“Closely resembles Kingdom Hearts” This is literally what it is
@jorgemathiasbenitezsaldiva81314 жыл бұрын
What really resembles, at least the start, is the theme somnus of ffvsxiii
@Loansome_4 жыл бұрын
I think they mean the album of Yoko Shimomura's Drammatica. It has Kingdom Hearts songs, along with Final Fantasy and others.
@jorgemathiasbenitezsaldiva81314 жыл бұрын
@Oli Ver thanks for the explanation, but it was just my idea
@FeatherWings782 жыл бұрын
It's basically Organization XIII
@DemonOfLore12 жыл бұрын
"Closely resembles many songs from the Kingdom Hearts Series." That's because it IS from the Kingdom Hearts' series.
@meh970511 жыл бұрын
0:00-1:05: Orginization 13 Main Theme 1:06-2:15: The 13th Struggle 2:16-2:52: The 13th Reflection 2:53-3:15: Graceful Asassin 3:16-4:05: The 13th Dilemma 4:06-6:09 Lord of the Castle 6:09-6:42 Orginization 13 Main Theme
@Alkadondon7 жыл бұрын
Originization ? like an orgy ?
@quincyjames17826 жыл бұрын
Rage awakened is in here too
@finalfantasyfordays1275 жыл бұрын
You forgot xions theme
@axinhedgelion84175 жыл бұрын
finalfantasyfordays another side another story is in here too
@luciferthemasterblade7394 жыл бұрын
Quincy James where
@crimsonfenrir23347 жыл бұрын
5:37 THAT LORD OF THE CASTLE EPIC REMIX OMG *ultimate eargasm + epic goosebump*
@TurtleTime268 жыл бұрын
0:00 to 1:02 --- Two opposing forces stand facing each other; one of light and one of darkness. The force of light offers an ultimatum: Surrender or face the consequences. The force of darkness simply draws his weapon, and the force of light draws his in turn, accepting this fate. 1:03 to 2:15 --- The pair begin their battle with a series of fast, yet powerful combos. The force of light is struck in the back, while the force of darkness is struck in the face a couple of times. All the while the force of darkness is enjoying this conflict. The force of light growls. 2:16 to 2:51 --- The battle style switches to primarily magic. The two conflict with spells from afar. Neither is struck, but their spells clash in bright flashes of color and heat. The force of darkness struggles to keep up with the light's powerful variety. 2:52 to 3:15 --- The magic is abandoned in favor of the more traditional fencing style. Their swords clash beautifully, yet neither is struck. The force of light is relieved for the short break from such draining techniques. 3:17 to 4:04 --- The duel becomes a struggle of brute force when the force of darkness tries to push their opponent off the edge of a cliff. The force of light holds them back for a while, but knows he cannot win this way, and ducks out as soon as he can. 4:05 to 5:14 --- Now knowing what the other's weaknesses are, the force of darkness begins using primarily brute force, while the force of light uses primarily magic. Both take mild scratches, bruises, and burns. 5:15 to 5:37 --- The force of light takes a critical hit to his leg and seems to be down for a moment, but with some effort stands back up and gets into a pose to continue fighting. The force of darkness smirks, thinking he has this battle in the bag. 5:38 to 6:09 --- A surge of adrenaline goes through the force of light, and he goes back against the force of darkness with strength like he's never had. He ends up knocking the force of darkness off the cliff with a blow that shatters the earth below. 6:10 to end --- The force of light goes down the cliff to observe as his opponent dies. "It didn't have to be this way, you know." "Yeah, I know." "We could have been friends. Partners." The force of darkness coughs up some blood and spits into the force of light's face. "Go to hell." The force of light sighs. "Will do."
@Konpekikaminari8 жыл бұрын
you really saw all this inside your head didn't you?
@TurtleTime268 жыл бұрын
Itai Sprachman Ye.
@Konpekikaminari8 жыл бұрын
***** I applaud you This is rather magnificent
@chrisfondakowski41048 жыл бұрын
really......
@kuroneko54638 жыл бұрын
1000/10 (≧∇≦)/
@sebastianadellQ2 жыл бұрын
Im here after the fatui harbingers reveal because they remember me this badass group the organization 13 was 👌
@jakedge312 жыл бұрын
the picture just screams "lol sephiroth wuz here!"
