Great Wet/Dry/Wet Sounds On A Sensible Budget - That Pedal Show

[@MarySpender]

Sounds and looks so darn good! Congrats guys!

[@ze-ce.cra_]

Mary! Can I say I love you?

[@mattgilbert7347]

"Sounds and looks so darn good" Mary, you just set yourself up for a bunch of blokey inappropriateness. But you do, hey...:p

[@hoboroadie]

All righty then, you know a fellow who sells Humdingers, when's the video coming out?

[@markedwards7721]

It makes it sound like it would on record.

[@MostlyElectrolytes]

moist/dry/moist?

[@waltersobchek2465]

ashasha3 lol

[@davidozab2753]

Wet/dry/damp

[@joesupple1]

The new digs look killer!

[@MisterAndrewBuckley]

Bastards! I left my amp out in the rain for the wet sound. My wife is also saying that I've pressed the fat button too...

[@timeubank4687]

did you leave it out in the rain with the cake?

[@NJSonye]

My first wet/dry was a solid state 1×12 Fender & a 1x12 Marshall El-34 amp. I tried a 1x12 tube amp for wet/dry/wet. There was probably phasing or latency issue coupled with too much s...tuff to carry! The wet/dry worked very well. I could patch directly into the Fender powere amp from my rack efx and it sounded great. Later moved to a 100% rack system: a Marshall JMP-1 feeding a stereo compressor (more as a spliter/mixer than compressor ) into a Boogie 20/20 stereo power amp - a great EL-84 amp to a stereo 4x12 with Digitech, Yamaha, and Lexicon effects. It was great...except too much programming!! I still remember a promoter (a guitarist too) yelling at our sound guy why he made the guitar player sound like he was in a cave. I did find some humor in that...

[@nigelpickett2471]

Next time you do this could you please, please, pretty please use a P90's loaded guitar and a humbucker loaded guitar. Just for me and anyone else.

[@alanr.johnson7222]

Right on Nigel, and a Gretsch would be nice too, any thing with Filertron or Broadtron pickups. Pretty please with sugar on top :-)

[@donbarr3868]

I want to Thank you 2 lads because your show has made me fall in love with guitars and amps and pedals again!!!! The first time I REALLY wanted to play guitar was in 1983, I heard Texas Flood on the radio for the first time and since then I have never been without a guitar in my possession. Keep up the GREAT videos and give me a shoutout! I'm Don from Texas!!!

[@Spidouz]

So... what you mean is that we don’t need £30k worth of gear now?! Just when hundreds of husbands out there finally just convinced their wife already... please, delete this video now!!! :D

[@leptyga]

Totally loving the color grading & new aesthetic overall gents!

[@TheWhollymoly]

Schwangra-La. From far earlier down the comments. Fantastic!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Love this!

[@ThatPedalShow]

I like this sooooooo much.

[@Hardjaxl]

That Pedal Heaven That Pedal Glow That Pedal Mow

[@stevenpippin6079]

You gentlemen are doing the Lord’s work.

[@williamhawkins69]

PS thanks for all your hard work I’ve learnt heaps in the last year or so since I started subscribing

[@thisguy8670]

Pedals Advocate Heavy Pedal Pedal Tones The Pedal Vessel The Effects Set Love & Effection... Lol The Effects Collective Dan and Mick "The Effects Duet" G.A.S. - Great Ass Show Ow My Wallet "That Impulse Buy" I also second "The Pedal Cave" If this happens theres a chance at another signiture pedal. The Pedal Cave Reverb! Game Of Tones Dan and Mick, First of their kind, the Reverands of Reverb, Delegates to the House of Delay, the Unphased, Defenders of Distortion, Heirs to the Almighty Overdrive, Fathers of Fuzz, Keepers of the Flange, the Cosmonauts of Echoes, the Protectors of Pedals, they are the Kings of Tone. Bend the eq or lose your mids. All hail the true Kings of Effectsteros

[@ThatPedalShow]

You sir, have a talent for the smithery of words! Glad tidings to you!

[@thisguy8670]

That Pedal Show Thanks guys! Great show as always! Love the new space!

