Gravel Electric Bikes: Intro & Review | Specialized & S-Works Turbo Creo and Bulls Grinder Evo

[@FlyRidesUSA]

Which Gravel eBike would you grab?

[@xclent1975]

Orbea Gain D31

[@MW-jj1rn]

Got a Levo and looking at Creo.. thank you for this excellent info.

[@dongkyoto3992]

Focus

[@calhounj1]

Love my Giant Revolt E+ Pro

[@FlyRidesUSA]

@@calhounj1 I've seen those but haven't ridden! I'll have to see if I can test ride one

[@3811eric]

Canyon Grail: On CF 8 e-tap (SRAM) is one awesome bike. Just test-drove one; it may be a bit heavier than Specialized Creo but the power and the rigidity.... I think it's the best e-gravel bike out there now in 2023.

[@fwood1231]

When I started looking for an ebike I knew it was pavement and gravel both that I would be riding. At 70 years old and being off a bike for last 25 years, I knew emtb wasn't what I was wanting. During this pandemic, local selection is terrible unfortunately but I did find the Specialized line and the Vado models fit my budget and functional needs. I purchased the Vado 4.0 LTD and it's been excellent for me. It's almost like a hardtail mountain bike in it's looks but definitely isn't a mountain bike. With its 700-50 tires, real gravel hasn't been any issue and pavement is easy too. Looking forward to growth in this market of ebikes. Thanks again for this video.

[@FlyRidesUSA]

Thanks for watching! I love the Vado 4.0 LTD

[@JamesTenn]

There are two downsides to the Creo. First, the battery is contained in the down tube and is not designed to be removed. This is a problem if you live in a cold climate and store your bike in an unheated garage. You should not charge the battery at temperatures lower than 32F. Second, the torque provided by this bike is lower than what is available in the Turbo Levo (mountain bike). If you ride an e-bike because of disability, make sure that the power available to you is adequate. For me the Creo came up short for these two reasons. The Giant Revolt E+ Pro gravel bike and it's road companion generate significantly more torque for the rider. It's equivalent to the Specialized Turbo Levo (about 80 Nm). The battery can be removed and an extender battery is available. The Giant extender is ugly compared to the Specialized extender. That said, the Creo is very nice to ride. I haven't yet had a demo of the Giant Revolt E+ Pro, but I did ride their e-bike from the previous year (which had a larger battery). It too was very nice; I have a slight preference for it. FYI, I've been riding the Specialized Turbo Levo MB since late 2018. It's super-fun. Lots of power if you need it, and a full-on mountain bike. I totally love it, but I really want to back on the road too.

[@marcpikas2859]

More information here than the video itself thanks

[@larry4762]

Agree 100 per cent I own a 2019 Specialized Turbo Vado 3.0 the battery is sitting in my closet the bike is in my unheated garage. Will wait until April to put the battery back on the bike. It gets cold in NH.

[@quacker998]

Totally agree with you

[@sickunit2096]

I got my Bulls Desert Falcon from Fly rides and made it more gravel friendly. Carbon tubeless wheels, 42c gravel tires, wide Shimano Pro gravel handlebars, and went to 165mm crank arms. My OCD kept me up at night and I had to purchase a matching Di2 GRX left brake lever. I hate that Bulls mismatched two different types of GRX levers. Otherwise, the Desert Falcon is an incredible bike and does well offroad!

[@JEUXolim]

This is a greatly constructed video with all the right information and well explained and well categorised sections. Awesome stuff

[@jimbo4203]

Got a turbo vado sl 4.0 last week, comes with 38c pathfinders on it. Same frame motor etc... as the aluminum creo, just with flatbars. 28mph assist the bike is a blast

[@jimbo4203]

@@pe3117 not sure about the creo being a real gravel bike, but the vado sl has a 1.5 degree slacker head angle and a taller stack height, and a higher bottom bracket then my friends aluminum creo. I like the flatbars better offroad too

[@deannalofquist4106]

They all look really impressive...but can't get over how sleek the Specialized is! Also nice to see the use of the 105 Shimano Grupo.

[@johnnyboy1586]

Specialized make lovely bikes just a bit pricey

[@59trevski]

My Creo expert with Pathfinder 42 mm tyres is amazing on and off rd battery will easily do 70-80 miles on one charge. Just make sure you ride in 80-95 cadence. It’s an endurance bike on off rd. Some amazing deals going on at the moment. 🤘

[@mkports]

I have the cannondale synapse neo se, and I am having a blast with it. I ride it in a large city with a lot of park areas. While the motor does not much on the road avove 25km/h+ the e-bike's fun starts off road. I am not a high performance road cyclist, so there is that, but I feel like the frame is agile and does compansate bumps offroad. Parts are mostly propietary (this is a problem which is not just tied to the brand because laws concerned parts are more in line with cars than with the everyday bike because beeing an e-bike) which will probably be the same for most e-bikes which is a turn-off if you are used to customizing your bike. For eu/ger the tire size is special too, so that is something to keep in mind. But in the end I am happy to have this bike which brings a lot of joy in my daily commute and spare time. What I mean by these legal constraints? I would like to oufit my bike with a flatbar. But law has it that the particular bike part from a different company needs to be released by the manufacturer itsself, so it is actually more difficult to alter the e-bike than altering a car where the part manufacturer is responsible for getting the permit opposed to the bike manufacturer to release the permit for that part (in the eu/ger).

[@karlymaniatis4575]

Gotta love the gravel eBike!

[@MobileDwellings]

Sweet video. Does anybody know of a gravel e bike that is a single speed? That's what I'm looking for.

