Great Lakes Big Rig Challenge 2021 LOADED SEMI DRAG RACING

loaded semi drag racing pulling over 140k lbs of lumber up hill at the 2021 Great Lakes Big Rig Challenge at Onaway Speed way in Onaway, Michigan
#greatlakesbigrigchallenge2021 #greatlakesbigrigchallenge #bigrigchallenge #semidrags #semiracing #semiraces #dieseldrags #speedsociety #semipulls #peterbilt #1320video

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

Drop a comment what your favorite truck here was!!!!!

[@mrtjbiga1784]

the green and black pete ,from the thumb nail

[@frankst.george3106]

Def the white DIESEL FREAK

[@rxtuninginc8444]

White TCV

[@rxtuninginc8444]

Any in truck vids of this?

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

@@rxtuninginc8444 no sir i wish.

[@electric7487]

If you go to Hell when you die, you become a differential gear for one of these trucks.

[@BossNation8621]

😂😂

[@garydos000]

Sign me right up

[@cameron_89]

😂😂 You win

[@dominicseaton3532]

Lol😂

[@sirfairplay9153]

makes my balls hurt just thinking about it!

[@oliverrobins985]

This is where all the lumber is hiding!

[@milla698]

Hahaha

[@thisguycalledalex]

I come here to comment this! Haahahah yeep, on the back of these trucks doing 15 seconds quarters or something 😂

[@danielsmith9500]

😂

[@rockydennis4497]

And what you can find cost 77 dollars for a sheet of plywood at the depot!!!🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@jessiehughes9432]

This is why my lumber was late! 😆

[@randymiller3949]

Absolutely love this as a fellow driver!!! Bless the engines, clutches, drive shafts, transmissions, turbos, rear ends, 5 wheels, AND ALL THE FRAMES!!! But My God...what a display of raw horse power, torque, & shifting skills!!! Much love from Mobile Alabama.

[@shawnr9778]

What a display of black smoke into our atmosphere. Well done lads, well done 👏

[@stephentarabetz7192]

Bless you as well mr. Miller

[@panamatrucker]

@@shawnr9778 Cry a river. Nobody gives a shit

[@MNTNMAN-SUCA]

@@shawnr9778 Yep, LET'EM ROLL COAL WHILE THEY HOLD'EM TO THE FLOOR. HOOTERS UP, HAMMER DOWN BECAUSE WE LAY'ER FLAT AND DON'T LOOK BACK

[@mickcarson8504]

You mean, My God, what pollution? 🤔

[@cedric9370]

You guys have it. A beautiful day, surrounded by family, eats and THE DAMN RIGS!!! Im so jealous

[@StubProductions]

For Sale: LOW mile day cab. Used on local lumber route. MINT! 😄

[@electric7487]

3000kW, 16.9L, compound turbo, Caterpillar C15 Acert. Fully deleted. Freshly rebuilt with IPD Big Bore Kit. Fully built drivetrain with Eaton 18-speed manual transmission. Front left tyre in good condition, all other tyres need replacing.

[@sixtyfiveford]

$150,000 trucks hauling $500,000 in 2x4s.

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

Oh yeah easily lol

[@evil_me]

Have you seen lumber products lately... That is like 3 million dollars in wood 🤣

[@sixtyfiveford]

@@evil_me I know! Half the trucks when they hit the end of the drag strip just kept going because they knew they could buy a couple new trucks for what they had in the back.

[@240sxRule]

Somewhere around 850k. We just had a trailer loaded exactly like these stolen up in northern Canada.

[@RiCH_926]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯

[@boilerman2540]

The amount of torque displayed is incredible!! Man vs.machine! Awesome 👏

[@Pyramid1974]

This is pure therapy man..

[@Vengancejr]

07:10 "we just found 18 neutrals" I'm dead 🤣

[@donaldducks3916]

Everyone oogling the trucks and I am over here impressed with the strap job on those loads. Well done.

[@WarmBusch]

Hell yeah. I drove flatbed OTR for four years and always took pride in how I strapped,chained and tarped my loads.

