GREEN BERET Reacts to Fury | Beers and Breakdowns

[@austin3598]

When Shia goes, “wait till you see.” And the new private says, “see what?” Shia: “what a man can do to another man.” Gave me chills man.

[@usarwife]

Same. Best line in the whole movie, in my opinion.

[@mensspace9519]

Yeah that line was powerful 🙌, because it really painted what was war about: men doing atrocious things to others men !

[@Rommel_209]

War brings out the worst and the best in humanity

[@noerosas7691]

Shia saying it with a cold hard stare.

[@haraldisdead]

This is Shias best role BY FAR. except maybe even Stevens

[@cun009]

My father was 2nd Armored, 82nd recon from Sicily to berlin. Served from North Africa. Silver star. Took him to see Saving Private Ryan in 98. After the movie ended he just sat there, my mother at his side, for quite a while. People walking out just looking. Went for ice cream after, my wife asking if the movie was real. He looked down and said, yea the most real was the sounds of rounds bouncing off steel BUT he said, when the soldier was stabbed bothered him because at that time in the war he carried 2 .45's, a carbine and at least one grenade and there's no way that he would have been in that position Plus when you had no ammo you moved, as simple as that. Even before, once your pos was discovered you moved Days later my mother said after the movie, he told her the hardest part was him hearing "earn this", "tell me I lived a good life" She said after returning home from the war he would awake screaming at her in German in his sleep for a few years My father was a good man, raised 8 kids, and never said a word about the war. Always told his sons to not enlist, not trust the government.

[@davidpartlow6188]

Respect

[@tom2gunzbombadil689]

My grandfather hit Omaha beach.. lost most of his guys getting off the boat. Ended up getting afew promotions bcuz everyone else died. He liked the movie but said the real thing was alot worse. He didn't really speak about the war much. But he came home with alot of medals and 3 purple hearts. N he stayed until it was over.

[@dingchavez7]

As a current M2A1 50 gunner. He's effectively using the weapon system as an indirect weapon. He's utilizing plunging fire to put rounds down range. Your commentary and explanation was 100% correct.

[@headspaceandtiming2114]

Exactly. Maybe they had a target. Maybe they were putting some H.and I. in a area. That war was massive compared to what we’ve had.

[@jojoemcgeejoe457]

I think what a lot of people miss is that where they're at in the opening scene is because they're the only tank in their platoon to survive a battle with a Tiger tank. When they're in the first camp and the tank commanders are talking, one says something like "I thought there were no more tigers left" and Brad Pit replies with "tell that to the rest of my platoon". The tiger they fight in the field later in the day is the second time they were the last tank standing in the same sort of battle... that day. The entire movie was one full 24 hour day. Sunrise to sunrise.

[@flokejm3904]

A scene that was overlooked was when the German soldier sees norm under the tank when he shines the flashlight on him. It was such a beautiful moment of, yes we’re enemies but we’re still both human.

[@GLevario12]

It was a young soldier, i wonder if they were trying to put across that Norm wasn't an exception in this war. Both sides were throwing in young men some of which maybe didn't want to kill anyone. He did what Norm at the start would have done or that Polygot from Saving Private Ryan did with the German Soldier that came back in the end.

[@lethalchocobo1886]

Doesn't fit their narrative and would clash with their appallingly dumb "I would shoot unarmed NaZIs in the back without a second thought" stance, forgetting that not every german soldier was a convinced one and out for blood. The one Norman had to shoot was a regular soldier, not a Waffen SS.

[@KumaBean]

@Geoff Your comment and that scene in the film remind me of this, stick it into your search engine if you fancy a read; ‘ World War One: The British hero who did not shoot Hitler’ Basically, a British Soldier was in his trench and he could see someone approaching, when they got closer he could tell it was a German, neither shot at each other and the German turned back to find his own trench. That German soldier was Hitler. 🍻

[@ThunderChunks]

But shooting the german POW is ok, I guess?

[@prestonasher32]

@@GLevario12that’s probably what the film is going for, but it’s somewhat hard to believe someone like that would exist within an SS battalion. By that point in the war, the only people left in the ss battalions were some absolute diehards who fully drank the kool-aide. He was far more likely to just kill the enemy soldier than let him live.

[@joeygarcia3747]

As a Tanker I totally enjoyed hearing snake eaters talking about my craft. Best job I ever had🤙

[@jimarger8533]

Fury is the kind of movie you can watch many times.

[@wannamebruh]

stg i’ve watched it 15 times

[@mutouvhs843]

@@wannamebruh on my fifth lol

[@MikeyRumi180]

not really. it's got issues for TRUE WW2 fans.

[@mutouvhs843]

@@MikeyRumi180 lol? saying youre a ww2 fan is such a pathetic thing to say “im a fan of the mass murder and genocide of people” get a life i could care less its a fucking MOVIE

[@seanassociateproductions1691]

@@MikeyRumi180 the battle scenes were fucked, but the mentality and portrayal of how soldiers act and talk is one of the better portrayals.

[@mileschang796]

I personally love the meal scene, the brokeness portrayed is heartbreaking.

