GREATEST SECRET Kept By The Emperor | Warhammer 40K Lore

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The Lost Primarch

The Lost Primarch

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Hello, Nerd! In this video we will explore the Emperors greatest secret, a one last card up his sleeve that no one is aware of.
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@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
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@carlsonbench1827
@carlsonbench1827 28 күн бұрын
Adverts halfway through the video are much more annoying than a voice that is difficult to understand.
@thedango6890
@thedango6890 28 күн бұрын
Omegan and alpharius where the first found
@judowrestlerka
@judowrestlerka 28 күн бұрын
:)
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
​@@carlsonbench1827 Here is the attention you so desperately seek. Why don't you just go away? Like... forever.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
@@thedango6890 The text comes literally from the book, if you want to beef with someone, then beef with author.
@GenghisTron
@GenghisTron 29 күн бұрын
my new favorite 40k channel. Don't listen to the losers your voice sounds fine and unique
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that.
@jessl1934
@jessl1934 29 күн бұрын
​@@TheLostPrimarchIn a sea of creators who paraphrase the wikis, there are only a few channels who do things differently. Of all the newer channels who do something outside of this, there's Arthur Bones who started strong but mostly just does editorializing and he's gotten weaker and weaker as he has exhausted all of his most interesting opinions, there's Live! From The Black Library who is very verbose and has a lot going on in life and in KZbin projects so they upload infrequently (understandably) but they have a tendency to strap in for a 60+ minute yapfest just to make the point. Not quite on the same level as Luetin's endless hypotheticals and constant navel gazing but still in roughly the same ballpark. Then there's your channel: interesting ideas from the source material, not just regurgitating the wiki, and to the point usually in under 15 minutes. Truly a hidden gem.
@thomassmith2605
@thomassmith2605 29 күн бұрын
I really like the unique point of view and speaking style, your videos are great and I really enjoy watching them! Keep up the good work!
@Aberinkula9
@Aberinkula9 29 күн бұрын
​@@TheLostPrimarch Your voice and accent are very uniques and they enrich your Channel. Keep up your interesting work, NEEERD!
@leito1996
@leito1996 29 күн бұрын
I agree. Not a story channel I will fall asleep too! I have plenty of those already. Keep it up!
@crvenizoki
@crvenizoki 27 күн бұрын
He's sitting on a throne playing 5D chess while snackin on psykers..
@jamricsloe
@jamricsloe 29 күн бұрын
When you purge the galaxy of a religious memory you leave yourself the only option.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Yes indeed
@Einwetok
@Einwetok 29 күн бұрын
A Dark Song
@stanislasmularoni1001
@stanislasmularoni1001 25 күн бұрын
or just people stop being religious you can live without iit
@Einwetok
@Einwetok 25 күн бұрын
@@stanislasmularoni1001 Only works while the boot is on the neck. Every region on earth has its own beliefs tailored to the culture and many other influences. Stamp something out, something takes it's place. The human desire for a belief structure trumps all reason, personal maturity, cultural and technical progress. The only way to keep it silent and forgotten is depopulation and total destruction .
@idontlikerome2744
@idontlikerome2744 23 күн бұрын
Well big bro comes with a shiny, golden armor surrounds 18 big dudes saying he and his gang is gonna unite humanity back and bring a golden age to everybody Dude was asking for it
@raestlinx
@raestlinx 28 күн бұрын
When they say the Emperor stole the Chaos Gods powers, I think the implication is that he cheated them. I believe that he actually took their power legitimately, but thats not in the Chaos Gods Lexicon, they never give their power freely. He took it by beating them in their own games, not by playing out their fake challenges like Horus did.
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 26 күн бұрын
I could see that happening. He 'cheated' because they didn't win, and they can't, won't accept that. He is not a 'player' in the game in their view. How dare a piece on the board make it's own decision?
@Brekhald
@Brekhald 24 күн бұрын
He made a bargain before the unification of Terra but after he became the king of Germany (or what they call it in 40k). He used a cult in Scandinavia to bargain for him, he asked the chaos gods to give him plans to create super soldiers (like thunder warriors, Custodes etc), in return Emperor would spread the word of Chaos gods, and let humanity worship them without interference. But after Emperor got the plans and started to make super soldiers, he reneged on the deal and instead crushed all worship and created a secular imperium.
@dianab3585
@dianab3585 28 күн бұрын
Ive gotten into some really intense debates with my husband over the Emperor, his motives, origins and whom or what he actually is. So thank you for this video and all you do!
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Glad I could provide some clarity.
@johannahunderwood4596
@johannahunderwood4596 27 күн бұрын
I have these debates with my Chaos-loving son, the heretic!
@dianab3585
@dianab3585 27 күн бұрын
@@johannahunderwood4596 I understand. I have 6 total. 4 boys 2 girls. So the 19 year old is at college and loves metal gear solid. The 18 year old is my gears of war baby. But the 17 year old is a follower of Slanesh. It's hard cause the 8 year old is on Fortnite and Roblox. He is slowly getting into Space Marines 2. But yeah heresy is hard when it's family 😂 Looks like my 4 year old daughter likes the sisters as she watches space Marine 2 game play. So we shall see what the 1 year old does. The Emperor Protects!