[@youknoweverything7643]

@@WarmBusch that's awsome man I have loaded lots of flat beds up with fabricated steel beams and custom made handrails built in a fab shop I'm over for the metal beam structures and at forms for plants and factories and have only met one driver who loaded the whole truck by himself with one helper and did it very slowly but damn it looked perfect stacking all those awkward beams that has plate welded in center and ends so it cam be bolted and it's like tetrus when he got done I was impressed I guess it's like a art form for yall like when I was a welder and fabricator on my tools I made sure every weld and everything I did looked like a machine did it perfectly and every thing I welded on something every measurement was exact to the blue prints not even a thousandth off dead perfect got to a point where the QaQC guy just passed my work with out checking it cuse he knew if I did it it was beyond perfect

[@orlandoreese19]

Yeah me too.

[@MNTNMAN-SUCA]

@@youknoweverything7643 That's called "Taking PRIDE and putting HEART", into what you're doing. "Good enough ain't good enough"! Good enough gets people killed. Peace and love brother.✌🤜🤛🤝

[@arthurevans5608]

ohh yeah i seen glass mirror installer truck forget to strap down!! what a mess and yeah.. FiiRED!! try unloading the delivery truck of glass. strapping it to forklift to safely tuck it in its slot

[@lightinlove3368]

Never seen this before. That torque is insane! 🤯😳

[@mattdg1981]

I absolutely love those old cab overs!!!!!!

[@herpderp1662]

Most exciting race from 0 to 25 mph ive ever seen....

[@alex.k3166]

they definitely going faster than that

[@Kulafu438]

I think if there is no load, it will be more faster.

[@Kromsmitesyou]

@@Kulafu438 lol no $hit buddy.

[@litterbug1483]

Some are shifting as smooth as butter others starting in a higher gear weight displaced different

[@jesusgodjr9873]

I want to know much weight they pulling

[@squishytacticalnuke6991]

The amount of torque produced is insane🤯

[@ronskancke8166]

The torque is impressive but I'm having a little trouble with the exhaust situation.

[@mrdoofa9357]

@@ronskancke8166 Nothing wrong with a bit of rolling coal!!!

[@factsoverfeelings1776]

@@ronskancke8166 You going to start crying about #ClimateCrisis bullshit next?

[@patriotaitaliano6714]

@@factsoverfeelings1776 how is that a bullshit

[@Lacheyenona72]

@@ronskancke8166 BLACK SMOKE MATTERS

[@wmden1]

Very interesting to watch. The torquing the left front wheel, well off the ground, was something else. Imagine the stress on all the drive train components, accelerating all that weight to the degree that most of these tractors did. Simply amazing.

[@josephmac2684]

Yeah, I was thinking about some of these Kenworths that pull with no problem at all and no tire up in the air. Crazy power

[@rubymorganlutz5725]

I love when the front wheel goes up in the air!!!!! 😁 My favorite part!!

[@dansprenger4647]

A moment of silence for the clutches and drivelines..... Awesome video

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

Thank you!

[@bradygies9994]

No shit!!!!! Ohhh baby!!!!

[@ovist7506]

They probably floating, no clutch

[@AlphaSaber]

The local truck service shop probably has a tent just over the hill stocking replacements.

[@kevinwilliams5735]

Motor mounts ball joints drive shafts...

[@scottbigger1945]

Greta thunberg would absolutely love this !!

[@luisgonzalez3057]

How dare you!! 🤣

[@mikemcclune1440]

@@luisgonzalez3057 LMAO 😂

[@Sage-qd6tf]

I still don’t understand why people bash her, she’s literally trying to save the world lol

[@Sage-qd6tf]

@phantasm the tall man why?

[@realaussiemale567]

@@Sage-qd6tf Because she’s been indoctrinated, like most teens her age & younger. Man made climate change is the biggest scam in world history! Don’t reply with some crap 💩 about all the scientists who have done experiments, because they haven’t! They have been paid off, just like politicians, left wing shills in the MSM, others like Sir David Attenborough. Do you know how much CA$H Greta & her family have been paid to be spokespeople by the U.N & W.H.O over the last 4-5yrs? Estimated to be around $145,000,000. Not bad for ppl who don’t have regular jobs, or attend school. Look up an Australian scientist by the name of Dr Ian Plimer, one of the foremost real experts on climatology.

[@andyjohnson3790]

The crowd downwind getting all that exhaust in their face must be having a blast

[@bestestgaming8454]

more like a headache

[@rajthedev]

These dudes are just having fun. I love it!

[@jeremyroberts6690]

The cabover ford was a good looking old rig.

