Green Energy Is Cheaper…So Why Aren’t We Using It?

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Second Thought

Second Thought

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@aaronstewart3352
@aaronstewart3352 Жыл бұрын
I work in a pharmacy. This gels with what is going on in the industry. Rn, there’s a massive shortage on cancer drug generics. They cost almost nothing to make, but pharmaceutical companies have simply stopped producing them, bc they do not net the companies enough profit. Let me underscore the point: they aren’t cutting production, bc they’re *losing* profit; they’re doing so bc they’re not earning *enough* profit. On cancer drugs. Welcome to America.
@ChineseKiwi
@ChineseKiwi Жыл бұрын
And because of that, the FDA recently has approved importation of those generics from China. This is more a case of over reliance on one supplier.
@ChineseKiwi
@ChineseKiwi Жыл бұрын
And the Indian supplier the supplies 1/2 the genetics to the US was caught with contamination issues **and literally shredding documents stating their dodgy QA issues** Rampant capitalism is bad enough. We don’t need additional propaganda like this.
@aaronstewart3352
@aaronstewart3352 Жыл бұрын
@@johnshafer7214 doesn’t mean we can’t take away the profit motive for key industries. Doesn’t mean we pull the “Ah, shucks, criminals will exist anyways, best leave things as they are” card.
@ChineseKiwi
@ChineseKiwi Жыл бұрын
@@TheOfficialArthurMorgan or both extremes bad, middle good mmmmmk. You are literally using the Internet based on socialism based things like net neturality, and open source software, set regulations and standards and freeware. Try again. - Also a badly led government command economy with a LOT of corruption and financial mismangement in Venzuela isn't 'socialism'.
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ Жыл бұрын
To be fair, it does make sense, it's the opportunity-cost issue. For example, if you invest $5m to spend 2 years making a movie that returns $10 in profits to you, was that worth it? You could have invested that $5m in a stock and made $100,000 in 6 months instead. "Profit" doesn't necessarily mean "must do". Big Pharma is no different, they're going to spend their money on things that will make more profits. But, Big Pharma shouldn't be for-profit in the first place. 😒
@thoughtprism2963
@thoughtprism2963 Жыл бұрын
If these companies could somehow lock access to the sun behind a subscription model, they would.
@marcusnguginganga2829
@marcusnguginganga2829 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like something that would be in the Lorax movie
@spencervance8484
@spencervance8484 Жыл бұрын
@@marcusnguginganga2829 isaac arthur said about putting thousands if not millions of uv blocking satellites between us and the sun. Never have to worry about global heating again
@michaeladkins6
@michaeladkins6 Жыл бұрын
Didnt Mr Burns do that?
@RipMinner
@RipMinner Жыл бұрын
They don't need any new ideals. I'm 100% sure there working on that and air and water.
@spencervance8484
@spencervance8484 Жыл бұрын
@@RipMinner ideas not ideals. Easy mistake but large difference in meaning
@TheExecutiveBanana
@TheExecutiveBanana Жыл бұрын
It's incredibly frustrating that the reason these big energy companies won't invest in renewables isn't that it won't make them money, but it won't make them enough money over an arbitrary percentage they want.
@ianbelanger7459
@ianbelanger7459 Жыл бұрын
From an economic perspective, the problem isn't just that a few big companies are against it from an arbitrary profit perspective. The problem is that the few big companies are the whole energy market. Companies that control more than about 5 percent of the market can survive by simply using their position in the market to make money. As more players enter the market, this profit standard is impossible to maintain as the newcomers have no legacy infrastructure (pipeline or tankers) and can accept a smaller percentage of profit.
@Moosemoose1
@Moosemoose1 Жыл бұрын
@@ianbelanger7459 The problem is that those new players are just as greedy as the big players, and as time goes on and competition plays out, there will be new big winners who will do the same thing. Relying on the greed of small capitalists to keep the greed of large capitalists in check is the dumbest, most self-defeating means of keeping things affordable when you can just get rid of competition and profit motive completely and just develop sustainable energy infrastructure as needed, without requiring private incentive through central planning. We don't need people motivated by money to get things done, necessity is the mother of innovation and production. So long as we continue to let the market decide what gets built, our entire society will be at the mercy of these greedy psychopaths, just end it already - human civilization survived without capitalism before, it can do so again.
@ErvigHenry
@ErvigHenry Жыл бұрын
I completely understand your frustration. It's unfortunate that some big energy companies prioritize profits over the benefits of investing in renewable energy. On a positive note, there are innovative products like the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series that offer long-lasting power for outdoor adventures and home backup. You might find it useful for your outdoor camping or family time activities.
@kthwkr
@kthwkr Жыл бұрын
No. The reason they don't invest in renewables is because this video is a total lie. And they know it.
@gabbar51ngh
@gabbar51ngh 11 ай бұрын
Similar to how employees won't work for lower wages when asked for?
@MemphisHills
@MemphisHills Жыл бұрын
A quote I often find myself going back to when issues like this happen, and I feel really sums up our current problems; "We can solve our problems, but it's not clear that we can solve our problems and get rich at the same time, and that is the current requirement for all solutions." -Terence McKenna
@magne7771
@magne7771 Жыл бұрын
What if the options were "Solve the problem, or else" Sincerely, someone who values the continuation of the human race over anything else- upto & including _every_ rich capitalist who responds with _the wrong answer._
@MemphisHills
@MemphisHills Жыл бұрын
@@magne7771 oh I agree, the people who control the power however, see it differently.
@magne7771
@magne7771 Жыл бұрын
@@MemphisHills Where's Batman when you need 'em. Nothin' works quite like being woken up in the night by a spooky, jacked, six-foot tall otherkin in your bedroom, and being TOLD what'cher gonna do from then on.
@yuki-sakurakawa
@yuki-sakurakawa Жыл бұрын
​@@magne7771 Batman is a bourgie with his own butler, car, plane, etc. Spending money on his projects, not on making the city better (aka hiring more and better police, anti-corruption commission, looking into why villains are doing what they're doing and addressing those issues). He's essentially Elon Musk.
@kiltedcripple
@kiltedcripple Жыл бұрын
Terence was a bright guy
@hello7032
@hello7032 Жыл бұрын
Every ecologist/environmental person I know is just like “the current system and structure of society has to change to mitigate climate change” Then you have all the tech bros, comms majors, business majors, gym bros and realtors saying that we’re wrong and a little bit of improvement is some massive step.
@5th_decile
@5th_decile Жыл бұрын
Yes, or worse, can someone explain me what is a 'steakholder'?
@5th_decile
@5th_decile Жыл бұрын
I have nightmares where I'm stuck with Johnny Harris who's ranting on about 'steakholders'... What does it mean??
@hello7032
@hello7032 Жыл бұрын
@@5th_decile idk man I can’t help, I have no clue what that really means either. For me it’s just about the people and protecting life I thought that was simple enough but apparently not for economy bros!
@ChiliForEveryone
@ChiliForEveryone Жыл бұрын
One who holds the steaks, as opposed to us proletariat who can only hold some cheapass burger from a cheapass fastfood chain 😂😂
@hello7032
@hello7032 Жыл бұрын
@@ChiliForEveryone shoot I don’t even eat red meat what does that make me lol
@HansLemurson
@HansLemurson Жыл бұрын
I remember realizing that part of the pushback against solar power was that it was too hard to monopolize and control. A large power station, whether coal, gas, nuclear or hydro, is a piece of centralized infrastructure, the control of which grants the owner great power and leverage. But if anybody can just build a solar farm, or put panels on their roof? How do you control that? How do you exploit that?
@HocusPocus6969
@HocusPocus6969 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct. Imagine a naturally occurring herb that cured certain forms of cancer…..can’t monopolize it and it potentially could render certain drugs worthless. Value to society, incalculable, value to capitalism, catastrophic.
@zombieminecraft4213
@zombieminecraft4213 Жыл бұрын
You make the panels too expensive for regular people.
@isomilo
@isomilo Жыл бұрын
you blow sun up
@zzz-nu2re
@zzz-nu2re Жыл бұрын
Utilities make time of use rates, now everyone producing cheap solar all at the same time get less money. Simple supply and demand
@philipdamask2279
@philipdamask2279 Жыл бұрын
Next the public gets to enjoy an unreliable power supply. Maybe financing batteries is your next personal investment. What kind of return would you like to get?
@lucysour
@lucysour Жыл бұрын
It's honestly so painful to know these things and yet everyday go about your life in this system and try not to freak out.
@timmy-wj2hc
@timmy-wj2hc Жыл бұрын
@pradapunk centuries of propaganda by the rich.
@trenhen4311
@trenhen4311 Жыл бұрын
@@timmy-wj2hc I lose every inch of life in me when I see someone fall for the most blatant anti left psyops. It’s even worse when u point it out but and they proceed to keep regurgitating the propaganda they’ve been fed.
@Geniethegraet
@Geniethegraet Жыл бұрын
It's pretty hard some days to not freak out. Like, honestly, I'm studying for a Masters degree, and it's kind of like planning for a future that doesn't appear to exist.
@Geniethegraet
@Geniethegraet Жыл бұрын
@@TheOfficialArthurMorgan Oh no, I've spotted a wild cunt, whatever shall I do.....
@ytmld
@ytmld Жыл бұрын
@@TheOfficialArthurMorgan lmaoo
@MindEyeMediaVR
@MindEyeMediaVR Жыл бұрын
Profitability over sustainability? That's not economics--that's a death pact.
@erkinalp
@erkinalp Жыл бұрын
* and a surrender pact
@stevechance150
@stevechance150 Жыл бұрын
CEOs typically move on to their next company every five years. So we end up with a laser focus on Short Term Profits. (We're doomed).
@TreeHairedGingerAle
@TreeHairedGingerAle Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Exactly that. Devotion to capitalism equals devotion to death. The death of all life (via killing the earth), and of the human/humane spirit (which capitalist systems continue to murder via alienation, fascism, unnecessary suffering, unnecessary competition; and the pure exhaustion of constant, often unnecessary, labor).
