Great Time To Buy Vintage Cards? Pokémon 151 Distracting ?

[@orionsires]

Anybody feeling the vintage vibes lately ? I think the vintage market might be retracing a little?

[@Jvwny]

I’ve been picking up a lot of vintage Japanese/English singles in mint condition for pretty cheap recently 😅

[@Mr33cats]

I am feeling it! I think vintages may retrace a little.

[@MetalBum]

I think there will always be vintage vibes

[@kkcc11]

Arcanine Magma&Aqua 2003 is a Crazy Holo 🤌

[@NomadVMAX]

151 is way more exciting than vintage at the moment. Would rather spend my budget on packs. Probably pick up missing 151 singles after the UPC is out

[@fortress2785]

Vintage is suffering, its so hard to sell vintage slabs without selling it under market value. Speaking from a personal experience.

[@Possu81]

Prepare for long downhill. It's possible cards are still severely 'overpriced' and they are retracing now. Interesting to see did we see all time high prices. Not sure about Pokemon. With MTG it's more possible scenario.

[@orionsires]

Vintage bulk holos are suffering but many are still strong I do think a retrace is coming

[@orionsires]

Yeah it’s going to be very interesting to see what happens … either extremely painful or a time to rejoice that people are giving up on this hobby. I’ll be here regardless. Would love a price cut on some grail cards 😎🙏🏼

[@derekk2300]

Did you win today on Pokevaults live stream fortress 😂?

[@fortress2785]

@@derekk2300 yes lol

[@Mr33cats]

I have been collecting mostly vintages only. They are just beautiful!

[@orionsires]

I love vintage it never gets old to me… always gives me the best vibes 😎🙏🏼

[@Jarke]

I hope they do. I dream of 2018 prices and wish I bought more.

[@orionsires]

Forget 20l8 let’s go back to 2003 lol I just wish I hadn’t given up on TCG in general. Man I was so into it and then just gave it up just to end right back up where I started. Funny how life works.

[@deana6072]

You hit it on the nail vintage card prices went back up I remember Charizard base set2 doing $40 moderately played now it's at $120+ Or near mint lugia neo before at $180 now at $250-300

[@orionsires]

Yeah it’s wild how inflated things are and we’re still buying! 😂

[@Reijiiee]

Recently started picking up the E-reader series. So many good arts, so many good underrated deals out there as well.

[@orionsires]

Love all E reader cards ! 😎🙏🏼

[@karmacutioner1]

e-series has the best artwork of all the early era sets in my opinion, very low pops as you say, and some of the last things I would sell from my collection. And when the pops are that low and collectors hold, scarcity increases and lack of buying opportunities only become less so. And I’m not seeing a lot of Aquapolis or Expedition or Skyridge box breaks to add to the pops! I also love and own my favorite modern arts that I pulled or bought cheap, but my rule of thumb is churn modern and buy scarcity of the arts and sets you like the most as those buying opportunities are not guaranteed to persist. Very high liquidity, too, as you say. Agree 100% with your thinking. It’s a no lose game if you buy what you really want most in your collection.

[@orionsires]

Great comment ! Pretty much sums things up ! Definitely don’t see those boxes often and when you do they are 30k+ pricing most people out of buying them. I’m some ways, maybe an aquapolis box is better than buying a crystal? I wonder how many crystals you can get per box? 😎🙏🏼

[@karmacutioner1]

That’s a big ev gamble right there but I would love to watch that break!

[@AfterHoursCollector]

Great video bud. I’ve been taking a break from pokemon and waiting for the vintage stuff to come down, seems like maybe it has now?

[@orionsires]

Vintage has corrected for sure and might drop further. Pokémon botched this era badly enough it might keep people collecting older stuff. I think if SV era was truly a knock out vintage would fall even further because all the attention would be set on modern. 😎

[@AfterHoursCollector]

@@orionsires 100% agree, pokemon needs to get it together so vintage can keep coming down! lol and helps us appreciate Sw/SH even more

[@JediMasterT]

I've been trying to snipe up some vintage as well. It is a falling market TBH, I think the future of vintage is a mystery, I just enjoy them myself and glad to add them to my collection.

