Green Line LRT: North to South track alignment (March 2017)

This video shows what the Green Line LRT could look like based on the current design as of March 2017. Please note that the detailed alignment could change and is subject to Council approval. Final alignment and station location recommendations will be presented to City Council in June 2017.
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[@davekiesman2202]

I hope it even gets started being built before I'm dead.

[@Vinlyguyx420x]

What ever you guys build just for the love of god make it HEATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@eugenejavion8686]

i guess it is kinda off topic but do anyone know of a good place to stream newly released series online?

[@davidryder3492]

@Eugene Javion i use flixzone. Just google for it :)

[@tatejeremias6535]

@David Ryder Definitely, been using Flixzone for since april myself :)

[@eugenejavion8686]

@David Ryder thanks, signed up and it seems to work :D I appreciate it!

[@davidryder3492]

@Eugene Javion No problem :)

[@davec6240]

Will this thing get built this century? Lets get building it!

[@StrangThang]

Turns out, no they can’t get it built this century

[@goldenhourkodak]

When you have to drive to the train, you've already failed.

[@GsunnyGGamer]

Make the entire line above grade (elevated) or underground like bigger cities do. Please dont undersell Calgary and take any cheaper options. everyone will regret it once the city expands. Just the traffic at saddle ridge station is a complete mess around the circle because of the train being on grade.

[@littlenorway3135]

Especially Centre St., there’s a shit ton of instances where collision with a car or hitting a pedestrian can occur. Also shouldn’t Calgary consider how much foot traffic the Centre St. C-Trains will bring? Odds are Centre St will be a whole mess of generification with the C-Train lines, otherwise what’s the point?

[@Junokaii]

Oh man... I remember when there was no station there and that area was awesome. No traffic lights pretty much, smooth traffic, etc. I don't even drive and it made me mad. Like why didn't they trench that station like 45th Street Station West? Now there's traffic lights out the yin yang and the train in the way. It's a nightmare now.

[@MrFurley2u]

Totally agree with this point, green line looks awesome, just recently taken LRT and having it above grade in the core was bush league, it has killed businesses along 7ave, MacLeod- west bound. The block from centre Street West has changed since was taking a bus to Crescent Heights H.S. 40 years ago. Follow Vancouver and you won't go wrong. Don't cheap out. But the way this province is going this city is going to end up like Detroit.

[@Tracks_And_Chill]

A car shouldn’t be used in urban settings. I understand your concerns and value them though a car is the most expensive (for you AND the city) and damaging form of transportation. I fully support getting around the suburbs in a car, but in downtown, you might want to park it at a park-and-ride and take the train. You won’t have to deal with traffic and by taking a car off the road (YOU’RE in the train) it’ll be less traffic for others. Have a great day 🥰

[@robk7266]

The red and blue lines are grade separated. Why can't this one be? At the very least put in boom gates like Edmonton

[@battlestar79]

