the win. Essentially if anyone in one piece keeps doing the same successfully, then no matter what starting point you were at power wise, you could reach top tier levels as long as you don't hit a wall.
@kage_okamiX
@kage_okamiX 11 ай бұрын
Dude I love these kind of videos, and picturing Kat with advanced conquerors got me hype, this matchup is closer than I thought
@brawl8
@brawl8 11 ай бұрын
I maybe mistaken. But kaido was predicting luffy moves at one point during their fight. He even commented on luffy use of future sight. I took it to mean that it doesn’t matter because luffy can’t hurt him and that he too can use future sight. As he proceeded to dodge luffy attacks . Luffy noticed that kaido was dodging his advanced armament blows
@Rubberman202
@Rubberman202 11 ай бұрын
0:25 - Man, One Piece fans certainly have some strange takes. Like, I still can't get over how many people were legitimately convinced that Caesar Clown would join the crew, because "the crew needs a scientist" or some nonsense. Edit: Also, a lot of people already said this, but yeah, Kaido has Future Sight, he just doesn't use it that much, presumably to make fights more interesting.
@utsav6969
@utsav6969 11 ай бұрын
Who do you think is the strongest swordsman after mihawk currently in the story ? Is it fugitora the one from the 5 elder or anyone else ?!
@BruceCruce
@BruceCruce 11 ай бұрын
Dwayne ''the rock'' johnson
@f.f.7138
@f.f.7138 11 ай бұрын
maybe shanks?
@cesarthebruinboy
@cesarthebruinboy 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha the clip of the one piece tcg match between Katakuri and Zoro was hilariously surprising since I’m an avid enjoyer of said game. I also happen to follow that particular content creator, The Strongest Wizard, and have been to those local tournaments. Small world.
@SamanyuDKumar
@SamanyuDKumar 11 ай бұрын
just to be told, Ashura mode overwhelmed Kaido and was very fast even for him, it was kaidos speed n agility (which isnt something ud say he has but he does like, he was a yonko!) so zoro enters ashura and even future sight cant have him dodge and katakuri gets one shot! IF ZORO IS ABLE TO FIND HIM THAT IS!
@notforyou2893
@notforyou2893 11 ай бұрын
The Katakuri slander is insane. Hitting Kaido with an attack is nothing noteworthy. This dude Kaido was tagged by litteraly every attacks and made a point to not dodge at all. Because using your logic here Snake man was tagging Kaido hybrid form having that man screaming for his life. Yet Snake man could Barely touch Katakuri Katakuri stronger than Kaido confirmed ?
@SamanyuDKumar
@SamanyuDKumar 11 ай бұрын
@@notforyou2893 Kaido tanked the attacks and katakuri evaded em, there is a difference, plus kaido doesnt use future sight! and Katakuri wasnt that durable too! And when i said zoro attacking Kaido, i meant when he cut him in Asura form hitting kaido and making a cut like Kozuki Oden, it is a big feat!
@notforyou2893
@notforyou2893 11 ай бұрын
@@SamanyuDKumar Kaido have future sight. When Luffy was using Snake man he was hitting Kaido so hard he was screaming for his life then said don't assume you are the only one who can see the future then he also started dodging in his dragon form. Snake man is the form Luffy was using to keep up with Katakuri as Bound man couldn't attack with enough speed. Yeah Katakuri is no joke if Kaido had to start dodging attack from Luffy. You mention Zoro being relative to oden which is nonsense. When oden attacked Kaido he knocked him out of his transformation. When Zoro did it Kaido was bored .
@yrusb
@yrusb 11 ай бұрын
You know it´s interesting how nowadays, we call a difference of 54 million berries meaningless while Luffy´s first bounty was 30 million and everybody went nuts about it
@TheBigE9999
@TheBigE9999 11 ай бұрын
My logic is that while Zoro is strong enough to beat mochi man, Katakuri is unmatched in skill and experience. He's got so many decades on Zoro in sheer amount of experience that Zoro can't touch him. Zoro's used conquerors haki maybe 3 times while Kata has it on lock
@meraj5393
@meraj5393 11 ай бұрын
time isn't important buggy is older then zoro. he is definately not more experienced.