[@orionsires]

I don’t think it’s a mystery I think it is common sense to buy the older cards while they are still semi easy to find. One day you won’t be able to find base set unlimited anymore believe it or not haha. That day will come. Modern is not going anywhere as far as I’m concerned it’s a big bubble. Another ten years and modern will shine. 😎🙏🏼

[@benjamindean7536]

Bro you have an amazing card in the Rayquaza ❤❤ You should be very pleased with it.

[@orionsires]

I’m very happy with the ray no plans to give it up any time soon. Definitely the height of my collecting career! And a really cool story to go with it! 😎🙏🏼

[@deangelowilson5414]

Agreed I was like 👀

[@patan93]

I came back to the hobby with pokemon 151 after many years. And now I'm thinking about completing some of the older sets I have from the EX era. I enjoy having binder collections, so psa 5 to 6 is good enough for me just to look at the arts.

[@orionsires]

Right sometimes it’s just about enjoying them and not having them be “perfect” but I do appreciate the fact that higher grades are more liquid. That’s something I’ve learned to accept. Great comment! I’m glad you’ve come back with 151! A lot of people have come back to the hobby with this set. It’s a fun set! Brutal but fun! 😎😂

[@patan93]

@@orionsires It has been brutal, but fun indeed 😅 Gonna finish it up with singles and then eventually move over to the EX era sets if possible. I think complete sets are attractive even if they are in LP or Played condition.

[@TheBreakingProgram]

Whats Everyones Favorite Vintage Pack?? I Cant Pick From Either Gym Heros or Gym Challenge. Awesome Video!

[@orionsires]

I think gym challenge is pretty strong but I’m also a person that still likes base set 😎🙏🏼🤣

[@nicksaylor3288]

We always hear PSA 10 and 9 as all that matter, but what do you think about having wotc 1st editions in psa 8 for long term hold maybe even a 7?

[@orionsires]

I think they are great in the end of the price is right and the card itself appears clean that’s all that matters. But the card not the grade is the main thing. Thanks for watching 😎🙏🏼

[@jmc_-im6sd]

I would say buy the "card" not the "grade". The numbers are super subjective. If you've been around cards long enough, a strong 7 versus a weak 7 is easy to spot. Trust your eye!

[@nicksaylor3288]

@@jmc_-im6sd my opinion that's true short term when trying to just stack a collection. But having a long term mindset of like 10-20 years. Getting the slabs now with those quality cards will only boost returns in the long run but also you have your collection protected.

[@emilrandersen1]

The last portion of the video where you talked about the orders specifically in Denmark we were noted that if you ordered something it wouldnt be shipped without ALL of it being available. So if you ordered the ETB + UPC you would have to wait till the UPC is available. I think that might be the case for you aswell as they can't send half-completed orders?

[@orionsires]

Ahhhh ok that might apply to TCG stadium but should not apply to my GameStop order at all. I’m pretty bummed about the whole thing. I hope you’re right and everything works out! Thanks buddy 😎🙏🏼

[@emilrandersen1]

@@orionsires No problem. I just remembered as I got my ETBs today - only opened one and it did not disappoint! I hope that it just turns out to be the case for you!

[@Possu81]

What do you think about thought that tcgs might have been all time highs overally and we won't see higher prices? Not sure about Pokemon but I consider this in other games like mtg pretty realistic scenario.