@yeetmaster-eb1xq6 жыл бұрын
just looking at a planet get destroyed and the meteor reading in comic sans "LOL SEPHIROTH WUZ HERE XD
@SidneyMosley3 жыл бұрын
What makes me sad is that this is the closest that I'll ever have to having the 13th Reflection as an orchestral piece...
@herculejoestar58092 жыл бұрын
Project destati
@BeansBroBeans10 жыл бұрын
Look up the 13th Clash by Everglow8444. It's got this music with actual battles from the game :)
@IMMACYCLOPS10 жыл бұрын
That's actually what led me to find this video :)
@CaptainCJ979 жыл бұрын
IMMACYCLOPS same
@IMMACYCLOPS9 жыл бұрын
CJAdams97 Everglow did very well with editing the video, especially the suspense when Sora used Ars Arcanum to finish off Roxas :)
@CaptainCJ979 жыл бұрын
IMMACYCLOPS yup
@IMMACYCLOPS9 жыл бұрын
Did you see the English walkthrough of 2.5 by Everglow? There's a funny moment in the Xigbar boss battle when Sora becomes Anti-Sora.
@VOIDGEAR011 жыл бұрын
I'm so attached to Graceful Assassin...
@hwanniggles18710 жыл бұрын
That part is actually called Lord of the Castle
@VOIDGEAR010 жыл бұрын
True, But speaking in general.
@QuintusKing9 жыл бұрын
John Rogers There is actually Graceful Assassin at 2:52.
@davionthornton63219 жыл бұрын
Need to call it 14th anthology and add vector to heavens. In my opinion anyway
@CaptainCJ979 жыл бұрын
hell yea
@davionthornton63219 жыл бұрын
CJAdams97 lol here i see you again XD
@CaptainCJ979 жыл бұрын
+The Anime Connoisseur yup haha
@herofromthedark8 жыл бұрын
that would be a fantastic idea!
@CaptainCJ978 жыл бұрын
herofromthedark fuck yea
@hawx89027 жыл бұрын
Those horns at 5:54 are amazing!
@epicSockett12 жыл бұрын
She mixed everything together, it's bits of KH2 battle music.
@TanteiGH4 жыл бұрын
Yoko Shimomura NEVER fails to impress
@janandrewdonato548211 жыл бұрын
Hearing this song and seeing this image, its as if there is a battle on the asteroid. Awesome.
@IMMACYCLOPS10 жыл бұрын
That's such a cool idea for a battle sequence :) On an asteroid flying toward Earth... The idea sounds so epic :D
@NovumZero11 жыл бұрын
This hypes me up for Yokos work on FF XV, its going to be masterful...
@xAgnyHDwithered2 жыл бұрын
aged really bad uh
@ROSPoetry12 жыл бұрын
@@xAgnyHDwithered aged liked spoiled milk 😂
@Vayne_Solidor2 жыл бұрын
@@xAgnyHDwithered No lmao, FFxv ost is amazing
@Vayne_Solidor2 жыл бұрын
Apocalypsis Noctis, Somnus, Invidia, Omnis Lacrima and many other battle themes, Magna Insomnia, Wanderlust, Luna, Valse di Fatastica etc etc, I could name 20 more, are all so great tracks.
@JuvAmp9512 жыл бұрын
0:00 - 1:05 = Another Side 1:06 - 2:10 = The 13th Struggle (Axel and Luxord battle theme) 2:11 - 2:51 = The 13th Reflection (Absent Silhouettes) 2:52 - 3:15 = Graceful Assassin (One of Marluxia themes) 3:16 - 3:48 = The 13th Dilemma (Demyx,Xaldin,Xigbar and Saix battle theme) 3:49 - 4:05 = Showdown at Hollow Bastion 4:06 - 6:09 = Lord of the Castle (Marluxia final form battle theme) 6:10 - 6:42 = Another Side All this tracks are from KH Chain of Memories and KH2 Hope it helps ;)
@Taios87entertainment12 жыл бұрын
.......i'm- .....just at awe of this song
@WanderSeth12 жыл бұрын
Teenagers spraypaint brick walls. Sephiroth blows up your planet with a meteor. Sephiroth > Teenagers by that logic.