[@richardharker2775]

Great review and roundup of electric bikes. My next bike will be motorised and there is a massive surge in ebike development that blows my mind. However in saying all that reliability has been a bug for many brands and serviceability is mostly non existent for many motors with a short service life. Other factors to consider is crank versus hub drives. Crank drives are sleek and practical in a few different ways but rapidly wears your drive train prematurely. Very costly over time. Then there is the issue of water ingress that has been a bug for earlier Bosch and Brose motors. Exciting as they are I will have some reservations until proven otherwise. My dealer will be bombarded with questions before I purchase though.

[@ikefazzio4721]

I'm pumped to get some clip-ins and get on one of these steeds. Sea Otter Gravel eBike race in 2021 maybe...?!

[@FlyRidesUSA]

We'll see you there if you make it up!

[@ozovit]

Hi is Cube bike available in the States. I know it is an European Brand. Thanks

[@peterhanna8578]

Thanks for the video, I just bought a cannondale Neo synapse 1 and adding wider tires for fire roads but I came across the specialized creo now and I'm thinking about changing to the specialized. Any feedback on which to go with? I want a strong motor because I live on top of a ridiculously steep hill and it's a tough climb for me. The cannondale is heavier with the larger Bosch motor. But the specialized seems to be quite strong as well.

[@SpeedTripStu]

After my back surgery I have been looking at not getting back onto my emtb but one of these. Not sure they are any better than my Levo with gravel tyres? On road I can just lock out the suspension, off road it would kill a gravel bike.

[@willgo7898]

Vado is a great option ... great geometry / non-cruiser positioning, forgiving 48 mm tires, front suspension. Handles road, gravel, urban very well. Highly recommended. I'm an aggressive older rider and don't think the Creo is the way to go for effective and relatively comfortable gravel riding

[@JamesTenn]

I too ride a Levo and have had to ride some pavement recently. It's comfortable enough, but it doesn't feel remotely like a road bike. The handling is very different. The gearing is a little low so it's harder to keep up with people on road/gravel bikes. Also, in the USA, the Levo is power limited to 20MPH, whereas many road/gravel bikes are considered Class 3 and will provide assistance up to 28mph.

[@jimbo4203]

@@JamesTenn ya my turbo vado sl 4.0 hits 28mph easily

[@bartfart3847]

Title : Which Gravel eBike Should I Buy? / 6:49

[@adamgoodman3422]

Great 101 review. Where are those rides in San Diego?

[@briannaahlmark4117]

I want more life advice! And the specialized creo

[@FlyRidesUSA]

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[@Wiko99s]

Why nobody talks about the bh core gravelx? Powerful motor, medium battery, light weight. Perfect combination

[@jboutelle]

what about the yamaha wabash?

[@FlyRidesUSA]

Haven't had the chance to ride it yet. Hopefully I will soon!

[@garypostell5268]

RANGE RANGE AND MORE RANGE!!!!!

[@thenobleone-3384]

I like Hyper E Bikes the design. They are pricey though. I live in a Bike city now

[@Karla-Flr]

I would buy the spezialized!

[@michelklee5388]

Why choose a gravel bike over a touring bike?

[@FlyRidesUSA]

For me, a touring bike would be more for recreation, bikepacking, and commuting. A gravel bike is more appropriate for race training and slightly more difficult off road terrain. But I think there's a fair amount of cross pollination between the two.

[@jimbo4203]

Im 58 and hit trails all the time on my gravel bike, that i would never hit on my trek emonda

[@garypostell5268]

I want to go 100 miles on one battery yup 👍 but unfortunately that a long way off!

[@garypostell5268]

Man they got to improve the range of batteries 🔋

[@URSoulSurgeon]

Giant Revolt E+ Pro

[@josearias8750]

How is it? Looks nice but why aluminum? Is it too heavy?

[@MrAryindia]

I’m enjoying the bike so far kzbin.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.

[@mr.potatohead6138]

So when you say "won't break the bank" I interpret that as 1000.00$. Stating prices on these bikes would've been nice.

[@paddyoneill3243]

My not overly fancy standard none electric gravel bike was £2500 my ebike which is a enduro was closer to 6000 they aren't anywhere near cheap yet

[@jondonnelly3]

@@paddyoneill3243 do u like it, im thinking of a ribble that costs that.

[@allanallen1835]

Scott ebike 13 kilo

[@patrickcharlson6994]

Specialized is a great bike, but you pay way more than other brands.

[@Idnalro]

Full carbon chass-iss...

[@paul--b]

When on a long gravel slog, make sure you’re wearing your full padded chamo-iss

[@williamvan909]

better start making them in the..... usa not over SEA's

[@FlyRidesUSA]

We wish you luck in your journey to buy things made only in the US

[@icorezx14r]

Buy the one that runs on gasoline.....

[@natty5861]

just buy a electric mountain bike

[@FlyRidesUSA]

Well, they offer vastly different things. But definitely if you're on dirt most of the time an eMTB is the way to go.

[@jimbo4203]

On the flats i can easily do 28mph on the e gravelbike . But only 18 mph on the e mtb. Just depends where you ride.😎

[@metavug]

racing with a gravel ebike? yea, that's not a thing.

[@FlyRidesUSA]

Interesting take considering gravel eBike races I see popping up around the world!

[@marcpikas2859]

@@FlyRidesUSA But then would the winner be the fittest or the most technologically supported?

[@FlyRidesUSA]

@@marcpikas2859 Usually these races limit assisted speed and how powerful your motor is so that everyone within a given race is on the same playing field.

[@marcpikas2859]

@@FlyRidesUSA So what gives a rider the edge over someone else? If for fitness and skill I don't see the point of assisted bikes. Longer race course maybe but the finish line results won't change?