Great Tribulation & Rapture TIMING BREAKDOWN!

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[@monkeyflower954]

This is one of prophecy's greatest misconceptions. The Rapture and the Second Coming are often confused, but they are distinct events, with distinct purposes, on God's prophetic timeline. The seals will be open during the tribulation. There will be people saved during the tribulation. The Rapture could occur at any moment. The Second Coming will occur seven years later.In the twinkle of an eye, I'm ready to fly.

[@haschelhall1039]

Youre right on point

[@Frank-st6gd]

Proof of A Pre trib Rapture. Pay Attention to the Cloud and Clouds Jesus appears In and With. Acts chapter 1 verses 9 10 11 Cloud. In Red Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 Jesus is coming In A Cloud the Rapture. In Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 Jesus is coming With the Clouds when he comes back to the Mt of Olive the second coming KJV.

[@haschelhall1039]

I am with you I got that revelation

[@haschelhall1039]

You're right on point

[@trustandglorify42]

God is so good! Thank you for sharing and connecting.

[@lesliekendall5668]

The trib is the 5th Seal that immediately precedes Christ's return at the 6th Seal. And the 2 Witnesses are at the 6th Trumpet (because they're the 2nd Woe, Rev 11) so they're not happening at the same time.

[@trustandglorify42]

Thank you for your comment. God bless.

[@josephwillis9887]

If you're teachable, then you still have studying to do. The pre trib is the only teaching that truly makes sense. Mid trib or pre wrath is weak at best, and post trib is just crazy.

[@trustandglorify42]

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[@BIG_r.]

@@trustandglorify42 Jesus debunked the pretrib secret rapture 2,000 years ago, amen... John 16:33 kjv These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 15:20 kjv Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. Jesus prayer: John 17:15 kjv I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

[@BIG_r.]

@@josephwillis9887 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 niv 1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us-whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter-asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. verse 1 👉our gathering is when he come verse 2 👉our gathering unto him is called "the Day of the Lord" verse 3 👉 for that day (speaking of the Day of the Lord) shall not come unless apostasy comes first and the anti-christ is revealed, so don't be decieved, amen???

[@BIG_r.]

@@RandyRoth-mo3lz pretribbers don't even believe that there are Christian Jews in Israel that believes in Jesus :) church is only gentiles, they claimed Matthew 24:9, verse 13, and 14 are for the unbelieving Jews when in verse 1 it was the apostles and Jews believers who asked and it pertains to the Jews believers. Doesn't matter if the Jews are Christians they will go through the tribulation because they are Jews.

[@joythomas115]

It's revealed, Seals will come into effect in the reverse order, and it's not from 1 to 7... It may be opened in the same order in the spirit world first, but manifestation will be in the reverse order in the physical world ...just like, king David was ordained as king by the prophet when David was young but it took years for the people to see him in throne...Rapture is pretrib... All glory to Lord Jesus..

[@adogajoseph9988]

If you believe in anything called the church, revelation 1-3 speaks of the church, but chapter 4 verse 1, God's voice comes as a trumpets and door is opened in heaven, and the church is never mentioned again, till the end of revelation, how hard is that, you people make the scriptures look too complex

[@lesliekendall5668]

And ignoring 1 Cor 15:36 and believing you're better than Jesus is blasphemy. Actually it calls you a fool.

[@jerrylanders3641]

But John doesn't see a multitude of people until revelation 6 right after the sun goes dark and the moon doesn't give it light just like Jesus said in Matthews then in Revelation 7 the wrath of God starts

[@lesliekendall5668]

@@jerrylanders3641 I know you weren't talking to me but I can show you every bit of what prophecy is saying. Jesus returns AND STAYS at the 6th Seal (Psalm 23 & Micah 7:14) and the angels don't receive their Trumpets until the 7th Seal, Rev 8:1-2. So the 7th Seal begins God's wrath while "the Lamb and those who are with Him" (Rev 17:14) are wandering in the Jezreel valley while the wrath plays out on the rest of the world. The person that we were replying to wouldn't be so cocky if they only knew that the rapture isn't for another 1,000+ years and that it's only "the church of Philadelphia" in Rev 3:10 that are protected during the trib. They're the people of Isa 35:1-7 and Micah 7:14. The 5th Trumpet also proves that Jesus stays when He returns at the 6th Seal. And that order also proves that the 6th Seal and 7th Trumpet CANNOT BE the same event. And they're not. It's the same order as Rev 20.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@@jerrylanders3641 Do you see in Rev 20 where it tells us WHEN Christ's kingdom BEGINS?....in a general sense. It cannot begin until AFTER the trib because the martyrs are there, Rev 20:4-6. Okay, NOW ADD A THOUSAND YEARS TO THAT TIMELINE. And THIS earth doesn't flee away until after the 1,000 years are finished, Rev 20:11. And the wheat and tares are the CHILDREN born in that 1,000 years, Matt 13:38. You see when "Jesus and those who are with Him" (in the wilderness) walk to Zion (Isa 35:8-10) after Armageddon for the judgment of the nations (Matt 25:31) and some people are put on His right hand, it's saying His KINGDOM will start out with "all wheat". But there will be children born in that 1,000; years and because of the bad seed that the devil sowed in the garden, some of the CHILDREN will be wheat (obedient) and some will be tares (rebellious). THAT'S who will be raptured at the last trump, the 7th Trumpet, the Trumpet OF GOD on the "last day" of SEVEN thousand years AFTER Death is cast into the fire, 1 Cor 15:26 & Rev 20:14. Christ's 1,000 year reign on THIS earth is NOT the kingdom that flesh and blood cannot inherit. And the subject of 1 Thess 4:14-17 is GOD, NOT Jesus. It says "GOD brings the dead in Jesus", NOT Jesus. So it's saying "The Lord GOD will descend...." and those people are rising up to the ETERNAL, incorruptible New Jerusalem on the NEW earth, NOT "the church" going to heaven. You can ask me any question about prophecy and I can answer it straight out of Scripture.