@Toastcat890
@Toastcat890 Жыл бұрын
Honestly humans going extinct will be a great boon for the planet.
@thatsallfolks436
@thatsallfolks436 Жыл бұрын
it's both tbh
@jamesshepherd1995
@jamesshepherd1995 Жыл бұрын
Norway is 95% hydro and also made large investments in renewables. The result was negative electricity prices during sunny and windy hours... lol
@kiranreilly4916
@kiranreilly4916 Жыл бұрын
This means they have to pay neighboring states to take their excess load and is one of the interesting aspects of having a wind and solar power economy that doesn't get brought up enough.
@russellcompton4405
@russellcompton4405 11 ай бұрын
Having worked in Norway, they have hundreds of natural hydroelectric dams, in a small country that has the ability to fund renewable energy from hydrocarbon profits. Their national oil and gas company continues to expand exploration and production development offshore.
@chubiforever1
@chubiforever1 10 ай бұрын
@@russellcompton4405 Why does no one say this
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 10 ай бұрын
Because hydro is reliable and actually makes sense. Wind and solar are expensive and make no sense.
@otbot8925
@otbot8925 Жыл бұрын
"there is no capitalist path to climate justice" sums it up pretty well
@remcovanhartevelt588
@remcovanhartevelt588 Жыл бұрын
Sad but true, but however you slice it green initiatives make money so it is profitable to at least pretend to care.
@jose.montojah
@jose.montojah Жыл бұрын
Remember "infinite growth" is a strategy that dries up colonies of different species on Petri dishes
@nolan4339
@nolan4339 Жыл бұрын
That is why we often set up public systems to implement regulations and have cooperatives and public corporations competing in market areas where there is a high need to provide the service but indeterminate levels of profitability. However, keeping an entry to private competition within these market areas is also very important, as a government monopoly can cause as much stagnation as a private one can lead to exploitation.
@jaxvoice718
@jaxvoice718 Жыл бұрын
​@krauses4189Burning fossil fuels, not capitalism, caused the problem in the first place. The Soviet bloc and Maoist China were even worse than the capitalist West. Capitalism is neither the cause or the cure in itself.
@MrMentalpuppy
@MrMentalpuppy Жыл бұрын
No it doesn't, the margins will improve, and companies will shift. We are probably 3-5 years away from a shift.
@Joshua-Studies
@Joshua-Studies Жыл бұрын
Kind of odd that they were able to set profitability goals right outside the range of the product. It's almost like they studied it awhile back and hid it from the public -.-
@fkhan2006
@fkhan2006 Жыл бұрын
right?! they made the profit margins just high enough so it couldn't be generated through investing in solar...
@kkirschkk
@kkirschkk Жыл бұрын
actually 8-12% ROI is considered on the extreme low end of most intensive capital industries minimal ROI requirements. Generally they want ROIs of 15-30% [average of 20%], so its not that out there.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
@@kkirschkkROI and product profit margins are not the same.
@RosscoAW
@RosscoAW Жыл бұрын
No, 8% is literally just the minimum expected annual rate of return for stock equity. If they do not have an 8% (minimum) ROI year-over-year, then their shareholders sell their shares. Because that's the average rate of annual return for every/any given stock, a minimum of 8%. Any company that fails to meet that will see divestment and underinvestment from shareholders. Remember, the shareholders that corporations are responsible to are not specific shareholders of they're company. They're random individuals that probably don't even know they own that stock, whose portfolio is being managed by a financial institution, who makes all of their decisions for their delegated shares according to -- you guessed it -- comparisons to the annual expected 8% return minimum. It's not some act of maliciousness on the part of the corporation, or any of it's agents, it's merely capitalism doing capitalism and being capitalist. None of it, not a shred of it, not an ounce of it, is mal-intentioned or evil or "people being nefarious." None of. None of it at all. It's merely a system *being the system that it was designed to be.*
@NothingXemnas
@NothingXemnas Жыл бұрын
​@@RosscoAW Perhaps most aggravating is that, because shareholders are all no-name people, they are easy to hide in the grand scheme. Movements and political action tend to flame, blame and jail CEOs, COOs, presidents, senators, but never the ones actually pulling these strings.
@BonjobyBasketball
@BonjobyBasketball Жыл бұрын
I work for an urban and regional planning consultancy in Australia and do approvals for lots of renewable projects. We are finding that Solar farm projects often stall prior to construction phase in isolation, however, they are extremely popular when they are being relied upon to directly power specific projects. For example, there is a large rush towards green hydrogen and ammonia production in Australia currently. These projects require lots of power to opperate. It is generally more cost-effective to develop a solar farm next to one of these projects rather than upgrading existing infrastructure and purchasing power from the grid. There is hope for Renewables yet.
@corneliuscorcoran9900
@corneliuscorcoran9900 Жыл бұрын
I'm really excited about what is happening with renewables in Oz right now. I hope it will show that it is possible to go from global sluggard, to world leader, in maybe ten, fifteen years. So many natural advantages.
@stanleytolle416
@stanleytolle416 Жыл бұрын
This is a good use of solar in that it does not matter when the power is produced for these applications in that the product is storable and the main issue is the cost of the power.
@msimon6808
@msimon6808 Жыл бұрын
Dispatchability is why renewables without storage are hopeless. And with storage too expensive. Unless you have an already built dam nearby.
@msimon6808
@msimon6808 Жыл бұрын
@@pavelvodnar3206 Also Dispatchability
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
The 3 last factories i was involved with as well as 4 out of 5 upcoming contracts involve having a solar farm to ensure supply (and possibly sell some) i'm currently finishing up work on a steel mill in the philippines that is planning to mostly rely on capacitors and solar to run their EAFs. only places in the philippines up until recently where steel mills could even be built due to cost issues were the oil ports and now it's viable across the country with a bit of effort.
@lebaronmarcus
@lebaronmarcus Жыл бұрын
I've been an engineer in the renewable energy field for 15 years, and I'd never heard this problem expressed so clearly. Thank you Second Thought!
@marxistopiateaddict
@marxistopiateaddict Жыл бұрын
thank you for doing what you do king/queen/they/themperor
@bronzedivision
@bronzedivision Жыл бұрын
Why have you wasted 15 years of your life on that sham? Most people can figure out in a few hours of back of the envelope calculations that renewables will never work.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could develop a form of scalable, non-site-specific energy storage method that doesn't cost 10X to 100X more than current electricity. Because that's what's holding renewables back. Not some conspiracy.
@bronzedivision
@bronzedivision Жыл бұрын
@@gregorymalchuk272 hahahaha That's physically impossible. Which is good because storing energy is a dumb. But the fact that you need it as a prerequisite is just another example of the truth of what's holding back renewable power. And that's renewable power being a dumb idea that does not and never will work. It isn't any sort of conspiracy. It's just basic science that they're utter shit and not useful. And that's all that matters, renewable power is a dumb, useless and impossible idea.
@jhpjhun
@jhpjhun Жыл бұрын
We switched from water power to steam power because it was more exploitable? Very creative take to say the least. We switched to coal because it was a superior source of energy compared to water which was only used as mills at specific locations. There was no such thing as a large scale water-powered factory back in those days. And solar not being popular is not due to “capitalist motives”. We have material restrictions, energy storage restrictions, geographic restrictions, and economic restrictions. If you build a massive solar plant in let’s say, Germany, for example, oops. Germany barely gets clear skies which lower the solar efficiency massively. Even if they produced a massive solar energy surplus, they have no way to store it. Also, who pays for the solar panels? Those solar panels are certainly not going to pay themselves off anytime soon in Germany. People need to stop treating renewables like they are the magical answer to all of our future issues. Except for superior geographical locations such as California all the way to Texas, solar can’t even pay off its carbon emissions that cost to build it in the first place. And yes, contrary to popular belief, Texas is massively investing in solar because it just makes economic sense there. Turns out, capitalism works when the environment supports it.
@Prownilo
@Prownilo Жыл бұрын
"Why won't we save the planet?" "Because I can get richer by killing it"
@07Flash11MRC
@07Flash11MRC Жыл бұрын
The capitalist elite getting us all k!lled is our very own fault. We the people need to put an end to this before they put an end to us.
@SilverGamingFI
@SilverGamingFI Жыл бұрын
"Why don't we switch from oil and coal to solar and wind?" "because they will make us lose 1 penny of profit in 300 years"
@titanproductions6350
@titanproductions6350 Жыл бұрын
​@bullymaguire5193 lmao nuclear blows fossil fuels out of the water as a long term backup and even main source
@TheCoolChrisShow
@TheCoolChrisShow Жыл бұрын
@@TheOfficialArthurMorgan Texas does not run completely off of green energy. It still relies a lot on coal and gas. The grid failing during Winter Storm Uri in 2021 was largely because of "natural" gas power plants failing -- they were not properly weatherized and thus couldn't stay on. Solar and wind are variable, but they don't have to be less reliable if we pair them with battery storage. Coal plants are shutting down nationwide because the cost of polluting the local environments are too high. We need to do the same with gas power plants, but that will take some time until we have enough renewables (and perhaps nuclear) to fully replace it.
@Apheleion
@Apheleion Жыл бұрын
@@TheOfficialArthurMorgan Texas is not set to the standard of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) like the rest of the country and since they have their own energy council Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) they did not winterize their wind and solar energy equipment that FERC sets as a standard for the rest of the country. Solar and wind makes up to 26% of their energy. Wild weather is happening more and more around the country and world now because of global warming caused by the excess use of fossil fuels, leading to the freak winter storms in the south.
@leaguemastergg3647
@leaguemastergg3647 Жыл бұрын
16:07 There are a lot of problems with hydro power as well, although they tend to be more insidious. Like fewer nutrients in rivers lowering fish populations, less sediment in the rivers decreasing farm fertility, and causing river deltas to shrink which then causes local wildlife populations to decline, increased flooding and ocean pollution because the deltas basically function like a sponge soaking up water and pollution.
@stanleytolle416
@stanleytolle416 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that hydro power tends to kill allot of people now and then.
