That thing seems like the perfect mod guitar! 260 then add pickups, tuners and new bridge and you got a beast axe for less than 800 bucks! Great review!
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
Appreciate that dude! Yeah man, I might just do that.
@steffomca76210 ай бұрын
@@thedavidshredstrust me it's worth it
@ForbiddenEngravings10 ай бұрын
I should get one and do a full on custom designed top/back with some inlay work. Been looking at an 8 string to go to town on
@InGrindWeCrust20109 ай бұрын
Do you think you would need to replace the bridge and the tuners or just the pickups?@@thedavidshreds
@duwaynesteurer42879 ай бұрын
So, like a mid-tier LTD, Schecter, Ibanez, Cort, or anything else, without having to do all the work of replacing 75% of the components, and the bonus of probably having decent fretwork?
@maxi413211 ай бұрын
6:43 u just got to release this as a song 😂😂 I love it
@mario5000010 ай бұрын
love when the reviewer got sick riffs and clean playing, very nice!
@drummer4hire1211 ай бұрын
I am not going to mention the guitar I am referencing, but before I bought mine, I noticed a trend between down-to-earth guitar players reviewing the said guitar, and the elite-level guitar reviewers on YT........The elites scoffed at the guitar while the D.T.E reviews were blown away. See, these days, a company cannot suffer a competitors product that costs THOUSANDS less and surpasses build quality......and the elites cannot support the cheap gear because they will not make their money. Reviews are getting out of hand and cannot be fully trusted anymore. Great talent and video!!!!
@vinceceb11 ай бұрын
Even then, some of those more expensive guitars have come in with a bunch of different issues for me personally. I've had less issues with the lesser expensive guitars. my prestige 7th string has the most horrible fret buzz with the correct string gauge/tuning ratio and ive had 2 different guys set it up and i've had to settle for high action so i barely play it anymore. i've also had terrible luck with higher end schecter models as well. i just recently got a chapman for around 500 usd and man i love it. Unless its an ibanez iceman i dont think i'll ever spend too much on a guitar again. People like Glenn from SpectreSoundStudios and david are our saviors.
@drummer4hire1211 ай бұрын
@@vinceceb Very well stated! If I would have listened to the elite reviewers, I would not have had the unexplainable positive experience that occurred with my new guitar. It is sitting right next to a 1,500 Stratocaster and it is embarrassing. I paid 1,300 less and got 3,000 more in terms of feel, build and materials. I keep looking the new guitar over for just one minor flaw and cannot find it......UNBELIEVABLE!!! By the way, the Strat has a twisted neck, rendering the upper register unplayable. I did not find this out until months later as back then I did not play lead, just cowboy chords. It was not until a friend played it for a total of 30 seconds before he figured out it was total trash. Have a great day, kind friend and keep on rocking!!!!
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
Ah thank you, I appreciate it! I'm inclined to agree with you as well.
@JD-vj4go11 ай бұрын
I stopped trusting KZbin reviews from the Spark amp. It sounds nothing like the demos and the practice features barely work. It's an okay practice amp but it was way way over hyped and a lot of the reviewers just lied.
@aud648011 ай бұрын
I have one of these. I swapped out the pickups for Fishman Abasi's and it sounds fantastic. It's now my go-to. After a proper set it it plays better then my Sheckter and my Ibanez Jem. They're well worth it, even when you price in new pickups
@chriskofer.70059 ай бұрын
Did You Use the Abasi 8 or 9 pickups? Got one myself and I'm trying to measure for the swap
@9234492 ай бұрын
@@chriskofer.7005I put 8 string Duncans blackouts... Needed to route a couple of millimeters
@MonsterJuiced2 ай бұрын
Did you get 8 or 9 string abasis
@jonathanberry1420Ай бұрын
@@chriskofer.7005did you end up finding out? im in the same position
@markmurp10 ай бұрын
I bought one too see if I'd like an 8 string as much as I thought I would. The problems I found were the same problems you found. The good things about it were the same good things you found. Sold it since and bought a strandberg nx8 and an ibanez ftm33.... this guitar made me know how much I like 8 string guitars.
@ordinaryman500611 ай бұрын
Can’t notice the audio quality difference between the two guitars. I looked away and didn't realize he switched lol.