[@lornperkins4270]

Sure was

[@1STGeneral]

Every driver had to wear a shock collar and an ankle monitor to keep them from driving away with the load of gold

[@DCW121]

Lol

[@KentuckyBlue502]

😂

[@ronaldtrump7748]

Se colocar essa modalidade com os caminhões do Brazil, não sobra um diferencial inteiro, Peterbilt e kenwolt, são verdadeiros tratores, the best!!

[@briantomcollins]

I gotta be honest, i really wasn't expecting such good racing...

[@jaredbeasley6348]

You don't realize how strong these trucks are until you see the normal trucks pulling that weight!!

[@blauer2551]

And you’d laugh at the places customers want you to back into fully loaded

[@notsofast5495]

1:50. Are these like a stock class? I’ve never seen these races before

[@Idividezero]

I have hauled a double belly dump that...lets say unofficially...weighed a bit more than 140k pounds, with a 475 Detroit in it. Believe me, I understand. Completely. It felt like I was driving a freight train.

[@MarcPhillip911]

@@Idividezero no

[@Idividezero]

@@MarcPhillip911 Okay, it wasn't literally like a train, but it was very very heavy and the Jake did pretty much nothing to slow me down. I started slowing down a mile in advance; the scale at the gravel pit had a max of 200k and it got a little too close for comfort so they stopped loading us so heavy. Dirt's heavy.

[@steelcityrailfan4808]

23:31. That black and green Pete was awesome lifting up like that

[@eriksimmons6713]

Very entertaining. Thanks for post.

[@chrisfisher398]

Idk why this is sooo satisfying to watch 🤣🤣

[@luciferlight5082]

It's incredible the amount torque these machines produce .imagine the intense stress on the drive train

[@williamross8405]

I love them all, the Ford cabovers, the superliners, that white FL with the black pipes... but that daycab Jimmy was the sickest thing in the house...

[@caterpillarslim1288]

I agree that daycab was siiiick itsa bummer his clutch kept slippin!

[@andrewengland971]

Those trucks sound so sick at the limiter. Love it. Plenty of bald eagles under the hood.

[@SebaSpeed]

Cool! Its like a slow motion drag race!

[@calvinevans8305]

13:28 that lumber is going to smell like diesel for a while. You walk into a newly built house and wonder why does this place smell like a pilot station? Lol

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidcaskey4669]

Those houses will be built for retired drivers

[@linkfan95]

I’m all for building a house that smells like diesel lol.

[@jeancadet5862]

Right 😂😆

[@thatsinteresting8810]

@@linkfan95 fresh wood or diesel is fine by me

[@MintMonte87ACSS312]

I’d be trying to get away fast too if I found this much lumber.

[@jadafire3000]

Hii

[@rs3unos]

Ong 🤣

[@MintMonte87ACSS312]

@@jadafire3000 hi

[@Professionaltrenchdigger]

Lmao

[@Jesse-B]

😂

[@deniseshephard3347]

All these Rigs are stunning the torque they produce its insane

[@shawnpowell5876]

Awesome video and these trucks that pour the black smoke are "BADASS" and these drivers are on their game!

[@WayneRandall]

And the EPA is worried about my little TDi. No matter, keep them black clouds rollin! Love the video!

[@annotten7413]

Very few things that are more beautiful than rolling coal

[@beeftec5862]

@@annotten7413 Rolling coal belongs in the 1980's. Fair enough racing trucks, but with the load as well is just OTT. If you could watch more powerful trucks that didn't put out any smoke, would you still be as interested?

[@chrisgoffe5048]

@@beeftec5862 ✓

[@raymondo162]

why are mercans sooooooo in love with great lungfuls of carcinogenic particulates for a hobby. never mind, eh ?? darwin's the winner - as you coat off the epa. ha ha, ha ha ha, ha ha. the chokes on you, emphysema boy

[@captainobvious6334]

@@beeftec5862 probably not as much- besides, show me the more powerful trucks that don’t blow any smoke.

[@clyde9767]

Randomly got recommended this, surprisingly enjoyable

[@AllJSeries]

Can’t stop watching 🤯

[@harryxos7565]

That turbodiesel whistling noise gotta love it.!!

[@burtbrooks7731]

Only 1 thing better than this, pro stock tractors💪 that says MERICA if I ever heard or seen it👊❤️🍺🇺🇸 shout out to all the men and women in our armed forces, If y’all can read this THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE 👊

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

Amen to that my friend! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@burtbrooks7731]

@@BUILTDIESELMAFIA yes sir👊

[@HJZ75driver]

Why do they need thanks for doing their job?