The main benefit of Low Floor LRT is simpler at-grade stations that are only a little more than standard curb height, as compared to high floor LRT stations. This enables Low Floor stations to be better integrated into existing communities on existing streets without much re-design and re-construction. Low Floor station platforms are not much higher than existing roadways/sidewalks, requiring much smaller ramps. Calgary has their entire downtown LRT routes planned backwards in this regard. They have the existing High Floor LRT train running at street level in downtown and proposed Low Floor LRT train running underground in the downtown core. I understand Calgary developed their High Floor train many years ago before the modern Low Floor LRV units became available. But given they already have a substantial amount of High Floor LRV vehicles in service on a number of existing track alignments, why not then just build the new Green Line with High Floor LRT/LRV technology as well? It's like the last LRT route to be built, why make it different? The Low Floor LRV vehicles and parts and maintenance facilities are incompatible with High Floor LRV vehicles, parts and maintenance facilities. Therefore there is no flexibility for each line to distribute/share LRV units across the network. Network-wide, there will always be more LRV units in standby mode, or in maintenance mode than necessary, than if they could utilize/share resources across a singular consistent network. From a Low Floor vs High Floor perspective only, Edmonton has utilized the High Floor and Low Floor technologies better as their intended purpose. (This is in part due to fate of timing of each technology, as High floor was invented decades ago, and Low Floor only becoming mainstream only recently). Edmonton has their existing High Floor LRT trains running in a metro style tunnel through the downtown. Edmonton is now building the new Low Floor Valley Line LRT alignment on the surface in the downtown. Generally I don't agree with building LRT at-grade in a downtown, because it limits overall corridor efficiency between trains and road vehicles....Unless it can be built in its entire own corridor with no road running immediately adjacent/parallel to it and intersection crossing spacing is sufficient to allow good traffic flow. In Edmonton's case, the length of each Valley Line train (number of connected Low Floor LRV units) is limited to the distance between downtown blocks (particularly between 100 St and 101 St). Based on the same frequency as the existing High Floor Capital line, this limits the capacity of the Low Floor Valley Line to about 6,600 passengers per hour, vs the High Floor line of capacity of 12,000 passengers per hour. Also, operating a train with roadway traffic signal timings defeats the purpose of having a train run on its own autonomous uninterpreted faster paced schedule. If a key objective of LRT operations means utilizing roadway traffic signal timings, then a much cheaper BRT system would make much more sense. Another key objective of mass transit is to move as many people as possible in the shortest time. Commuters only care about getting from A to B in the shortest time. Another objective of mass transit is to reduce roadway congestion, but if trains are interfering with traffic signals, then the purpose is diminished.

[@Tracks_And_Chill]

YES! I completely agree with you. I live a 20 minute walk from North Pointe terminal (5 minute bike or bus ride), and when I tell you this will be my main transportation into downtown (DNT) I wouldn’t be lying. I have been discussing the low floor LRV topic for a while. All the points you mention are correct, and I agree with them. I feel that we should take cars off the road, instead of moving the train out of the way. One way is congestion pricing, charging drovers a fee to enter the DNT area. I think this should be done similar to London (UK) or NYC. Not only would this make the train more efficient (it already is extremely “people per area” efficient). Please, have a great day 😊

[@user-xj9vf4xb9p]

They went with it most likely due to cost. To me it's not a big deal at all.

[@robk7266]

At least Edmonton and the blue line on bow trip SW and 36th street have boom gates. Why can't this one do the same? Make the cars wait

[@user-xj9vf4xb9p]

@@robk7266 I'm pretty sure they have a system where the timing of the train when it comes to the lights is perfectly in sync so that there is never a red light when the crosses the intersection. At least I hope they do.

[@robk7266]

@@user-xj9vf4xb9p I wouldn't bet on it. The Eglinton crosstown won't, and the new Valley line in Edmonton even has to stop at some intersections

[@bmw320540750]

this extension is very important to Calgary more than any thing else, the city is going to be the biggest city in the west, so we need a comprehensive transportation system, i think subway(underground) solution is the best, but i hope that if you take in consideration the heating system at those stations,

[@wesderngentleman8820]

Subway is mostly for dense areas and Calgary is just mostly houses 🏠 so I think this light rail system is the best for this city’s demand

[@ChanT3]

Calgary is nothing compared to Metro Vancouver

[@Tracks_And_Chill]

@@wesderngentleman8820 HOW DARE YOU. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT. I was gonna comment it and you just took that away from me 😠 /s

[@freedombro6502]

Why is this not done yet? 7 years is enough time .

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

Once again Calgary transit seems to think we live in California, designing stations with sub-standard to no weather protection. Oh and do you like traffic and train collisions at level crossings? Well this line will have an absolute smorgasbord of opportunities for that to happen.

[@ACSMusicSounds]

the music in this video was good

[@Trackside_magpie_7535]

If anyone knows the song name please tell me

[@kingwata1]

@@Trackside_magpie_7535check bensounds. You will find it

[@craigusselman546]

Calgary will enjoy this line at its completion in June 3030 A.D

[@Star_Jewel_Realm]

The animation looked smooth and efficient. It would be interesting to see if the city can deliver this expensive project. Estimated cost close to $1.5 billion dollars.

[@GTR-88-u8g]

$5.5-billion

[@kingwata1]

@@GTR-88-u8g😂

[@songruizhang5930]

This thing is so cool. Every city should make a LRT video like this one !!!