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
wild
@SuperJohnmusic8 ай бұрын
with that kind of distortion is hard to tell the difference. A clean sound would be better for a comparison, so we can actually listen to the guitar body tone, sustain, etc. As with any guitar, all effects and EQ can be customized to best suit the instrument as Wood, string gauge, mics will resonate and produce a different sound. It would be better if you play it direct with no effects whatsoever? So we can hear the difference from the comparison presented.
@JB94.11 ай бұрын
I bought one of these and had to send it back due to how bad the frets were. So scratchy and unpolished. Returned it and bought the pink g4m 8 string with a maple neck and it is absolutely perfect for a first 8 string
@duanuzun11 ай бұрын
holy sh** fire playing man came for the guitar stayed for playing!
@alienprobe97411 ай бұрын
I own the Subzero Rogue VI 30" Baritone and after replacing the hardware/pickups its amazing!
@metalonabudget57411 ай бұрын
Killer video and sick demonstration of the guitar
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@sRichterMusic11 ай бұрын
i have this guitar, bought it when it was still under the name "subzero". Love it, didn't change anything about it. I recorded some songs with it and the only issue i had with it was the jack port being a bit lose, screw it in and it was fixed. I think i got lucky with mine since the fretwork is flawless for me. I just wished it had a a coil split, otherwise i didn't think much of the pickups, when i recorded with it they minimally affected my tone and in a mix the difference was non-existent. And yeah the tuners are great. Thanks for the vid was interesting to hear your thoughts on it :D
@obicross5 ай бұрын
Is it a heavy guitar?
@MonsterJuiced2 ай бұрын
@@obicrossno it's quite mid to light
@obicross2 ай бұрын
@@MonsterJuiced thanks
@mobbinator9 ай бұрын
Your playing is fantastic! If thats a song of yours, I sure hope that gets released one day Your video was also great man. Nice work. Subscribed!!!
@EBAN20710 ай бұрын
I noticed a slight tightness in the schecter compared to the other guitar but in a full mix i think the difference would be negligible
@gogreyhoundmusic11 ай бұрын
G4m is subzero, btw
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
I think they're trying to rebrand or something. I mentioned a bit that late in my video iirc
@franciscoguy847211 ай бұрын
I had forgot about the guitar review once you kicked in demo riffage. That was some sick SCHUNK! Like back when new Shuggah dropped, everybody go away I'm listening and locked in!
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@canilhan988 ай бұрын
i have one of these. i had to do a fret job on it but its an absolute steal aside from the pups.
@The_Diginaut10 ай бұрын
A lot of these budget guitars can be great if you swap out pickups. I had a Jackson 7 string, like the cheap $200 one, slapped some Fishman's in there and the thing sounds just as good as my Stranberg. I had to do some changes with the setup to get the action feeling buttery, but it's actually a really solid guitar. I get that impression from this one here. With modern machining, you can build a very solid quality platform cheaply, but there's no way around building or purchasing quality pickups. So when you buy budget guitars like this, just know that the main thing to focus on is how it feels. If you're a beginner, by the time you actually want to start recording stuff you should easily have a couple hundred bucks to spend on a set of quality pickups. You can even fit actives in there too, I just stuffed my 9V inside with the pots. It's not too hard to solder either, some of the diagrams can be weird though so maybe stick with pickups that have an installation tutorial on KZbin
@gansbikkunn11 ай бұрын
6:43 pickups sure aren’t great, but the main problem is either tuning or intonation, or maybe both at the same time. It sounds extremely out of tune in comparison to the schecter. I hope the reason is not incorrectly installed frets and you just need to tinker with bridge saddles, otherwise it’s lethal.
@obicross11 ай бұрын
Yoo what is that riff? Thats so sick! Thank you for the review!