@SinHurr
@SinHurr Жыл бұрын
@@stanleytolle416 But still probably fewer people than coal, cumulatively
@williamwontiam3166
@williamwontiam3166 Жыл бұрын
I mean, that’s a problem for after the adrenaline rush of climate change. We do need to deal with that eventually though.
@stanleytolle416
@stanleytolle416 Жыл бұрын
@@williamwontiam3166 In China I think it was 1/4 million or more in one go hydro mess up.
@stanleytolle416
@stanleytolle416 Жыл бұрын
@@JaceDeanLove one was the Banqiao Dam Failure of 1975. The government figures were lower than 1/4 million but several cities were completely wiped out causing some independent evaluations to figure up to a 1/4 million deaths or more. There have been others in China and other places. I think Italy had a very bad dam disaster where the dam did not fail but a mountain landslide into the reservoir when it was filling up causing a tsunami that over topped the dam (the Three Gorges dam has similar landslide hazards). Where I lived in Ventura county California US there was what was called the Mulholland dam, my grandfather would talk about it being built on wrongly sloped shale that collapsed and killed 1500 people. Let's not forget the Oroville dam in Northern CA that came close to failing that would have killed thousands. Like all over the world dams fail and kill hundreds to thousands at a wack. Weird, people are not going nuts over these things even though these things are responsible for the most catastrophic acute death totals of any the power generation system (coal kills far more but it kills in a chronic fashion so people tend not to notice these deaths). Then again nuclear which has killed the fewest produces mass hysteria when ever proposed.
@aidanderson53X
@aidanderson53X Жыл бұрын
I love that the system designed to breed efficiency and racing to the bottom in term of costs actively obstructs the cheapest option.
@acrocent9788
@acrocent9788 Жыл бұрын
Frfr
@denelson83
@denelson83 Жыл бұрын
Because the option that is cheapest to us is not cheapest for them.
@TheModdedwarfare3
@TheModdedwarfare3 Жыл бұрын
​@@denelson83 it is cheapest to them, but doesnt have the highest delta between cost and profit.
@RipMinner
@RipMinner Жыл бұрын
It's puff puff pass not puff puff and keep on puffing. This system is anything but efficient. It's main objective is control.
@coolioso808
@coolioso808 Жыл бұрын
capitalism is designed to breed market efficiency which is a LOT different than technical efficiency, as we are finding out. What is profitable for a small group of capitalists and their private businesses is not what is most efficient for the general population. Nikola Tesla found this out the hard way. See what happened to him and JP Morgan when he invented the Wardenclyffe tower for free wireless energy transfer. Spoiler: A technology like that which would mean you can't put a meter on it and make people pay monthly for energy use plus not needing to install telephone poles with copper wire and rubber insulation is NOT a profitable model for a capitalist - even though it is abundance and efficiency for the general population. I have just recently found out about Tesla's squashed inventions and I'm into my 30s. It is NOT surprising to me that I didn't learn about this in school. It goes against everything they try to teach us that the capitalist society propaganda has worked so hard to preserve.
@kurisu7885
@kurisu7885 Жыл бұрын
This makes me think of when Phillips released a light bulb that would last two years, while there is a light bulb in a California firehouse that's been in constant use since 1901. We could have had much longer lasting light bulbs for well over a hundred years, but something you buy and use for decades isn't as profitable as something that only lasts a few years, and we see this with way too many products. We have refrigerators that work from around 90 years ago but ones today might fail after just a few years. It's not profitable to make something that lasts a long time, it's more profitable to make something you need to constantly replace, and since once it's burned it's gone they make sure fossil fuels are something we constantly need.
@erkinalp
@erkinalp Жыл бұрын
In case of lightbulbs, there is a real tradeoff of longevity vs. brightness.
@5th_decile
@5th_decile Жыл бұрын
​@@erkinalp not really (or even quite opposite) in modern LEDs
@erkinalp
@erkinalp Жыл бұрын
@@5th_decile How does a fainter, less efficient device be the short-living one?
@5th_decile
@5th_decile Жыл бұрын
@@erkinalp ok, maybe we're not really in disagreement. The point is that the modern LED is to be used in a way where each diode is underrun. The amount of light it emits is a concave function of the applied voltage. To get enough light, what is to be done is to put more diodes in each product. With that out of the way, there are no tradeoffs between luminosity and longevity. There is a small tradeoff in a higher purchasing price (but not in purchasing price divides by longevity).
@Tabalugaarts
@Tabalugaarts Жыл бұрын
planned obsolescence
@freigeist2009
@freigeist2009 Жыл бұрын
Danke!
@jose.montojah
@jose.montojah Жыл бұрын
Remember "infinite growth" is a strategy that dries up colonies of different species on Petri dishes
@alexmorrison3442
@alexmorrison3442 Жыл бұрын
And that's why capitalists will always side with the fascists.
@donaldhobson8873
@donaldhobson8873 Жыл бұрын
So we should grow until we get close to the limits of available resources, and then stop growing. The question is, how far are we from the "limits of all available resources"? Some people seem to think we are right around the corner. Others think we can grow until we have a dyson sphere around every star in the galaxy.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Жыл бұрын
@@donaldhobson8873 World population is predicted to peak and decline. And the number one predictor of population growth rates is per capital GDP. And the number one predictor of per capital GDP is per capital energy consumption. We need to explode the among of energy available to humanity.
@CampingforCool41
@CampingforCool41 Жыл бұрын
@@donaldhobson8873how about we stop growing until we can exist without destroying the earth just by living every day?
@donaldhobson8873
@donaldhobson8873 Жыл бұрын
@@CampingforCool41 Modernity is like a rocket midway through being launched. On the pad it's stable long term. In orbit it's stable. Hovering halfway up will leave you crashing back down. Currently we are burning all sorts of resources that won't last forever. We can either crash down to pre-industrial revolution tech, or we can push forward to a renewable future.
@popejaimie
@popejaimie Жыл бұрын
My favorite part is where you called me dumb, few KZbinrs have the cojones to just tell it like it is like that
@chey7691
@chey7691 Жыл бұрын
Have to accept you don't know everything to learn. And sometimes direct is best, even if it stings.
@pchris
@pchris Жыл бұрын
I like to imagine a future where we don't really have centeralized power plants run by massive corps and instead individual homes use things like solar to generate their own power because it's so cheap and then sell their excess to the grid, and when the sun doesn't shine, they buy power over the grid from locations where the sun is shining.
@philipdamask2279
@philipdamask2279 Жыл бұрын
Solar is not cheap!! It costs home owners a lot to buy solar panels and inverters to make dc power into usable ac power to supply their homes and if they want power at night or on overcast dzys they need to buy expensive batteries.
@pchris
@pchris Жыл бұрын
@@philipdamask2279 how many of our devices that that ac power and just convert it straight back to dc? I think as solar gets cheaper and cheaper and more common we’re going to start seeing more usb ports on outlets and devices that can be powered directly by them.
@lazar2949
@lazar2949 Жыл бұрын
@@philipdamask2279 I have several solar panels on my weekend house and while its useful for my needs because i dont spend much when im over there, it for sure fucking sucks if you intend to live like that. No matter how much sun there is, fridge and similar devices will eat away that energy pretty quickly, like within a day, so i dont use them. For hot water i use gas because if i was relying on the sun i wouldnt have hot water 90% of times. I dont use electric stove because it eats a lot of energy as well, instead i use gas there as well. If there is a lot of clouds, you will soon have to save even on the lights(keep in mind that i have LED). So most of the times i use lanterns that use gas as well so i would have normal lights when bad weather is incoming. During the winter i usually dont have much energy, it collects barely enough for lights for one evening, and if i spend everything and its too cloudy in the following days, i probably wont have lights at all. To warm the house, i burn wood usually. So overall, batteries dont help that much either. Not to mention that it costs a lot to build all that. While its fine for my needs, i cant imagine how much you would need to invest to sustain all the devices that normal household has today.
@trent800
@trent800 Жыл бұрын
The power loss from buying Energy from thousands or even tens of thousands of kilometers away would be ridiculous (without cheap room temperature superconductors), so it just isn’t viable on its own
@DavidThomas005
@DavidThomas005 Жыл бұрын
A power grid will never be big enough on its own to have 24 hour sun shine. Solar will never be a 24 hour solution, as energy storage of solar is simply way too difficult
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Жыл бұрын
"The ozone eater 3000 is now powered by eco-energy" Yeah but its still an ozone eater...
@goutamboppana961
@goutamboppana961 Жыл бұрын
and they say leftists aren't funny
@riccardozanoni2531
@riccardozanoni2531 Жыл бұрын
@@goutamboppana961 ? Who in their right mind ever said that lol
@goutamboppana961
@goutamboppana961 Жыл бұрын
@@riccardozanoni2531 rw'ers
@riccardozanoni2531
@riccardozanoni2531 Жыл бұрын
@@goutamboppana961 ah, that makes sense lol. They're not alright, are they?
@goutamboppana961
@goutamboppana961 Жыл бұрын
@@riccardozanoni2531 ye ye
@callummacalister
@callummacalister Жыл бұрын
I really love the new format and presentation style! Definitely a refreshing break from the usual dour pro-socialism channels, and still packed with the same information and calls to action as before. Keep it up!
@alexw.8352
@alexw.8352 Жыл бұрын
Fully agree! Coming at it from "why this can't be profitable so nothing will change" is much more understandable to financial gurus and capitalists.
@NothingXemnas
@NothingXemnas Жыл бұрын
This reminds me a lot (though the presentation is in fact different) of Climate Town, who is a more climate-focused content creator who DOES dip into politics and economics to a similar effect.
@Ryan-ff2db
@Ryan-ff2db Жыл бұрын
Yes, it was informative but incredibly flawed as well. Mainly, it seems to indicates that renewable build-out is far behind fossil fuels, which is very wrong. New energy build out of renewables is 3 to 4 times greater than fossil fuels(in western countries) and yes these are all capitalist companies that are doing it, just not the oil companies. Strangely the single most subsidized industry by far is fossil fuels but don't take my word for it, look up "what percentage of global GDP is fossil fuel subsidies".