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

@@HJZ75driver pipe down scooter. They volunteer to do it so that others arent forced to do so. Its really not hard to understand.

[@burtbrooks7731]

@@HJZ75driver god bless ya sir

[@norcalsvt0354]

"So much torque the chassis twisted coming off the line"

[@JF-lt5zc]

you have to say it slower though.

[@killeralltires]

@@JF-lt5zc sounds like you just need to read it slower..

[@grantw.whitwam9948]

I noticed the Green truck actually hazed the tires come off the line.

[@lametraserillos1]

why all twisted left side ?? good question ...

[@Savagetechie]

@@lametraserillos1 because the engine all turn the same way.

[@dr.leonardhofstadtersavage6413]

Holy cow! That two semi trucks hauling ass, that's some serious torque.

[@rogerrettinger3225]

LOVE ever big rig on here ❤️

[@mickmammen7168]

@16:48 mark, that rig is pure bad ass and the screamin' Detroit is music to my ears 😎👌

[@lenrocoraf3709]

i had to stop the video to find this comment! Absolute music indeed!! my favorite of them all...

[@Wildstar40]

5:44 You can hear that Western Star miss a shift and grind.

[@3Dprintmates]

This event makes nature so happy.....

[@markbutton5082]

Always satisfying to watch

[@luisr.villanueva4941]

No this is why Home depot always telling me that their lumber is backordered!😂😂

[@jasoncentore1830]

Windows lately also. Window shortage? What's next?

[@annotten7413]

Jason Centore it’s not a shortage of any product- it’s a shortage in the supply chain. Look it up and do some research, it will make you mad

[@Barz365]

Boss man, "hey we have one more run for you" * me trying to go home*

[@pamike4873]

Hahaha...yep. It's Saturday morning, you just dropped, and the phone rings. Of course I don't answer it. I get a text. Don't bother looking. Phone rings again. Nope. And again. Nope. Then non-stop. Shit!! My broker: "It's on your way. It's easy, I promise. They're waiting to load you man. Just go in the office and tell them who you are. It drops like 30 miles from your house. $1K for 150 mil....." Wouldn't you know it, my phone died in mid-sentence. That's a shame. Shucks. Guess I'll go home.

[@johnm1720]

This was pretty badass, nice job on the vid.

[@jeffwoyjcik7882]

OMG YES !!! This Is The COOLEST Thing I Have Ever WATCHED !!!

[@zacharywright1196]

23:34 that torque...

[@johnphillips8088]

Could you just imagine setting a a stop light with him on the right of you 😂 LOL

[@blythkd9017]

The green Pete at 15:44 was a beast, I lost track of how many gears he pulled the front end in. But the screamin Jimmy at 16:47 stole my heart.

[@sandasturner9529]

YES!

[@theshapeexists]

Absolutely roasting those tires and still pulling like a beast. Badass

[@ocrapo9327]

Oh my goodness

[@chasebh89]

The green Pete is pushing something like 6000hp based on another video I saw. Absolutely gargantuan turbos 👌👌

[@richlymann6451]

Carb compliant no problem 😉 The cab overs and old Freightliners are representing ..

[@williamshakespeare9105]

I can feel the earth shaking and the smell of diesel smoke looking at this....I'm feeling it...hello from a fellow trucker (truckie) from Melbourne Australia.

[@roadwolf2]

It’s Just like the Hume on a Friday night.

[@boduke9428]

I never knew how much I enjoyed this. I'm already feeling the tug of the rabbit hole.

[@ballsacksniffer420]

Let the curiosity consume you

[@RamxToughx]

I can hear Greta screaming about the ozone all the way over here! Peg leg would be proud!

[@Ma_Deuce]

You don't need ozone...

[@timatwell3728]

How dare you lol spoiled brat is all she is

[@electric7487]

Yeah, if I was ever in a position to take her out on a date, I'd take her here.

[@jdogdiesel7242]

"Get two birds stoned wit the same joint"

[@prestonberg9604]

Fuckin give er the ketchup!!!

[@persiancucumber9255]

These trucks literally "flexin". Great sport!

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

I'm surprised we don't really do this in Australia... Big ass trucks is kinda our thing.