[@dmcgwhisper5945]

Yep. True.

[@trustandglorify42]

@@dmcgwhisper5945 Thank you for the comment. God bless!

[@lesliekendall5668]

There's nothing in the 7th Trumpet that says it precedes the 1st Vial. The first Vial is a part of God's wrath on the people who took the mark (Rev 16:2) and the 7th Trumpet says it's when He, Jesus, has ALREADY reigned and the ungodly will be judged (Rev 11:17 & 18)...and that's at the end of seven thousand years.

[@trustandglorify42]

I hope this might bless you! Have any questions? Comment below and I will try to respond. 🙏

[@squirreljones3595]

Why did Mystery Babylon add the church to the thousand year reign without one Bible verse that supports it John 6 39 40 44 54 Jesus says at the last day four times The church rapture is after the thousand year reign. It's all there in Revelation 20

[@squirreljones3595]

@@RandyRoth-mo3lz The first resurrection is pre wrath It's all there in Revelation 6 Every time the pre wrath first resurrection is mentioned Only the Saints that overcome the mark of the beast are mentioned Revelation 14 16 Angel's reaping Revelation 15 2 Saints only Revelation 20 4 Saints only Revelation 20 5 First Resurrection I'm glad you can see the first resurrection There's a thousand years after the first resurrection John 6 39 40 44 54 Jesus says at the last day four times The church rapture is absolutely real The church rapture is at judgement day That's why you can't find one Bible verse that promised the thousand year reign to the church

[@squirreljones3595]

@@RandyRoth-mo3lz Jesus loves to expose prophets The church rapture is at judgement day It's all there in Revelation It only takes 70 minutes to listen to Revelation If Jesus was giving the thousand year reign to the church there would be a Bible verse that says so Just tell me why you add the church to the thousand year reign without one Bible verse that supports it And tell me why you think there's more days after the day Jesus calls the last day John 6 39 40 44 54 Jesus says at the last day four times Jesus loves to expose prophets Can't wait for the Bible verses that you give me

[@squirreljones3595]

@@RandyRoth-mo3lz Paul gave you WE SLEEP DEAD and DEATH 1 Corinthians 15 51 -56 The second resurrection in Revelation 20 sounds exactly the same I've been telling people for nine years The church rapture is after the thousand year reign I'm not the one subtracting the bride of Christ from Revelation 20 15 And adding her to Revelation 20 5 But the rest of the DEAD lived not again until the thousand years have finished. This is the first resurrection 1 Corinthians 15 Paul says the resurrection of the DEAD four times before verse 52 1 Corinthians 15 52 the DEAD are raised I suppose you want me to believe DEAD is different when Paul says it Just like first only means first when Paul says it And SLEEP must be something different Because no matter what Jesus shows you You are going to keep adding the church to the thousand year reign

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

@@squirreljones3595 Squirrel.... do yourself a favor and consider what the "resurrection of the dead" actually represents. In 1 Cor 15, Paul starts out by calling people "fools" who don't understand it. That is because his beef was with the Sadducees who didn't believe in the resurrection of the dead... Acts 23:8. in 1 Thess 4:13-18... Paul starts out by telling us that he doesn't want us ignorant to what happens to the dead. The resurrection of the dead maintains the focus on the dead.... whereas the unbiblical term "rapture" redirects the focus onto the living. After the redirection is secured... all sorts of lies break loose! As any good magician knows, the art of deception is redirection. The resurrection of the dead.. is just that... plain and simple... the dead returning to life as exemplified with Lazarus. Paul tells us that the dead return with Christ... 1 Thess 4:14 and get their Earth suits returned to them so that they can rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years in the physical... 1 Cor 15:44... Terrestrial... vs 40, flesh and blood...vs 50. Verse 50 tells us that these resurrected individuals do not go to heaven.... yet the lie of a rapture is that everyone getting raptured goes to heaven for a period of time. Jesus modeled His return in Acts 1:9-14 and we are told that He will return in "like manner as He left". He comes from Heaven to the sky/clouds and then continues to the mount of olives with all of His saints... Zech 14;4,5 The fact is that the dead are getting their terrestrial realm bodies returned to them....1 Cor 15:40.. the opposite of 2 Cor 5;8... so that they will not be ghosts or disembodied spirits for the duration of the 1000 year reign of Christ. The lie of a rapture is pretrib. Prewrathers are just the next generation of the same lie... only moving the lie around.

[@lesliekendall5668]

The "great" trib portion of the overall trib period (in Matt 24) is only the last 45 days. Compare Dan 12:11 & 12 with Matt 24:15 & 30. Write the number 1290 in Dan 12:11 next to Matt 24:15. Then write the number 1335 in Dan 12:12 next to Matt 24:30. 1335 minus 1290 is 45. The last 45 days of the beast's 42 months.

[@randymodisete4743]

COMPAIR REVELATION 5:9 CHURCH TO 6:9 TRIBULATION SAINTS YOU CHOOSE

[@trustandglorify42]

The tribulation saints will be partially sanctified Book of Remembrance souls, who will die before the rapture. They end up flowing into the Book of Life later, if they except the gospel that the 2 witnesses will preach to them in the spirit realm during the 3.5 days the witnesses are there, at the great latter rain. The singers are the elders, 24 of the 144,000 who will be wholly sanctified Book of Life souls, who will not die, and will be raptured. Both groups are the church. Blessings.