@TheBigE9999
@TheBigE9999 11 ай бұрын
@meraj5393 key word is experience, not time. Buggy spent a few decades chilling in the east blue, while Katakuri was Big Mom's favorite attack dog. Probably the only reason his bounty isn't in the 2 billion range is that he's more useful to her on the island watching out for attacks
@TheSukari
@TheSukari 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately experience means very little in the world of One Piece. Luffy has more or less beaten many characters who were twice his age and twice as experienced. Shanks became a Yonko six years ago and he's also younger and technically less experienced than Kat. Everyone's growth rate and peak are different and unfortunately for Kat, Zoro's ceiling is a lot higher. Do I think Kat could possibly beat Zoro? Maybe. But by the end of the story Zoro will eclipse Kat and all of Kat's experience and years gap will go out the window to someone who achieved more power in less time
@LMProductions99
@LMProductions99 11 ай бұрын
Kaido does have future sight. But, the thing about future sight is that when a character is using it, that character is seeing the future in first person, obviously. So, if a character is using future sight, they would have to face the correct direction when using it, so their "eyes in the future" can see what's about to happen a couple of seconds in the future. And then the character has to understand what they saw when using future sight in order for that person to use it effectively. For example; when Katakuri was fighting Snake Man, Katakuri had a hard time understanding why he kept getting hit. And that's because Snake Man attacks kept hitting Katakuri outside of his field of view. So when Katakuri peeked into the future, he had no idea why he kept getting hit. It was only until Katakuri decided to use future sight in different directions to see what was going on. And that's when he saw in the future that Snake Man's attack were hitting him outside his field of view at the very last second. And once he realized how exactly he was getting hit, then he was able to counter. That's basically how future sight works. I think future sight would be more effective against Zoro since Zoro's attack are far more straightforward than Snake Man's attacks. Zoro usually attacks an opponent from the front, and usually anime slice dash passed an opponent when Zoro is trying to deal a finishing moves. Zoro's moves are powerful, but usually straightforward. And because Zoro is a more straightforward fighter and not a tricky technical fighter, than future sight, should work well against him. Since Katakuri should see every single attack that Zoro dishes out. But, just as Liam said, this fight could go either way.
@nerdcorner2680
@nerdcorner2680 11 ай бұрын
Wano really broke the one piece powerscale by giving Luffy absolutely stupid boosts in power, making base Luffy be stronger and possibly faster than G4 bounceman and then got more boosts on top of that, and Zoro still hangs around his power. So you can either think all Wano characters are stronger than Katakuri or the more logical bandaide to this issue is Katakuri was weaker in his fight with Luffy because he had no will to fight, and is actually much stronger than we saw
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 11 ай бұрын
If Zoro had been part of the Sanji Retrieval Team, he would definitely take glee in commiting wedding party crashing and also beat up Sanji's brothers and Judge too as well.
@phonyalias7574
@phonyalias7574 11 ай бұрын
If any real power scaling were to be done here, I guess that what it really comes down to is who had the stronger commander? Kaido or Big Mom? If you start with the premise that King is above Katakuri, then Zoro wins easily. So for this to really be a fight you need to first establish that Katakuri is going to be a generally more powerful fighter than King which is difficult as they both have so few showings. I think we all know Zoro will eventually be the strongest yonko commander out there, but he's not there yet, so it's just a matter of where he is on the scale, which is likely above King and Shiryuu with Ben Beckmann and Katakuri as the unknowns.
@raidenpainn1561
@raidenpainn1561 11 ай бұрын
Nice breakdown or the factors in this 1v1
@tembakaugunung6139
@tembakaugunung6139 10 ай бұрын
That Ali-kuri clip is awesome 😂
@fakhriasyraf1
@fakhriasyraf1 11 ай бұрын
I think using enma is more taxing than using future sight. So its zoro that needs to end things quickly. Not katakuri
@Broomlad
@Broomlad 11 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a Yonko crew match up analysis. Big Mom vs Beast pirates would be neat to analyze. We definitely never got to see it, closest was Perospero. Who would counter who?
@matiasluukkanen7718
@matiasluukkanen7718 11 ай бұрын
I am still salty that we never saw Smoothie in combat. Or even know what Compotte's devil fruit does, even though she was referred as 'a monster' by Vito. Big Mom's crew definately feels strongest overall pirate group we have seen so far in so many regards. Mirror Fruit and Book-Book Fruit alone are quite hax abilities if used intelligently.
@EsportsPoptart
@EsportsPoptart 11 ай бұрын
I love that you have these type of videos for break week. I rewatch most of them through break weeks XD. Such great content. Thank you.