@blank-ages2 жыл бұрын
This made doing my laundry feel like a final boss battle.
@luxuriouslobster368110 жыл бұрын
Tip: Open this video in 2 tabs and play the second one on half the volume as the first one reached 9-10 seconds. Enjoy. ;)
@octosquidy475910 жыл бұрын
holy shit o.o how did you even find this? XD
@luxuriouslobster368110 жыл бұрын
It's a trick I picked up that works on some songs like this ;)
@Mr.Zeem5710 жыл бұрын
very good tip thank X-D
@CaptainCJ979 жыл бұрын
not bad
@sora59319 жыл бұрын
Gorgutz Ead'Unter also you can start this song at 8 seconds at 25ish% and fate of the unkown at zero and at 50ish% and it sounds awesome
@cecilhuntington81278 жыл бұрын
Well, whatever it is it is pure, Amazing, I shared my side of playing video games in my life time, and who is to say we can't take a cool part of the music, and share the vision with some pictures as slide show, also, to all the guys who make this music, even if the pictures are not changing or moving, I am getting my edge to write my story with this music, the nice peaceful music can start off with a peaceful town for the person to be and raised in, when there is intense or battle music, it gives me a notion to write down the battle theme in my story, keep going on the music posting, you guys rock, and i mean it!!!
@DarknessIsTheTruth12 жыл бұрын
Several. It's composed of: Another Side, Another Story The 13th Struggle, The 13th Reflection, Graceful Assassin, The 13th Dilemma, and Lord of the Castle.
@13CrimsonFox11 жыл бұрын
Kingdom Hearts series, one of those games with really beautiful musics...
@vexsten61718 жыл бұрын
this gives a super smash bros vibe at the beginning when things start picking up at 1:03
@TheZeroPhoenix12 жыл бұрын
One of the best remixes I've ever heard, GREAT JOB! You really did an awesome job ^.^
@jaykisuke33978 жыл бұрын
The heart is no different.
@jocelynhealy69989 жыл бұрын
This song also has a strange Pokemon feel to it. Like I can imagine this playing when you battle the champ.
@vanillatheberryrdp53478 жыл бұрын
champion Xemnas
@MeHesHovMe8 жыл бұрын
Mansex
@TurtleTime268 жыл бұрын
Champion Xehanort
@Konpekikaminari8 жыл бұрын
I can hear so many KH tracks in there I can feel a tinge of adrenaline listening to this
@Xammed12 жыл бұрын
nice job this is so epic and has bits of all my favorite tracks
@SagittariusAyy12 жыл бұрын
Congrats, you have won my personal "Most Oddly-chosen Thumbnail" award! Have a metaphysical cookie.
@quackblade811 жыл бұрын
To people complaining about the KH3 on Xbone thing, it's just not that important. Now more people get to play, so that's cool. And regarding Wii U, if it was on Wii U, the graphics would be held back on account of Wii U's limitations. It's no biggie, man
@ShiroNoOokami12 жыл бұрын
It's actually an arrangement/mashup of the numerous "The 13th (something)" songs used for Organization XIII fights, with Another Side mixed in for good measure at the beginning and end. They were introduced in KH:CoM and KH:II.
@AmateurTraceur112 жыл бұрын
Final Battle. This SCREAMS final battle. 7 lights, 13 darkness.... I cant Wait!!!!
@elementalcolors497710 жыл бұрын
They don't just resemble organization xiii osts, they are those themes!
@enhab74579 жыл бұрын
Jim X kinda.
@14megasxlr9 жыл бұрын
+Jim X Same composer. so yeah.
@temmiexgamesmonsterhunter85085 жыл бұрын
Greatest battle music? I'll be the judge of that. Me lieaning: ohhhhhh myyyyyyy goddddddd
@thanoxyn111 жыл бұрын
Isn't it called Kingdom Hearts 3: The Keyblade Wars ? Although from what I know it's another console exclusive because disney thinks you have the cash to buy every system on the market to play one KH game on each.
@castlevania89812 жыл бұрын
It's a medley of many songs associated with Organization XIII in KH2 and KH Re: Chain of Memories.