[@orionsires]

This could absolutely be the truth. But I fear at the same time people will sell into fear and lose cards they thought would go down in price when the reality with Pokémon to me, is that we will see 10-20% retraces but overall strong market long term. Right now is a good time to buy IMO. I’m looking to buy and already seeing some great deals. I believe the Pokémon market is strong though. MTG and Yugioh have it much rougher. I wouldn’t want to be in those markets personally. Too risky. Hope this helps !! 😎🙏🏼

[@aaalex4669]

Been noticing some more videos of a reasonable length lol. Just being honest I am MUCH more likely to click your shorter videos. Sub 20 better than the usual 50 haha

[@orionsires]

Hey they are much easier to make so that’s all fine by me thanks for the support 😎🙏🏼

[@Gibbers5]

meh i rather have an unlimited 9 over a 1st ed 5 to be honest

[@orionsires]

The rant is about vintage as a whole not really about unlimited versus 1st edition. There’s no argument to be had there , the market for 1st edition is always going to be more liquid and stronger than unlimited. But unlimited is cost effective and a great way to have a near mint base set! I have no issues with those but I wanted to build a first edition master set and I couldn’t afford 9’s in the beginning so I started with 5’s 6’s and 7’s. I too actually would like base set unlimited and shadowless in 9’s but I have time to complete those goals. The 1st editions are drying up. Soon they won’t be available. Thanks for watching regardless and leaving a comment! 😎🙏🏼

[@doncardking2677]

I sold my raw crystal charizard reverse holo 2 years ago for $900...feel like it wouldnt have graded higher than an 8.5

[@orionsires]

But two years ago that was a solid deal to have made, thinking about leaving money on the table by not grading is always painful I wouldn’t be hard on yourself you sold for what it was worth at the time 😎

[@MarioGiustizia]

Right now I only collect vintage(unlim because I’m cheap lol). My issue with modern is, Japanese is so much nicer, but I hate the idea of collecting foreign cards lol. But I also hate buying an inferior product even if it’s cheaper. For vintage I feel like English and JP are both great and don’t feel bad about collecting English over JP, even in unlim. But I can’t lie, modern cards are gorgeous in their own right. Maybe I’ll just pickup the grails in Japanese like lugia and giratina v and collect everything else in English lol

[@orionsires]

Right there with you, lot of great deals for the unlimited cards, this is kinda me in a nutshell 😎😂

[@benjamindean7536]

I absolutely adore Vintage Pokémon ❤❤🧡💛💚💙❤🧡💛

[@orionsires]

Always gives me the feels and good vibes but man those 1st editions are getting pricey! 😎🙏🏼

[@Daigle420]

Were is the best place to buy older vintage cards not grails just basic holos

[@orionsires]

Check your local game shops, Craigslist, Facebook marketplace, goodwill, or eBay there are definitely deals to be had even if they aren’t grail cards! Lots of stuff out there just need to get good at looking for it! Or buy collections ? 😎🙏🏼

[@Daigle420]

@orionsires soliddd yeah I use ebay a bit It's great so far

[@LuisDiaz-mf1em]

@@Daigle420 Definitely eBay, whenever I have extra cash I’m always looking for near mint vintage cards on eBay for my personal collection either best offers or auctions. I’ve hit a few grails that I know will score 9 or 10 through PSA. It’s so much fun building ❤

[@rand0mGT]

The English is popular right now but the Japanese version will be the one to collect for long term investment

[@orionsires]

You think so? Idk lower pop English cards tell a different story 😎

[@rand0mGT]

@@orionsires I think so because it has the master ball set as well. English doesn’t have that. And the Japanese version has the booster box. I could be wrong tho but regardless both will definitely go up in price

[@Atorius913]

I have recently seen a 1st Ed Articuno fossil holo going for 1600. Which to me is insane and the lowest I have ever seen.

[@orionsires]

I’m assuming you are talking about a PSA 10 and yeah I think that would be low man… but yeah I’m seeing some numbers dropping hard ! 😎🙏🏼

[@Atorius913]

@@orionsires cgc 10 gem mint

[@SoapLand]

When you record with your mic on the left, the audio becomes left ear bias. If you've ever seen a podcast, this is why they're always talking on the mic. Please record future videos making sure you are "on the mic" while recording. Thank you kind sir.