[@davidpiedfort837]

Guys,your vocal sound is fabulous. Check out the difference between this and some old video (and I do mean old video’s). I love the compression on your vocal mics (room mics)

[@ThatPedalShow]

SSL E Channel in the UAD plugins. Mmmmmm

[@joesatchton212]

Gents: I didn't get a chance to post last week, but CONGRATULATIONS on the excellent new space! May it serve as your gear-batcave for years to come. :) However! I am sorry to say, but no TPS set can be complete without a prominent display of the original EHX Electric Mistress! Come on Dan! :D :P

[@CammojoDragon97]

Joe Satchton Gear Batcave is a cracking shout for this places name!

[@joesatchton212]

+Cameron Tyson: Why, thank you sir! :)

[@steelydan146]

How do you split the signal w/out a fancy G2 system? Use Joe Bonamassa's technique: TC Electronic SCF Stereo Chorus Flanger pedal.

[@colaboytje]

First job when starting to watch a new TPS, is pressing the like button 😊

[@hoboroadie]

Fortunately, I have been re-watching episodes that I watched as a KZbin noob and correcting the oversights.

[@levistine6733]

Thank you for everything you guys do, it’s awesome!

[@danabnormal5892]

Is it just me or does Dan’s tele look even more gorgeous with the new background?

[@mattgilbert7347]

I think it sounds "punchier" in that room as well

[@hoboroadie]

It sounds more like the record now. 👍

[@michaeljohnson7892]

Do you think plated or raw brass saddles sound better. ???

[@OneMoreGrave]

I have a routing question for guys like me who like to run their effects like octave, envelope filter, univibe, chorus, flanger, etc. in front of their boost and drive pedals. How do I run a wet dry rig with my effects mentioned above in front of my drive and my delay, reverb, and tremelo after the drive? And, the sound is definitely different in the new shed. Your voices especially. There's much less ambience. I like it.

[@KleyDeJong]

Mick - The FAT button on the Blues Junior adds a cathode bypass capacitor to the second 12AX7 gain stage. A cathode bypass capacitor will increase gain, lower output impedance, and increase harmonic content in a very pronounced way.

[@jupjuck]

Hello Kley, is the cathode bypass capacitor like a split cathode / shared cathode switch on some Marshall circuits? Or is it Marshally? Thanks :)

[@squidwardjtentacles]

Don't forget the impact of the flux capacitor driving the DMC at 88mph

[@glennlilley8608]

​@@squidwardjtentacles home child, one too many sniffs of the barmaids apron.

[@lapk78]

I wish I knew where to look to find Dan's "crazy wig-out" "Airwolf-on-acid" bit you guys spoke about at 26:40.

[@christianwheeler8386]

Every episode I start with and “ugh! Another hour video. I don’t have time to watch all this.” Feeling. Then it’s over and and I think “Wait, that was an hour? I was jus getting into this!”. So rare to get deep dive info on a topic in you tube. Thanks guys, for sticking with the format!

[@ThatPedalShow]

That’s awesome Christian, thank you!

[@Eventual420]

You can be guitar players, or you can do the setup fulltime, its hard to do both. If there are obstacles between you and music, a video camera, a series of cables, too many devices, a computer, loose decibels, air condition, lighting, the power bill, your kids... I empathize. When I fathom spaces, places I want to be, a guitar will be nearby. Sometimes you just have to focus on your core desires. I like comfortable spaces, I like my guitars to stay at 72-74°F. I like natural light. I like nice furniture and I like desktop space. Tables. This is where I find my music, where I am tranquil.

[@moelester6479]

That Pedal Studio? That Pedal Sonicallysuperiorrecordingspace?

[@phasmoid666]

Dan hits us with some Brian Adams a little past 18.00.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Run To You! We both love Bryan. And Keith Scott. :0)

Sounds MEGA! Thanks very much for all the hard work and the quality. It Looks & sounds AMAZING. Big hug from The Argentina!

[@edadpops1709]

How about that pedal show??😜

[@hoboroadie]

Barrel of laughs. More than a peck, at least.

[@RobFlaxMusic]

31:52 when the tremolo hit the AC15 only I got so happy... Tremolo is (as always) the secret sauce...

[@johnwyrosdick5817]

That Pedal Space. That Pedal Spot. That Pedal Joint. The House of Pedals. The Pedal Place. International House of Pedals. That Pedal Tank. That Pedal Chateau, home of That Pedal Show. That Pedal Chamber. That Pedal Diggs.