@evileagal32414 жыл бұрын
Me who hasn't played kingdom hearts 2 in years: hears this song Me: ah sh!t... Here we go again :)
@steventhedoglover10 жыл бұрын
Why did a week ago same time all i start humming this in my sleep... Yes sometimes i record what i say in my sleep... Its hilarious
@davionthornton632110 жыл бұрын
O_O....bro......I'M TRYING THAT!
@steventhedoglover10 жыл бұрын
do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@asoingbobgaming546510 жыл бұрын
Wait a ds can do that
@steventhedoglover10 жыл бұрын
I KNOW!!!!!
@shook1989 жыл бұрын
I usually hum tunes as well, but when I'm _just_ waking up from sleep. It's really weird when I catch myself doing that.
@isaacbronythetroller946512 жыл бұрын
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@TheTwilightmaster611 жыл бұрын
Well, part of it is that Kingdom Hearts has never been on a microsoft system before now. The other part is: fans of the Kingdom Hearts Saga don't want the series to be on the Xbone.
@Kabaru_onii_chan10 жыл бұрын
sounds like a kingdom heart type of music. i like :D
@snowsomnus253410 жыл бұрын
That's because it is Kingdom Hearts music.
@limmmmmmmmmmmm12 жыл бұрын
Download link now I MUST be able to listen to this on my Ipod. i LOVE the kingdom hearts series, so this is a must have for me.
@ExcorcistBagel11 жыл бұрын
But... wouldn't the plot of KH end with KHIII? Xehanort did say that the War would start again and everyone would be brought back.
@Higth11512 жыл бұрын
Assuming that people here know the KH music pretty well. . . I wish they did somthing like this for Destati, fragments of Sorrow and all those sons that are connected if you get me
@stinkmeaner1911 жыл бұрын
I need a Kingdom hearts game that puts us in the shoes of one of the keyblade warriors who fought in the keyblade war
@johnsoismybro12 жыл бұрын
That Music was SOOOO Awesome
@TheBanishedWind12 жыл бұрын
0:00 - 1:05 could be from "Organization XIII" since both it and "Another Side" begin with those same measures and it didn't go into the intense part of "Another Side" so it could be either or, unless Shimomura-sensei confirmed that bit WAS from "Another Side"
@TheFinalDirtBlock11 жыл бұрын
The Keyblade Wars was what happened before Birth By Sleep again, we've never played it, but they're making a small computer game called "Kingdom Hearts X" so you can understand how the Keyblade Wars happened.
@ffviiirocks12 жыл бұрын
The picture and picture makes me think of all of the Organization XIII members dropping down from the sky.
@Fedoraman37012 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! This is amazing!!! I could see this piece in a movie, its soo good!!!!!!!!!!!!
@RCfan23412 жыл бұрын
you know i think this can be a really good theme in kingdom hearts or any game almost honestly it sounds really good
@ShadowEclipse006668 жыл бұрын
and to end this debate light or darkness is stringer than the other light is afriad to accept the darkness that exists even in the hearts of the most powerful of light keyblade masters like terra but he gave in to his rage only roxas understod with soras memories of riku powering oblivion and soras memories of kiari powering ouththkeeper roxas is truly the master of in betwween not xemnas
@TheNomad9412 жыл бұрын
Let's see: -Organization XIII Theme -The 13th Struggle -Graceful Assassin/Another Side (they share the same part) -The 13th Reflection -The 13th Dilemma -Lord of the Castle and some pieces of Darkness of the Unknown In this order. Look it up.
@Grandpa_728 жыл бұрын
The beginning felt like "trois gymnopedies"
@Terminator173211 жыл бұрын
Wen ich den Anfang der Melodie höre Fang ich an zu weinen weil die Herzlosen so traurig finde und weil ich schon emo ( Emotional) bin
@TruthSeeker041312 жыл бұрын
This start of this reminds me of the music from band of brothers - BBC Series awesome!
@lucascorneloup559410 жыл бұрын
5 : 38 to 6 : 05, waow ...
@hawx89027 жыл бұрын
Lucas Corneloup it's so epic.
@Senseilimb12 жыл бұрын
The first little peaceful bit is in KH2 i believe. And the rest of it, the battle part, is just the 13th struggle from chain of memories and KH2 being played with different instruments.