@michaelbucher9001
@michaelbucher9001 11 ай бұрын
1:42 you fucking katakuri face over the johnny bravo opening is perfect
@mierwei3402
@mierwei3402 8 ай бұрын
Me: Wants Katakuri to win Sees the poll Me: A shame. 😢 See's GLR's final verdict: HECK YEAH!!!
@yohohoho8677
@yohohoho8677 11 ай бұрын
I remember kaido telling luffy“ur not the only one who can use future sight"...
@jeremyabrahamson2872
@jeremyabrahamson2872 11 ай бұрын
I'm gonna lean Katakuri for a bit of an odd reason, because part of the story arc of Whole Cake Island involves him overcoming his weakness to his perfectionism (such as his snack break,) so under the terms you provided I'd say his biggest limitation is a fraction of those imposed on Zoro, between two people who are largely otherwise evenly matched. (Since, whether intentionally or no, the entire Zoro endgame in Wano was a giant mind screw with no resolution.)
@thetruecakehead
@thetruecakehead 11 ай бұрын
will be a fitting mtachup if Katakuri has truly leveled up his game
@KREWCITYEMPIER
@KREWCITYEMPIER 11 ай бұрын
Tbh I can see zoro pulling off some crazy shit like learning to “cut through the future” lol like imagine katakuri actives future sight and actually gets cut through it .. sounds like one piece to me lol
@knightshiningarmour
@knightshiningarmour 11 ай бұрын
7:35 Kaido does have future sight, he fought Luffy's Snake man mode by looking into the future and dodging him in his dragon form while drunk. He also said "is this how you do it?'
@husseinmasri901
@husseinmasri901 11 ай бұрын
Kaido does have future sight. didn't he tell luffy that he's not the only one that can see the future??
@justinmeador9444
@justinmeador9444 11 ай бұрын
I'm a zoro fan, so I can't really make a reasonable decision on this matter. That being said it would be a very close match. It would take only a few if not just one hit for zoro to win but with future sight there's just no telling when zoro could land that hit. In the long run its all just hypothetical because I doubt that this fight will ever happen. If big mom is gone/dead then it would come down to who will take command of her pirate crew. The first or second son.
@zenitsua9670
@zenitsua9670 11 ай бұрын
Remember No matter what you are comparing, the bias always wins
@Dartania
@Dartania 11 ай бұрын
This video is basically this scene from “The Princess Bride”: Dread Pirate Roberts:[Roberts takes both goblets and turns away from Vizzini so he can not see to which cup he adds the poison] All right. Where is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right...and who is dead. Vizzini: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me. Dread Pirate Roberts: You've made your decision then? Vizzini: Not remotely. Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows, and Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, and criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. …
@SheetsInc
@SheetsInc 11 ай бұрын
I don't find the poll surprising considering how many Zoro fans follow this channel
@sakthivel-ip3mb
@sakthivel-ip3mb 11 ай бұрын
Idk, Zoro's feats,his great attack potential,his reflexes,he has a faster attacks like death lion song and he blocked king when king used his speed mode,and he is one of the MC so he has more plot armor and his promise to luffy.... I will always bet on Zoro.
@rubendavidperezb.chaveco4062
@rubendavidperezb.chaveco4062 7 ай бұрын
Zoro watches this video: he lets go of Emma. "Now I win, don't I, man on the internet?
@jessemohrbach1
@jessemohrbach1 11 ай бұрын
Kaido says to luffy "I hope you don't think you're the only one who can see the future" In Chapter 1042 I assumed that was him confirming he had future sight.
@brenden1477
@brenden1477 11 ай бұрын
Katakuri is like 48 years old, he’s either ending this in one shot or getting so tired he just gives up 5min into the fight cause the straw hats suffer from “they’ll get tired of beating my arse before I get tired of being beaten”
@Peksisarvinen
@Peksisarvinen 11 ай бұрын
I've seen some dumb One Piece theories over the years, but thinking that Ulti, the second weakest Tobiroppo, could beat Katakuri, could be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Must have been bait.
@bubbasgotback431
@bubbasgotback431 11 ай бұрын
Yah know, I kinda hate how we label them “advanced” conquerors or “advanced armament haki. Makes it seem as if you a fundamental usage of the haki and then level it up in usage. But we all know that doesn’t apply to Zoro. He didn’t even know he had conqueror’s haki until he was spamming the advanced form. It just seems like a form of application to me.