@hellsHeRo-r4i2y
@hellsHeRo-r4i2y 26 күн бұрын
@dianab3585 same here dad of 5 .. 3 girls 2 boys ..twins boys lol .oldest is 13 girl youngest is 1yr girl . My little big clan I call them . Lol 😂
@hellsHeRo-r4i2y
@hellsHeRo-r4i2y 26 күн бұрын
@dianab3585 my 10yr old middle girl is my 40ker . She maks space marine 1 alot and red dead lol 🤣 and IV got her in to audios the light one she cried when one of the silent sisters died .in it . Had to tell her it's ok there duty was to go down fighting . She got that but still. Was my answer from her . She loves there armour and the dark elder and elder armour yet to drop there lore on her there is plenty of time for that tale of woe ... Lol 🤣
@oatlord
@oatlord 29 күн бұрын
Lol I hear "hello nerd" in my head often now. Best 40k lore intro.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Hello, NERD!
@GreenClawForestry
@GreenClawForestry 28 күн бұрын
Hello NERD
@ulkem
@ulkem 28 күн бұрын
You've pointed out a great quote here "Make plans after plans, and layer them". Words to live by. He is for sure polarizing, myopic and full of hubris but god dayum he's right.
@morgothable
@morgothable 27 күн бұрын
I generally think that the Emperor didn't want the Imperium to last. He could have controlled humanity for more than 40.000 years at the time the Imperium was made. It was only at the height of humanity that he couldn't have taken over. I rather think this was him riding by the seat of his pants, trying to save humanity at its lowest point. His goal being to connect all of humanity and giving it the webway, this allowing humanity to be safe and to safely go through a psychic awakening by using the webway. After this, i think the goal was for humanity to take over its own rule and even create its own government. I take this from the Imperium being mostly run by the council of Terra, the council outranked the primarchs and anyone who was not the Emperor. He also kept making it clear that humans should rule humans. Finally, he built up massive universities, educated everyone and worked to increase the average persons quality of life, this generally leads to the fall of empires. The most stable empires have a powerful ruling class and a weak lower class. I think the Imperium was inherently temporary, made to connect humanity and give it what it needed to make the webway. This path also allowed his armies to use horrible methods, as any horrors committed would be blamed on the leadership of the Imperium, which would crumble. He then had to make the Imperium stable after the webway project failed, so he would have time to figure out a new plan. The webway is so central for 2 reasons: Firstly, it keeps you safe from the forces of chaos and their touch, meaning that psykers can grow and learn without becoming gates to demons. Secondly, it changes how human populations see each other, being on different planets is suddenly the same as someone living in the other end of your home town. So everyone suddenly has a reason to deal with each other as part of the same population.
@imaninja4
@imaninja4 26 күн бұрын
Now that we know what the Terminus Decree is. That would make sense. The Terminis decree would kill every primarch and every space marine, and the emperor himself as well. It's all starting to make sense now, and answers the question of why Custodians Have no trace of the emperor's Genetics.
@Equinox2149
@Equinox2149 24 күн бұрын
Malcodor confirmed that idea when he spoke to Horus. He never wanted to rule he just wanted mankind to evolve he chose some of the worst ways to do it because he figured he didn't have time.
@Brekhald
@Brekhald 24 күн бұрын
I got the complete different perspective. Emperor tried multiple times to take control of mankind, but according to the perpetuals they managed to stop him every time. It was just the catastrophe during the dark ages Emperor managed to convince the other perpetuals to help him take control and save humanity. The other perpetuals seeing no other way, joined him as his generals in the unification of Terra. But one by one the other perpetuals realized emperor was misguided and left until he betrayed them by completing the Primarch project. Emperor only cared about his goals, that is why everyone he liberated was turned into slave to feed his warmachine. Unfortunately his greatest weapons was also his greatest weakness as chaos turned his sons against him when they learned his true intentions. His goal to become emperor for all time. By being a perpetual, with his army of Custodes and his army's ability to travel instantaneously through the webway, no one would ever be able to stop him. This was one of the big reasons Horus turned, the thought that the population he convinced to join the Imperium would end up in endless enslavement. In the end when the Emperor was on his last rope, it was the other perpetuals that had to come to his aid, sacrificing themselves in order to help the Emperor defeat Horus and bring a stalemate to the Galaxy.
@TF2CrunchyFrog
@TF2CrunchyFrog 4 күн бұрын
The Emperor _is_ an autocratic tyrant. Constantin Valdor openly _states_ that the "Lex Imperialis" means nothing... that it's a ruse, merely an illusion of an Imperium running on laws. And Valdor and Malcador should know. The Emperor could always use his psychic might to make everyone love him, or erase/edit their memories, and he did. Valdor also grimly stated he would commit any atrocity for the Emperor if ordered or if it was neccessary to protect the Imperium (not its citizens): But "the end justifies the means" is not an ethical doctrine.