[@aaronconstantine1292]

👁

[@GTFBITK]

They were a-holes but they saw real sh so it's like you want to give them a pass.

[@ajjohnson3497]

That scene gets to me every time. Seeing Bible’s eyes shrink-wrapped in tears while Gordo tells his story, those are eyes that have seen far too much.

[@jcm028]

My grandpa was a sherman tank commander in the 32nd Armor Rgt -3rd Armor Div. Brad Pitt wasn't nearly as bad-ass as my grandpa though. They took a tiger tank round in the turret during the battle of the bulge, decimated the gunner, and with my grandpa sitting directly behind him it blew off his jaw. Made it all the way back to London for surgery,

[@chrisburke624]

Geepers... and that's before modern medicine, modern surgery, pain management, etc Tough as nails

[@matthewhopkins1999]

My Grandfather was also in the Battle of the Bulge, he never really talked about it much. I assume your Grandpa didn't either, unlike these guys. This movie is spot on accurate, not taking away from Ryan, or Band of Brothers. Solders humanity was in short supply, its really amazing that these men came home and became the Greatest Generation.

[@jcm028]

@@matthewhopkins1999 Quite actually, he wasn't shy about talking about it at all. He would get choked up, but he loved talking about his buddies, his crewman and how they were heroes.

[@jonathanbaron-crangle5093]

@@chrisburke624 They had morphine back then.

[@lucasjamieson7423]

real life pimp

[@jodyhannah5931]

For me, as a veteran tanker, the best scene was the battle with the Tiger. Pretty much accurate for how a mixed M4 group would have dealt with a Tiger. For reference the original squad Fury had was 2 M4A2, 1 looked like an M4A3 with an M4A2 turret and "Fury" is an M4A3E8. Only 2 of the 4 tanks had the 76mm gun while the others had the more common 75mm. None of which could reliably penetrate the front armor of a Tiger. I've had so many people say that charging the Tiger was stupid, but the fact was M4s were faster and more agile, but had shit armor compared to the Tiger. Getting to the sides or the rear was the only option.

[@ajjohnson3497]

I don’t know their doctrine back then, but I agree with you. You’re presenting your thickest armor to his gun, you’re moving and forcing him to move his turret and both tanks know that the Sherman is faster. Even if it was their doctrine, I know that it’s a movie and I loved it.

[@Hi-how-are-you-today.]

How did they open the hatch? Can’t you lock it from inside?

[@gregsbiplays9899]

76mm could upper front plate (and lower plate too) pen a Tiger

[@wnose]

You might appreciate this reaction to Fury from an ex-PLA tank driver: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZWWk3yggZqmi5Y

[@rafev6682]

Dude, really connected w/ the dinner scene in the same way Buck described - trying to tap into a sense of normalcy in a war zone. Case in point - saw this flick in my down time in Afghanistan while trying to chill out. The part where the young girl starts to sing with the playing of the piano actually made me close my eyes bc it sounded so beautiful, and I was instantly removed from where I was. I rewound that part 3 more times to do the same thing bc it was access to one of the only parts of the world I left behind that seemed right at my finger tips. We do what we have to to feel normal at times. Keep up the good work guys.

[@Based_Shogun]

I went to Zumba until they mortared the gym.

[@jodyhannah5931]

Anybody else remember the hockey games in Khandahar? Small amount of normalcy in the middle of chaos.

[@TimRHillard]

Let me ratchet up my pants and tell youins a story... I was a M60 tanker at first, then transitioned to the M1 in the 1980's. I agree that the M60 was a steel coffin, but not an M1. Your only real fear is from aircraft overhead, but they are now carrying stingers on the M1 in some units?. An infantry man can possibly take out a track, but you are safe inside. He'd better run for his life after firing. The WW2 M4 Sherman in Fury was a steel coffin for sure. The soldiers and marines fighting in those had some real cajones. Going up against those German Panthers, and Tigers, oh shit! Worse even still, the Jagdpanther. This was a tank destroyer. It had that wicked 88mm gun, and was really fast. They could really reach out and touch you. We, Americans enjoyed air superiority in ww2, so we did not have to face the stutka bombers like other armies had to.

[@ZombieCleaner]

I did not go that deep into the egg scene in my mind I'll be honest. You guys just opened up a whole new side to something I've seen a dozen times. Holy shit.

[@TheCoolwhipped]

Ya I definitely didn't see it that way. I saw it as Shia being jealous that the kid still had some innocence left and he was pissed at Brad Pitt for feeding it. Like "I can never go back to that because of the things I had to do to keep you alive, and now you're gonna sit here and exercise that civility with the kid, knowing full well that we can't anymore? Fuck you. If can't have it, no one can." Especially since right after that, the mortar round hits the house, killing her, and, metaphorically, everything she meant to him.

[@ZombieCleaner]

@@TheCoolwhipped yeah it's crazy to think that they've lost everything that makes them a normal feeling human being. They've seen so much they're just numb to it and basically going on instinct like wild animals .

[@ChazFLA648]

Yes, the egg scene now makes sense. Incredible explanation. It's now, to me, the glue that holds the whole movie together.