[@dv318]

Your show has produced among the most inspiring sounds ever recorded, not just among internet videos, but all recorded music. Period. Thank you so much for doing what you do!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Wow! High praise indeed. Thank you sir!

[@MarkSDD]

Call it the Pedal Shedal. Or the Stomp Box. Or the Guitar Hangar.

[@vaughnquinlan6722]

Mark McQuillan I like the stomp box.

[@hairychris444]

Oooh, nice. Working from home means that I can listen to TPS on studio monitors instead of crappy headphones!

[@ricardon.mejiasgonzalez2970]

Normal channel in the Vox RULES!!!

[@djbuzzkiller]

Salutations from North Carolina! I've decided that I'm never watching your show without headphones again. Great show guys!

[@MrNocaster]

HatsForRain . hey man, Rockingham, NC here. These guys are awesome right?

[@stevendobias2960]

If you can throw them up one stereo speakers even better :).

[@djbuzzkiller]

Chris They really are! They're part of my Friday morning ritual.

[@Robstafarian]

Decent speakers can be just as good, decent meaning “not in a smartphone or a laptop.”

[@tomscioscia9869]

I would love if you guys could do a comparo of different microphones and micing techniques. I see you're using Sennheiser E906s, but how do they sound compared to the E609, the SM57, etc., etc., etc.?

[@eeftrippe1859]

Every time i hear a wet and dry setup, i change my pedalboard. stop it ;)

[@waynetowers5046]

I'm in the process of thinking up a wet/dry stereo rig with different pedals in each of the two amps. I have an Orange 2x12 combo which I run into a UK made Ashdown 4x12 cab with Celestion V30s, thinking about putting a 150w Celestion Redback and a Celestion G12T-75 in the Orange, not sure yet. For my second amp, I'm waiting on Ground FX's first amp, it's based on the Sunn Spectrum, it has a pair of KT88s. I want to buy a 6x12 for it from Zilla Cabs with six Celestion G12T-75s, so, a 12x12 wet/dry stereo rig. As for effects, that's a chapter in itself, hehe.

[@gchampi2]

That's one hella rig. Think I put my back out just reading about it...

[@Adipsia1]

And there was I hoping to see a video deconstructing 'Love is All Around'... may be I'm a little too wet.

[@jasyynnoe8392]

It's worth noting that if you go 100% wet, placing reverb after delay would result in the repeats being 100% reverb, and the original note would not have reverb on it.

[@RedRose4711]

How is Dan getting on with his newly chosen 12 gauge strings? How about calling it Man's Pedal Cave (M=mick -and 'an is from Dan)? Sounds better then D-ick lol.

[@johnballantyne3458]

"Hey guys, Man here!" "Dick here, hello!"

[@notapplicable328]

I’m really looking at doing something like this but kinda reversed. My idea was to get two smaller 5 watt tube amps to be my “dry” sound and pair it with a Roland jc-44 with some chorus and reverb to be my “wet” sound. I just have no idea how to accomplish this technically without blowing up my vintage 5 watt tube amps. Hopefully someone could maybe give me some pointers to get this rig put together

[@oldbeer4662]

You F'in' Guys!!! After the last show I HAD to build this rig. Turns out I recently acquired the tools to do so. With an ABY switch and a strymon flint, i set up 2 little practice amps with my bassman. Instant guitar nirvana. Of course I've set this all up while the missus is out of town, now seeing if she can extend her trip. HA! This channel is like a dream factory for guitar players, great ideas rolling out week after week. Please never stop.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Cheers OB - glad you’re finding some inspiration in here. Thanks for watching!

[@TheBigGuppy]

Its a practical matter. I ran a wet dry rig in the 80. I always used identical amps. Primary reason was the redundancy. If I ever had an amp failure then I had a built-in spare amp and could finish the gig. Stereo textures were great .... but mono had more balls. But for what it is worth when I had the deal with Peavey I NEVER had a failure with those Bandit 65s.

[@oldmanzen6682]

It's so nice watching musicians who are emotionally moved by the sound. Not everyone has that. Great work, as usual.

[@latergarside-244]

whats the deal with the orange tape on the glasses. Easter egg?

[@LEgoiste]

The Pedalladium! Great show again guys, it’s good to see you’re enjoying it.

[@brucer261]

Just my opinion ... I see where the wet/dry idea is coming from but I don't believe you cant have a wet/dry. If its dry ... the moment you add anything its now wet.. Great video guys!!