@dafoerder
@dafoerder 29 күн бұрын
So the emperor was made by the soulbonding of a few psykers that died and he was born. And then he made a device, that lets him soulbond with 1000 Psykers a day. Maybe the beacon the navigators see, is only a byproduct of the binding. Imagine what the 2.0 Version will be like, when he has enough Souls bonded and he rebirths himself. The psychic shockwave of will close any warprifts etc. Like the birth of a warpgod but in the materium
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
I think that is his secret goal, we at least along those lines
@dafoerder
@dafoerder 29 күн бұрын
@TheLostPrimarch the astronomicon could be like the jet of a black hole that feeds. With the emperors soul as the singularity and the souls of those psykers becoming one with this singularity. So he clings on to his life until his singularity soul is massive enough that the bargain he made with the chaos gods for his soul does not affect him any more because he is to powerful in this moment and he can instantly be reborn.
@jakehinton732
@jakehinton732 28 күн бұрын
Yea his rebirth into existence would be such a psycho- kinetic blast, it could theoretically cause damage to the hive mind of the Nids itself but opposite slannesh birth, the prince of pleasure exploded into the material universe and snatched The souls of the Eldar, the emperor's rebirth will explode into the warp with a powerful enough blast it could blind the hive mind and scorch massive portions of chaos armies dealing them a significant blow like none have ever experienced.
@jakehinton732
@jakehinton732 28 күн бұрын
​@@dafoerderI had said in a different post that I don't believe the emperor even has a soul at all I think it's all been a lie, I believe the emperor is 4th dimensional being, he made that deal with them knowing he wasn't going to have anything to give them and they chose to play dirty by instead of killing him they mortally wounded him to a point where he has to be connected to the Golden throne which keeps him in the perpetual state of life and death. The body that he inhabits is his Avatar, it would help to explain some of his abilities and things like his powers and stuff.
@nickcarroll8565
@nickcarroll8565 28 күн бұрын
I’ve always wondered if his shifting personality with guilliman in their reunion meeting was due to him being an amalgam of millions of souls.
@pinkpirate5
@pinkpirate5 29 күн бұрын
My personal take... is that the Emperor is sort of 'paying the deaths by birth scream forward' through the meat grinder that is the Imperium. What with the whole warp time weirdness. In stead of it being a massive and explosive climax he's spread it out over millenia and made each one matter within his overall plan. Not sure I'm right, but that's my read based on some of the subtext I've gotten from certain very knowledgeable characters currently.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Very interesting, I like it.
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 26 күн бұрын
That's an interesting idea. Deciding to pull the ascension out over a sustained set of millennia instead of the hyper destructive instant that Slanneish demonstrated to the galaxy. It would let him fight them directly, on their own level, without the catastrophic consequences for humanity that he saw cast the Eldar into the fire. Specifically 'god forging' a defender of humanity, a 'God' writ in an image that is symbiotic to humanity, rather than a parasite like Slanneish, or a general cancer upon sapience like the other three major warp entities. A 'Order God' to oppose them effectively, and put humanity at the heart of freedom from them.
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 28 күн бұрын
When you think about it, this plot thread is almost identical to Leto II from Dune. Really only a few slight changes have been made here but the end goal is the same, the survival of humanity. This is literally "The Golden Path" with slight differences. I knew Warhammer stole certain things from Dune but I didn't think it extended this far until now.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
It might seem like that, probably because of how viewing the fufure is involved
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 28 күн бұрын
@@TheLostPrimarch Like I said "slight differences" but essentially the narrative picture is almost identical. The end goals, the necessary sacrifice for greater good, it's all there essentially.
@robingraves9517
@robingraves9517 28 күн бұрын
I do believe that the Big E has a restore point where things start over. It kind of hinted back in the last couple of books of the Siege Of Terra.
@robingraves9517
@robingraves9517 28 күн бұрын
Hence the Ordo Chronos.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
I have video in works about it
@thedingo6577
@thedingo6577 25 күн бұрын
40 facts about 40k will always be what got me into WH, but you help me dive deep
@deanmcintyre4334
@deanmcintyre4334 28 күн бұрын
The emperor is of both worlds but no time, an anathema to the warp locked timeless chaos gods
@innocuousalias6632
@innocuousalias6632 29 күн бұрын
The emperor is playing real live darksouls. A completely unfair scenario but has unlimited continues. He will either win or suffer for eternity.
@SangsungMeansToCome
@SangsungMeansToCome 27 күн бұрын
In the Game Of Golden Thrones you either win or you go to hell.
@nickjackson1095
@nickjackson1095 24 күн бұрын
@@SangsungMeansToComeboth sometimes
@le1660
@le1660 28 күн бұрын
Tbh its always the people with accents that make the best videos to binge. Also, you cannot control that and just know that misery loves company.
@Salmon_Rush_Die
@Salmon_Rush_Die 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for saying all that. Agree 100% I have never lost faith in E's big plan.
@Omegawerewolfx
@Omegawerewolfx 28 күн бұрын
I think the real end game and the whole reason why the crusade happened in the first place is so the Emperor can complete his Pokemon collection. Some of the foil cards were scattered in the warp and that was the real reason why we had the dark age of technology.