[@crumplehornedsnorcack]

This guy audios!

[@orionsires]

Thanks for the advice ! No one’s ever said anything about the audio before but I’ll keep that in mind my friend 😎🙏🏼

[@orionsires]

Sure does 😎

[@TheFriskySquid]

Personally I'm glad we moved away from 1st editions. I collect mainly for art, and while I like the rarest cards in a set, I really only like them for their art over the common cards. A 1st edition stamp does mean it is rarer, but it isn't rarer because it is harder to pull, it is rarer because the entire set with that stamp was printed less. Same cards though. Love e series cards and beyond though, still vintage and no pesky 1st editions - I can just collect the set as I wish without limiting it to the same cards but rarer. Basically right now I want some of those vintage cards, but they are more expensive than ultra modern which I can get right now for really cheap so it's hard for those of us with less money (especially if we just returned to the hobby and have very few cards).

[@orionsires]

Absolutely agree with alot of what you are saying. While I am bias towards 1st editions they are kind of ridiculously priced and I understand going after the e reader series because none of them have stamps. I would definitely say go after all the alt arts you love before those go up in price and come back to vintage. But right now vintage is experiencing some downward pressure so I think it’s great for people who were cautious about buying in the last year. Great comment hope to hear more from you! Collecting is a marathon. I have myself burnt out many times trying to “collect it all” too fast. I’ve been collecting now for almost 4 years total from very small purchases to some of the biggest ever and these things come with time. It would be insane to jump right in to cards I’m describing. It takes lots of knowledge and understanding of supply and demand to know what cards to hold and invest in. Thanks for the great well written comment! Love to see it ! 😎🙏🏼

[@TheFriskySquid]

100% thanks for the videos as well.@@orionsires

[@KungFuKvn]

Keep up the vids man 👍🏾

[@orionsires]

Thanks man!! 😎🙏🏼

[@derekk2300]

I liked my own comment

[@OfficialSkinnieMike]

I Like that you liked you comment. I liked my comment as well

[@derekk2300]

@@OfficialSkinnieMike then I’ll like your comment too bud. Thanks

[@orionsires]

We love you Derek keep being you 😎🙏🏼

[@orionsires]

I liked that you liked him liking his comment

[@orionsires]

I’ll like your comment about liking his comment about liking your own comment

[@David1985_]

Charzards are the best!

[@orionsires]

Aren’t they though? Some people are wired to love charizard and I’m definitely one of them. Although rayquaza might actually take the cake because I grew up with Ray and remember vividly. 😎🙏🏼

[@Vmaxt]

It's never a good time to buy vintage cards. So ugly compared to modern stuff and I grew up with them. THROW EM IN THE GARBAGE WHERE THEY BELONG!

[@orionsires]

Haha strong opinion but I respect all points of view here! For me I’m very sentimental about vintage so it’s a safe place for me. At the collect a con I saw modern alts at every table they were extremely undervalued but I fear modern will suffer a bit before it finally takes off. We had a big modern bubble these last few years. Vintage is always kind of stable for the most part. Always buyers for vintage. I’ve had a harder time selling modern cards. Great comment regardless thanks for watching 😎🙏🏼

[@Matterahfact]

sounds like an Alex joke lmao (NostalgiaNomics)

[@Vmaxt]

For sure! They are just sooo much nicer to look at, and at the end of the day isn't that all that matters? :p@@orionsires

[@deangelowilson5414]

Vintage is so ugly and you grew up on them? Modern looks better? Hard disagree. Name any beautiful modern card and I’ll show you there superior vintage card art. Take the new age grail for example (evo skies moonbreon) the wizard of the coast moonbreons are soo much better/nicer art/ lower pop. And it’s fiiiiire. Like just looking at it the art is way better. Vintage will never die. And actually is a very decent time to pick up some wotc goodness. It will rise again