[@thomasbarlow4223]

For real tho

[@chrs-kr8kc]

the amount of stress and presure that these engines go through is just unmatchable man just the shear force that they create and how they r just able to life the whole front axel of the ground is insane GREAR VID KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK BROTHER

[@charliechristian1097]

Yeah all that torque just slamming back up the driveshaft and twisting the chassis like that it's frickin intense.

[@rdoonanco]

Those poor u joints hanging on for dear life while banging through the gears

[@82NeXus]

It's the torque of the low gears that twists them I think

[@240sxRule]

You know when the big rigs got two step, your in for a ride.

[@claytonandrews251]

Jake shifting

[@tylerwatkins9487]

You’re hearing fuel cut off the line.

[@240sxRule]

@@tylerwatkins9487 Obviously diesels have no ignition too cut. 2 step is basically just 2 rev limits. You can hear the truck at 1:04 spooling turbo with its 2step setup. A lot of other rigs in the video too.

[@tylerwatkins9487]

@@240sxRule it’s literally what I said. Fuel cut 😂. It’s not a “2 step”.

[@dadnelson4008]

Now that's merging power!!!

[@FoTwentyVlogs]

gotta love the frame twist

[@chrissmith7730]

So that's what half a million foot lbs of torque looks like!

[@fourbuick]

This is AWESOME! God Bless America!

[@railfanningmichael3970]

These trucks have Turbo Engines, I LOVE IT!!!!!!

[@topsoilterry]

Can't wait for Onaway this year!!!

[@lopezezequiel1987]

Every day is a race day when you are next to another trucker at a red light(manual transmission trucks only).... 😅 truckers will be truckers

[@blythkd9017]

If you know how to shift the manual is quicker anyway. They can have the automatics and the auto shifts.

[@peep39]

Clutch: "what are you doing?!?!?!"

[@backroadrunner7705]

What's a clutch?

[@BobY52944]

Favorite: GMC with the Screamin' Jimmy!

[@user-shumm]

Beautiful turbo sounds✨

[@nickbarlow5038]

Whistlin Diesel should have kept his cabover for this and destroyed it this way...

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

Heck yeah that would've been awesome.

[@blythkd9017]

He probably would have sh*t the bed right off the line.

[@MrDJ217]

That old Detroit run was awesome

[@slow40i]

It’s clutch was slippin ☹️

[@smdtoys9234]

This is an awesome video!

[@krameris1000]

Perfect American trucks, perfect day for rays ☀️

[@Tchristman100]

No worries of mosquitos after all that rolling coal.

[@godsgracefarm4576]

"How daaare you" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mw9984]

Who needs a day at the beach when you could take a deep breath there.

[@slick1ton849]

Those look like million dollars loads their haulin.....these must be the new try-outs from mill to store. Truck must be able to outrun thieves.

[@peterrivney552]

And do wheel stand and come down on there head now you know why lumber so expensive Have to replace truck parts..and pay ransom for lumber

[@lametraserillos1]

may be are bricks ... jaja or water

[@crusiethmaximuss]

23:30 Those are some angry day cabs... :D Love 'em both, but the green one is my favorite out of the two!!! :D

[@yeahok115sure]

Ya the turbos where screaming on that green and gray truck. Absolute ripper

[@crusiethmaximuss]

@@yeahok115sure Absolutely insane chassis twisting torque!!!

[@yeahok115sure]

@@crusiethmaximuss I’ve broken my cross member mounts from chassis twisted. I have no idea how those trucks stay together. Check out what I haul it’s huge

[@waynester71]

Love the Mack with a Duck bonnet/hood mascot 😎

[@ginggur17]

23:39, that’s what I’m talking about! Proper twist. 👍👍👍👍👍🇬🇧

[@RomeKG471]

Should be called "The Great Lakes Drivetrain Challenge"

[@raymondo162]

Should be called "the great lungs v carcinogenic particulates challenge"

[@B0RN2RACE100]

It seems someone replaced the injectors in some of those trucks with garden hoses lmao

[@DEEZNuts-pd2kv]

Yeah...they dont get miles per gallon like normal trucks lolz they have a gallons per mile rating that's like WTF.

[@annotten7413]

They definitely travel at a high rate of fuel consumption

[@blainebigger8332]

Smiles per gallon!!

[@juanmino3508]

Gracias por cuidar el medioambiente

[@paulgrindley8192]

The real hero's of this video are the U-joints.