@Ryan-ff2db
@Ryan-ff2db Жыл бұрын
@@alexw.8352 It's also not true. Look up "new renewable energy capacity vs fossil fuels". 84 percent of all new energy build-out in 2023 is renewable, which was 75 percent in 2022. So not only are renewables growing faster, they are accelerating. The build-out is expensive but it is not un-profitable. The only reason why fossil fuels are still the majority is because they have a 200 year head start. This is changing far faster than even the most optimistic predictions. The numbers are pretty clear, we've reached an inflection point and it's only up from here. Look up the total build-out of renewables, it's far more positive than this video indicates.
@jhpjhun
@jhpjhun Жыл бұрын
We switched from water power to steam power because it was more exploitable? Very creative take to say the least. We switched to coal because it was a superior source of energy compared to water which was only used as mills at specific locations. There was no such thing as a large scale water-powered factory back in those days. And solar not being popular is not due to “capitalist motives”. We have material restrictions, energy storage restrictions, geographic restrictions, and economic restrictions. If you build a massive solar plant in let’s say, Germany, for example, oops. Germany barely gets clear skies which lower the solar efficiency massively. Even if they produced a massive solar energy surplus, they have no way to store it. Also, who pays for the solar panels? Those solar panels are certainly not going to pay themselves off anytime soon in Germany. People need to stop treating renewables like they are the magical answer to all of our future issues. Except for superior geographical locations such as California all the way to Texas, solar can’t even pay off its carbon emissions that cost to build it in the first place. And yes, contrary to popular belief, Texas is massively investing in solar because it just makes economic sense there. Turns out, capitalism works when the environment supports it.
@kaiserwilhelmii1827
@kaiserwilhelmii1827 Жыл бұрын
These videos are obviously super informative, but I wanted to point out how amazing the excecution and editing are. It makes for an easy and entertaining watch
@erosionhead420
@erosionhead420 Жыл бұрын
Probably well funded by the WEF.
@Hypocrite_
@Hypocrite_ Жыл бұрын
Knowing you, profitability was the first problem on my mind
@ssj400buledi3
@ssj400buledi3 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are giving me hope that more people are getting aware of the problems of our time
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ Жыл бұрын
There are over 8 BILLION people in the world now, "more" means nothing anymore. If all 1.57 million of this channels subscribers watch the videos and become aware, that's still only 0.00019625% of the world population, and very few (if any) of the subscribers are in a position to actually do anything. Yet another problem caused by overpopulation. 😒
@joso7228
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
too late
@zzz-nu2re
@zzz-nu2re Жыл бұрын
Communism is a bigger problem than capitalism
@ja_u
@ja_u Жыл бұрын
@@joso7228Bro this video missed a major point. It’s not too late. Renewables maybe aren’t a business for the mega corporations running energy like Shell and BP but that’s an opportunity not a failure. You can get solar panels, I can get solar panels, every office building can get solar panels, every government building can get solar panels. We don’t need someone to invest many millions into a power plant anymore, we can do it ourselves for cheap. This video really just shows how energy is a dying business if you want crazy margins. In the future we don’t need oil and gas companies anymore, we don’t need Arabic countries’ oil anymore. And that’s majorly positive
@cleoroy3168
@cleoroy3168 Жыл бұрын
I was about to call bs and leave but I stayed and listened and you are completely right.. well done.
@adamporter5910
@adamporter5910 Жыл бұрын
"It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism" - Mark Fisher
@chris.bcfc.keeprighton.5685
@chris.bcfc.keeprighton.5685 Жыл бұрын
When the world's capitalist economic system collapses it will be the end of the world, unless the workers of the world are organised and ready to have simultaneous workers revolutions throughout the planet. There is an alternative economic and social system to world capitalism.
@bigbillhaywood1415
@bigbillhaywood1415 Жыл бұрын
We're not gonna have to imagine the end of the world if we don't end capitalism
@demonslayereren3970
@demonslayereren3970 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@bigbillhaywood1415capitalist greed is a bigger driver of extinction human, animal and maybe nature than even xenoscum (warhammer 40k reference) aka aliens
@zzz-nu2re
@zzz-nu2re Жыл бұрын
​@@bigbillhaywood1415dont worry, communism will starve 50% of the population so everyone can breathe better
@TheNativeTwo
@TheNativeTwo Жыл бұрын
Thankfully. Capitalism is awesome. Sorry you have been deceived.
@GabrielHellborne
@GabrielHellborne Жыл бұрын
My daily dose of why everything sucks and we're all screwed. Thanks, JT, this cheered me up! Because I'm crazy.
@nicreven
@nicreven Жыл бұрын
You can be happy knowing that you make 0 impact on climate change if you don't work for any fossil fuel companies!
@ja_u
@ja_u Жыл бұрын
It’s really not. The only takeaway you should have from this video is that the future Energy shouldn’t and won’t be a business for mega corporations. You and me, the mom and pop business from around the corner or the startup, we can all just generate the energy we need ourselves. Get solar panels on your roof, the office buildings roof. Renewables can’t be gatekept like OPEC does to oil and gas. That means we don’t need Shell and BP to go renewable. Everyone single one can do it themselves. You don’t need a 15% profit margin, you save money by making the electricity etc yourself and that’s incentive enough for a better future
@meinardsl
@meinardsl Жыл бұрын
​@@ja_u there's the issue of storing the energy. Batteries are still very expensive and making them is not exactly environmentally friendly. The solution to that problem would be sharing energy we make and we actually have the infrastructure to do that... it's just that infrastructure is owned by energy providers who are not interested in renewables. As for now it's still a major investment for a single household to make.
@somethingelse9535
@somethingelse9535 Жыл бұрын
@@meinardsl Exactly. Sharing energy means still paying rent for the grid. They'll hit you $100 or much more a month even though you make your own electricity. The solution is nuclear. Full base load to everyone, no emissions, no scary batteries. All those Teslas get a fillup too. Done.
@GabrielHellborne
@GabrielHellborne Жыл бұрын
@@meinardsl You're correct. To buffer a fully solar/wind grid we'd need more metal than the world's proven deposits. We need a nuclear buffer for when it's dark and still.
@andrewlm5677
@andrewlm5677 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has been considering getting solar panels for some time but hasn’t proceeded with it, I would say the the “cost savings” one would anticipate (and I’m somewhat skeptical of that story) is less interesting to me than the resiliency benefits of having some part of the house off grid. Storing the excess power and not being dependent on the utility would be the value add from the solar panels that would justify the time and effort required to proceed with this.
@bobbywise2313
@bobbywise2313 Жыл бұрын
Are there any solar panels that are EMP proof? My understanding is that they are vulnerable to CME's and EMP's. Other than that I think they are great for off grid. I would probably also have wind and hydro as well just in case.
@CodyDavis91
@CodyDavis91 Жыл бұрын
Communists are disgusting.
@Teknopottu
@Teknopottu Жыл бұрын
​@@bobbywise2313Solar panels and other equipment survive EMP's from solar storms and tactical warware if they are not connected when EMP charge happens. There is possibility to flip the breaker off if there is need. And if one could not do that beforehand, it takes very powerful EMP to break solar systems. There are videos about testing solar panels and inverters under electromagnetic pulses. Some did almost nothing, some minor malfunctions for a second. Stronger pulses did some damage, panels not working on full potential anymore and components weakening.
@bobbywise2313
@bobbywise2313 Жыл бұрын
@@Teknopottu Great to know. Thanks
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
something important to note is the type of inverter you'd need if you can get one, i would strongly recommend a 3-way hybrid inverter
@Folomus
@Folomus Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video. As an electrical engineer, I have to say that you are missing several important elements in your evaluation. The price of energy is not only the cost of the fuel, but also the infrastructure required for them to work. For example, while water is free, building a dam is a considerable investment which means generating energy from water is actually not free. The cost ends up being pretty similar to the alternatives once you consider investment. Additionally, you require some unique geography for it to work (enough water, enough height difference, etc), making it unviable in a lot of locations.
@kurayamisidekick
@kurayamisidekick Жыл бұрын
I agree with you in that a lot of things that seem to just be thrown under "exploitation" with little explanation or consideration, have to do with the fact that the actual investment to make use of all that free energy is itself not free, not consistent, not scaleable, not ideally placed, and/or not easy to replicate. Having someone shovel coal into an oven is not free, but it is far more consistent, scaleable, can be placed anywhere, and is easily replicated. It's not just "hurr durr let's turn people into slaves for the fun of it", there are actual practical/environmental/engineering reasons behind a lot of it all. Per cost of infrastructure, the old model had a power station being paid to make energy, customers paying to use that energy, and power lined to bring the power from one to the other. Nowadays we need more power lines, more complex infrastructure, and some of the customers are now also producers, sending energy back into the grid, who need to be paid somehow. It's becoming more complicated for the middle man electrical utilities to purchase and redistribute power, and it displaces the traditional and efficient/reliable/profitable model to something newer and more complex. It brings disruptions that can disturb profit instead of bring more profit, without even taking into account the cost of energy generation at all. The solution though is we need a newer model for the electrical infrastructure, and heavy penalties on anything that emits CO2.
@Kindred192
@Kindred192 Жыл бұрын
As another electrical engineer, 💯💯💯💯. There's a lot of important context missing in favor of making the argument.
@user-gu9yq5sj7c
@user-gu9yq5sj7c Жыл бұрын
@@kurayamisidekick I think coal is still exploitative of people because it causes a lot of pollution so companies using coal chose profits over people and the environment's health. Which destroying the environment is also hurting people by destroying biodiversity, the earth's resources, and people's home.
@antsbruh
@antsbruh 8 ай бұрын
Sometimes direct cost of infrastructure is not reflective of the total cost. In this case, when comparing to burning fossil fuels think of the accrued costs of medical bills a society has to face due to increases in lung diseases and cancers.