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's an original riff from me, I'm glad you like it
@obicross11 ай бұрын
@@thedavidshreds i love it! I kinda wanna learn that sophisticated picking and fast tempo, once i have my 8 string ofc 😁
@diegomacias47874 ай бұрын
For $260 imma just see it as a project guitar as long as the truss rid works its a steal either way
@floganda11 ай бұрын
Got the exact same one and for me, as a newbie with extended range, its the perfect introduction. Had to send the first one back, beacuse the nut was messed up horribly and it had a little blemish on the body. But now, with the new one I'm super happy. Neck Pick up is shit, but as a Project Guitar, you shouldn't sleep on this. Expect differences in the finish, the first one I got felt a little smoother, but that is - if we are honest - justifiable for a 280 Euro guitar. Customer Support was super quick tho and didn't give me any trouble.
@shredevil_139 ай бұрын
Cool axe!👍 Glenn Fricker might want to look at this and see for himself whether pickups really make a difference as far as metal tones are concerned. In some cases they are subtle; but in others (like this one), they appear significant…🤔
@hebguy4202 ай бұрын
I'm excited to try one out!! Worst case scenario I have a nice mod platform guitar.
@metaldemonseanknels11 ай бұрын
The tone isn’t a WHOLE lot different between the two (judging from my phone speakers) but maybe… it’s just the tone? Or I’m not a big fan of it lol it is quite a bit tighter on the schecter but I’m sure it sounds a lot better in a full mix
@DeadGodMetal2 ай бұрын
I checked out a few of them in G4M showroom here in Stockholm, Sweden. All of them had neck issues, either twisted neck or that the neck was not fitting perfectly in the bold which can cause issues in future I assume.
@martingaspar8364Ай бұрын
ok but that Schecter is insane and your playing too
@ravensharpless10 ай бұрын
It just shot up in price apparently
@samuraiyue11 ай бұрын
I've seeing this guitar on Aliexpress but damn the price was really high around 500€
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
Yeah...don't buy that lol
@ZaloBim4 ай бұрын
I have one as well, exept the brand is ZubZero, but the exact same guitar. Put in some Fishman Fluence Tosin Abasi signature pickups. It is a real hellshredder now 🤘
@AleksandrRudiak2 ай бұрын
I have other chinese 8 string with this kind of tuners. I've never had an expensive guitar with expensive hardware but i kinda like these tuners. Yeah they're a little bit a pain in the ass to tune but i can put my 8 string to stay for like a month or so start to play it and it will be in tune. I can play it for hours and it will stay in tune. I think it has something to do with these silicone rings. Probably the best tuning stability out of my 3 chinese guitars (the other two are yamaha eg112c and V-Glorify headless 7).
@MichaelSheaAudio4 ай бұрын
Honestly, on good headphones, there's not that much of a difference between how the guitars sound. I don't know how old the strings are on this compared to the Schecter, or how well it's set up in comparison, or how the output differs, but I would imagine it's one of those that's making the difference, right? Like I had an Epiphone Les Paul Special II, and the pickups were so hot that it was just overloading whatever tone I'd set up for my other guitars so it sounded a bit muddy and squishy in comparison. When level matched, I could record a guitar track with different guitars spliced together and no one would know it's not one guitar. In fact, I have done that. XD I dunno, the way you were hyping it up, I thought there would be a bigger difference, but it sounds like the pickups on the Schecter might be a bit lower output so it sounds tighter. 😅
@kalashio4 ай бұрын
I have one of these (you can literally see it my pfp) I really do love it. I may get new pickups for it but to be honest they work fine for me lol
@AdamFaulkner3757 ай бұрын
I might need to get me one of these. Can we get the measurements of the pickup routes? I'd like to know if a Lace Alum X-bar 4.0 would fit in there.
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power10 ай бұрын
The pickup comparison sounded kinda similar 😂🤷♂️🤷🏽♂️ If this thing isn't on amazon, I'm just going to finally pickup the g style ( or glarry? 🤔 ) straight fret 8 string....or the one that's a kit, so I can put the neck, bridge, and pickups on my old ibanez rg7, making it an 8.
@MrGrayhenryАй бұрын
Great review
@Gary-zq3pz4 ай бұрын
Nice ...but a Schecter Diamond series 8 string caught my eye at Sweetwater, and my checking account took a 800$ hit. But it is a VERY nice guitar.