[@ZombieCleaner]

@@ChazFLA648 it used to upset and piss me off so badly I would fast forward. It really made me hate Jon Bernthal's character with a passion.

[@ZombieCleaner]

@@VanyaTheSlavic who pissed in your cornflakes? Or licked your eggs to be on topic.

[@rocc_the_proof8540]

The dinner scene in Fury may be the best scene ever filmed behind the “you think I’m funny how” scene from The Goodfellas. Or Vice versa. So gritty. So beautiful.

[@alexandermcdowell4755]

The crew dynamic is 100% on point for how tank crews behave around each-other.

[@CJ_esc.artist]

Ok, I have to say I stumbled onto this probably because I've watched other Veterans do a reaction video to movies and just sit there and do nothing poop on the movie. But what what I love and what this channel does so well is the "why" something is happening and the incredible insight and stories shared makes it so much more engaging. BTW, thank you for your service!

[@Desert_Rogue_Tanker]

As a tank driver I will say this movie is pretty accurate as far as how a tank crew works,fire commands.utilization of working tanks.this is by far one of my favorite movies

[@ajjohnson3497]

Someone asked me to describe a good tank crew in as few words as possible, my reply; “Four dudes that think they’re one dude”

[@wnose]

You might appreciate this reaction to Fury from an ex-PLA tank driver: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZWWk3yggZqmi5Y

[@rodeorockr9]

I think you guys nailed the interpretation of that scene. You can’t be normal after seeing and doing the things required of you in combat. Especially back then. This was such an underrated scene

[@hinds90]

The tank commands and vehicle movements as a team are 100% spot on. Brought a tear to my seeing how well the excuted that. Was a Bradley gunner and commander for a little also.

[@youngwildcat08]

Really? I was under the impression that taking a Tiger head on was pretty contrary to the actual tactics. Maybe I’m wrong though…

[@zoch9797]

@@youngwildcat08 Also, it is standard doctrine to shoot the lead tank in a column, not the rear. Fury is a very entertaining, if somewhat hollywood-ized, film.

[@politicallyinsensitive4200]

@@zoch9797 I think it was Rommel who developed the tactic of liking the lead and trail vehicles to cut off escape

[@politicallyinsensitive4200]

@@youngwildcat08 iirc Sherman was lighter and faster so the tactic was to get around the Tiger sacs shoot it in the ass where the arbor was thinnest. Had to do that from 800yd or whatever it was so they had to close the distance. Personally, of the trees weren't too thick I'd have drove through them using them for concealment and tried to flank the field.

[@iKvetch558]

@@politicallyinsensitive4200 The Fury had the 76mm high velocity gun, and so could defeat the Tiger from the front at range of 800m, even further since this was later in the war and they had HVAP rounds available...so there was not much of a need for them to close the range. On the flip side, the long barrel of the 76mm made Fury even more of a target...so the fact that the Tiger did not shoot Fury first was very unrealistic. And the thing is, they did not have to be unrealistic to be dramatic...they could have just had Fury be a Sherman with a regular 75mm gun, and it would have made multiple historical issues just disappear. In fact, had Fury been a regular gun Sherman, the movie could have been even more dramatic. IMHO Anyway, it is a great movie in many ways, but there were quite a few things they got wrong that probably would have been better if they had tried to be more accurate and...it could have been so much better. ✌

[@tenhauser]

The scene with the captain also shows how an experienced officer interacts with an NCO, as opposed to the new lieutenant.

[@raymondsmith7993]

Yes the lieutenant was spouting orders and using hand signals that are for use in combat when your men can't hear you because of all the noise in battle when they were 3 feet from them and no shooting or artillery going off. And the captain just lays out the situation and objective to Wardaddy and says I know who you are. Meaning also that he knew he was a seasoned tank commander and said now go paste them hard and get my men out. He also tells his platoon leader of his men that he sent as support that you are working for him now. Letting him know with out a any question who was in charge of the operation.

[@alexanderhaile6196]

Here's some trivia on that execution scene... The Nazi is singled out because he's wearing a US Army overcoat, and by the Rules of Land Warfare it's a war crime for a soldier to wear the enemy's uniform, and if caught you may be executed on sight. No joke. So it's not just some soldiers being mean and looking for revenge, they actually had a legal justification.

[@twoheadedboypt2]

The take on the egg scene is enlightening. As someone who tried to serve, wasn't able to and always has a huge regret and I guess shame, hearing stuff like this that feels it comes from personal experience and being able to relate as well as friends who did serve telling me they're glad I didn't , having not to go through that change, that loss of innocence/humanity. Thanks

[@ericclark2674]

Thomas Guides were AWESOME. It did take some getting used to, I'll admit, but I used them heavily from '98 to '01, all over the US. The front of the book had the high level map for the area (Mine were usually states, but some were more focused), on the high level view were squares that were labeled with pages that hold the detail. On the edge of a detail page the adjacent detail page is identified.

[@robblume3082]

Thomas Guide sounds like the Mapsco we used all over Central TX (78-82)

[@madcat3525]

Great show.The Tiger tank used in the movie was the last operational tank. The tank was on a straight concrete strip to protect it from getting damaged. Thats why you see it only going back and forward. Looking forward to more videos.