@targe4070
@targe4070 Жыл бұрын
You have heard of rainbow capitalism 🇺🇲, now get ready for green capitalism 🤑
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Жыл бұрын
Already well astablished here in Germany. Its f*ing annoying when you read about something that will have no meaningful effect being advertised as a grand step towards "climate neutrality" while its baby steps at best with the same effect as screaming at the sun to "not be so hot pls"
@07Flash11MRC
@07Flash11MRC Жыл бұрын
Green capitalism existed way before rainbow capitalism. You just might not be quite old enough to remember.
@goutamboppana961
@goutamboppana961 Жыл бұрын
@@SimGunther Line go up? Good, Line go down? Bad basically
@totoroben
@totoroben Жыл бұрын
2008 was the year of greenwashing. Now companies can say "been there done that" and pretend it went out of style so they don't need to care anymore.
@jonasy8621
@jonasy8621 Жыл бұрын
I get your issue with green captalism but overcoming the economic System in the western world is a massive obstacle. I dont want to wait for that before taking environmental action.
@Pexing
@Pexing Жыл бұрын
Here in Germany, they introduced a special VAT clause for this year (2023), effectively reducing the price of Solar Panels & components for home energy storage by 19% (only for people, not for companies) in an Effort to get more individuals to cover their own energy demands.
@NoOne-ef7yu
@NoOne-ef7yu Жыл бұрын
Because our energy shortages, with both heating and electricity utilizing natural gas, will happen in winter, when the sun is shining the least. Am I missing something, or is this a rather retarded to get the energy supply up (and therefore prices down)?
@johanneswerner7649
@johanneswerner7649 Жыл бұрын
You do realize that companys never pay vat, right?
@donnybowers7832
@donnybowers7832 Жыл бұрын
@@johanneswerner7649 Right. Ultimately the consumer pays for all corporate taxes.
@ChiekoGamers
@ChiekoGamers Жыл бұрын
No such thing as ethical billionaires. Their greed is only after profit driven motive in this planet with finite resources.
@yuki-sakurakawa
@yuki-sakurakawa Жыл бұрын
Don't know any socialist billionaires either, apart from some TPLAC presidents. 😋
@badart3204
@badart3204 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@yuki-sakurakawa they are politicians. They control billions of assets without formally holding it on paper since it’s technically (the state).
@jacksmith-vs4ct
@jacksmith-vs4ct Жыл бұрын
if they were ethical they wouldn't be billionaires
@arturodelarosa4394
@arturodelarosa4394 Жыл бұрын
Also i don't think that is not the point. For one i don't think corporate greed is unethical. Billion dollar companies are not sadist. Just don't care. The fact that profits and exploitation go hand in had is a function of capitalism, not greed. Which is the point. Put in another way, if you could come up with an economic model that can profit with big margins without exploiting anyone, corporations would be all up that thing.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 10 ай бұрын
@ChiekoGamers Theres one (whether you want to believe it or not)
@aeonophon
@aeonophon Жыл бұрын
I've been watching your content for years, and you and your team are doing an awesome job evolving the editing and content delivery in your vids. Great humor and cool variety of shots like "peeks behind the curtain". Content itself is prime as always. Friday releases are a thing I regularly look forward to. Thanks for y'all's hard work!
@hammurabi7655
@hammurabi7655 Жыл бұрын
"Gawk, Gawk, Gawk! 🍆🧎‍♂"
@tortysoft
@tortysoft Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. As a long time Green, i signed up just now. Bravo ! Keep it up. I'm standing as a Green - again in the UK, this really helps !
@snowmanplayer4424
@snowmanplayer4424 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy how the tone shifted from being pessimistic and somewhat depressive in the old videos, to being overly sarcastic and, in some way, embracing the fact that we're all fucked anyway, so might as well enjoy the show
@annfarmer9704
@annfarmer9704 Жыл бұрын
that is self defeating. revolution.
@gianlucamattos8684
@gianlucamattos8684 Жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna tell the kids in home that their future is fucked so we better do something against those fuckerd
@gianlucamattos8684
@gianlucamattos8684 Жыл бұрын
Sorry fuckers*
@RosscoAW
@RosscoAW Жыл бұрын
The unabashed mimicry of certain other KZbinrs flashy "graphs and documents and papers oh my" style is unironically killing it and I'm all here for the tongue-in-cheek, keep on slaying JT
@RoyeReedBenjamin
@RoyeReedBenjamin Жыл бұрын
Oooooh! Was that Johnny Harris parody? I could tell that I was getting a nudge and wink from that stuff, but it took reading your comment for me to get it. Thank you!
@ChuckyLi
@ChuckyLi Жыл бұрын
Take away the subsidies first... the numbers are a bit artificial right now.
@RsSooke
@RsSooke Жыл бұрын
Just think, there are still thousands if not millions of people who still believe Elon Musk cares about the world.
@nfzeta128
@nfzeta128 Жыл бұрын
Yep, all Elon did was get in on the free government money that was giving out for renewable projects. It's the same thing the gas and oil giants did and they even committed to it less than him by having easy out contracts. This is why Elon may get rich quick but his business models aren't as stable as those giants.
@StephtheGD
@StephtheGD Жыл бұрын
Ha ha! I actually laughed out loud.
@bramvanduijn8086
@bramvanduijn8086 Жыл бұрын
I didn't see a mention of Musk. Can you not bring that creep into every conversation? I was quite happy not thinking about him all day and now you've ruined that.
@furiousdestroyah9999
@furiousdestroyah9999 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't care about that stuff or know really who/what Musk does, but my mother is one of those people. Should I be worried 🤣?
@bryceosborne4357
@bryceosborne4357 Жыл бұрын
Honestly he probably wants to get to Mars so he can claim rights on materials there
@jacksonwhite23
@jacksonwhite23 Жыл бұрын
I’m a utility scale solar developer from New Zealand and can confirm that we are easily modelling returns well higher than 10% on our ~2 billion portfolio.
@wora1111
@wora1111 Жыл бұрын
You are Utility scale. It works on that scale. In the long run that will become a problem for big American companies. They can not bribe all the people on that level as easily as they do with Congress or Senate
@jacksonwhite23
@jacksonwhite23 Жыл бұрын
@@wora1111 but a whole portion of the argument is that renewables aren’t profitable without incentives and I can assure you that is wrong. New Zealand is generally thought of as a very liberal country but we have never had a single subsidy for solar but our farms will still make a profit and big global companies are actively looking to invest in us (or already are) due to our profitable projects.
@wora1111
@wora1111 Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonwhite23 They are not profitable for the BIG providers because those make their profits less through the service they provide but rather by being able to set the price any way they want. If users notice that they can generate their own power (at least to some extent) then that is bad for the BIG providers because users are less dependant on them. In Germany we have regulations for how much suppliers are allowed to charge for power. And renewables are profitable for everybody. That includes homeowners like me, municipal utilities and even the big German/European Providers.
@ericcrawford7664
@ericcrawford7664 Жыл бұрын
I'm a utility scale developer from the Midwest, USA working on a $4bn portfolio of wind, solar, and battery. This video I thought was headed in the direction of Chinese forced labor, but nope. Listen, the top 2 reasons solar projects don't get built is (1) Transmission capacity & related and (2) NIMBYism. Everything else is a smaller problem tha can be fixed, even under capitalism.
@britefeather
@britefeather Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I never heard from him the reason why renewables cannot be profitable. Only that they have to be.
@samschannel3817
@samschannel3817 Жыл бұрын
The production quality is SO HIGH! Thank you!
@Thatanticapitalist
@Thatanticapitalist Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who feels his videos are getting better and more comprehensive and detailed
@KekusMagnus
@KekusMagnus Жыл бұрын
that's because he is rapidly expanding his knowledge. If you look at his early political videos, it was pretty baby-leftist in comparison
@Thatanticapitalist
@Thatanticapitalist Жыл бұрын
@@KekusMagnus I agree
@hammurabi7655
@hammurabi7655 Жыл бұрын
"Gawk, Gawk, Gawk! 🍆🧎‍♂"
@smith2354
@smith2354 Жыл бұрын
@@hammurabi7655 UDDREEEAAAAA 🗿🗿🗿
@kylesmoran
@kylesmoran Жыл бұрын
His editing got better. The political information is the same.
@Jack-pf6lv
@Jack-pf6lv Жыл бұрын
"Capitalism is made in greed,non-justice" The most truth quote I ever made
@KozelPraiseGOELRO
@KozelPraiseGOELRO Жыл бұрын
Capitalism is society's capital punishment.
@aminulhussain2277
@aminulhussain2277 Жыл бұрын
Most evils in this world are born of human action.
@TheModdedwarfare3
@TheModdedwarfare3 Жыл бұрын
You need someone to proofread your quote.
@EagleZtoTheGrave
@EagleZtoTheGrave Жыл бұрын
​@@aminulhussain2277 Or inaction
@19Cobre
@19Cobre Жыл бұрын
​@@aminulhussain2277human inaction actually.
@spinnymathingy3149
@spinnymathingy3149 Жыл бұрын
I have solar PV on my home, the savings in my power bill repaid the installation cost in 2.5 years, since then I’ve had no electricity bill, that’s 8 years of free power. I even regularly get paid $$ for my feed in to the grid
@CamperEater
@CamperEater 11 ай бұрын
Nice
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 10 ай бұрын
Are you being paid retail prices for electricity aka net metering?
@spinnymathingy3149
@spinnymathingy3149 10 ай бұрын
@@gregorymalchuk272 , I think you are referring to, how much I get paid for the electricity I feed into the grid ? If so , definitely not the same as the price I pay when purchasing electricity at night time. My feed in tariff $$ is only around %25 of the purchase cost. But my PV system is large enough to export a lot during the day to offset my night usage
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 10 ай бұрын
@@spinnymathingy3149 Ok, fair enough. You are being paid wholesale, not retail. At least you aren't being subsidized by neighbors without solar.
@lqlaliut897
@lqlaliut897 Жыл бұрын
Everytime I tune in this channel, I always prepare to have my preconceptions blown. Damn glad I got to know about this channel.