[@lesliekendall5668]

The 144,000 wouldn't need to be sealed if they were going to heaven. They're sealed because the 5th Trumpet tells us they're still on earth.

[@dmcgwhisper5945]

I fear the great falling away will be of the pre trib rapturists who turn their backs because of tribulation.

[@trustandglorify42]

@@dmcgwhisper5945 It could definately have an impact on them.

[@lesliekendall5668]

Does ANYONE out there care about the Truth NO MATTER what it might reveal? The Seals and Trumpets are in order, no one is better than Jesus, and all prophecy agrees without a single contradiction. too, oh, ate, five, oh, five, oh, too, oh, too. And I'm not going to listen to anyone telling me one word of prophecy is a lie. And NO ONE is going to heaven in the rapture. If you can't handle that then DON'T CALL. If you TRULY want to know THE TRUTH, I can show it to you. I can answer any question about prophecy straight out of Scripture. One more thing. If you're not living how God told us to live then don't waste my time, the Truth isn't for you.

[@qwerty-so6ml]

Only one Gospel: The Gospel of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.

[@lesliekendall5668]

The first Seal isn't the timing of the beast of Rev 13. The beast's 42 months immediately precedes the return of Jesus at the 6th Seal which makes the 5th Seal the beast's time....and since the 5th Seal sounds mid-trib, his 42 months may also include all or part of the 4th Seal.

[@joythomas115]

It's revealed, Seals will come into effect in the reverse order, and it's not from 1 to 7... It may be opened in the same order in the spirit world first, but manifestation will be in the reverse order in the physical world ...just like, king David was ordained as king by the prophet when David was young but it took years for the people to see him in throne...Rapture is pretrib... All glory to Lord Jesus..

[@lilywildfacescattery4791]

Revelation 6:17 shows that the Wrath comes there in some Bibles, but not in KJV or NIV several Bibles show this including ESV including

[@trustandglorify42]

The KJV and ESV are similar and they show that the bad people in that verse will be in fear of God, but won't know the Word of God's sequence of events. They didn't know that things would get even worse for them.

[@lesliekendall5668]

EXACTLY!! Thank you for pointing that out. Because this is the order: Jesus returns at the 6th Seal and the angels don't RECEIVE their Trumpets until the 7th Seal, Rev 8:1-2. The Trumpets are also a part of God's wrath. AND the 6th Seal and 7th Trumpet ARE NOT the same event. Same order as Rev 20. Christ's kingdom that begins AFTER the trib begins 1,000 years before this earth "flees away" (Rev 20:11) and GOD then brings the New Jerusalem on the NEW earth.

[@trustandglorify42]

@@lesliekendall5668 Blessings Leslie!

[@lesliekendall5668]

Okay, I went through the whole video and have told you the Truth straight out of Scripture so now if you say you disagree, it just means you're calling Scripture a lie.

[@lesliekendall5668]

The Son isn't the Father. When Jesus is reigning on the earth in Rev 20, verse 9 tells us God is still in heaven.

[@lesliekendall5668]

You people do understand that the one with the iron teeth/the false prophet comes on the scene before the little horn/ a-C, right? Rev 13 is showing us the authority order in the beast's final hour, as the 2nd angel of Rev 14 tells us.

[@lesliekendall5668]

Again, the rapture is for the wheat at the end of Christ's KINGDOM after Death has been cast into the fire, Matt 13:38 & Rev 20:14. Which is at the end of SEVEN thousand years.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@DaThickSimmer Yes, Death is cast into the fire after the 1,000 year reign (Rev 20:14) BUT the 1,000 year reign doesn't begin until after the trib because the martyrs killed DURING the trib are there, Rev 20:4-6.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@DaThickSimmer What I was saying is that Jesus reigns for the last "day" of Creation. The years 6,000 to 7,000. So after Christ's 1,000 year reign, 7,000 years will be the time it took from the earth being created until this earth "flees away", Rev 20:11.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@DaThickSimmer "Time" does NOT end when Jesus returns (as the preachers profess) but rather there's another 1,000+ years after His return.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@DaThickSimmer Another thing people should understand about "death and hell" is that isn't what the Greek says. The 4th horsemen are Thanatos (the god of death) and Hades (the god of the underworld), both "small g" gods. Just like Apollyon is one of the gods. Jesus doesn't cast an idea or concept into the lake of fire but actual entities that come out of hell.

[@trustandglorify42]

@@lesliekendall5668 I agree :)

[@lesliekendall5668]

Isn't it just like the devil? I've been trying to get my phone to charge up all day and it's just been slowly dwindling down. If anyone wants to talk to me or has a question I might not get to you until tomorrow (that's when a new battery is supposed to come). But just keep trying.

[@lesliekendall5668]

The rapture is for the wheat at the end of Christ's kingdom, Matt 13:38 after Death is cast into the fire. You're not better than Jesus.

[@trustandglorify42]

No human is better than Jesus. He is our Lord. 🙏❤️

[@lesliekendall5668]

@@trustandglorify42 When does Micah 7:14 take place? I'll simplify it for you. "Shepherd the people of Thy heritage, who are in a woodland, in the midst of Carmel and feed them in Bashan and Gilead". So those people are there BEFORE He returns (Isa 35:1-7). And if you make a triangle of those 3 locations, He and "those who are with Him" are basically wandering in the Jezreel valley. The area that contains the plains of Megiddo. "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death....", Psalm 23. Jesus HAS TO return before the 1,000 year reign begins. And I've already shown that He and the sealed are still on the earth at the 5th Trumpet.