[@devingallucci4829]

That pedal palace?

[@stevenziegler1067]

For the win!

[@adrianjewell5995]

Was going to suggest that my self, great name!

[@hoboroadie]

That Pedal Palace at Schwangri-La.

[@Morgan-nr4oh]

Another option to recreate the £30k rig: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYqtinaMgcplntk But not sure Mick and Dan would approve!

[@ericcarpenter3263]

Hate to comment again, this has nothing to do with guitar, but the lighting and focus is so amazing. There are side shots and they seem so personal. Second time through and the camera work is just crazy good. Cheers guys!!

[@JayRutherford1]

Has anyone tried a dual amp setup with a tube amp and a fender tonemaster? Wondering what a lonestar special and a tone master super reverb would sound like together, and if the AD/DA latency of the tonemaster would cause phasing like the boys reference in this video

[@Rafael-ho1sg]

DAN YOU'RE THE MAN!

[@jeanenviedapprendre]

If you want to get too extreme about a "dry" sound, you'd have to remove the guitar signal, because it's dry. Let's not be ridiculous and miss the point. If I separate my effects into multiple signal paths, I'm going to call one "dry" no matter what, because it needs a name.

[@johnlittle1230]

Pedal Cave. Surely. The Batman and Robin fighting bad tone KAPOW💥

[@guitarhack947]

Stomp(box) Studio!!! Needs a little more "fill" light on Mick's face. his RHS is still a little dark.

[@phyfts]

21:38 oh damn that was my goal. I guess you can't mix torpedo and mic :(

[@RedRemedyXTC101b]

That Pedal Lair. ....says Greg Koch :) You gotta get him on the show!! That would be hilarious. Sounding good btw boys, Cheers from Sydney AU.

[@joshscus]

When you guys were talking about guys like Larry Carlton putting the 100% wet through studio monitors, I wanted to mention that on tour last year, John Mayer had an additional mic in front of one of the amps, which was fed into a rack mic preamp, then into the wet effects (or maybe only his Bricasti M7 reverbs), and then that 100% wet signal coming out of a pair of ridiculously expensive studio monitors, which were not mic'ed to the PA. So I'm guessing the studio monitors were just for the stage sound for reverb? I really wonder what that would sound like in person, ie not coming out of the FOH. Hmm. I'm sensing another W/D/W video using studio monitors!

[@TheWhollymoly]

Hey Josh! Thanks for the info! I saw that tour, too, but must have been a bit further back in the house than you. I thought those looked like monitors and not speaker cabs, but I was too far away to figure out what they were doing exactly. I'm wondering if you also noticed a very slow phase-type thing that was oscillating back-and-forth across the stereo field on some of his lead tones? Some, not all. Especially the opening obligato solo at the beginning of "Belief" to open the show. The closest I've been able to come to duplicating it is a very slow roto-vibe sound from my Strymon Mobius. Cheers!

[@KKMcK1]

What if you want all the modulation to be true stereo bouncing between the two wet amps? I don't see that the G2 has the outputs for a true stereo wet/dry/wet system. Maybe in the G3? I mean the mapping needs to be encyclopedic . . .

[@evansgoff476]

That tone in the into. Damn! I could spend hours and hours on that rig. I vote you keep it as that Pedal Show. But, you've definitely inspired me to build a rig like this.

[@awfriant]

Well clearly you should call it That Pedal Shack, if only so you can say, “Let’s go have a schwang at the Shack.”

[@davidtomkins4242]

That look mick gave dan when he started playing bryan adams....18:00

[@57too]

Was this suggested? - 'That Pedal Show 2.0' (rhymes!...not LeeAnn)

[@whiskersb5296]

I'm not able to watch now, but seeing an episode with gear I actually own is always especially exciting.

[@amheck]

so the "splitter" in the diagram is just a ABY box? And then do the wet/stereo effects go straight into the L/R amps input or into their effect loops?

[@TheGoldenTuba]

The new place looks AWESOME!!

[@tjnugent62]

I thought Dan was adding the diagram to make all the connections on paper before you jump in..

[@mrrodin2]

Boss katana 50 is great for w/d/w setups on a budget, as a wet combo. 50 watts, 12 inch speaker and a bunch of cool fx included

[@ThatPedalShow]

+1 on that. Mick here.