@builuuquanghuy4144
@builuuquanghuy4144 Жыл бұрын
In 2010s, the Vietnamese government are planning to build a nuclear powerplant as part of their 5 years plan (yes it still exist, co-exist with the market economy), and suddenly, the people protest, and what more surprise? The west jump in and said "hey guys, stop building that nuclear powerplant thingy for your 5 years plan, we give you solar and wind energy and stuff, its better, you can always trust us", the government accepted 10 years snice, its 2023 and now Vietnam is suffering energy crisis as electricity are cut frequently and the people suffer the on-going hot summer as a result, thank you capitalism by screwing our 5 years plan and its nuclear powerplant project and make us suffer, thank you so much capitalism -_-
@MayaPosch
@MayaPosch Жыл бұрын
Bangladesh was smart to start their nuclear project, even if it was with Rosatom. Same with Pakistan and their two new Chinese reactors, the second of which just went online. Uranium fuel is dirt cheap, and you can get it from anywhere. I hope that Vietnam gets things in order soon and at least get some US BWRX-300 SMRs installed.
@yoggothemadgod6196
@yoggothemadgod6196 Жыл бұрын
And today as always Fuck always solar, go nuclear
@vuhoanghuan
@vuhoanghuan Жыл бұрын
1. The nuclear power plant was planned and later the idea was scrapped because of the disaster at Fukushima. 2. Most power cut is happening in the north due to reliance on hydropower. Dry season, no rain, low water level on rivers due to too many dams upstream (Laos and China). There is rarely any power cut in the south where I live. Energy production in the south relies on a mix of oil/gas and solar/wind so it is much more reliable. Just to let you know Trị An lake is also completely dry. 3. The nuclear power plant was planned to be built in the south (Bình Thuận). How about building it in the north near your backyard if you like nuclear so much?
@LancesArmorStriking
@LancesArmorStriking Жыл бұрын
​@@MayaPosch I'm not sure I'd trust the country that was just described as attempting to stifle Vietnam's energy industry, with building a power plant. Fool me once, as the saying goes
@Arjava.
@Arjava. Жыл бұрын
​@@MayaPoschRosatom is more politically reliable
@RobertRodgers-r5h
@RobertRodgers-r5h Жыл бұрын
Outstanding Report! Thank You!
@AntiExploited
@AntiExploited Жыл бұрын
Terrific! I'm currently in a preparation for a sort of debate with one guy concerning socialism as a better option for sustainability and healthcare as opposed to capitalism. Have got one more solid argument now :) Thanks for the vid as always, JT! I've been socialist for almost half a year now, mostly thanks to your brilliant and convincing content.
@logans3365
@logans3365 Жыл бұрын
Let us know how it goes, logic is on your side so essentially you can’t lose unless your opponent is really good at playing on emotions.
@cummerou1
@cummerou1 Жыл бұрын
​@@lostboy8084The internet was literally invented by a government institution
@Briggsian
@Briggsian Жыл бұрын
​@@lostboy8084 innovation would actually happen more often in a none profit seeking (ie money hoarding) economy, as we would be more willing to openly share ideas and designs to maximize efficiency and resources. Making something that can give workers more leisure time, or that uses fewer resources to produce the same output would be the main focus. Instead, with capitalism, we see companies purposely blocking innovation with patents and intellectual property rights to protect their bottom line.
@logans3365
@logans3365 Жыл бұрын
@@lostboy8084 @briggsian already explained my point pretty well, capitalism impedes innovation to maintain profits for a few , whereas socialism chases innovation for the Benefit of everyone even if Innovator’s can’t exploit it for profit.
@bramvanduijn8086
@bramvanduijn8086 Жыл бұрын
@@lostboy8084 I know quite a lot of scientists and they are perfectly happy getting a liveable wage. They don't have a profit motive, they're hyperfocused geeks and nerds doing what they love: Going deep into a subject. You don't need an external motivator when doing it is the single most fascinating and pleasing experience you've ever had. Add to that the massive boost to your status when people are using your work (or even better: Your peers grudgingly or cheerfully admitting that they are impressed). Honestly, money is a comparatively weak motivator. Unless you're the type to admire lottery winners, i.e. you can't tell the difference between resources and skill.
@Elleh42
@Elleh42 Жыл бұрын
"Water is hard to collect and privatize" somebody tell that to Nestlé
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 Жыл бұрын
and the british government
@tuojiangoman3228
@tuojiangoman3228 Жыл бұрын
Don't do it! They'll see it as a challenge and f*ck us over more.
@shaylatwitchell2567
@shaylatwitchell2567 10 ай бұрын
"Water is hard to privatize" Nestle: hold my beer
@unbottledgenie4914
@unbottledgenie4914 Жыл бұрын
Damn if only there was some kind of economic model that makes renewables the preferred and less exploitive option...☭
@Lucas-sc6lr
@Lucas-sc6lr Жыл бұрын
won't someone think of the billionaires and their corporate lapdogs.... They need a second condo, a forth car, and more money for their 5th mistress.
@andarilho_31
@andarilho_31 Жыл бұрын
Woah I didn't knew there was a Unicode character for the comunist symbol
@yurplethepurple2064
@yurplethepurple2064 Жыл бұрын
Please stop using the USSR flag as a symbol of good communism, it’s extremely offensive. The USSR slaughtered my people by the thousands and enslaved us in concentration camps
@JakeTheJay
@JakeTheJay Жыл бұрын
@@Lucas-sc6lr Can't forget a Yacht that needs a Yachty to guide it!.. and another Yacht to guide that Yacth too
@nicholasgutierrez9940
@nicholasgutierrez9940 Жыл бұрын
Go to gulag for glorious great comrade. Slave labor always works.
@dissident1337
@dissident1337 Жыл бұрын
The thing to understand is that profit-seeking isn't just about making numbers go up; it's because money is a vehicle for power, and they are opposed to anything about environmentalism (even if it's profitable) because their fundamental concern is with being able to hold power.
@5th_decile
@5th_decile Жыл бұрын
You're right: it's about power. If one of them grows only 7%/yr while their competitors grow 10%/yr, their share in the wealth is diminishing and therefore their power compared to their competitors is diminishing, despite having become more wealthy in absolute terms.
@Solid_Snake99
@Solid_Snake99 Жыл бұрын
@@5th_decile WRONG. China has been growing 7% compared to the west.
@annfarmer9704
@annfarmer9704 Жыл бұрын
the thing about power/control is how few hold it. the question is how long are we going to take this shit? revolution
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
Then why have oil&gas lobbies historically and currently funded "environmentalist" groups? Because they're useful idiots who propose a solution that isn't harmful to them
@fartface8918
@fartface8918 Жыл бұрын
@Solid_S​nake88 what do you think your are saying here?
@declanjoyce8640
@declanjoyce8640 11 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation....thank you.
@chriswhite976
@chriswhite976 Жыл бұрын
All I know is that My solars panels on my Roof keep more money in my pocket instead of some elses.
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
Mostly incentive money, depending on how your specific roof is.
@KarennOhlinder
@KarennOhlinder Жыл бұрын
This is an issue that absolutely must not be decided by greed. It's way past time to make public utilities public again.
@grimwaltzman
@grimwaltzman Жыл бұрын
There's a ton of private capital going into renewables. That said, we really need to figure out a commercially viable high capacity energy storage if we want them to cover all of our energy needs.
@erosionhead420
@erosionhead420 Жыл бұрын
These people just want global communism. They can’t understand your logic.
@donnybowers7832
@donnybowers7832 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It would also help if we could adopt something like real capitalism instead of this global oligarchy. More people having an incentive to innovate and invent, not bigger, more powerful corporations, would be much more effective. If there's no competition then the focus becomes solely on profit instead of quality innovation. It's obvious that when global corporations run the world, the mousetraps become worse, not better.
@somerandompersonontheinter9211
@somerandompersonontheinter9211 Жыл бұрын
I have to say I love the switch to a more light-hearted, humorous format with different backgrounds, etc.
@Fishfishfishfishfishfishfishfi
@Fishfishfishfishfishfishfishfi Жыл бұрын
You’ve always made great videos, but the past couple ones have just had an insane step up in quality, content, and entertainment, while not diluting any of the actual information. Great stuff, man
@buscseik
@buscseik Жыл бұрын
I am talking about this for years :) If something cheaper for us means less income for them.
@chrisgaming9567
@chrisgaming9567 Жыл бұрын
21 seconds, earliest I've been to a ST vid
@PYROWORKSTV
@PYROWORKSTV Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Here is your bag of free air
@pauldaplayfulpanda3042
@pauldaplayfulpanda3042 Жыл бұрын
The fit is, as per usual, on point👏
@PipocaQ
@PipocaQ Жыл бұрын
Levelized cost of energy represents (total costs of the plant over its entire lifetime / total electricity generated over its lifetime). Solar being cheaper than gas in levelized terms means that it's cheaper to build a solar array than an equivalent new gas plant. It doesn't mean that it's cheaper to build a new solar array than to continue to operate an existing gas plant. If you look at new power plants being built in the last few years, over 50% are solar.
@Lunar.67
@Lunar.67 Жыл бұрын
Man your videos keep getting higher quality. Keep fighting for what's right, they can't beat us all ✊
@christinearmington
@christinearmington Жыл бұрын
Haha. Have you seen us lately? 😏
@logans3365
@logans3365 Жыл бұрын
Nuclear energy has been ready to role out for decades, but it’s not profitable as well so they are being shut down instead of built.
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 Жыл бұрын
It's profitable, but the wrong sort of profitable. There's a very long construction time before the plant starts returning on any investment, and not much incentive to tie up capital in something so long-term: By the time the profit starts, everyone who made the decision will have moved on and no longer personally benefit from it. It's also a risky investment, as the political landscape can change a lot in a decade - even if the government today is all for the new power station, the one in ten years might decide to cancel the project just as construction is nearly done.
@KozelPraiseGOELRO
@KozelPraiseGOELRO Жыл бұрын
Gernany recently closed its last reactor. It was the worst step done in decades.