[@Rufus6540]

What's interesting is that most of the negative reactions to the tank battle state it's completely unrealistic tactically speaking (in terms of how the respective tank commanders act, who/how they choose to shoot, tactics involved, etc.). Knowing the Tiger could only move back and forward helps clear up, for me, a lot of the decisions the filmmakers made.

[@conamer6738]

Tiger tank would not leave it's cover and concealment, and Fury would have been targeted first as the greatest threat with it's 76.2mm high velocity gun. It could defeat the frontal armor of a Tger I at 500yrds

[@Personwhomakedvids]

@@conamer6738 Michael Wittmann want to talk to you

[@Feargal011]

@@Personwhomakedvids Michael Wittmann ambushed a British column that had stopped, crews dismounted, consulting maps, without any surveillance around them. Whittmann was in cover then moved out of cover to destroy last column tanks as they were the only dangers to his tank before shooting up the armoured cars and trucks in the column. Wittmann was killed doing another stunt only three weeks later.

[@stewpacalypse7104]

I get that it's the last Tiger and needs to be preserved, but its kinda funny that the once most feared tank on the battlefield needs a special road instead of driving in a field so it doesn't get a boo-boo.

[@MrGhoulie]

I don't know if you guys would every react to a 10 episode miniseries, but I highly recommend Band of Brothers. It is such a great series and touches a lot of the points you made that made this movie great. The best part is that the advisers of the series were the actual paratroopers the series follows!

[@jonathanbaron-crangle5093]

Agreed

[@SnackPack913]

Make that a mini series of reactions

[@davidkirk6572]

Band of Brothers and The Pacific were the two best ever.

[@richardpate4732]

Absolutely agree. One of the best miniseries ever made. Will give you a new appreciation for the ww2 GI.

[@BryGoose]

I agree with you on the dinner scene 100% and you are correct that a lot of people don't understand it fully.

[@timothydelaney94]

I TOTALLY remember Thomas Guides. I worked as a Paramedic in Los Angeles County and in Kern County. We memorized certain pages and coordinates to make it easier. That exchange between the guys made me smile. Nothing like trying to navigate DTLA...running code 3...in rush hour...while utilizing a Thomas Guide...good times.

[@stuksy4321]

We had Mapsco's. a big spiral bound book of maps with grids.

[@mikegould6590]

Fury for me was the Saving Private Ryan of the Armor. I love this movie. There are no slouch performances. No one mailed it in.

[@ajjohnson3497]

I feel the same, sure there were inaccuracies but no movie is perfect. The cast was perfect, you could feel the bond they shared.

[@alexdanzuka6734]

I think another scene that caught my eye was bernthal telling young Norman that he’s a good man and to stay that way, swallowed so much pride and damage in his life that wouldn’t be caught like that in front of the crew, I thought that was strong

[@zachcd390119]

Fury is a movie that, when it the showing finished, everyone was silent as they left the theater. It is fantastic. Imperfect, but so well done.

[@rosshixon6796]

Nothing to add. This movie was incredible.

[@aaronconstantine1292]

💯

[@JudgeLazar]

Man, you really did make me see the scene at the table very differently. I had always seen it as the crew being angry that they had gone through the whole war together and Top took the new guy to have a nice meal and get laid. Just simple envy or jealously. The way you broke it down completely changes the tone for me.

[@mensspace9519]

Time frame please ?

[@andywagoner4869]

Great discussion, great movie. What you said about being willing to give your life for someone and that being what makes the relationship between service members and veterans different than ordinary friendships is spot on.

[@matvangogh]

15:00 He was doing what is called "plunging fire" or "indirect fire", which is firing a weapon at a high angle so the bullet falls in a arching trajectory. The weapon is an M2 Browning which fires a large calibre round and has a long range.Essentially he was harassing some German positions that weren't in his direct line of sight.

[@theeddytor3490]

i have been fan of fury for so long, watching this reacting and breakdown of reel and real life events helped me understand this movie even more. like for example 15:50 i thought that gunner was eye balling the aim and shooting but then what you said made that scene understand even better.

[@wnose]

You might appreciate this reaction to Fury from an ex-PLA tank driver: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZWWk3yggZqmi5Y

[@adriansolis7760]

The deleted scenes on this movie were also amazing. It's like 50 mins of cut scenes

[@aewhatever]

I remember having to use the Thomas Brothers guide in the early 2000s. I delivered parts for a car dealership. It was very popular because it was way more update as you can be. And way better then previous maps that you had to unfold and fill up the seating area and so on.

[@TheKsiksa]

Edge of Tomorrow next please. Also Abel needs to be in more of these with sean and kurt. The 3 of you = laughing so hard I'm crying.

[@austinduncan5065]

Happy new year buck, Abel, Kurt and team. Here's to another year of bigger and better things for the fng academy!!!

[@theelaffingman8776]

The very last scene of this movie when he is in the ambulance driving away looking back on the tanks.....a beautiful scene. BEST JOB I EVER HAD!