[@larescats9228]

That yammer bammer at16:49 was flat gettin it Brings back memories

[@lenrocoraf3709]

yeeee haaa!! my favorite of them all, that screamin' jimmy there!

[@bubbafudpucker397]

@@lenrocoraf3709 Sounds like a 12V71.

[@supercuda1950]

Many races won or lost by a two by four. Many beautiful trucks, all awesome display of power. I'm surprised many races lost on the starting line were won on the top end. I love the patena (rust) on the bumper of the blue International. It didn't seem to slow it down. Thanks for the great show.

[@RCTRUCK123]

Thanks for sharing the video😘😍😍

[@lagerbeer1974]

This video is oozing torque.

[@Paulie1232]

The environmentalists must be losing their minds watching this and all the smoke from those diesel

[@annotten7413]

I love to see snowflakes melt

[@Paulie1232]

@@annotten7413 LOL

[@mdfishman1959]

Hahahaha

[@raymondo162]

i'm no tree hugger and i have to say it may possibly be you with the fecked head ?? do you, by any chance spend a lot of time inhaling carcinogenic particulates. good luck with that, emphysema lad

[@electric7487]

@@raymondo162 Yeah, you're definitely a tree hugger. Try again, buddy.

[@rxtuninginc8444]

Tesla transport would be fun to throw in the mix here. My favorite one was the one spewing all the black smoke

[@jopete681]

Mine too!!!!!

[@HJZ75driver]

@Josh Adams Most definitely could

[@kenbowser5622]

@@HJZ75driver what about at 10 degrees? Ev trucks were never checked in cold mountainous environments. Or the 100+ hot days. 140,000 lbs would also put a huge dent in battery longevity. EV's still have a way to go. Electric cars lose over 60% of their mileage pulling just 1000lb trailer.

[@steeldriver5338]

@@kenbowser5622 Weight is another factor, and one of the two main reasons (charging time being the other one) that trucking companies won't be operating EV's anytime soon, with the exception of local operations perhaps.

[@electric7487]

@@steeldriver5338 Medium haul and long haul trucking would be the best with hybrid trucks IMO, never fully electric. Delivery trucks, since they are short-haul, are a great area for full electrification via batteries or fuel cells.

[@laurencemoore2105]

If tractor pulling is the worlds most Powerful Motorsport, then this is surely the heaviest!

[@392Low]

Does anyone else love the sound

[@Random12231]

Damn, Ford CLs AND an LTL out there putting in work. That put a big fat smile on my face. Awesome video as always 👍

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

Thank you!!!

[@KPMACHINE1]

I’ve been needing this my whole life!

[@Tea_Sea69420]

Haulin hard, good lord ya love to see it

[@JohnnyWishbone85]

It isn't easy being both an environmentalist AND a vehicle enthusiast. Watching this hurts so good.

[@Ozarkprepper643]

Just remember it's a carbon-based world with carbon-based life-forms you end carbon you end life. And I don't know where you stand on electric, but it's easy to see politicians and corporations are looking to make a buck. If not they would already have wires running down the center lanes of our interstates and freeways transmitting electricity wirelessly to an electric motor (every vehicle assigned a frequency) saving on the massive batteries needed for any range. (You would only need a small one for surface streets.) Japan has been doing this in certain areas for close to two decades. But instead their Investments are in lithium , and or Samarium and Neodymium. The two Rare Earth elements needed for the magnets. All three of these are mined in open-pit mines just like copper. And there production process is completely toxic. And since they're rare are unsustainable. Must be the reason these same individuals behind closed doors insist on a 90% population reduction. They say behind closed doors but they actually publish videos of what they say and do. I only wish they'd volunteer to be the first to go. I'm old despite what they teach the smog and pollution levels in the 60''s, early 70's where several times higher than they are today despite a billion more vehicles on the road.

[@BlackEpyon]

@@Ozarkprepper643 There's a strawman argument if I've ever heard it. Several, actually.

[@jonathans4503]

I used to be an environmentalists, I mean I believed in every bs the politicians said. Then I realized their version is a lie. I mean, we're not moving forward unless China does its part. And no matter how much carbon tax we pay it won't change anything but make some other corrupted politicians richer

[@BlackEpyon]

@@jonathans4503 That's why I prefer to get my environmental science from actual scientists, rather than politicians who don't know anything.

[@Tubecraft1]

get rid of all the holiday air travel thats the real problem in my opinion