[@drprogensteinphp]

Yeah, but keep in mind this video is 7 years old. Much has changed in terms of the city's Greenline planning, so they should really take this video down and upload a new one.

[@jackgunn1480]

Every city does.

[@James-vj5hz]

That's an insane amount of tunneling. I sure hope they're building a ton of ghost stations in during construction.

[@drprogensteinphp]

Yeah, but keep in mind this video is 7 years old. Much has changed in terms of the city's Greenline planning, in particular the tunneling. They should really take this video down and upload a new one. The city also seems to be very hush-hush when it comes to this project. There's not a lot of up-to-date accurate information available to the public.

[@davekiesman2202]

The places I could go, the life I could live.

[@fortyseventen]

A true north-south corridor transit system! That will create lots of jobs for years to come

[@Tracks_And_Chill]

HELL YEAH! That’s all I’ve got! Have a good day.

[@JayJayAviation]

First underground station in Calgary! Very excited

[@yongdetao7005]

JayJay Planes&Things you know westbrook exists right?

[@rdsieben]

The one in Westbrook is underground

[@thundersonic342]

Actually Calgary has an LRT station called Westbrook which is underground

[@JayJayAviation]

I learnt that lol. I was stupid 2 years ago

[@janiceho6034]

It takes 10 years for discussion , Calgary is always like this , talk more than action . I do not believe this city can do anything

[@uzzfra7975]

almost 3 years and basically no work done.

[@Thegoatt84]

Hurts... Ffs

[@wandaborowy9400]

I will probably be dead by the time this is finished.

[@CnekYT]

I think more thought should be put into the names of stations, it'd suck to have two Centre Streets or two 4 Streets on the network and it makes it really confusing for new riders I think some stations very easily could and SHOULD get renamed such as: - 96 Ave N -> Harvest Hills - 64 Ave N -> Huntington - 40 Ave N -> Highland Park - 28 Ave N -> Tuxedo - 9 Ave N -> Crescent Heights - 7 Ave SW -> Central - Centre Street S -> Beltline OR Connaught - 4 Street SE -> East Crossing/Stampede OR Railtown/Stampede - 26 Ave SE -> Crossroads OR Crossroads Market - Shepard -> East Shepard

[@Thegoatt84]

Please make this happen 😢, and keep us at home with our families. We are tired of driving between home and Fort Mac every 7 days for work...

[@ItzKKPlaysYT]

Its happening on 2024

[@imperialdoggo5826]

2027

[@Sbigrox]

more underground stations/lines the better

[@dwightseufert6491]

11-14 times as much $$ per km when you tunnel. Just sayin'.

[@ItzKKPlaysYT]

👍

[@YYCkidsnewsYT]

Isn’t it silly that they are going under the river instead of over?

[@prifmirus8543]

the video is pretty outdated, current plan is to go over the river

[@YYCkidsnewsYT]

@@prifmirus8543 Ok, got it!

[@mapleLIFE]

Will this line take the whole day to ride???? Im falling asleep watching this 😴😴😴😴😴

[@Jeff-wu9fo]

City of Calgary needs to show it's costumers the details for the LRT, so the video is slowed down to show the details.

[@ACSMusicSounds]

mapleLIFE should be about a 50 minute train ride from North to south

[@atzonaftaniel4798]

Even these computer rendered presentations cost tons of money let alone the cost for this project

[@joannegaalaas5428]

I would like to see the whole greenline underground. Putting the LTR above ground causes to much disruption for the communities that the train goes through. Has the city looked at what bus routes are being replaced by the LRT? Are they creating pull ins at all stops for the buses. I see that in some areas Centre Street is reduced to 1 lane and not having bus pull ins slows down traffic all the way to downtown. I understand that the idea is to increase ridership on the LRT instead of driving but there will still be drivers and they need to be considered in this plan along with public transit commuters, reducing the lanes down to 1 lane in places does not make sense. I believe that the city is being short sited in their plan. Put it all underground so that it does not disrupt our communities.

[@carbonblack6880]

that would cost a lot more

[@rdsieben]

@@carbonblack6880 Calgary can afford it.