[@ViperChief117]

Fury is hands down one of the greatest War films of the modern era. I remember seeing this movie when it originally released in theaters on my B-Day since I was visiting family in L.A. Instantly became one of my favorites. Lol

[@robertsears8323]

Only a good movie if you don't care about them being historically accurate.

[@phil_5430]

@@robertsears8323 Honestly I've realized that I love these historically rather inaccurate movies like Fury, Saving Private Ryan or Top Gun Maverick. I'm way more entertained by these kind of movies than those rather dark, gritty and realistic movies. Not to be mistaken, I still enjoy the more realistic movies but watching "All quiet on the western front" made me feel like shi* and obviously thats not a kind of entertainment that you want to enjoy regularly. At the end of the day, movies are made to entertain you, give you a good time.

[@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330]

@@robertsears8323 can’t have everything right 🤷🏻‍♂️ better he likes this than Hurt Locker.

[@williamflowers9435]

@@robertsears8323 they don’t stay 100% accurate but they get a lot of things right, too. The Panzerfaust was depicted accurately for a change and they did a great job of catching to feel of being cramped inside a tank with 4 other dirty people

[@robertsears8323]

@@williamflowers9435 I guess I tried to watch the movie once but 5 minuets into the movie they did some stupid BS that would have never happened in real life and I got very pissed and I have hated this movie ever since.

[@turtledovechen176]

I never served on a tank,but I did study them in university I think the biggest difference of tank back then and now days,are the night vision which let tanks fight at night, gun stabilizer that makes firing on the move easier, all kinds of camera ,senser and computer that helps tanker fight,and all kinds of data links that helps tanker communicat with people all over the battlefield Other than those,I think the basic principle of tanks are still the same,a big track vehicle with big gun and is really hard to kill

[@JayDubb3BCT]

Fury is one of my favorite movies of all time! Great one to review to start the new years off right! Happy New Year Boys! 🤘🏼🇺🇸

[@robertsears8323]

Only a good movie if you don't care about them being historically accurate.

[@JayDubb3BCT]

@@robertsears8323 it's a movie .. it's entertainment. Nothing more than that....

[@mantis_toboggan_md]

@Robert Sears How many times you going to comment that same thing?

[@toddjenest3212]

"Fury" has to be THE best war movie next to "Saving Private Ryan."

[@BrokeSpike]

I can see. You've never heard of "Come and See."

[@victortorres1585]

Black hawk down is awesome to

[@sabadodomingo1293]

Definitely gonna get me a pair of your boots. Serving in the navy made me appreciate a good quality boot and timberland is my absolute favorite. You guys using the same factory cant wait to see how they turn out

[@umbracusto]

At 43:32, the host nails the idea laid out in the bible verse: "John 15:13 '13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.'" And I am so happy to see the Bible and it's teaching come to life in modern day, even though I haven't been a regular churchgoer in 5 years

[@CaptainCan06]

Absoluetly love this movie, and hearing your guys breakdown on this makes it even more enjoyable. I always thought the dinner scene was the worst part of the movie, but your explaination makes me want to re-watch it now. Thanks so much guys.

[@derekray2683]

Love watching you comments you bring a different point of view to life and death. Those that fought before you did the same.

[@intricateinc8566]

Happy New Year FNG crew. Fury is a great movie just re-watched it last week

[@jakester455]

Check out T-34, it's really an amazing film and I think better/more realistic in many ways than Fury. I prefer the Russian (undubbed) version. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZKkYZeMr6ippJI

[@TB-zf7we]

I thought this latest version was the weakest of all the films of the book, despite the capabilities of modern film production.

[@intricateinc8566]

@@TB-zf7we Movies never live up to books because books are your precise personification of events happening inside your mind and a movie is someone else's ideas, another persons vision mixed with yet another's creative directive. I try not to judge movies off of books. I have not seen any other Colin Falconer adaptations

[@lexicon008]

the last scene where you were talking about the gun in hand...you have to realize this was a time when PTSD was not a recognized thing. They called it shell shock but it had no diagnosis in literature. It is only in the last few decades that PTSD has been a recognized diagnosis for soldiers and other alike. They may have let him keep his gun because they had no reason to feel they needed to take it away

[@siriponpleekhan7420]

Hello guys, I'm a fan from Thailand. Thank you for make great video for us to watch.👊🏻🇹🇭🙏🏻

[@jamesfiles4314]

As an EMT a few years ago, we would use a Thomas guide to route to a call. The mobile data terminal had a Thomas guide grid reference in accordance with the call. It was relatively easy once you got the hang of it. I made sure every new hire was proficient in it because it was the last resort to find the location. Abel, the Thomas guide still exists.

[@gregharbin3531]

Great movie and your evaluation of the meal scene is spot on. New to your channel, but liking what I'm seeing. Keep up the good work and Happy New Year.

[@tolkky7940]

Here we go again. Every German soldier was a Nazi. How many times have I heard this? Greetings from a proud German.

[@calebray4168]

I love this movie. Legendary cast, instant classic. Brutal and beautiful.

[@valofalconery]

There is a deleted scene on KZbin where Jon's character Grady cracks and admits hes really struggling and wants to quit to Brad Pitt's character. it really humanises his character. Well worth checking out if you get a few free minutes.