[@adam872]

Definitely. It's like taking a JC-40/120 and sticking a bunch of pedals in front of it, but in a simple form factor and at a very reasonable price.

[@DeadlySpecies]

I have a katana 100, I am thinking of getting a vox ac15 to have it as the main dry amp and use the katana with the effects

[@asianviewer1]

Cheapest way I’ve found of doing it is to have a great tube amp as you dry, and two Roland Cubes as your wets. The benefit of this set up is you can buy Cubes in different wattages to suit your requirements, they have a great clean sound, plus you don’t have to re-tube them as buying tubes for three amps becomes an expensive proposition.

[@edbauer8790]

Andre Rodin I even heard Dave Friedman from Friedman amps suggest maybe using a small katana amp as “wet” amp in a simple wet dry setup ...mainly because you don’t need a ton of power for the wet effect only amp and solid state is fine.

[@KozmykJ]

Mega experience when “connecting” inspirationally with the sound. The buzz when the whole band are getting theirs too with you... multiply that by a factor of (zen)^2 It's like telepathy … maybe it is telepathy... It's something else for sure. I've had that less times than I've got fingers but it's one of the finest musical things I've lived for... Coming back to earth for a moment - Poor man's way to get a split signal. Many tuner pedals, not all, have two outputs, one straight through, the other switched with the tuning function. I've used that for branch switching.

[@WhatsUpWhitey]

YES!!! It’s Friday with TPS!!!!!!

[@timothylenaghan4892]

Call it Schwangri la! Seriously though guys some tremendous sounds here and so inspirational. I've been toying with the wet/dry thing for a couple months now with a Deluxe Reverb and DSL40 and I think you've inspired me to dust off my Blues Junior and throw it into the mix as well. Also, the Boonar's been my favorite pedal for the lest six months or so, there are some really great sounds there and it seems endlessly tweakable.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Oh oh oh oh oh oh. We may have a winner. Cheers! Bet those three amps sound spectacular together! :0)

[@carlekman]

The new place should be called ”The Headroom”

[@RandomTuber782]

Check out the end of The Henning video on The Rocker 32. He runs a 32 and a 15 together in a wet dry wet. Only costs about $1,700.

[@mikeheugel4461]

After the last show, I set up wet/dry/wet with two Blackstar HT40’s outside, and an HT20 inside (all clean channel). Signal path was guitar -> Midi Deja Vibe -> Keeley Tone Workstation -> D&M Drive -> Angry Charlie -> Mini-Vent II, split -> “dry” into the HT20, “wet” into a TC X4 Delay, stereo out into -> TC Hall of Fame, stereo out to the 2 HT-40’s. Man what a sound! With the HT40’s set to the Blackface-style clean and the HT20 set clean, but on the edge of breakup. No phase issues at all that I could discern. It was absolutely the most unproductive band rehearsal we’ve ever had - I was too busy listening to my own awesomeness to worry about playing the songs correctly, haha! Cheers guys, great topic as always!

[@yoctanuri]

Mike Heugel hello. Can I ask what kind of a splitter you got? What if you only use 2 amps (wet/dry), do you have any problems with phasing with the splitter you use? Thanks.

[@mikeheugel4461]

yoctanuri Hello, I don’t have a splitter - I’m actually splitting the signal with 2 different stereo-out pedals. The fact that I don’t have phase issues is actually a miracle. First split is from the Mini Vent II, left output goes to the dry amp in the middle, right output goes into a TC X4 delay. Second split is out of the X4, which gets split into a stereo out, through the Hall of Fame (stereo in-stereo out), then out to wet amp left and wet amp right. I’ve got rehearsal tomorrow, so I’ll get a picture to show the setup.

[@gyugug]

Congrats on the new place - how about “The Pedal Farm” (considering the neighborhood 🤣). Mooer!!! Also, I have a request - a show focusing on the JC120? It takes pedals so well, plus you could have lots of fun with the stereo fx loop (good way to explain send/returns & parallel and series fx loops) and the inbuilt chorus - mike up both speakers, pan L&R and you’re away!! I think Dan mentioned before that he used one for a while, and yeah, they aren’t easy with drives, but I see it as a challenge!!! Keep up the great work guys 😁👍👍

[@banjoboys]

The Pedal Files

[@ThatPedalShow]

Oooof.