[@adogajoseph9988]

You can't just jump to seals or Vails, Go read Isaiah 26:17-21 your emphasis should be on verse 20, digest it very well, then come back and delete these video

[@trustandglorify42]

Blessings brother.

[@lesliekendall5668]

There's not a single person I've found who's correct about the timing of the rapture. Tell me, does Matt 13:38 say the wheat and tares are the CHILDREN of Christ's KINGDOM or does it say they're the church? And Christ's 1,000 year reign cannot begin until AFTER the trib because the martyrs killed DURING the trib are there, Rev 20:4-6. Common sense. And that makes His reign between the years 6,000 and 6,999. So NOW tell me when the rapture is. 1 Thess 4:14-17 is talking about when GOD brings the New Jerusalem on the new earth, NOT when Jesus returns. Let me show you something. Jesus returns at the 6th Seal and the angels don't RECEIVE their Trumpets until the 7th Seal, Rev 8:1-2. That tells us 2 things. That the Trumpets are also a part of God's wrath AND that the 6th Seal and 7th Trumpet CANNOT BE the same event. And they're not. They begin a thousand years apart. So if you've read this far, I'll tell you what the PRE-TRIB event is to satisfy Rev 3:10. It's a relocation event like what happened to Philip in Acts 8:39-40 and is to the wilderness, a woodland, in the midst of Carmel (Micah 7:14). And just like Noah and Lot, it's ON EARTH and still in the flesh. 1 Cor 15:36 says ALL flesh has to die to be made alive. And that law stands until Death is cast into the fire at the end of SEVEN thousand years....at which time the wheat in Christ's KINGDOM will be like Adam again. They WON'T BE ABLE TO DIE to be made alive so God will HAVE TO "instantly change" them for HIS eternal kingdom, the New Jerusalem on the NEW earth. Otherwise, you're saying that you're better than Jesus. And 1 Cor 15:36 says anyone who believes that is a fool.

[@trustandglorify42]

Blessings to you.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@@trustandglorify42 Don't blow me off. Look up EVERY WORD I said.

[@lesliekendall5668]

You said we could ask questions so where is it written that you get the idea that the 1st Vial follows the 7th Trumpet?

[@trustandglorify42]

First, the timing of the scroll in Rev. 10 is given by the 7th Trumpet Angel, before tribulation starts. Then the witnesses go for 1,260 days. The scroll has been given to me and it is available to all now. It is called, "The Book of God's Mysteries". To answer your question more directly... Rev. 15:1... the Vials need to be filled by the evil doers first. So, the Vials are poured out at the very end. Rev 16:2... the Vials are clearly after the Seals. Rev. 8:1-2 show how Seal 7 goes into Trumpet 7. Rev 16:17... "It is done". Vials cannot be before the Trumpets. The Vials are very last. The Trumpets are after the Seals. The Vials after the Trumpets.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@@trustandglorify42 I understand the Seals precede the Trumpets. But the angel in Rev 10 has a BOOK and when he says "time is no longer", THAT'S at the end of the 1,000 year reign. Time doesn't end at Christ's return. And it doesn't end before the trib. There's another 1,000 years after Christ returns. And THAT'S the same time the 7th Trumpet sounds....after the 1,000 years are finished. The mysteries of God are finished and "It is done" is at the end of the 1,000 year reign. How can anyone see that Christ reigns for a specific amount of TIME after His return but then say there's no more time after He returns???

[@trustandglorify42]

@@lesliekendall5668 As long as God exists, time exists. Time is snapshots of moments of existence. The time refered to in Revelation speaks to the age. The Book's purpose is for the deeciples at the very end of the age, to try and teach, exhort, edify, and comfort them, to continue in following Christ correctly, with hope.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@@trustandglorify42 All of the Trumpets cannot sound before the Vials begin because the Vials are a part of God's wrath on the marked and the 7th Trumpet happens at the end of the 1,000 year reign. Rev 10 says so. Time doesn't end until 7,000 years are finished. The mystery is then complete and then GOD brings HIS house on the new earth where there is no more time.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@@trustandglorify42 "Time is no longer" said the angel in Rev 10. There's a difference in the limited TIME of this earth's existence and God's eternal one.

[@eddie8202]

31/2 = 42 months

[@trustandglorify42]

Yes sir.

[@stonethecrowshomestead]

maara gould u tube has awesome clear info on this

[@eddie8202]

@@stonethecrowshomestead u tube you believe look into your bible

[@lesliekendall5668]

And WHY do you suppose the nations gather at Armageddon? A specific little remote spot on the whole earth. Do you think they're going to gather there to shake their fists at the sky? Or is it because maybe, just maybe that's where "the Lamb and those who are with Him" (Rev 17:14) WILL BE? "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death (the bloody plains of Megiddo), I will fear no evil for Thou art WITH ME".

[@trustandglorify42]

Kindly, I have to ask you to please also be kind. Thank you.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@@trustandglorify42 I didn't intend for anything I said to be unkind but if that's how you're receiving it then I'll go my way.

[@lesliekendall5668]

​@@trustandglorify42 If you're meaning is the way I responded to the liar then yes, I'm done with him and it won't happen again. I'm sure he's very pleased he got under my skin.