[@tacticion5163]

You guys should do a breakdown of some combat scenes of Clear and Present Danger.

[@DougMcilvenna]

That’s a great assessment of officer asking NCO,s for advice 👍👍

[@jesseparisi8599]

it would be great to see you guys do breakdowns over a band of brothers or the pacific. Since they are both mini-series it would give you guys the ability to review each episode. That's a lot of content for you guys.

[@angryjackalx]

The Pacific wes awesome!

[@arthuryoung9742]

Little info after your chat regarding GPS, I installed first-generation Trimble units in the 10th Aviation brigade UH-60s & AH-1s. While working as a contractor at Ft. Drum prior to their deployment to Somalia, KFOR, and Haiti starting in 1993. They were big boxy units that used a separate antenna mounted on top of the aircraft.

[@therealkevan8158]

Happy new year , another great episode . Fury reminds me of episode 8 of Band Of Brothers when they have to cross the river, and everyone's sick and cold and tired of war

[@toastymarket4089]

As someone from outside the US (guns are strictly controlled in my country), I had the guns discussion with an American friend of mine, out of all the things he said, one thing rang true. The American constitution was made by the people and for the people and thus it's the people's duty to defend the constitution that binds them all in the freedoms it grants. Governments come and Governments go, the people remain and, in the end, the care of the people we love is our personal responsibility. I cannot think of any argument against that logic, and I argue for a living.

[@stevenmuniz1014]

Thank you for your service, i love watching you two break down movies from the unrealistic to the real. With this movie I felt that Brad Pitts character connecting with the younger solider at the dinner scene was my favorite part of the movie, so many emotions in that scene. The part that i most appreciated in that scene is when Jon Bernthal licks the egg from that girls plate but Brad Pitt switches plates with her and starts eating the egg not giving a shit about someone else's saliva being on it, almost like he was saying "You're my boy but fuck you! You're not ruining this moment for me!" And then of course after that everyone on the team starts to open up to each other... brilliant moment of that movie.

[@Bioshockaholic]

I think that table/egg scene is made even more potent, after the young kid and the foreign girl have “alone time” prior. It’s one last “goodbye” of sorts to a normal, loving part of life. Then the guys, bringing all their terror and trauma, cement their positions in reality once again

[@Gilleban]

Ah, the Thomas Guide...a book so thick I used to jokingly refer to them as "the Metronomicon" because whipping one out felt like consulting some ancient arcane tome, but I also always found them to be the most reliable vehicle navigation guide out there until phones came out with GPS pre-loaded, and even then I still draw maps based on GPS info (I prefer Paper Positioning System) as relying on GPS may not load on some roads in a useful time frame, aren't practical to use (sunlight obscuring the screen, or not hearing the info quickly enough for it to be useful). I never once got lost with a Thomas Guide...Mapquest got me lost 4 out of the 7 times I used it because of offramps that didn't exist, Google Maps not having the most current info on road construction, or other mayhem.

[@andrewlynch9971]

It’s likely that beer has lactose milk sugar in it. If so, Buck has an awesome pallet. Some breweries know how to use lactose in their IPAs and Stouts, but A LOT do not. It is gross when they don’t.

[@jmckittrick1]

I've been a paramedic/ firefighter since 2002. We used an ADC map book for 911 calls regularly until 2015 maybe. We hammered the rookies with ADC map drills the same way you guys described. We were expected to memorize main answer secondary roads which made the map book easier

[@zdocholliday]

My grandfather said, when he went to Vietnam his Sgt. told him the day he arrived in country he would walk point for the squad while they were on patrol. Their previous point man was KIA. He told him "I don't know anything about walking point." to which the Sgt. replied, "You will learn, if you live long enough."

[@onylra6265]

GOS was a thing in the 90s, but it was a real pain in the ass most of the time. The .50 gunner was making a 'beaten zone', which is basically using an MG as indirect fire to deny an area, not sure if they still train this - glad you pointed this out. My grandfather was pretty honest that they'd light-up any Germans that they captured holding any of their shit, even a pack of smokes - because it usually meant they'd looted some of their mates' bodies; there was an attitude that they didn't get to kill their guys and get to fuck off to some cushy camp while they had to keep fighting and probably dying. That's probably one of the realest parts you don't see much - they could surrender without putting up a fight, or die. It wasn't sporting, allied soldiers were far more ruthless than is often portrayed in media.

[@renpope1210]

My father was 1-1 of Team Iowa CCC in Vietnam and I had the chance to meet his LT 1-0. I had a chance to sit down and talk to him about being an special operations team leader as an LT. I learned more about leadership in that one hour than I did in 4 years of officer training.

[@christinemagand6353]

One of the best reviews you've done lads, very thoughtful insight into the psyche of battle hardened troops versus the "rookie".

[@samvojtech1153]

My dad taught me about Thomas guide! I saw this movie in the theater & it has never been the same! I left with goosebumps. I loved the authenticity of both the the Americans & the Germans. Great movie & breakdown, Men!

[@christopherwilson5054]

I loved this movie also. I was not a tanker, but I feel this is probably as close as we are going to get to some semblance of what it was like in a WW2 tank from a movie.