@WallabyWinters
@WallabyWinters 27 күн бұрын
The real endgame is the friends we made along the great crusade
@Lockie98th
@Lockie98th 28 күн бұрын
I think the webway project and golden throne was a unholy union of dark age, elder and necron tech, that would kill the chaos gods in their current form and reset the warp presay, but to do that he needed to tame and chill out the Galaxy, so when the chaos gods reformed they would wouldn't come back as their current twisted form because you can't truly kill concepts, and the webway would put on other safe guards for space travel not serve as the main function
@Finraen
@Finraen 8 күн бұрын
Amazing video. I truly hope any film adaptation of 40k takes this exact approach to the Emperor and his character development, and manages to present this meta-narrative with the depth and nuance you have here.
@ChristopherDwiggins
@ChristopherDwiggins 29 күн бұрын
So could you imagine if big E found a way to pursue scientifically feeding the chaos God's while not coming at a cost of inhumane treatment and keeping a balance in the warp? That's the real goal.
@inquisitorgarza312
@inquisitorgarza312 29 күн бұрын
The Emperor grand plan is always in motion and its changes as new observations and changes happen, and like always he changes his plans in order to guarantee the survival and victory of his people.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Indeed he does
@HgHg-yp6ft
@HgHg-yp6ft 28 күн бұрын
He is doing not so well in this regard, just the few thousand innocent psykers sacrificed per day! are proof enough that the guy is doing a botched job at best.
@hansisbrucker813
@hansisbrucker813 29 күн бұрын
I wonder if The Dark King would have been humanity's equivalent of what Slaanesh is for the Eldar 🤔
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Indeed it would have, but it would be an entity of both realms not just immaterium, so it would dominate other chaos gods
@hansisbrucker813
@hansisbrucker813 29 күн бұрын
@TheLostPrimarch That would have been… bad 👀
@iurk0_streaming
@iurk0_streaming 28 күн бұрын
Also, like quantum mechanics has taught us, observation affects the observed entity, which means that looking into the future affects that future, and radically so
@darksider2903
@darksider2903 28 күн бұрын
Chaos can't be destroyed. Emperor knew that. He wanted to get rid of warp use. Webway was the only solution. He would've built great cities inside the webway where psykers will learn their gifts while rest of baseline humans and humanity will use webway for safe travels in the galaxy.
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 26 күн бұрын
That was definitely a path he was trying for, though I'd say it didn't work out so he's moved on (at least in part) to other plans. Less pleasant and happy perhaps, but required.
@quixoticpuma
@quixoticpuma 28 күн бұрын
Your videos are getting A LOT more views and comments and that makes me so excited for the future of the channel!
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Thanks, I am also happy to see such support and work paying off!
@quixoticpuma
@quixoticpuma 28 күн бұрын
@ dude your channel is gonna be huge. I fully believe you’ll hit 100k this year.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@paulmusgrave2243
@paulmusgrave2243 29 күн бұрын
His golden light is mentioned several times.If people are going to worship a god it’s going to be one of light.Not order,people always fight against order.
@carna-9501
@carna-9501 25 күн бұрын
Order and Tyranny are often times only a single step away from each other.
@intenzityd3181
@intenzityd3181 20 күн бұрын
They don't though. People seek out order and flee from chaos. Civilisations fall when chaos overtakes order. People who equate order with tyranny are themselves usually subversives, or vessels for subversives much like modern progressives who demonstrably can't maintain civilisation.
@Chris_Lohmann
@Chris_Lohmann 29 күн бұрын
This was outstanding. I think this might be the best video you’ve done so far. All I’m going to add is I can’t think of the Emperor on the Golden Throne without thinking of the poem “Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night” by Dylan Thomas. The last verse in particular. I hope you’ll forgive me for quoting it here in full: “Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night. Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight, And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way, Do not go gentle into that good night. Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Thank you
@sebastiansegura954
@sebastiansegura954 28 күн бұрын
Pretty goated knowledge
@Geraduss
@Geraduss 28 күн бұрын
My few theories are. Humanity is the rebirth of the old ones and the Emperor was created to help it guide to its final stage of evolution.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
I like this
@antodiyo7523
@antodiyo7523 28 күн бұрын
Interesting 🤔 But humanity is the only biologically produced pariah/blank 180° from the old one
@Geraduss
@Geraduss 28 күн бұрын
​@@TheLostPrimarch There are a few nuggets of information one could draw together for that conclusion. We know that humanity and earth by its proxy was seeded and crafted to hold life by the old ones, and unlike the crude slapped together creations like the Eldar and the Orks humanity or its equivalent was meticulously planed and gen crafted from the start to mould a species through proper chains of evolution. We also know that allegedly the old ones were reptilian, and we do know that the war in heaven raged during the time of the dinosaurs, aka reptilians. So they could have been planning to have them evolve in to their kind first, but just in case they had contingencies in place so all life on earth were injected with the potential to evolve in to the reborn old ones. So when the void dragon found out about it, why else would he be in the Sol system? He destroyed the dinosaurs to wipe out the old ones plan, so the contingency of mammalian life triggered, eventually evolving them in to us. And well, slowly evolving us in to them. But when the void dragon noticed that, sleeping on earth all this time the safe guard was already in place in the shape of the Emperor to beat and banish him to Mars. Just my hair brain theory, feel free to steal it if you want.