[@trustandglorify42]

@@lesliekendall5668 You bless me 🙏

[@elvelodelasombra2.064]

It is enough for me to listen to 59 seconds of the video to show you with two verses that you are totally wrong... Because you consider that the WRATH OF GOD. They are the cups of Wrath. But that is a hook that God sets so that we can identify those who are not serious about studying. Because the Bible tells you that the WRATH OF GOD is: seals, trumpets and bowls. where?? "And he said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sat on the throne, and from the WRATH of the Lamb: For the great DAY OF HIS WRATH is come; and who shall be able to stand?" [Revelation 6:16-17] For 2 consecutive times the Word of God tells you that in the sixth seal, the wicked themselves RECOGNIZE the times and know that they are in the midst of the WRATH OF GOD. So the stamps are part of the IRA. The other verse that dismantles a PRE-WRATH rapture is: "And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvelous, seven angels having the seven LAST PLAGUES; for in them is FILLED UP the wrath of God." [Revelation 15:1] Here the Word of God is telling you that all the vials of wrath CONSUME the wrath of GOD. It does NOT tell you that drinking starts ANGER. Because the set of the 7 plagues are the LAST PLAGUES. LAST regarding what???? to the seals which are the initial plagues and the trumpets which are the intermediate plagues. So... the Bible is very clear. So if we don't study properly, it's better not to make videos, brother...

[@trustandglorify42]

The Lord carries out the wrath. There are levels of punishment. The 7 Vials of Wrath are the wrath of God. Be blessed.

[@BIG_r.]

@@elvelodelasombra2.064 You have to believe the words of Jesus and not the words of men, amen.... John 6:40 kjv And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 11:23-24 kjv Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. compare that to what apostle Paul said... 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 kjv 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. verse 52 --> the dead shall be raised (Jesus said at the last day) verse 53 --> mortal to immortality (clearly speaks of the resurrection.... at the last day) verse 54 --> no longer affected by death ... read previous passages... 1 Corinthians 15:25-26 kjv For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death (that clearly speaks of the resurrection:) so how can there be a rapture/resurrection prior to the tribulation when the anti-christ still bussy creating chaos on earth during the great tribulation???

[@elvelodelasombra2.064]

@@BIG_r. wow, your conscience is absolutely darkened towards the eschatological map that the Word of God gives you. The last day has a multiple application and that is why you do not understand and mix all things without attending to the contexts of each fragment of the Bible. The LAST DAY for the time of the RESURRECTION of those who died peacefully with the faith of God and the rapture of the living, is the LAST DAY OF THE church AGE (when the number of the Gentiles is completed) That LAST DAY too It has its fulfillment when all the martyrs throughout history and those who die in the great tribulation are RESURRECTED at the end of the 7 years. Because they will enter the Millennial Kingdom and rule with Christ. And finally, the last day that refers to the Judgment of the Great White Throne, will be the JUDGMENT of all those who have been in hell for the 1,000 years of the millennium or who are already dead and will be resurrected to be judged for their own works before for the entire people of God to enter Eternity. So friend... please stop making it obvious that you have no idea how to draw God's Word correctly. Ask the Father for revelation and stop being a stumbling block to others with the meaningless things you write.

[@elvelodelasombra2.064]

@@BIG_r. wow, your conscience is absolutely darkened towards the eschatological map that the Word of God gives you. The last day has a multiple application and that is why you do not understand and mix all things without attending to the contexts of each fragment of the Bible. The LAST DAY for the time of the RESURRECTION of those who died peacefully with the faith of God and the rapture of the living, is the LAST DAY OF THE church AGE (when the number of the Gentiles is completed) That LAST DAY too It has its fulfillment when all the martyrs throughout history and those who die in the great tribulation are RESURRECTED at the end of the 7 years. Because they will enter the Millennial Kingdom and rule with Christ. And finally, the last day that refers to the Judgment of the Great White Throne, will be the JUDGMENT of all those who have been in hell for the 1,000 years of the millennium or who are already dead and will be resurrected to be judged for their own works before for the entire people of God to enter Eternity. So friend... please stop making it obvious that you have no idea how to draw God's Word correctly. Ask the Father for revelation and stop being a stumbling block to others with the meaningless things you write.

[@DaViSaGa]

@@BIG_r. wow, your conscience is absolutely darkened towards the eschatological map that the Word of God gives you. The last day has a multiple application and that is why you do not understand and mix all things without attending to the contexts of each fragment of the Bible. The LAST DAY for the time of the RESURRECTION of those who died peacefully with the faith of God and the rapture of the living, is the LAST DAY OF THE church AGE (when the number of the Gentiles is completed) That LAST DAY too It has its fulfillment when all the martyrs throughout history and those who die in the great tribulation are RESURRECTED at the end of the 7 years. Because they will enter the Millennial Kingdom and rule with Christ. And finally, the last day that refers to the Judgment of the Great White Throne, will be the JUDGMENT of all those who have been in hell for the 1,000 years of the millennium or who are already dead and will be resurrected to be judged for their own works before for the entire people of God to enter Eternity. So friend... please stop making it obvious that you have no idea how to draw God's Word correctly. Ask the Father for revelation and stop being a stumbling block to others with the meaningless things you write.

[@johnnymav1]

2347 thlípsis - properly, pressure (what constricts or rubs together), used of a narrow place that "hems someone in"; tribulation, especially internal pressure that causes someone to feel confined (restricted, "without options"). The tribulation period has passed, the great restrictions of the plandemic was what Jesus warned so much about, do not be decieved he said..many were.. armageddon is the end and when judgement kicks in, the rapture will happen at same time, we are not appointed to wrath..tribulation we will see, we did, we were restricted, those that were not decieved..

[@adogajoseph9988]

If you believe in anything called the church, revelation 1-3 speaks of the church, but chapter 4 verse 1, God's voice comes as a trumpets and door is opened in heaven, and the church is never mentioned again, till the end of revelation, how hard is that, you people make the scriptures look too complex

[@carolynhenderson1010]

Read the Bible yourself let the Holy Spirit teach you guide you into all truth Bible teaches Jesus returns after the Tribulation not before Mathew 24 29 v30 Mathew13 v30 John 17v15

[@trustandglorify42]

@@carolynhenderson1010 Blessings. Correct, the rapture is after tribulation ends for the children of God. Tribulation then continues for a short while longer, to finish Trumpet 7's 7 Vials of God's Wrath. Then, it is done.