[@battlestar79]

Joanne Gaalaas - there are strategic locations where LRT can and should be built either above or below ground, like at major arterial road crossings, over freeways including over the interchange ramps, etc. But the more that can be built at-grade (ground level), including stations, the cheaper it is to build, and easier it is for users to access the stations. All options have pros and cons. It must be noted to that in order to transition from ground to tunnel or ground to elevated, it takes a longer distance for the slope for the train to be able to climb vs what road vehicles can do. That impacts station locations because stations are generally built on level and straight sections only Relative cost of construction per Kilometer in order of cheapest to most expensive (taking into account all construction in the corridor): $ Surface / At-Grade. $$ Trench / Cut and Cover (ie Calgary 17 Ave SW). $$$ Elevated (ie like Vancouver SkyTrain). $$$$$ Tunnelled (ie Downtown Edmonton / Subway style).

[@TheBCRailfan]

This line should use Siemens S70 LRVs as their low floor LRVs!

[@Trackside_magpie_7535]

Agreed

[@angelsworking]

Now just start building.....have this done before more kids grow up and hate transit...

[@youarenotspecial]

by the time it is built tickets will only be $5.

[@Ramsayrider]

I love all the rendered compact cars as if most of Calgary doesn't drive vanity trucks and SUVs to go for groceries.

[@drprogensteinphp]

This video is 7 years old. Much has changed in terms of the city's Greenline planning, in particular the tunneling. They should really take this video down and upload a new one. The city also seems to be very hush-hush when it comes to this project. There's not a lot of up-to-date accurate information available to the public.

[@jackgunn1480]

Have they removed the tunnel from the plans?

[@thelilypadwarrior3755]

hi mr perfects class how are you guys doing today

[@jasonwang1636]

pretty good, how are you?

[@thelilypadwarrior3755]

@@jasonwang1636 good thanks

[@RR-us2kp]

When shown like this, you can see how much of space is just wasted for cars. About 70% of all the land in the area is for roads and parking. The rest is for people.

[@adeebighani3976]

Why did the trains change half way through?

[@rogerleach8564]

I recommend that the line goes underground north of 20th Ave NW which is a East West feeder road for all communities from Banff Trail to 6th St NE.

[@deifor]

The parts where the ground breaks like an earthquake and goes down is going to be costly.

[@wesderngentleman8820]

And pop back in downtown is gonna be a huge surprise

[@AdrianCalgary]

Great project

[@davebloggs]

I will believe it when i see it.

[@alanjones3338]

Add labels to all the streets it parallels and crosses! Help us understand where it is at all times!

[@kunalthereal]

Future 36th street. Can't wait. :/

[@leahk9472]

Going over Deerfoot on the south leg, if that doesn't sum it up for ya...Deerfoot isn't moving! Lmao

[@Trackside_magpie_7535]

Lol

[@ytrade469]

This is a model, the real train line will be built in 2030. So keep watching until you die

[@Colourfulskixx]

there's more then 1 underground station? i assumed there was only 1

[@drprogensteinphp]

Yeah, but keep in mind this video is 7 years old. Much has changed in terms of the city's Greenline planning, in particular the tunneling. They should really take this video down and upload a new one. The city also seems to be very hush-hush when it comes to this project. There's not a lot of up-to-date accurate information available to the public.

[@mimozapumo2642]

Cant Wait! Awesome!

[@WrightWright-ej6mv]

Interesting...I’m guessing if construction starts within the next 4 too 6 years and completed in phases let’s see this by 2030 2034 completion from North too south....

[@codywohlers2059]

center street to 1 lane?

[@AustinSersen]

I'm sure that a decision on which low floor LRVs the Green Line is going to use is a decision that will be made much further down the road, but I am curious to see (what appears to be) the Flexity Outlook vehicles used in the renderings. My concern with that would be that they have a 70km/h top speed whereas Siemens S70 vehicles have a top speed around 100km/h I think. Regardless, I look forward to learning more about the possible vehicles that will be used when that decision nears!