[@tomfoolery2082]

banjoboys Noooo

[@davedavem]

Apparently if you do wet/wet/wet you really feel it in your fingers... 😆 sorry.

[@macleanclassics]

The pedal den.... the pedal lair...... the pedal sanctuary...... the hall of tone....

[@DrivingDunkShot]

Great minds think a like. We both suggested That pedal Den only 10 seconds apart.

[@macleanclassics]

Too funny

[@stevenziegler1067]

Hall of Tone is nice

[@63caster]

macleanclassics t the hall of tone is pretty good...

[@WellOfDark]

I'd flip it for Tone Hall

[@ludlow555]

Dig the AC15, but not a fan of the other two amps. I will say that the overall effect is glorious. In the age of tap-tempo, do you guys prefer to use fixed delay settings to kinda Monet-over your sound?

[@MattArmon]

One moron must have accidentally hit the dislike button.

[@ThatPedalShow]

We have one, usually in the first 10 mins. I get concerned when they’re late! Mick. :0)

[@MattArmon]

Haha they must be jealous. Amazing sounds today, as always!

[@Frankie_Holt]

Can’t please some people

[@notjoeaverage]

I came up with a list of mostly structures or places starting with S that might work Sacristy - a room in which sacred vessels are kept Salon Saloon Sanctuary Sanctum - a sacred place Sanitarium Scene Schloss School Seminary Sequel Shelter Showroom Shrine Silo Smithy Spa Stable Stadium Stage Station Studio Study Suite Summit Symphony

[@Mountain_Mutt]

That Pedal Bordello!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Now I like that A LOT. Mick here. :0)

[@mattd8704]

Have you guys looked at the Orange Rocker 32? 2 12 combo with 2 power amps and 2 effects loops, so essentially stereo in 1 box. Would be interesting for you to do

[@dadbod6039]

The Temple Of Tone

[@leehowe5937]

Man Nick that strat sounds good and im a tele guy. Dan sounds awesome i am using a DR Z cure and a deluxe for a wet dry rig.

[@yeahrightbear8883]

My problem with running multiple amps is that I get twice as much hum.

[@coquio]

You need phase reversal in your outputs.

[@basvredeling]

Phase reversal solves phase issues with multiple speakers, not hum problems. Phase reversal can theoretically not only cancel your hum, but also your regular guitar signal. So you really need signal isolators to stop ground loops. Like the gigrig humdinger, or more affordably: a behringer hum destroyer. Or just embrace hum as a fact of life.

[@coquio]

That's what I meant! lol

[@DavidMorisset]

Joseph Smith Ground lift with a Tele in the middle position or a humbucker and there is no hum

[@Javier-qk7ms]

You may be having ground loops. Try something like EB Tech Hum Eliminator or Hum X.

[@BrotherHoodMovies331]

You should redo the last Wet/Dry/Wet in the new space, since you can turn things up a bit more here. (Definitely not me trying to hear that immense tone a second time.)

[@benbutterworth7584]

I think this show is great, but sometimes with TPS I get a little weary of the supposed problems/issues with digital (talk of latency). Much to the detriment of my bank balance, I own loads of gear, analogue and digital. I use a G2 with fancy pedals, I also use a Strymon Timeline and BlueSky (digital), I use an Ox (sounds amazing) and record into Logic. I've owned fully digital pedals in the past and not found any problems. My Line 6 M5 is great! In isolation analogue might sound a little better, but it's very marginal with the good stuff. To the extent I'm thinking about a nice small HX Effects - easy routing and good sounds. It's much more to do with the quality of the product and its use in context (as opposed to being used in isolation) than the principles of what seems to be prevalent here: analogue good, digital bad. I work in film and TV. I work with great technicians and musicians, we use digital all the time. Purists and romantics want to work on film, but for a lot of uses it's not better - lenses, cameras, lighting etc have a big impact. We add film grain to things and even tell you it's shot on film and you would be none the wiser. I work on film and I love it. But I also work on digital and love it. Pixar is all digital, is plasticine animation shot on film better? No. Like a good script and performance, the song and the playing is the most important thing that will resonate with you and your audience. Talk of digital latency vs analogue reminds me a bit too much of a trainset builder in his loft tinkering, when nobody even notices. Now, back to my Flying Scotsman...