[@terpgomer]

I served in the Marine Corps infantry from 81-85. We first started using GPS in 1985, and it was the size of a laptop computer and only gave you a 10 digit grid coordinate

[@swift82-pilot]

“Best job I’ve ever had” my response anytime someone thanks me for my service. Really throws them off sometimes. Then they ask what I do and I tell them I fly Black Hawks…they get it.

[@didyouseethat9847]

Also, this movie painted a perfect picture of what being in a tank was like - my great uncle was in the 5th Canadian Armoured Regiment and was killed in Italy in 1942. You can smell the inside of that tank and just how terrifying it would be to be trapped in a metal coffin.

[@Stretch1931]

Guns debate -- wow, that's a hard one. I don't own any guns, but have been raised in a veteran family and taken on hunting trips, and done some plinking. But I truly in my own opinion of course believe that it's not the firearms that are the problem. It starts with the vetting process, which has become more relaxed than ever, and the proper teaching requirements to make sure everyone that owns one really knows all the best ways to use it, like something Instructor Zero would teach you -- how to load and shoot with your non-dominant hand if you were injured, how to shoot through vehicles, how to keep your mind sharp with number/color/shape mixings of objects, etc. And also the big one -- how to properly educate everyone in the household how to handle a weapon. Just locking it away or telling them they aren't allowed to touch it is nonsense. All kids will be curious and find a way to get their hands on that specific one, or one of their friends' weapons, and end up hurting themselves or someone else if they're not properly educated on all the handling, usage, etc. So as they always say -- guns don't kill people. People kill people. And to add the idea of less guns -- If someone wants to harm others, they're going to find a way. In other countries to where guns are banned or hard to get, there are stabbings. You can make IEDs or molotov cocktails. Where there's a will, there's a way. Crazy people will do crazy things no matter what. They can do like that one person did, and drive a car through a crowded street of protestors and use it as a weapon of mass destruction. The removal of guns won't eliminate all those other threats or make the streets safer.

[@chosen452-GwT]

The original version of FURY was different than what they ended up releasing. Norman was some kind of psychic who could tell when people were going to die, i.e. the palm reading scene. Brad Pitt ended up in the war because he had a wreck while driving drunk and it killed the love of his life and her brother. While Brad Pitt was healing from the burns caused in the wreck America joined the war so when he finally stood before the judge he was giving the option of going to fight so you can kind of see more of what he meant by saying "this is my home" in the final battle at the end because he knew the war was almost over and he did not want to go home and face everyone after what he had done. I think what they released probably turned out much better than that storyline would have.

[@555banzai]

Tanks have changed phenomenally, being an allied tanker in ww2 you'd expect a fatality rate upwards of 90% due to inadequate armour/ underpowered armament (largely but not always, fury has the late war 76mm HV gun which was actually a pretty reliable tank killer). These days NATO tanks at least have classified laminated armour types, applique armour types, hard and soft kill countermeasure electronics ; targeting systems; smooth bore guns and so forth, so now they are complete death dealing machines. In other words the tanks of today don't even compare

[@themocaw]

Shermans actually had a decent casualty rate for the crew. An average of 1 casualty per tank lost. They did not have as good a record of tank survivability.

[@sargoodwin]

Thomas Guides were a part of every road trip as a kid. They used to be on all our fire apparatus until they stopped making them. Miss those things

[@ickess]

My dad drove a tank in Korea during Vietnam. Always tells a story of them crossing a river during a rain storm and the tank starts to fill with water. Said he went in reverse and floored it. Said he went half way up the hill behind them before they got him to stop

[@donavandwelch]

There is no greater gift one can bestow, than to lay your life down for your fellow man.

[@petesjk]

Thomas Guides sound like the Gazeteers that I used. They were my goto maps for backcountry travel because they had every road and trail on them, and they were accurate. They also had gps grids, so I could double check difficult resupply locations with my hiking gps. Hiking size gps units at that time only gave you the numbers, you didn’t get any terrain maps or even color screens, it was just black and white with dots and lines as a record for wherever you went and marked.

[@codenamedingo6271]

Idk if you guys have done this review yet, but All Quiet on the Western Front would be a good one for you guys to review. Great review, Fury is definitely one of my top favorite war movies. They really paid attention to some of the finer details that one can appreciate.

[@clarkabrpi3428]

David "Sting" Rae was the military advisor for Fury. He served in the British Army for 22 years (1991-2013), eventually reaching the rank of Warrant Officer Class 1 and the appointment of Regimental Sergeant Major. The highest ranking enlisted position for the British military. He served in an armoured recon regiment, the Light Dragoons, with which he deployed on eight different tours: four in Bosnia, one in Iraq, and three in Afghanistan. When we spoke on the phone this week, he casually mentioned that he's currently in Iraq, where he's doing contract work

[@ryangrant7558]

You guys absolutely have to check out 'All Quiet on the Western Front'. It's a brutally realistic portrayal of combat in WW1 and captures how devastating the war was.