[@heavencalling3808]

It was a great teaching thanks for ministering let me look up for this book i see.

[@trustandglorify42]

Thank you! God is Good! I can either physically mail a paperback to you or email you a PDF of the Book, for free. I'd just need your address and name. You can email me, Robert, at [e-mail]. If you'd like a hardcover, like the one in the video, you can find that here: www.amazon.com/Book-Gods-Mysteries-Urgent-Prophecies/dp/166286812X/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1NJ9ENA5368ML&keywords=trust+and+glorify&qid=1689999277&sprefix=trust+and+glorify%2Caps%2C258&sr=8-2

[@heavencalling3808]

@@trustandglorify42 Wow this will do me so great if I get the pdf I would like a hardcover book too but am very far. Let me email you thanks.

[@trustandglorify42]

@@heavencalling3808 That sounds great. I will look for your email and reply there. 🙏

[@stephenmiller9675]

God poured out his wrath on the cross so born again Christians don’t have to go through it! I’m looking for Jesus Christ not the AntiChrist! All I am saying. Not going to argue.

[@trustandglorify42]

I agree that Christians will not have wrath on them. Only the unsanctified will. I appreciate you, brother. Have a blessed day 🙏❤️

[@eddie8202]

I pray you people are correct JESUS HAVE MERCY!

[@lesliekendall5668]

The 2 Witnesses come on the scene at the 6th Trumpet as I've already explained.

[@nivek944]

Actually there is ONLy One interpretation that is Biblical at 0:25 Jesus said " AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH, so shall it be in the time of the coming of the Son of Man!".. That is Just as Noah NEVER EXPERIENCED one drop of God's Judgement, likewise None of the saints will experience ONE DROP of God's Judgement! Why? Simply because the LOrd Jesus took upon Himself all that ' Wrath of GOd, that was our due, upon the Lamb was ;laid'! 😇 Just as well that the Lord and the Father loves us so much, because if I had my way, I would leave the Amillenials behind, and the mid tribs , post tribs, etc behind too! Then they will learn ...perhaps.... to believe ALL the Word of God! 😙😊

[@trustandglorify42]

@@nivek944 Blessing to you, in your walk.

[@Brad-xb6sr]

Explain scripture that says, "FIRST the tares are gathered into bundles to burn, THEN the wheat is gathered into Fathers Barn. Sounds like a violent taking of the fennel wheat, aka the tares, no nutritional value, no spiritual value, chaff to be burned fast!!!!!!!

[@trustandglorify42]

@@Brad-xb6sr Good day. This is a parable and so it is likened to more than thing, as you know. It is tied to identifying the unsanctified people and then the others are the sanctified people. The unsanctified are divided and separated-out at Seal 7's/Trumpet 7's Vial 7 (Rev. 16:17-21). And then, the wholly-sanctified are with the Lord for the millennial reign (the 1,000 years on earth), before the Tabernacle of God (the eternal Heaven to come) comes down afterward. So, in this order, we see the parable's truth. Vial 7, and then later, the eternal Heaven. There are a couple Code Words in Matt. 13:24-30 that have been revealed in the last handful of years. "Wheat" means God's good works: His will being done, by His serving children. The teaching: those who go to Heaven will have done the Father's good will -- a condition of us living by faith (continuing to express our belief of God, toward the LORD). Also, the "barn" is Abraham's Bosom. At the time of Vial 7, all of the sanctified, of all time, will have been brought to this flesh realm, which includes father Abraham. So, the barn, Abraham's Bosom, is on earth at that time. And, Abraham is with the Lord. We all are with Abraham and the Lord, being fatted as calves in the stall (a stall in the barn). Meaning, all of the wholly-sanctified will feast on the Word of God during the forthcoming 1,000 Kingdom years. The Word is the Lord: Jesus. This all describes that the unsanctified people are removed from the Lord's sight and then the sanctified people are in the Lord's sight, with Abraham, on earth. I hope this helps. All Glory to God in this 🙏

[@lesliekendall5668]

The 7th Trumpet SAYS "for He hast (ALREADY) reigned". That gives us the timing of AFTER the 1,000 years are finished. The 7th Trumpet also SAYS "when the ungodly are judged" and that's ALSO after the 1,000 years are finished, Rev 20:13. It's when "the kingdoms of this world become those of God AND His Christ". That's the eternal New Jerusalem on the NEW earth (Rev 21:22), NOT Christ's 1,000 year reign on THIS earth.

[@carlosnoelsalinas2060]

*The Harpázō* (Natsal, Rapture) It is the day _17/18 September 2024_ Jerusalem time. May 14, 1948 ➕ 80 years (Generation of 80 years, Psalms 99:10) ➡️ May 14, 2028. This generation will not pass away (RVP1602 Mt.24:34-35). From this time we subtract 1335 days 🟰 September 17, 2024 (RVP1602 Dn.12:11). The day and the hour, does no one know? NO ONE KNEW (That is the original scripture. I quote the interlinear Bible). *LET'S GO!!! We're going!!!*

[@cesar26rj]

Setting a date for the harpazo is unbiblical. Stay away from that kind of thing.