@cccaymol12 жыл бұрын
0:00 to 1:04 Another Side, Another Story 1:05 to 2:14 The 13th Struggle 2:15 to 2:51 The 13th Reflection 2:52 to 3:14 Graceful Assassin 3:15 to 3:48 The 13th Dilemma 3:49 to 4:04 Showdown at Hollow Bastion 4:05 to 6:08 Lord of the Castle 6:09 to 6:42 Another Side, Another Story
@DreamerFromTheDepths3 жыл бұрын
KH music if it was in FFXV, I know they were both orchestrated by Yoko for the most part, but you know what I mean right? It has those FFXV vibes.
@LinkMaster55558 жыл бұрын
epic beyond words
@Arexion529312 жыл бұрын
Actually that Graceful Assassin part is same part that plays in Another Side, with slight alteration. And the Showdown at Hollow Bastion part is part of 13th Dilemma.
@Someone764112 жыл бұрын
All of them. I think from many boss battle songs.I can recognize 3:17 and the battle with Xaldin.
@enhab74579 жыл бұрын
***** how amazed were you at this orchestrated version of Lord of the Castle?
@FlattyMchesterson7 жыл бұрын
Bryan enhsb he used it in one of his most popular vid. I can imagine that he love this piece.
@treddox58806 жыл бұрын
I know I'm 3 years late, but Everglow recently said in a Reddit AMA that Lord of the Castle is tied with Dismiss as his favorite KH track ever. Just FYI.
@terralink11513 жыл бұрын
0:01 - 1:06 Organization 13 1:07 - 2:10 13th Struggle 2:11 - 3:15 13th Reflection 3:16 - 4:05 13th Dilemma 4:06 - 6:10 Lord of the Castle 6:11 - 6:42 I WANT M0:00RE!!!
@JmLyan12 жыл бұрын
The 13th Struggle is also the battle theme for all organization members in chain of memories except Marluxia.
@tyleryounes141811 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to pick up a Keyblade and start a new Keyblade War
@Roxas93512 жыл бұрын
thats why in 012 they have DLC's of cloud, sephiroths, and squalls clothes from kingdom hearts
@federicoalongi194610 жыл бұрын
I hope someone makes a Kingdom Hearts Anime / KH2 Anime * - *
@federicoalongi194610 жыл бұрын
A mini-series
@mattjoe9810 жыл бұрын
No, that would just ruin the series. I believe that not all Japanese franchises deserves an anime.
@samuelevans453110 жыл бұрын
There is Manga for it
@HughMungusWang10 жыл бұрын
***** explain how it would ruin the series
@JoaderR6 жыл бұрын
I agree. But it could maybe be based off the manga since there's more character in there (Kairi actually does something in KH2 manga :o)
@Byakuyagaming13 жыл бұрын
@ExcruciatingLAUGH i believe that large meteor is from the new transformers movie. i could be wrong though as ive not seen it myself.
@SatchelMarr11 жыл бұрын
'Cause that worked out so well with the Star Wars prequels and the Clone Wars...
@danielgusev356311 жыл бұрын
Organization xiii was first then the 13th struggle both versions than graceful assassin than the 13th dilemma than lord of the castle then another side
@EruditoGaming4 жыл бұрын
I'm fond of calling this the 13th clash
@quackblade811 жыл бұрын
The models for Donald and Goofy shown off for the PS4 and Xbone version are so detailed and cartoon-like, it's amazing. Sora's model is also a lot better than ever before seen on the PS2 version (don't really like that one), and these details could never be achieved on Wii U tech and run as smoothly at 60fps
@Uiopty2 жыл бұрын
"I'm so flattered!"
@chrisd92299 жыл бұрын
Is there such a thing as too amazing?
@raxliche56648 жыл бұрын
5 years after this videos uploading imma make the first Kingdom Hearts comment
@sonicchocobo8 жыл бұрын
this is awesome
@johnsoismybro12 жыл бұрын
Kingdom Hearts but they mix up with Cool ass Battle music and pimp it up too :)
@JuvAmp9512 жыл бұрын
It could be,but the Organization XIII theme is based from the first part of "Another Side",that was composed first for the secret ending in the first KH.But you are right,it's the same exact bit as the Organization XIII theme,let's just say that it could be either from the first part of "Another Side" or from "Organization XIII" ;)
@SinclairS2Engine8 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know what the link in the description lead to, the video is no longer available.