[@FRANK45CASTLE]

Im a former infantry guy and you got all bases covered on all aspects of this film and as far as war too. Also, hes walking those .50 rounds out, they will fall on em. I worked with tanks and bradleys in Iraq, they crush the battlefield. trust me on that. i think fury is the best war movie ever.

[@brycefelperin]

I did a gig as a taxi driver in the late 1980s using the Thomas guides for getting around in LA. Now with GPS its easy , then it was a pain.

[@peterhilligoss5697]

This movie was actually what convinced to me to join as a tanker. Partially for the "cool" factor of tanks, and partially because walking like an infantry didn't seem like my cup of tea. But I realized the best part is the comradery you form with the rest of your crew.

[@jamesbelshan8839]

49:10 Similar to pilots, especially test pilots. They sound so calm right before they crash because they are simply evaluating their options and flying the plane accordingly. Until flying is removed from the list of options.

[@MonumentToSin]

At 28:50 the German "soldier" that Norm is forced to shoot is part of the Hitler Youth, which means he was probably barely 15 or 16. Just a kid that was handed a uniform and pushed to the frontlines because Germany was running out of men to send into battle. Sure, he might have been raised to believe in the Nazis ideology, but he was no SS officer. "Blooding rookies" is sadly a common practice in SF forces around the world, and can easily lead a unit down a dark path. Australian SAS has recently been investigated and charged with war crimes in Afghanistan - the first time in history that any Australian soldier has been charged with war crimes, let alone nearly an entire SAS unit. Among other war crime allegations, they "blooded" their rookies by making them take their first kills on captured POWs, and those that refused to cooperate were beaten and bullied into submission. There's a fine line between disciplined soldiers and cruel murderers, and that sort of culture only weeds out the good guys.

[@ta392srtchallenger5]

I started driving when I was 16. 60 now the first thing I bought was a U.S Atlas map and learned real quick how to use it. The first thing that I learned was, what direction am I going in without a compass. The second thing you learn is the scale of miles and how to read them. My father was a WW2 Marine combat veteran that covered the whole South pacific, served 20. My uncle was a Green Beret major who served around the world. He enlisted in the army in 1959 served 25. They had no problem teaching you how to read a map, whether you like it or not. Their idea of teaching you how to swim when you are five is by throwing you in a 10.5 ft deepend of a pool and telling you you'll figure it out. Yeah I figured it out. Within 10 minutes I was jumping off into the deepend. I wish they were still alive so they could be on your show. ❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️

[@piperp9535]

Asked for our take on the homemaker scene ... if a person doesn't have the experiences to draw on, they don't have anything to relate this too, it's a tough one to get. Most people I think will just see it on the surface, and not see what's behind it. I don't think they'll get how badly Brad Pit's character wants to experience something normal, to remember what normal is, to know that there's hope that he can return to a life without war and be something other than what he is. He just got through making Norman kill a prisoner, because he had to do that. Is there salvation?

[@richrodriguez8520]

Its Michael Pena. Try wild turkey rare. If you like the woodford reserve, youll really like this. Thank you , both of you, for your service

[@senseiernesto86]

That came all the way from left field! “I’ll come into your max effective range”. I expect that from Buck. 😂😂😂

[@JSp4wN]

I had to use the Thomas guide for the first 10 years of my career in construction. I'm glad I learned how to use one because when shtf I'll still be able to navigate.

[@kengoodman7719]

Thomas Guide! I remember when I was either in 8th or 9th grade, I drove back East with my uncle, from CA to NY going E on 80 and we came back via 1 S to 40 W. My uncle was a WWII USMC veteran. I had, along with clearing the septic tanks, making sure we got fresh water, breaking out all of the gear and putting it away when we stopped, etc, etc "junk jobs", the responsibility for manning the Thomas Guide. In retrospect, he provided one of my best Summer educations ever on that journey. When we would be getting close to a town, or if he decided we were going to stop at some historical site, or he might tell me to look for historical places to visit - it was my responsibility to find it and navigate to the location. God Bless!

[@99PMoon]

I loved being a tanker. There was no other feeling being 1/4th of an organisim with a target plastered on your back. GPS: We were tasked with testing out the first @Hoensfels. Only the officers were trusted to use the GPS. On the night test (no starlight), we were following the B-1 tank (the Lt.). We started driving up an extreme angle. If anyone that is familiar with the terrain, 'Old Baldy' is a major feature. This GPS assumed that we could drive over 'Old Baldy'. Technology has come has come so far from the '90's.

[@Dannywhittle257]

That story you told about keep feeding nades to that cowboy😅sounds like me playing medal of honor warfighter 😂I've had to do that to end up completing on veteran difficulty ,kept asking voodoo for nades against the technicals on the level shut it down ,literally right at the end of the game ,my advice is bring your own nades to that cowboy ,its like turning up to to gunfight with a catapult and a rolling pin ,like "dude, what you planning ?"

[@BirdDogey1]

All tankers spit up their beer when the tanks form a line and intentionally cross an open field to engage 88s' Love the end when they wipe out an SS battalion. Okay...sure.

[@Tony.795]

Don't forget the AT guns scene, where they faced well camouflaged guns that had taken out vehicles a short time before at the same range the Shermans were at. Yet, they make it through unscathed.