@logans3365
@logans3365 Жыл бұрын
@@KozelPraiseGOELRO wants to be less reliant on Russian guess Hey guys let’s close down our greenest most reliable power plant
@logans3365
@logans3365 Жыл бұрын
@@vylbird8014 Iv been thinking about trying to start a public funded reactor, city by city, everyone pitches in to build one and now everyone gets cheap clean power forever.
@nate4fish
@nate4fish Жыл бұрын
@@vylbird8014 the construction costs much which is due to the government overreach and much due to safety concerns makes nuclear uneconomical.
@peterjones6640
@peterjones6640 Жыл бұрын
The additional factors about why fossil fuel,companies are not going to join the renewables industry are 1. They have already made substantial investments in fossil fuel exploitation and so want to run those assets for as long as possible, they don’t want “stranded “ assets 2. Fossil fuel production does not account for all the “costs” associated with their production and use, they are effectively charged to society ( ie you and I), so climate change costs, health costs etc. 3. Companies look to the short term because it is short term returns that shareholders want, after all likely that present management will not be around in 5 years time, so kick the can down the road. 4. Fossil fuel firms have tremendous lobby power, they contribute to politicians funds, they commission “research” which is disseminated to politicians and the public, they advertise in newspapers that “tacitly “ support fossil fuel companies etc
@JordanLimbachArt
@JordanLimbachArt Жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always! I look forward to these videos every Friday.
@arandomdragon1534
@arandomdragon1534 Жыл бұрын
So what if we forced them to consider ROIs of 0-0%? If we're getting 2-4% that means they must! Oh, and also targeted penalties to all gross profits from fossil fuels.
@erkinalp
@erkinalp Жыл бұрын
But that would mean only them would profit with nobody else losing. They want to profit at an expense of *explicit loss of somebody else's wealth* . Fortunately there is a word for that: theft. Yes, they want to be able to steal legally.
@furiousdestroyah9999
@furiousdestroyah9999 Жыл бұрын
@@erkinalp Always has been
@kkirschkk
@kkirschkk Жыл бұрын
and you would crash the economy and make things generally worse for everyone.
@yuki-sakurakawa
@yuki-sakurakawa Жыл бұрын
If they have over 5% market cap/share in the area, it should be either split up or become a public company (municipally/regionally owned).
@kkirschkk
@kkirschkk Жыл бұрын
@@yuki-sakurakawa issue there is that for capital insensitive industries that would kill most of them [also ignoring the fact most utilities already are publicly owned through the stock market]
@apersonlikeanyother6895
@apersonlikeanyother6895 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you.
@ponderosabones7803
@ponderosabones7803 Жыл бұрын
I swear, the production quality gets better every single video. Also, great topic, I've been hoping to see you tackle more renewable energy/climate change topics.
@PC42190
@PC42190 Жыл бұрын
Best example of a simple explanation for the tendency of the rate of profit to fall
@williamstark9568
@williamstark9568 Жыл бұрын
There's a superman scene with Lex Luthor. Scientists are showing him a bona fide cure for cancer. Take it once and you're cured. Period. How revolutionary! Lex immediately says: Reduce it's efficacy till it's something that needs to be taken over years. Weird to think how a comic can give you a rather realistic example of shit like that.
@btetschner
@btetschner Жыл бұрын
A+ video! Of exceptionally high quality for understanding the system of this phenomena, very educational.
@brianthebear8299
@brianthebear8299 Жыл бұрын
While I agree with the overall thesis, the point on returns on solar is misunderstood. Solar returns are so low precisely because so many people want to invest in solar. Because so many investors are bidding for existing solar farms, they have to pay much higher prices than normal, leading to lower returns. Low returns is not necessarily a bad thing, especially when the inherent technology is so good. Lower solar investment in 2022 was mainly due to supply and grid constraints which are short term issues to be solved.
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
But why would you want to create a grid with a capacity that is several times higher than what's needed for consumption, just so that you can overuse an extremely unwieldy source that can't be controlled? There's literally the better option of nuclear that doesn't have any of those problems. ..
@erkinalp
@erkinalp Жыл бұрын
@@bacicinvatteneaca Capitalists love more energy, and a redundant grid enables you to spend more energy per unit time.
@caleb_güero
@caleb_güero 5 ай бұрын
I believe it was Chairman Mao who said, "Political change comes at the barrel of a gun."
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply Жыл бұрын
Around a decade or so ago I took a look at some solar panels. There's no way I could sell them for near what I paid. That's 'cause they've only gotten cheaper and more efficient since then. But you see how I hooked in the conservatives with that first bit? I just got in another charge controller about an hour ago so another one of those panels goes out today. I've been using them paired with old 12v batteries (one has been dead for a decade but works for this) to power lights and fans. I have an array in my backyard that feeds into the mains effectively giving me free AC all summer long.
@ColonelJeanmi
@ColonelJeanmi Жыл бұрын
As we say in some radical leftist groups, "Ecology without anticapitalism, it's just gardening"
@thecreatornooj1328
@thecreatornooj1328 Жыл бұрын
Sir your opening fit was quite dapper and your content most informative
@boipolloi687
@boipolloi687 Жыл бұрын
Woah, I am really impressed with how important labor exploitation is to making energy profitable! I really gotta nail down this whole surplus value thing and how human labor is the only thing that can make surplus value and make capitalist profit possible because I still can't quite argue it with confidence.
@donaldhobson8873
@donaldhobson8873 Жыл бұрын
A lot of this is nonsense pseudoeconomics. The capitalists choose between paying a human and renting a robot based on whichever is actually cheaper in practice.
@boipolloi687
@boipolloi687 Жыл бұрын
@@donaldhobson8873 So why were the capitalists choosing the coal option over the water option even when water was cheaper 200 years ago, and why are they choosing the fossil fuel options when solar options are cheaper now? Also the robot vs. human hypothetical is telling, why should human laborers compete with robots over wages? Humans should just keep their wages low so they don't get replaced with robots? Shouldn't technology be used to benefit humanity rather than enslave people?
@elciervoparaguayo3756
@elciervoparaguayo3756 Жыл бұрын
I would say that, solar being cheap just as hydro is actually very good in the cases in which energy is a public good. When the main or even only way to produce energy is managed by the government, cheaper becomes more important than profitable, it's the reason my country Paraguay has hydro power as the main source, and why the first place the government looks for new ways to produce energy it is in wind and solar. Maybe that's the true solution, the distribution of energy as a public good instead of an industry.
@donnybowers7832
@donnybowers7832 Жыл бұрын
Sounds real utopian, but it always ends up dystopian.
@elciervoparaguayo3756
@elciervoparaguayo3756 Жыл бұрын
@@donnybowers7832 Care to give some examples?
@donnybowers7832
@donnybowers7832 11 ай бұрын
@@elciervoparaguayo3756 Government run industry is the reason the U.S.S.R. failed. It always ends up corrupt; and there is little to no incentive for innovation. When government limits innovation to just the single party oligarchs progress always suffers. There are many examples in the last century and a half. The only reason alternative energy has come as far as it has is because of capitalism. And it would be much further along if we had real capitalism instead of the corporate welfare state and subsidies to the oligarchs.
@1over137
@1over137 Жыл бұрын
The detour kind of omits a few very important details by only looking at the social studies view point. Coal was mobile. Coal was energy dense. It took a lot less coal that it took wood. Factories still needed water, but they didn't need water pressure so they could be located where the workforce was, because, it matters very little how much power you can generate if you don't have a labour force to implement it. By and far the highest costs to a business are its labour costs. In the early days of the industrial revolution it took a LOT of people to get a factory to run and 2 to 3 times as many people to get it to run 24/7. These people didn't have cars and travelling to work from anywhere more than a mile was pretty difficult. So factories were built in cities and created cities around them. With water a mill might be able to produce power for 100 workers. So a rural water mill works in that model. However a city mill running on coal could require 1000 workers. Finding 1000 workers within 1 mile of your factories requires a city.
@michaeladkins6
@michaeladkins6 Жыл бұрын
When you were listing all of the things in the box, I knew the problem was greed.
@misanthropicsophist
@misanthropicsophist Жыл бұрын
you have become one of my favorite channels
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 Жыл бұрын
3:25 to 3:55 - Feeling *_soooooo_* called out right now!
@rjramrod
@rjramrod Жыл бұрын
Hey here's a great idea, what if the burden of remaining within our planetary boundaries was placed instead on the most exploitative people in the world Perhaps through something like, say, a sort of dictatorship established by the proletariat
@bramvanduijn8086
@bramvanduijn8086 Жыл бұрын
I dunno, can we do it without a dictatorship? Let's just go back to direct democracy, now that representative democracy has shown us again and again and again that it gets captured by rich lobbyists and their wilfully-blind ideology. The problem cannot be solved with politics because politics IS the problem. Instead we need a culture shift. I propose something like this: Anyone who tries to make decisions for others must be treated like a monster. You know, similar to how we treat Nazis. speaking of, have you punched a nazi today? And if not, why not?
@honiideslysses12
@honiideslysses12 Жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of clean nuclear energy. The closer we get to understanding the power of hydrogen and helium the more we can distance ourselves from uranium, plutonium and other fissile materials the closer we get to understanding fusion. The ability to harness the limitless power at the atomic level is the path forward.
@Vitan89
@Vitan89 Жыл бұрын
We're not even close to comercial fusion. Fission fuel can be recycled and reused. We have reactors that run on nuclear waste.
@qpalzm599
@qpalzm599 Жыл бұрын
The people who run our economies by deciding where the investment money goes don't want limitless available power, because that wouldn't be profitable. Did you even watch the video? Changing the system is the only path forward.
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 Жыл бұрын
@@qpalzm599 Well it is profitable if your the company building it. Because MMMM taxpayer dolla.