[@lesliekendall5668]

Jesus returns AND STAYS at the 6th Seal and I can prove it through Scripture. And He's in the wilderness (specifically the Jezreel valley) with "the people of His heritage" (Micah 7:14) while the Trumpets and Bowls play out on the rest of the world UNTIL the 6th Bowl when they "make war with the Lamb and those who are with Him" AT Armageddon, Rev 17:14. And THAT'S when He gets His ANGEL army and goes from being the Good Shepherd to KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS and destroys the nations' armies, reaps the earth, and cleanses Jerusalem up to a horse's bridle and then they walk to Zion (Isa 35:8-10) for the judgment of the nations, Matt 25:31 and Rev 20:4 as to who can stay in His 1,000 year kingdom with Him. FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE. Why are you people unable to see the difference between a limited time thousand year kingdom and a kingdom that's ETERNAL? Christ's kingdom on THIS earth doesn't begin until AFTER the trib because the martyrs killed DURING the trib are there, PERIOD. Now count a thousand years from there to see when THIS earth "flees away" (Rev 20:11) and God brings the New Jerusalem on the New earth.

[@trustandglorify42]

Thank you. I will reply in greater detail this evening. Be blessed.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@@trustandglorify42 Thank you.

[@pretribtruth]

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 1Co 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Paul gives us some details associated with our rapture that will help us identify the timeline with certainty using scripture to interpret scripture. We see something called the last trumpet sound and then the dead in Christ rise. So looks like a resurrection with a trumpet blast announcing it in 1Co 15:52. The first thing that comes to mind are the 7 trumpet judgments that we see in the book of Revelation. If that 7th trumpet is the last trumpet spoken of, then we should see a resurrection associated with it. Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. Sure enough we see "the time of the dead....reward given to the prophets, saints, and all that fear His name". There is the resurrection we are looking for. Could be coincidence so let's see if we can find further connections. 1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. It is written that Death is swallowed up in victory. Isa 25:8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it. Isa 25:9 And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the LORD; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation. Here is where it is written and refers to people rejoicing in His salvation. That has to be the end when Israel returns to God which sets the timing for "death victory" as the end of the last 7 years. Still not convinced we are speaking of the same events? 1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. This is when Jesus delivers the kingdom to the Father which happens after the 7 years have ended when He puts all enemies under His feet. When is death defeated before or after the last 7 years? We can tie the wiping of tears and drinking from the fountains of waters from Isaiah 25 to Rev 7 and Rev 21. It all points to the rapture as seen in 1Co 15 occurring at the end of the last 7 years. It all ties together perfectly from a post-trib perspective. Peace, PTT

[@trustandglorify42]

At the last, 7th Trumpet, the Dead in Christ are resurrected and the the rest are raptured. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18. We are waiting for the Seals and Trumpets still.

[@pretribtruth]

@@trustandglorify42 Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. When does Jesus begin His ever lasting reign over the kingdoms of the earth? That sets the timing for us here. Peace, PTT

[@trustandglorify42]

@@pretribtruth Be blessed 🙏

[@lesliekendall5668]

When you quote 1 Cor 15:24 that says Jesus delivers His KINGDOM to the Father, it means His KINGDOM....and that doesn't begin until AFTER the trib. And Death is the last enemy destroyed, 1 Cor 15:26, and that's exactly where Rev 20 lists that event AFTER THE THOUSAND YEARS ARE FINISHED. Did you miss 1 Cor 15:36? That calls anyone A FOOL who believes they're better than Jesus and gets a glorified body without dying first? The rapture is at the end of the 1,000 years AFTER Death is cast into the fire and the wheat become like Adam again. They WON'T BE ABLE TO DIE to be made alive so God will HAVE TO "instantly change them for HIS eternal New Jerusalem. The people in 1 Thess 4:14-17 are rising up to the New Jerusalem at the end of SEVEN thousand years, NOT people who think they're better than Jesus going to heaven. And when 1 Cor 15:23 says "those who are His at His coming" it's talking about the order of resurrections. You know DEAD people and is referring to the MARTYRS of the 1st resurrection in Rev 20:4-6. Verse 24) "THEN COMES THE END" of Christ's 1,000 year reign when He delivers His KINGDOM to the Father BRINGING THE NEW JERUSALEM on the new earth.

[@trustandglorify42]

@@lesliekendall5668 Have a blessed day 🙏

[@randymodisete4743]

REVELATION CH 6 COMING IN HOT PSALMS 110 :5

[@trustandglorify42]

God is Good!

[@lesliekendall5668]

You said the 7th Trumpet is the rapture and that's correct (you just have the timing wrong) so then WHAT are you saying the 6th Seal is??? Since they CAN'T BE the same event. You have Jesus returning twice. 6th Seal= Christ's return. 7th Trumpet= when GOD brings the new earth 1,000+ years later. Same order as Rev 20 AND same order as 1 Cor 15. "For Christ must reign UNTIL God puts the final enemies of Rev 20:7-14, under Christ's feet, when the Son will also be subject to God so that GOD can be all in all", 1 Cor 15:25-28. The Son is NOT the Father. Two different kingdoms, two different earths, 1,000 years apart. And 1 Thess 4:14 says it's GOD, GOD, "GOD who brings the dead in Jesus". GOD is the subject of that passage. So when it says "the LORD will descend with a shout", it's talking about GOD's coming at the end of 7,000 years, NOT Christ's return pre-year 6,000. And they're rising up to GOD'S New earth, NOT deceived better-than-Jesus Christians going to heaven.

[@lesliekendall5668]

I'm going to go through your video and point out what's wrong. It's nothing personal so don't take it that way. The first thing is: notice how men (the writers of that book and others) always leave verse 14 out of 1 Thess 4. That verse is CRUCIAL to understanding that the passage is talking about when GOD comes to stay with men, NOT when Jesus returns. And notice God is still in heaven at the end of seven thousand years, Rev 20:9.

[@lesliekendall5668]

The beast isn't a man. He's the seed of Satan with the bruised head (Gen 3:15) who is released out of hell by Satan (Rev 17:8 and the Greek of Rev 12:17).