@nickcarroll8565
@nickcarroll8565 28 күн бұрын
@@antodiyo7523I’m not sure we know enough about the old Ones to say that for sure. Humanity is the old known species to produce blanks… as far as I’m aware
@staxsonsuntoast1639
@staxsonsuntoast1639 28 күн бұрын
this is the coolest video I've seen on the emperor so far
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Thank you! Im glad you like it!
@GodKitty677
@GodKitty677 29 күн бұрын
The Emperor my well be just holding on hoping for the odds to fall in his favor and the tide turn. If he can stop chaos from winning, at some point he my be given the opportunity to strike back or win. If humanity worship him they wont be worshiping the chaos gods. Thus in time the strength chaos would have got from humanity to win and dominate it; would in the end become the emperors to wield. This is the part about the emperor protects belief. He protects.
@mikestafford6900
@mikestafford6900 28 күн бұрын
Glad I found your channel a few nights ago working in a factorum. Great content read in an entertaining way! Also, thank you for making this video. I don't know why people don't understood this about the Emperor. He's 3D, we're 2D. Very well put! It's cool that he makes mistakes and learns lesson just like regular humans. He is distilled Humanity in its totality just trying to stay alive one more day...and it's hard out here for a pimp
@brunojardim772
@brunojardim772 28 күн бұрын
Wow, the Empra is Prometheus!! Makes all sense now!!
@Filther-13
@Filther-13 29 күн бұрын
Humanity could ascend if an ancient turk dies. Decisions decisions...
@teyrncousland7152
@teyrncousland7152 27 күн бұрын
He wasn’t a Turk. There were no Turks in Anatolia when he was born.
@xscode3052
@xscode3052 28 күн бұрын
Finally! Someone that's not parroting "he was such a terrible father, how he did not GAF, if he'd done or said just one nice thing or told them "the truth", primarch so and so wouldnt hv thrown his toys out the cot". Even Horus at the end admitted they SHOULD MOST DEFINITELY NOT HAVE BEEN TOLD. For the last year or so I've several times scoured every bit of written emperor lore I could find since I couldn't shake the feeling the writers were hinting at something going on beneath the surface they do not yet want us to fully comprehend. He obviously knew something we dont. Hopefully they will eventually make the ambiguousness make sense. (Give it to ADB darnit!) Think Euphrati Keeler in Horus Rising, the first HH book.... and then the last HH book, her role in relighting the astonomican under the Hollow Mountain. Emps had been nudging her since Horus Rising......
@winningjubbly9712
@winningjubbly9712 6 күн бұрын
There's a tantalising bit in Godblight where the Big E hints at Mortarion being redeemed one day, before sending his errant son back to a very displeased Papa Nurgle "for now".
@abelynkn
@abelynkn 26 күн бұрын
An actual person!!!👌 You got yourself a subscriber 👍
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 26 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Nishom0926
@Nishom0926 28 күн бұрын
Didn't knew How much Emperor loved SUCK PLAN AND SCHEME OF THAT TZEENATCHEN TENTACLE. Are you Sure who is who😏
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
lol
@daltonbrown6151
@daltonbrown6151 29 күн бұрын
I wish you uploaded more, such a unique voice and so informative, i could listen to you tell me lore all day
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
I upload 5 days weekly, I cant more than that, I'll pass out :D
@MrMintyfreshsmell
@MrMintyfreshsmell 25 күн бұрын
The emperor is so powerful that even if his mortal vody dies his soil will turn into a god. The Tau even spawned their own god so the Emperor would naturally turn into one once his mortal body dies.
@gaebi
@gaebi 28 күн бұрын
Firstly, i just want to say thank you again for another amazing video. You are one of my main sources of insight into the verse from KZbin. Secondly, i see the primarchs as tests of the emperor's humanity. If he is able to unite the primarchs then he is fully capable of uniting mankind, and if he isnt....
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Wow, thank you! And a really interesting perspective!
@nickmangold2393
@nickmangold2393 22 күн бұрын
20:04 is exactly the same thought process I had on it. Slow burn.
@protobraid2327
@protobraid2327 28 күн бұрын
You sound like you walked straight out of skyrim, I love your voice!
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
I appreciate that. Thank you. And actually, quite close guess.
@sirloin869
@sirloin869 28 күн бұрын
tl;dr - he going gorkamorka, the 'good golly gosh gold' over the "great greeeeen"...
@brando2943
@brando2943 26 күн бұрын
The emperor is anathema, chaos cannot be killed with chaos, when a psycher or anything else destroys a daemon that daemon only returns to the warp and continues to exist but weapons the emperor has imbued with his anathema remove daemons from existence entirely. The pantheon tried to trick the emperor into becoming the dark king which would have resulted in him losing his anathema and becoming their equal, just another chaos god in the warp. Currently He is still the anathema and so is still dangerously beyond their control. Just my take on it 😊….. Sun Tzu Emperor - pretend to be weak when you are strong chaos - pretend to be strong when you are weak
@Dj.MODÆO
@Dj.MODÆO 28 күн бұрын
When Big E returns or whatever, unless he gets a personality makeover he will do the same thing to the astartes when he no longer needs them that he did with the thunder warriors. I believe Horace knew this or strongly suspected it.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
He knew it, he knew what happened to Thunder Warriors.