[@hulkslayer626]

benbutterworth you've set up multiple SS and Tube amps together and had no issues? Which ones did you use? Is there a video I could watch please?

[@benbutterworth7584]

Hulk Slayer nope, I’ve never done that, although I am using a Mark V and Amp 1 without issue (I don’t think the Amp 1 is digital, maybe elements are?). My comment was more about the general sniffiness around digital on TPS. I’ve used digital in various setups. I’ve never encountered latency with my Ox or torpedo live (which I had), I have picked up, and I’m sure others have too, what I think is a bit of a manufactured blanket bias against digital. I agree that valve amps sound better generally, but with effects and certainly recording devices and interfaces I think it’s much more of a mixed picture. I always have issues with my setup (flexibility comes at a price it seems) ground noise with amps etc and had to call the GigRig to sort out the routing. They were really helpful, but it is complicated and so I am considering an alternative rig with just an HX effects and nothing else on the floor. By and large I have found valve amps to my taste, but even then my views are changing. Kempers are very impressive (no latency) and I think class D amps are changing the game. Look at the Blug Amp 1 and the Milkman floor pedal. Talk to the GigRig guys about your setup, I know some of them are using kempers.

[@benbutterworth7584]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6rZdY16jqt5h7s Josh at JHS puts it well.

[@hulkslayer626]

benbutterworth oh... well I think he was talking specifically running 3 amps as wet/dry/wet. That since SS and Tube amps work in different ways, that there might be a very slight perceived miss match in timing in that format. Which bummed me out cause I wanted to try it with my tube/hybrid/SS amps... but then I saw your post and got excited cause I thought you had done it before with no issues... let me know if you do it and post a video please

[@benbutterworth7584]

Hulk Slayer you’re right, but it just reminded me of a general disdain for most things digital on here. What about the Blackstar amps that are SS or a blues cube? Or a JC? Are they any good for you? Of course SS isn’t necessarily digital.

[@williamhawkins69]

After being a bit alarmed by this vid I realised I have all I need for wet/dry/wet. Since the beginning of the year I have been using my Vox AC4-12 for dry and a Yamaha THR100HD with 1X12 inch wet. (Solid state, very clean, lots of head room). But I also have 2X12 Cab and the THR has 2separate channels. I have a couple of modulation pedals that will output in stereo. I can’t separate the wets physically but it will do. If I want something with more oomph than the AC4 then I have a Boogie TA30that I can substitute . I haven’t checked for any latency issues yet.

[@mss11235]

If you have latency issues, a simple phase flipping pedal going into ONE amp would fix it. There exists a buffer or two for like 70 bucks that will simply do that as a dedicated fix. Perhaps a transparent cheap boost pedal could do it as well for cheaper though it could color the tone

[@Levi-sj4tz]

That Pedal Sty

[@mccalltrader]

Dudes, I just realized, I’m not subscribed...I’m a regular watcher..so my bad fellas..now sub’d, love the new studio!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you!

[@coquio]

I'm a simple person; when I see a new TPS video, I drop everything I'm doing and watch.

[@loupgarou738]

Alfalfa Male Only slightly more sophisticated I open a beer can in between dropping everything and watching TPS

[@determinedscholar]

If the red pedal in the first diagram shown, flips the phase of the signal, doesn’t that ruin the phase relationship between the three amps? How do you combat this, especially when you have multiple “red pedals” ? Thanks in advance.

[@ThatPedalShow]

It can make a difference. It’s usually less perceivable in a physical space, especially when you’re talking about stuff like modulates and tremoloes. Much more apparent when you record those signals. I don’t understand it - Mick here. Phase is so weird, and very rarely 100 per cent right or wrong!

[@z.s4371]

When's Pete gonna be on?

[@ThatPedalShow]

Sooooooon. :0)

[@SCOREWIZARDSMUSIC]

I am getting used to the dryer sound of the new room...its very clean and exposed...more accurate sounding...less natural sounding but very precise

[@lespaul457]

New name ; “That Ampy-theatre” ... (as in the Greek word amphitheatre)

[@bniwa]

Not a secret, but for those of us who have to play or record direct with headphones (who still have neighbors), you can sort of emulate this by record enabling 3 audio tracks, keeping the first clean and centered, and adding your effects of choice to your other 2 tracks panned to your liking...Huge!. The effect is almost as amazing. Almost.