@BaldorfBreakdowns
@BaldorfBreakdowns 11 ай бұрын
Actual Title: What if Zoro fought Katakuri? But then you wouldn't be tricked into clicking on the video instead of clicking it because you are, in fact, actually interested. Kinda makes it seem like he's not very confident in his videos doing well on their own.
@W7RSON
@W7RSON 11 ай бұрын
Katakuri literally beat Luffy (he only gave up because Luffy said he wouldn't give up and he was tired af) The way I see it: WCI Luffy = Katakuri WCI Zoro < Katakuri Current Luffy >> Katakuri Current Zoro = Katakuri
@ibreakrules5987
@ibreakrules5987 11 ай бұрын
Even though its a close fight, it doesnt stop the fact that they both make me buss 😫😫😫.
@BillyBob-bm2rl
@BillyBob-bm2rl 11 ай бұрын
in 1042 kaido comments on using futuresight against luffy, i ran with the implication that he was using it during most of the fight to match luffys
@marccrookedarm5020
@marccrookedarm5020 11 ай бұрын
I do think Katakuri is stronger than King, Queen, Jack and the Tobi Roppo individually. Kaido and Big Mom are roughly equal in strength to each other but Smoothie, Cracker, and Perospero have largely proven themselves useless- either losing to sub commander level fighters or being too incompetent to take part in the battle to begin with, but something has to be keeping the BM and Beast pirates comparable to keep Kaido from just wiping out Big Mom like how he attempted to against Whitebeard and I think Katakuri is the piece that keeps them both even. Also if the BM and Beast pirates have fought even once that nearly confirms that Katakuri is stronger than one of these fighters at the very least since he is confirmed to have never lost prior to Luffy.
@thetruecakehead
@thetruecakehead 11 ай бұрын
that last point is actually extremely valid cause that could mean that Katakuri was already on the level of King (maybe) and therefor if Katakuri was to continue getting stronger after Luffy it may be bending towards Katakuri's side (though for plot reasons probably Zoro will best him in the end, if it isnt going to be a match point tie)
@kuzeycivelek3564
@kuzeycivelek3564 11 ай бұрын
I feel like Katakuri wouldn't learn as fast as Zoro since well, Plot Armor and the fact that Katakuri is way older than Zoro making it harder for him to learn anything.
@thetruecakehead
@thetruecakehead 11 ай бұрын
i agree with the plot armor point but age doesnt really have a learning factor in one piece
@raimeihakke6552
@raimeihakke6552 11 ай бұрын
Zoro is simply out of Kat league now . Kat could barley take a few hits from pre Wano Luffy so KoH or Asura would end him fast. Additionally Zoro can atleast handle Kings speed and blitz Kaido once so he will eventually land a hit on Kat.
@angelobambo4644
@angelobambo4644 11 ай бұрын
That chimney jumped Zoro unarmed in a storm and you know it. Plus he ended up slicing it and the house in half.
@regelepalmierilor4582
@regelepalmierilor4582 11 ай бұрын
0:18 Lmao this got me 😂. They right tho 😳
@MousaThe14
@MousaThe14 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I disagreed with the “who would win” poll because it felt so obviously like just a popularity poll. I feel like it would’ve looked more even if people put the same amount of thought in it you had rather than “Zoro cool” or “Zoro number bigger”
@shbzywz
@shbzywz 11 ай бұрын
It's so funny that Luffy vs Katakuri is one of the longest fights but one of the shortest episode wise (cough Kaido cough)
@GroutMobile
@GroutMobile 11 ай бұрын
Don’t forget zoro also got bodied by mr 3 and Aoikiji. “I’ll never loose again” 🧢
@zacklenin
@zacklenin 11 ай бұрын
Another angle to probe in your reasoning, is the fact one piece is a story. If Zoro is pit against anything leading to a draw, historical narrative trends will say he will be the one to break the draw by developing something new. The Joseph Campbell narrative wheel is not an easy structure to deviate when telling a story this long.
@blawson-hall7988
@blawson-hall7988 11 ай бұрын
nah liam, you got one thing warong. kaido has future sight, he just says it's pointless using it.
@KayderimGameplays
@KayderimGameplays 11 ай бұрын
3:03 you forgot Kuma, and Kizaru when they appeared
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