[@lesliekendall5668]

NO, the 2 Witnesses aren't the same timing as the beast. Here's a trivia question for you. The angel in Rev 8:13 is telling us that the last 3 Trumpets are the 3 Woes. So if Rev 11 tells us the 2 Witnesses are the 2nd Woe, then which Trumpet heralds their arrival? (And the beast's 42 months is the 5th Seal that immediately precedes Christ's return). Same order as Matt 24.

[@TheGloriousLord]

Bro use a WHITE BOARD and get a TRIPOD, your hand writing is too small making it hard to see and the camera was moving too much. Btw at which trumpet are we in right now?

[@trustandglorify42]

A white board's a great idea! I will get one. Currently, the anti-Christ has not been killed yet and so we haven't started Seal 1, let alone any of the Trumpets. This means that the rapture won't happen for at least around 3.5 more years. Once we see the anti-Christ, start counting 1263 days. The rapture's within about 2 after that.

[@SisterWendy2474]

I can read it fine😊🤷🏼‍♀️

[@trustandglorify42]

@@SisterWendy2474 Blessings to you, Sister Wendy 🙏

[@squirreljones3595]

​@@trustandglorify42 No Christians alive or Dead fit those descriptions in Revelation 20 4 The thousand year reign is promised to the saints that overcome the mark of the beast John 6 39 40 44 54 Jesus says at the last day four times That's why you can't find one Bible verse that promised the thousand year reign to the church

[@trustandglorify42]

@@squirreljones3595 Blessings. You might be interested in a recent series that a lot of people viewed and commented on. Links are below: Part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZC9pIOMntN3frs Part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jX23Z2V7lMp4ipY Part 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/laGWfpWKgrOljdE

[@hidaatalem3624]

Where’s the wedding supper or the lamb fit in

[@trustandglorify42]

The wedding supper of the Lamb happens at a time after the rapture and after tribulation is completely over with. The Word doesn't say whether it will take place on earth, during the millennial reign, or after that even, in the Heaven to come.

[@lesliekendall5668]

​@@trustandglorify42 Psalm 23 and Matt 22 both say the wedding supper is on the earth.

[@trustandglorify42]

@@lesliekendall5668 Thank you for your comment.

[@lesliekendall5668]

@@trustandglorify42 You're welcome because I understand every word of prophecy to where there are NO contradictions, and without adding, subtracting, or changing a single word.

[@trustandglorify42]

@@lesliekendall5668 God is so good and perfect!

[@peertopeertherapy3720]

Could it be that Rapturites want the world to end so badly not because they believe in anything, but it gives them an "out" for all their bad behavior?

[@trustandglorify42]

Are you meaning a pre-trib rapture believer? Bad behavior won't get one raptured. Be blessed 🙏

[@peertopeertherapy3720]

@@trustandglorify42 'Jesus is coming' (he's not), is an old cliché meme used for centuries. Mythology is interesting but you're not supposed to take it literally.

[@BIG_r.]

Jesus debunked the pretrib secret rapture 2,000 years ago, amen... John 16:33 kjv These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 15:20 kjv Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. Jesus prayer: John 17:15 kjv I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

[@trustandglorify42]

Amen brother.

[@elvelodelasombra2.064]

-Ohhhh sure??? Good joke... 'Jesus never spoke of the Rapture or Rapture of the church prior to the great tribulation'.... Typical affirmation of the Biblical and eschatological illiteracy that predominates today. Christ spoke clear as crystal clear water, just as he did with anything he manifested and this is no exception. 1- Here in the chapter of Luke 21 he has mentioned the passage that addresses both Matthew 24 and Mark 13 in reference to the signs of the times of the end. And after having explained everything, his last words regarding that time are the following: #ESCAPE #ALL #THESE #THINGS THAT WILL COME AND FROM #STANDING #FRONT OF #THE #SON OF #MAN Could you be clearer and offer more information in fewer words? 2 - To ESCAPE all those things that will come and stand BEFORE the Son of Man, you MUST leave this reality and reach the Kingdom of the Father, where He is, BEFORE all those things take place. 3- If the rapture does not occur BEFORE all those things that will come and ´happens later´ as the ignorant affirm... What are you escaping from then??? of being in the millennium?????????

[@elvelodelasombra2.064]

@@trustandglorify42 jajajajajaj If the devil stood up on a pulpit today, many who claim to be "believers" would say to him: Amen brother!!!! That is the level of "discernment" and "study" you have about the Bible and more specifically about eschatology...

[@BIG_r.]

@@elvelodelasombra2.064 wrong, the word escape is not harpazo :) The audience in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 were Jews, so if the pretrib secret rapture is true (which is not) then it will be the Jews who will be pretrib secret raptured, not the gentiles... Even apostle Paul debunked the pretrib secret rapture 2,000 ago :) he spoke these and the audience were gentiles, amen... Acts 14:22 kjv Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. Romans 5:3 kjv And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; 2 Corinthians 12:10 kjv Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong. Romans 8:36 kjv As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

[@elvelodelasombra2.064]

@@BIG_r. hahahaha the tribulations that Paul speaks of in 1 Corinthians have nothing to do with the tribulation that never existed on earth nor will there ever be that Jesus speaks of and from which he affirms that the Church will escape. And it is because of the misinterpretation that Paul has to write a second letter to the Thessalonians. And in chapter 2 that is why he differentiates the PAROUSÍA from the EPIPHANY as 2 independent and distant events in time. So don't come to me using the text that talks about the tribulations that the church has suffered throughout history to argue your false doctrine. By doing that, you actually show that you don't know what you're talking about.,...