@jasondudeman5 күн бұрын
Def worth the $250 $325 not sure. Personally Likely go with th a cheap around $200 harley venton bass VI for my next guitar. Just got my first 7 string. Really want a 9 string to play ocyave bellow my 7 string in B0 standard. Bit cant afgord that fir some time. Also eventually want a sub bass and doing E2 guitar E1 bass VI E0 sub bass Vs B1 7 sttring B0 9 string B-1 5 string sub bass Or even FINDING or more so AFFORDING a sub bass at all let alone a 5 strung sub bass that gies one note bellow a grand piano If went 8 STRING route Could fo F#2 6 String guitar tuned up 2 notes F#1 8 string standard F#0 4 or 5 string dark lord vampyre style bass
@YOUTUBEOBWAYJACOBGASTON080015 күн бұрын
❤❤❤
@steffomca76210 ай бұрын
Are there any improvements in the quality control compared to the previous rebrand?
@el.guitarmaniac29510 ай бұрын
Are you going to put there at least 8 string emg 81 to hear it from the good side? If you prefer fatter sound, then emg 85
@tegmentum.official5 ай бұрын
Hey I’m curious, where is the parallel fret?
@melchizedeck.8 ай бұрын
I’m shopping for an 8 string and that has a good low end and comfortable neck for soloing… But one that doesn’t look like it’s from space. Do you recommend anything?
@RainMakeR_Workshop11 ай бұрын
Bad reviews on this guitar just tells me the reviewer doesn't know how to setup a guitar. Things like this are best used as a mod platform.
@AVM-Music8 ай бұрын
I have one of these coming on trade next week, but interesting to compare between the RG8 and this. The RG8 pickups are pretty turd (being six string bass pickups)
@tusharjamwal9 ай бұрын
Hey hold on, those look like 8 string pickups not 9. The Tosin Abasi 8 fishmans would fit in there I am pretty sure
@issy_dev11 ай бұрын
not trimming the strings is crazy
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
you sound like my wife lmao
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power10 ай бұрын
Tom Morello 😂
@FrankGio-nd5rr10 ай бұрын
I like your playing.
@Mr.Goldbar11 ай бұрын
The pickups honestly sounded ok
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
They're just super lifeless and dull compared to any other of my guitars.
@demon_step664610 ай бұрын
What were you playing in the demo?
@charlesworthless2 ай бұрын
That’s the exact one I’m getting.
@blacktigerorganization11 ай бұрын
Thanks to this video lol it's $350 now but what's funny is the black version is $210 jokes on them I like black more and its satin
@aswinpanembrama80439 ай бұрын
david maxim micic's brother?
@jerekyro154911 ай бұрын
Yo yo, got a question. Got the guitar earlier this week, got a problem with the pickups buzzing like HELL. Not like a "cheap pickup"-type of buzz, but something is clearly off. Did you have the same problem, and if so, what did you do to it?
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
Nah, mine were just kinda muddy. Sounds like you may have a grounding issue!
@jerekyro154911 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply. I've gone through troubleshooting the possible ground issue, but it still persists. Might just be that cheap pickups are picking up the annoying ground noise in my apartment. Gonna change the pickups anyway and hopefully that fixes it. @@thedavidshreds
@yungsketch317510 ай бұрын
@@jerekyro1549 I have this guitar too, and I also have a buzzing issue. My home office has two vivariums in it and during lights on, the pickups buzz like hell unless I can find a 'sweet spot' in the room. During lights out and sitting away from my pc monitors it sounds 1000% better.
@RealBloodyTheElf9 ай бұрын
now costs $328.00
@extendedrangetechmetal14898 ай бұрын
in my headphones the pickups do not sound so bad to me..
@DomLapointe11 ай бұрын
You’re still my favourite ❤ I’m in the market for an 8 The options out there don’t make it easy
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
Thank you dude! Yeah man it's tough out there. My Schecter is pretty damn solid fwiw
@italianfromhell11 ай бұрын
I would like to hear this in clean and with some treble oriented stuff, but really cool review tho!! the world really needs more cheap shitty guitars for the road and less fancy big brand garbage for the bedroom or the museum
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
Yeah that's fair, I think that most cleans sound pretty much the same lol but that's because I play with distortion 95% of the time so I'm very biased
@brianbergmusic528811 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. NGL, I dislike most 8 string guitars usually due to them being poorly designed. Even 7 string guitars have several downsides. Fan-fretted instruments with more than 7 strings are *a must* in my book. That being said, I do a lot of experiments with clean tones -- having bad PUPs is a BIG turnoff. I would be forced to find or order customized PUPs to make this work. Then I would wish that it had some sort of floaty trem system. I guess I'm stuck being contented with 6 strings once again.