@bobloerakker9031
@bobloerakker9031 28 күн бұрын
They are not as unstable. You will always need men on the walls.
@Tripleight38
@Tripleight38 28 күн бұрын
@@bobloerakker9031 Agree, the Thunder warriors were volatile, blunt tools - powerful, but unreliable in the long-term and grand scheme of things. Astarte's were made not only to serve as pure soldiers, but also to serve as an embodiment of peak human potential. Much more than just a tool to hammer nails.
@quackenbloke7871
@quackenbloke7871 22 күн бұрын
Fascinating to listen all of this…earned a subscribe.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 22 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@telmosilva9161
@telmosilva9161 28 күн бұрын
This was a great vid, deserving a youtube boost @teamyoutube . Also think the Emperor's apparent ascendency is the last contingency that had to happen, even if against his will. Sort of a Dr. Strange "just 1" moment. Happy new year NERD! Saved all your vids from 2025 to binge watch today cause irl sh*t!
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Thank you Telmo! Enjoy! Glad you are back!
@kennethquinnies6023
@kennethquinnies6023 6 күн бұрын
I think the long term powerful enemy he has to worry about is the never ending extra galactic invasion by the Tyranids and the slow wearing away of habitable planets in this galaxy over time.
@SingularMK
@SingularMK 27 күн бұрын
I agree on the final thought in the video, gj
@glyngreen538
@glyngreen538 8 күн бұрын
Maybe the bargain E made with the chaos goods was that they could turn half his sons and fight each other?
@sebulller
@sebulller 28 күн бұрын
The Emperor could havbe stopped Horus when they faced of. But ohh no emotions got into the way. SO the real question becomes why was this.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Actually that is not what happened in their duel, the Emperor fought him after discarding his compassion for his son, as a Dark King he could have defeated him with ease but humanity would have died, so he has to fight him without drinking in the power of warp, and only through deception did he defeat Horus. Its all in the End and death vol 3
@sebulller
@sebulller 28 күн бұрын
@@TheLostPrimarch yes but what is the plan still. If humanity died the chaos gods would be so weak it is pathetic. So would it not make more sense if we died?
@derekbidelman2442
@derekbidelman2442 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for the excellent content...NERD!!!
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 26 күн бұрын
I'm just happy you enjoy it, NERD!
@Sir.Strange
@Sir.Strange 28 күн бұрын
I love your accent reminds of xPetu. Very pleasant voice c:
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Thank you !
@aclock2
@aclock2 29 күн бұрын
Pretty sure it's the Webway project and the Imperial Truth. Once mankind no longer needs to rely on Warp travel and no longer believe in Warp shits, the Chaos Gods will be severely depowered. He still has the Tyranid, Necron, Ork, Eldar, Tau to deal with though.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
All with time, chaos first.
@BadTeacherUA
@BadTeacherUA 25 күн бұрын
Beautiful discovery your channel is, oh Sage. Omnissiah bless you!
@oNovais
@oNovais 27 күн бұрын
As how like humans are with eldar, maybe his connection with Slaneesh was trying to understand it to reborn as a god without doom humans souls.
@JonathanARae
@JonathanARae 28 күн бұрын
Nice work. Great narrator performances. Intriguing story and analysis.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 26 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@georgesulea
@georgesulea 29 күн бұрын
Wow, such analysis and such great illumination on this subject. You never cease to amaze good Sir. Well Done.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@pedroconstant1199
@pedroconstant1199 27 күн бұрын
I don't know, but the more I hear about the Emperor, the more he sounds like the God Emperor from Dune. Seeing a future and preparing humanity for this event is the golden path of the God Emperor...
@Robert_Douglass
@Robert_Douglass 28 күн бұрын
Kiitos @TheLostPrimarch !
@Daemon1356
@Daemon1356 29 күн бұрын
Nice one,awesome video mate
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Thanks 👍
@alejandro5695
@alejandro5695 29 күн бұрын
Brilliant theory. Keep up the good work. Your videos are quite enjoyable.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@1LLog1K
@1LLog1K 23 күн бұрын
*_"Hello Nerd 👋 "_*
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 23 күн бұрын
Hello, Nerd!
@sparking023
@sparking023 14 күн бұрын
I like to think that the Emperor's foresight isn't perfect, so in trying to prepare for events from the future, he unknowingly walkid into the path that leaves him entombed in the Golden Throne with a massive cult after him and a daily feed of psykers. But since he's still the Emperor, he decided to commit to the bit, "guess I'm a god of humanity now" and is using his increasing presence in the warp to influence the war across the galaxy. Things like the Star Child and that time he lowkey possessed Guilleman and set Nurgle's garden on fire.
@Zombraiined
@Zombraiined 27 күн бұрын
I swear Vashtorr is the dead god emperor. Not in a literal sense, but in a warp sense. The mirroring of their bodies is so insane.
@hfw3
@hfw3 8 күн бұрын
7:00 Have you ever considered the implications of being able to see multiple timelines? Can you imagine the weight of those decisions? What does one do when you see this 1 in a billion chance for a utopia, an ideal state of peace and prosperity, but it is surrounded by nearly every other branch leading to hell? Do you go for it? Do you choose the most likely path to good outcomes? Do you seek the best outcome? How do you weigh those decisions? Warhammer 40k has always seemed to me to be the attempt at the best potential path knowing there was fire and pain to walk through to get there. The question I carry with me - did the Emperor foresee this future and choose this path for the reward on the other end? Or is the current path of the universe the dark side branch where something went wrong?