@jefftheindianchief827912 жыл бұрын
This isn't in any of the games, this combines many of the organization themes, but with the picture on the video and the music, imagine, the most powerful array of enemies invading, while the most powerful heroes struggle to keep up! Eh, just a thought...
@andrixjr10 жыл бұрын
Kingdom Hearts on Xbox One is amazing. Don't know why all the hate. I love KH, I also love Xbox. So....
@swixx6399 жыл бұрын
Challenger Drex Because XBoner sucks ass.
@Kingu-Sama5 жыл бұрын
none of the other games are on xbox for a reason
@ROSPoetry112 жыл бұрын
the 13th anthology is struggle mixed with dilemma and i think a little darkness of the unknown in there or reflection. I cant remember.
@megadiabrous11 жыл бұрын
this is so nostalgic :D
@iansynge76565 жыл бұрын
I am sorry, but now that Re:Mind is out with 13 Data Organization Battles, each with their own theme, I'm afraid we need a new 13th Anthology immediately.
@skelly002812 жыл бұрын
In a parallel universe, it's a pile of ash and it screams "LOL KEFKA WUZ HERE"
@ivanlax5412 жыл бұрын
ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Stryker24612 жыл бұрын
Got nerves to diss me. I'll just laugh it off. If I were like, Kagami Taiga, that'd be a whole different matter. With my previous situation, I'd rip you a new one and be all over you like a bad virus/malware attack to a computer.
@MuseOfTheMoose9 жыл бұрын
I love the 13th struggle part
@WalCalKhIII12 жыл бұрын
It's not in a game. This is a composure of the different themes used for Organization XIII. Like 13th Struggle, which we all know is from KH Chain of Memories, the remade one, and KH2. The 13th reflection, which was the theme used for some of the data fights in KH2FM. And a few other themes that I'm not too familiar with.
@ENDtredecim11 жыл бұрын
live streaming connections to all broadband social networks easier online co-op free mmo(such as DUST 514) and more they already have a small but excellent collection of games that are finished as well as a whole array of games in the making it is def not short on games for the future like the PS3, XBOX360&WII were in the 1st 2 yrs of their releases so there is definitel A LOT too look foward to
@ElectricDiscordLP12 жыл бұрын
It's from Kingdom Hearts II, and I think it may also play in Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days.
@thebrownest11 жыл бұрын
To all the people who are getting offended that people don't want KH on the Xbox1: Think about it like this. It's like the Halo series deciding to come out with Halo:5 on both the PS4 and Xbox1. Sure it makes logical sense, but it just doesn't feel right. That's how I think it is with KH3 coming out on Xbox1, at least for me that's how it is
@Lordilucas1211 жыл бұрын
Kingdom hearts is like, full third party though, while Halo is from Microsoft (since like a year or so?) So Halo being exclusive makes more sense.
@Tamacat38811 жыл бұрын
Except Kingdom Hearts has been on both Nintendo and Sony consoles since 2004 with Chain of Memories, the second game in the series and was an exclusive title. People just like to whine; like WE should care about the competition between two manufacturers that just see us a vending machines that are exceptionally noisy at times.
@wolfpax18110 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I could care less which system it comes out on, I just want to be able to play all the games on one system so I don't have to buy every single one released in the last 10 years just to enjoy them.
@unit820610 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY THAT IS A PERFECT WAY TO PUT IT
@thebrownest10 жыл бұрын
What? I'm slightly confused by what you said...
@desvati407412 жыл бұрын
Seems a little too stringy of a reason. I mean, Kingdom Hearts itself has you kicking the shit out of more than a few Disney characters with Donald and Goofy (And others depending on the situation) at your side assisting with just that.
@Ash_Wen-li11 жыл бұрын
It's an orchestrated remix from a few songs, mostly from kh2
@Dalmondo11 жыл бұрын
I have this picture as one of my backgrounds for my windows theme.
@MajinMaster9712 жыл бұрын
Well, they were all composed by the same guy, so it's not really anything surprising. Although I love this more than the real songs - he should do orchestrals of them all