@andyzamboknee11 ай бұрын
$325 now
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power10 ай бұрын
🤦♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏼♂️
@leedurand34499 ай бұрын
MODULATION...
@leedurand34499 ай бұрын
OKAY...
@robertdonosobuchner312911 ай бұрын
The guitar looks great. The pickups are really sh....bad. I already thought about to grade up a cheeper guitar, that has a good substance...to create my own guitar. Locking tuners, good Humbuckers, maybe the pods, new string set... But than it will cost more than the guitar... I have to think about it. 🙃🤘
@masoneismonstudios30165 ай бұрын
okay im a minute in to the video and I'm liking it so far but PLEASE BRO TRIM THE STRINGS OMFG YOURE GONNA POKE UR EYE OUT
@didtoknan812811 ай бұрын
Don't want to be rude, but I don't like the sound of both. But yes the Schecter is less muddy.
@ErebosGR6 ай бұрын
The boring black headstock ruins the classy look. I wish it was just left unpainted.
@breevwhyman298511 ай бұрын
- .....your videos are excellent......driving straight to the facts and required info ..... well, as you state, it seems quite a lovely deal for an instrument with those features..... As you say, it also oozes character and style .....thx for sharing quality info about good deals..... Harley B are wierd.....many models just dissapeared off the uk web site.......the Dullahan headless........and several others regards
@thedavidshreds11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Matthillguitar11 ай бұрын
ill buy that one haha
@Kromhoff0911 ай бұрын
Doesnt sound much worse than the schecter
@leedurand34499 ай бұрын
3.4-10...
@TokyoNoGackers10 ай бұрын
idk the harley benton one doesnt have a dumbass supreme logo looking head stock. Cheap knock off burl doesn't make me over look how dumb the headstock both looks and is designed. Id rather have the headstock that will allow me to use most 8 string string packs. Ran in to that issue with gear4music's baritone. The distance from the nut to the low E peg really limits you. Plus all the other stuff you mentioned that is wrong with it. Idk man the argument that this guitar is somehow cooler when out of the box its objectively worse than the harley benton ones because of looks is wild to me but you do you.
@thedavidshreds10 ай бұрын
I didn't say it was better than the Harley Benton, I said that the Harley Benton was probably better. I just said that it looked cooler. And It does!
@leedurand34499 ай бұрын
$150...
@2ndPortal2 ай бұрын
Why is everything a race to the bottom. Y'all want to suffer. I always suffer to buy the most expensive and i have been blessed
@marozpkb613610 ай бұрын
Steam opened in the Background :D only a real Musician is also a Gamer :D
@cesaremunaroguitar65693 ай бұрын
I send it back..horrible guitar..is beauty..but bad construction..i waited and replace latter for a ninja Legator
@dragonballz14320093 ай бұрын
Pickups mean absolutely NOTHING, I'm sorry but even shit pickups sound the same as expensive ones
@skulledcrossbone3 ай бұрын
I can't see anything on your youtube channel, so who do you think you are?
@MannyMo_11 ай бұрын
You just made me want to buy an 8 string now… Also I just uploaded a new single “Nexus” and I’d really appreciate it if you would check it out and give me some feedback!🙏🏻
@snowandcoal2 ай бұрын
Headstock shape is gay
@clubstylesporty157611 ай бұрын
I have the subzero version and its awful looks insane but plays and sounds like ass
@vince80819 ай бұрын
"The only problem is horrible pickups and replacement ones are expensive" so this guitar is a NO.
@holymungdiver11 ай бұрын
Call me deaf but I really didn't notice a huge difference between the two.
@Durkhead11 ай бұрын
I think their was more noise on the gm4 but the second guitar had some feedback
@alrecks61911 ай бұрын
the stock GM4 pickup is rather noisy but that's about it, really.