@ShockArcl1te
@ShockArcl1te 27 күн бұрын
"We have to build plans for all possible contingencies because reasons, but they'll always fail because reasons. Also my future sight is flawless except for all the ways its not, and I'm always right except for when I'm hilariously wrong. I'm not a tyrant even though I'm doing tyrannical things. I'm a victim of fate, not at all like *everyone else who has ever lived.* That's just my burden. I'm totally a genius, bro." -The Emperor
@option4lnamename101
@option4lnamename101 26 күн бұрын
This is why, i love 40k. It can be what you think or want after you have read the main script. Just saying. 😂😅
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 25 күн бұрын
Indeed
@Ricardo_thecounsel
@Ricardo_thecounsel 29 күн бұрын
He knew Sangainus couldnt be Warmaster....for sure
@roberttheshoeless
@roberttheshoeless 27 күн бұрын
Your voice is everything Keep up Hello nerd
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 26 күн бұрын
Hello, Nerd! And thank you!
@Corwin0fAmber
@Corwin0fAmber 22 күн бұрын
Awesome video! I also had a theory that the emperor knew about the herecy, hence he treated some primarchs like shit. It was not an accident or bad parenting. It was deliberate. He saw angron with the nails was useless- that's why he antagonized him, contrary to for example Corux, whom he told about the warp. In the grand schemes of things, mortarion, fulgrim, kurze, lorgar can be sacrificed, being less important that for example, Lion, Sanguinius or Russ. The only big losses falling were Perturabo, Horus and Magnus
@Fusspilzsammler1
@Fusspilzsammler1 28 күн бұрын
his big plan is to open up a waffle house in Palm Springs together with his dad and uncle. Oh wait…
@readthiscomment6748
@readthiscomment6748 26 күн бұрын
The main issue i see with this is how much of humanity actually has positive emotion towards him. From the perspective of someone living in a hive world, their lives are complete misery and torture and have no idea why they are doing this or worshiping the emperor that did this and just know theyll get shot if they dont. If its known that this is the emperors plan amongst the primarchs and their is an end to the wars and genocides amongst everyone then i could see it at least being more possible but still a gamble to what kind of god would emerge if it happens with all the conflicting emotions that exist towards him.
@RobertJaworski216
@RobertJaworski216 29 күн бұрын
That was an excellent video Brother keep up the great work man 🤘🤘💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍😎😎😎 28:49
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@Cristov123
@Cristov123 28 күн бұрын
Please do a video explaining why Master Chief would get absolutely spanked in 40k. All I see are Halo fan boys talking about how Chief could take on an Astartes like childs play because he's a one man army. There dont seem to be any videos of opposing narrative, other than those that just talk about the UNSC as a whole. Pleeeease
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
I would but I just don't mix the universes. I think it is silly to compare them purely because of how differently they all are set up.
@AetherXIV
@AetherXIV 29 күн бұрын
that was amazing. you are a great storyteller
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@hrperformance
@hrperformance 29 күн бұрын
Awesome video. Super interesting 👍
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, really
@jamescharles2376
@jamescharles2376 20 күн бұрын
Hello NERDZ! :)) makes my day everytine
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 20 күн бұрын
I'm glad, Nerd!
@heretech7025
@heretech7025 24 күн бұрын
I wonder if the psychers being sacrificed somehow coalesce into the warp the same way the forces of the shaman did to give birth to the emperor and its going to play a part in the starchilds birth.
@bowlingvanjapan4099
@bowlingvanjapan4099 27 күн бұрын
The emperors goal is to eliminate individuality and create a bio robotic species that can only worship him as he cleanses the universe. He is the god of pain and suffering. He blinds with his light and burns with molten gold. Or he is an avatar of a certain scheming chaos god.
@IchHassePasswoerter
@IchHassePasswoerter 27 күн бұрын
If that were his goal, he would have achieved it millennia ago.
@jonathanryan9946
@jonathanryan9946 29 күн бұрын
I can't tell you how many times I've tried to point out to fans, who limited by a single human perspective, just think of the Emperor as either a tyrant or an evil man secretly trying to become a God. When if you actually study the lore, the Emperor is clearly just playing a game vs Chaos that could easily last Eons. Further he's always adapting, his plans in ancient earth millennia before our time fit that eras needs and his abilities/powers then. So his tactics then mean nothing now, all that matters is the pattern in his action. That's to save humanity. Which makes absolute sense considering he's based on the God Emperor of the Dune franchise, who made himself into a tyrant because he foresaw humanity stagnating and dying out unless we spread throughout the entire universe. So he made himself such a tyrant humanity fled from his Empire, to such a degree it became embedded into the human psyche to expand ever outwards and away from our galaxy. Just here, the enemy isn't humanity, it's external forces either wiping us out or corrupting us that he's fighting against. Yes, his plans suck for Quadrillions everyday for 10 millennia thus far... but he's in it for the entire species beating all the forces eternity can throw at them. These deaths are a drop in the bucket compared to that ocean of potential lives he's fighting for. Further he does seem to be reincarnating some and saving the souks of others, so they might die physically but not necessarily on a soul level.