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
Hydrogen is a vector, you need to create energy first to make hydrogen. Fusion would be less clean than fission, because it turns the structure of the reactor itself into massively radioactive material, more so than fission, and it degrades it faster to the point of needing replacement. Fusion is also still in an undefinedly distant future. We don't have time to waste HOPING that somehow a miracle happens. Which is why oil&gas lobbies fund fusion research: to get you to focus on a pipe dream and forget about the things you can do right now, such as using fission
@TheSolarWolf
@TheSolarWolf Жыл бұрын
@@bacicinvatteneaca Fission is king of the exploitative and damaging energy source. More so then other non-renewables. Capitalism loves Fission because of how limited it is and how easy it is to exploit humans and resources, and how it has this aura of being clean when in reality it suffers every bit of the draw backs that renewables have times 4 so the companies behind it don't have to do much in the way of fooling the consumer especially with the whole "there is no other way" shtick. Plus you don't need to actual invest in Fission to be a reality unlike something like Fusion. Once the oil wells dry up, the energy titans will be coming down hard on the uranium mines and all the rare earth mineral mines needed to build a place to make the energy, and they will guard nuclear power plants like their life dependent on it. You live in a pipe dream as big as the one you are accusing op of. We need to end the need for capitalism, endless growth, and centralized energy sources to save ourselves. None of these pipe dreams attacking other for supposedly being pipe dreams. We can have fusion one day and we can have a world run on renewables. None of these things are conflicting goals.
@willeisinga2089
@willeisinga2089 Жыл бұрын
400 Wp Solar panels Cost now 80 Dollar. Production garantee 30 years. In Nederland there is now a Law against Solar on Farmland. One hectare produces 1 million kWh every year. The Government in Nederland makes it Impossible by Law.
@sanjuku
@sanjuku Жыл бұрын
"Most people have heard of the sun" How do we break the news to the people who haven't?
@drewm9903
@drewm9903 Жыл бұрын
That's a socialist conspiracy, everyone knows that the sun ain't real.
@inkh-su
@inkh-su Жыл бұрын
When I first saw Second Thought's face reveal video, I was initially turned off as I was just used to infographics and background images. However THIS video. Holy shit. This was a great video !! I Love the expressiveness in his face this video and the humorous parts landed hard.
@romainbourque
@romainbourque Жыл бұрын
your song at the end, i imagine. keep up the great work degogo, your documentaries are the shit!
@Raisethredbanner
@Raisethredbanner Жыл бұрын
@Second Thought , Great video, love it comrade. But i feel you missed a beat in regards to the declining profit of renewable. One of the reasons for the declining profit for example solar is the low labour content. Because profits mostly consist of unpaid wages, as labour content diminishes so does the potential for profits. This can be seen as the labour intensive (mostly using heavily exploited periphery labour) production of the panels is profitable. But once the panels are in situ, labour content drops, they dont have as many moving parts as fossil fuel and require little maintenance There just isnt much labour to steal. This points to a world were workers can have a good standard of life while working less hours (and saving the biosphere), but as you rightly point out, only if we cast off the capitalist profit motive. Power too you and the workers comrade, top work!!
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
It's mostly not that, though that's certainly part of it. It's that solar and wind are discontinuous, and thus of very little use above a certain percentage of the energy.production mix. Their profits mostly come from incentives, and those are going down as the grid is more and more saturated with sources that activate all at the same time, requiring massive public investments to expand a grid that's going to be empty most of the time, and having to PAY INDUSTRIES WITH PUBLIC MONEY TO WASTE ENERGY AT THE PEAK HOURS OF PRODUCTION, because otherwise the overload going to burn some piece of infrastructure. In all this, we still don't have the tech to make batteries for even 1% of our current needs, let alone our needs once we've converted transportation etc. to electric, let alone once we give home accès to electricity to the rest of the world.
@Yerbuas
@Yerbuas Жыл бұрын
Great point. I always wondered why we haven't extracted and recycled the goods from waste and broken hardware instead of mining new materials. The video shows that it's all about exploitation and profit.
@elciervoparaguayo3756
@elciervoparaguayo3756 Жыл бұрын
Recycling is a very exploitative industry in countries like China, India and Malasia
@Parafanalia
@Parafanalia Жыл бұрын
Green tech is literally tax subsidized by every working person on Earth. Lol. Thats what Carbon Tax is. So its not only NOT cheaper but it's exponentially more expensive.
@lucasgrey9794
@lucasgrey9794 Жыл бұрын
No.
@zackreph939
@zackreph939 Жыл бұрын
"It comes from the sky, but isn't exactly rain" JT is clearly moving into his unhinged era and I, for one, am here for it.
@LaneS89
@LaneS89 Жыл бұрын
very good. clear and to the point
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 Жыл бұрын
The reason why fossil fuels are being decommissioned so slowly is because pretty much all forms of green energy requires you to pay for it up front which makes it a lot harder to install even if it is a lot cheaper per unit energy.
@jacksmith-vs4ct
@jacksmith-vs4ct Жыл бұрын
nah not harder it makes it more expensive exactly what he is saying lol
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 Жыл бұрын
@@jacksmith-vs4ct If you have the liquidity it is almost always going to be cheaper to install renewables.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Жыл бұрын
@@garethbaus5471 Renewables aren't cheaper. The grid integration costs mean that variable renewables cost way more than conventional generation. And that doesn't do anything for the middle distillate petroleum fuels that power the global logistics chain, transportation, agriculture, and industrial mining equipment.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 Жыл бұрын
@@gregorymalchuk272 Most of the grid upgrades needed to handle renewables such as improved interconnectivity are already kinda needed to maintain a stable fossil fuel powered grid, many of the most damaging recent blackouts in the US were primarily caused by fossil fuels failing. So the cost of upgrades is somewhat overstated, especially since the combination of solar and batteries alone can provide a stable energy source from a single point with an LCOE that is in the same ball park as a fossil fuel power plant and with a wave shape that is closer to a true sine wave. Most renewables have predictable peak production times that could be managed to greatly reduce the need for storage, most notably both solar and wind tend to have peak production when the other is likely to have low production so you don't need very much storage capacity to match demand over a moderately large grid if you get the right ratio of wind turbines to solar panels. Several forms of renewable energy most notably hydroelectric actually have properties that make them better suited to balancing a grid than fossil fuels. With the obvious exception of air freight, battery electric vehicles are already showing a cost advantage for fleet vehicles especially for the least efficient parts of the supply chain such as last mile delivery, so the use of hydrocarbons as an energy source in logistics is actually kinda similar to their use in grid energy, you need a high initial investment but it works out to be a bit cheaper to avoid the more carbon intensive option thanks to reduced maintenance and fuel costs.
@zzz-nu2re
@zzz-nu2re Жыл бұрын
​@@garethbaus5471solar is great! Till its 7 pm or cloudy. Solar is cheap! Till u install storage to make up for the lack of energy availability
@yoursinisterdoge2785
@yoursinisterdoge2785 Жыл бұрын
"Environmentalism without class struggle is just gardening." -Chico Mendes
@paulchance7948
@paulchance7948 Жыл бұрын
When the sun doesn't shine and the wind isn't blowing you need a back up power system, that makes renewable energy expensive. Otherwise we revert to energy rationing which is not a workable solution. I do like renewable energy though because it stops our dependence on oil and gas cartels.
@aaaaasssss884
@aaaaasssss884 Жыл бұрын
Jason Hickel’s book “degrowth” said it very clear. Recommend!!
@MayaPosch
@MayaPosch Жыл бұрын
Only citing Lazard is an immediate disqualification. When it looks at only a single recent US nuclear plant build and ignores the 5-6 year (on budget, on schedule) builds almost everywhere else, and massively gets the cost of transmission, storage and backup for VRE wrong, the only purpose of Lazard is to act as a red flag when someone seriously cites it. The truth is that VRE is not economical and never will be. This is the problem that California, Germany, Denmark and others are hitting constantly now, with the fluctuating nature of VRE putting a lot of stress on their grids. And they aren't even close to their build-out goals, while relying on imports to keep their grids from collapsing. Meanwhile, the glut of excess power goes for negative money on e.g. the EEX, so that for example Germany is paying France and others to please take their excess power. Great for the nations that are running a lot of nuclear plants, but less awesome for the nations that heavily invested in VRE. The other issue that Germany is now running heavily into is that of a lack of transmission capacity. The current idea is to split the country into multiple grids to 'fix' this. Problem is namely that transmission lines do not generate money. They are rather expensive and remain expensive during their entire lifespan courtesy of maintenance. Nobody wants to build or maintain transmission lines. And generating hydrogen or something from excess VRE? That's not economical unless you can run an electrolyser 24/7, as for example a nuclear plant can do, producing a glut of green hydrogen for industrial applications. Similarly, storage doesn't generate cash either, but only costs money. A nuclear plant requires no extra transmission lines and no storage. Meanwhile, Germany's nuclear plants have been purely producing money for the past years before they were forced by ideology to go offline. Instead Germany is now importing French nuclear power, because France is making bank on their nuclear fleet, even with the VRE-induced troubles (forced ~25% shutdown of the fleet, now rescinded) still bugging them. Even Finland's long delayed new EPR has already caused its $/MWh numbers to plummet. Smart countries like France use their load-following nuclear fleet to get paid to import excess VRE power, while getting paid again to export nuclear power to the same countries when their VRE output plummets. And that's why economists and investors are now heavily leaning into nuclear investments, as it's becoming clear that it's the only sensible and profitable path forward.
@acrocent9788
@acrocent9788 Жыл бұрын
That is true if there is no grid to efficiently support having renewables, it seems Nuclear is the only option, if we get to fusion in by 2040 and uranium 235 world supply can last us till 2110 then going nuclear until we reach fusion reactors by 2040 seems like the best method imo
@elciervoparaguayo3756
@elciervoparaguayo3756 Жыл бұрын
Fusion is simply not happening, I have more hopes on Thorium and even that one is still constantly just about to be coming fr this time since two decades ago as well
@crappozappo
@crappozappo Жыл бұрын
Germany's conservatives didn't replace their nuclear plants with renewables. Disingenuous nuclear proponents cite this as a problem with renewables.
@acrocent9788
@acrocent9788 Жыл бұрын
@@elciervoparaguayo3756 just came out in China the same day you left that comment lol
@elciervoparaguayo3756
@elciervoparaguayo3756 Жыл бұрын
@@acrocent9788 Thorium or Fusion?
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