@cptkrank6802
@cptkrank6802 28 күн бұрын
If the birth of the Dark King would consume all of humanity, then the Dark King could simply re-create humanity and re-seed the galaxy through the warp rifts. Another contingency.
@Vognarvik_Gaming
@Vognarvik_Gaming 29 күн бұрын
Let's Go NERD 😁👍
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
LETS GO!
@seekerofarcades4634
@seekerofarcades4634 29 күн бұрын
🤔interesting👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@Chet2378
@Chet2378 29 күн бұрын
Great video!
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@vividhydra2869
@vividhydra2869 28 күн бұрын
The background music at 6:38 is so beautiful. What is the name of the track ?
@markjoachen
@markjoachen 25 күн бұрын
The chance to control the future is like 1 per cent rven when your at your best sadly
@Jay_Vendetta
@Jay_Vendetta 28 күн бұрын
This is super random but where are you from? I'm terrible with accents and I've been trying to determine it and it's bugging me 🤣 also another amazing video!
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Latvia
@Jay_Vendetta
@Jay_Vendetta 28 күн бұрын
@TheLostPrimarch My mind was saying somewhere towards the East of Europe. It's a great accent 👌🏼
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@Gemis_Heresy
@Gemis_Heresy 29 күн бұрын
Such a good video
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 29 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES 29 күн бұрын
IM AMERICAN. BUT PRUSSIAN AND BAVARIAN. YOULL NEVER SAY NONSENSE LIKE THESE PEOPLE. RESPECT. AND ACCENT'S ARE AWESOME LOL.
@jakehinton732
@jakehinton732 28 күн бұрын
On the topic of the emperor I believe he is actually a fourth dimensional being and the body that he inhabits is just an avatar of his, when it came to selecting the warmaster I don't think the emperor had control of that I believe that the only way the warmaster would have come about is with the chaos gods in agreement on Horus. Like if the emperor would have chosen the lion in the chaos gods might not have ever even tried to tempt him, the emperor was because he was a fourth dimensional being and the only way they need to stop him was not to kill him but to imprison him with the Golden throne, he is trapped in a perpetual state of life and death and cannot return to the fourth dimension. It would explain a lot of his actions and abilities as well. Let me be clear, the warp is not the Fourth dimension, it is still a third dimension it is just different with different fundamental laws that apply to it. I personally believe that some other perpetual's are fourth dimensional avatars also.
@anirudhdad2739
@anirudhdad2739 28 күн бұрын
What if humans start worshiping all 4 chaos gods as 4 horseman of god emperor, khorne as hirseman of war and honor, tsech as horseman of intelkigence and progress, nurgul as horseman of life and healing and last one as horseman of love and care. If humanity with its massive population staet this would these gods starts to become positive and part of god emperor. This would also heals warp right?
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 28 күн бұрын
They always had also positives, Khorne for example, represents valor and honor too, but these chaos gods are born from negative emotions, something that cannot be change and so nor can they, it is tgeir fundamental nature
@hp5864
@hp5864 28 күн бұрын
40K conspiracy theories are the only conspiracies that interest me!
@biggybrolunch3809
@biggybrolunch3809 22 күн бұрын
We also have to consider, what is the answer that lets Games Workshop keep telling stories and selling minis?
@jamricsloe
@jamricsloe 29 күн бұрын
Eldar Farseers do this too. It is their role.
@Someonecrea
@Someonecrea 29 күн бұрын
Let’s gooo
@JohnLynch-b7e
@JohnLynch-b7e 25 күн бұрын
25:40. Couldn't he just admit he was wrong and amend his imperial "Truth"?
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 25 күн бұрын
Used Imperial Truth to eradicate every other religion so that people woukd worship only him :)
@jhhjfmjd6994
@jhhjfmjd6994 27 күн бұрын
I've never read any of the warhammer books only seen other peoples interpretations of the characters and the universe, you've managed to nail what i have thought about the emperor he is a being who is nearly omniscient lived a thousand lifetimes and has seen the natural cycle of humanity played out countless times he has a disdain for religion because that power corrupts and will eventually crumble civilizations he's seen it in the past present and possible futures. Yet look at the state of the imperium ran with religious fervor to the "god" emperor opposite of the vision the emperor seems to place on the future of man not to mention how close he is to the immaterial plane having his power derive from the very place that most would consider heretical to even suggest. You also have to wonder how he fits within the immaterium I think that he was the little girl that got through the labrynth of tzeentch and from that gained more knowledge than a mortal mind could comprehend. Also what exactly are the pre requisites from birthing a chaos deity iirc it took thousands of years for slanesh to be born so its possible that's the end game. Yet here we are a couple of nerds discussing a story that is yet to be finished there are many ways this story could go and i for one will be curious to see the endgame if they decide to take it there cause right now everything is fucked and getting worse in the universe cause after all. There is only war Lmao nerd you read this.
@TheLostPrimarch
@TheLostPrimarch 26 күн бұрын
I did read it all :D
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