[@Raynebow]

To come back on your comment (years later, aheh), looks like they're going with CAF Urbos 3. Also a 70km/h top speed. Still, it'll be nice to finally have low-floors in the city. Whenever they start running, anyway.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

Why in gods name would albertans buy anything from Quebec? Especially when we can get better products from anywhere else on the planet.

[@bareassnewfie]

Why is this not going to the Airport? someone mentioned a sky train would be a 1/3 the cost...pffft it would blow over in Calgary so the cost of putting it back together every year would add up :D on another note what is with the c-train crap, build a proper subway and bury it all.... in for a penny in for a dollar i guess. It would be quite the undertaking however and i am sure that will not be the final product.

[@markauditor7873]

Lemos Snorkal too expensive.

[@bareassnewfie]

I know, but one could wish right, :)

[@imperialdoggo5826]

I don’t know why we didn’t build the blue line to the airport in the first place.

[@CyndiLH]

Can you please update this video with current alignment?

[@drprogensteinphp]

Yeah, this video is 7 years old. Much has changed in terms of the city's Greenline planning, in particular the tunneling. They should really take this video down and upload a new one. The city also seems to be very hush-hush when it comes to this project. There's not a lot of up-to-date accurate information available to the public.

[@gordo1851]

Build the entire North Line above ground like Vancouver Skytrain; green strips and bike paths run along beneath, and grid roads continue to pass beneath. Land is used to the max. But instead the usual short-sighted city planners have decided to blow the budget on a subway from downtown to about 23rd Ave N., then ruin scenic Centre Street north of that, similar to the barren moonscape of LRT along 36 St. N.E.. Subways cost roughly 10x as much as surface track, build and elevated train. And aside from destroying scenic Centre Street North, what bonehead has decided to throw Centre St. through Highland and Tuxedo entirely to the dogs by reducing traffic to one lane, and only there? Give your heads a shake city planning; you want to spend $B's, so rip out a row of houses; huge gains for lesser pains. Centre street is a major traffic artery and should remain so, destroyed. Calgarians have to look back on short-sighted stupiditye of past planners (e.g. Crowchild Bridge/Memorial bottlenecks), and it looks like this will continue. When future city hall finally realizes the single lane blunder through Highland/Tuxedo has to be fixed, will Centre already be boxed in by high end real estate, approved by ignoramuses?!

[@gordo1851]

Here's an article giving relative costs of surface, vs elevated, vs underground LRT (paragraph 2). pedestrianobservations.com/2012/09/25/relative-costs-of-transit-construction/ As it mentions, these ballpark estimates depend on city, terrain, land costs etc. I used 10x costs above, taken from a recent radio interview of a city spokesperson.. Imagine how far they could build and elevated railway for the cost of proposed short subway north from downtown, and how the spirit of existing neighborhoods could be preserved. I've cycled the skytrain route from Vancouver to New Westminster and the neighborhoods remain quite nice, not slashed down middle with a ground level barrier. C of C, please elevate your vision. Thanks for the great vid.

[@rezakarim8774]

Great project get the it build and closing 1 centre street lane is not a big deal but maybe at level crossing and oprate the trains at 100 kph on the elevated section and in the seprate right of way part

[@imperialdoggo5826]

The trains can physically not go 100km, they would melt their axles.

[@BaconEsquire]

Traffic along Centre St is going to become even more of a nightmare when this is built. I hope to be moving out of this city by the time this is built.. Who thought running the train on ground was a good idea? Please fire those people and redesign this to be something that actually works.

[@brantstewart8550]

Cameron Welby it goes underground after it hits the heavier traffic areas haha.. This is also only one ofnthe designs they have planned

[@littlenorway3135]

Brant Stewart Well they missed a shit ton of road, at that rate

[@vajayna_eklhabouh]

Okay then, bye felicia!

[@bradiereboul9651]

Neato!

[@rezakarim8774]

Will there be to ways on the green line to enter downtown

[@Trackside_magpie_7535]

Anyone know the name of the song in the second half of the video?

[@kilo7941]

Why does it have to be Low Floor? Can't it be like a subway?

[@imperialdoggo5826]

Ironically, our current trains can be used in MetroRapid forms, as they do have the capability to act as a subway.

[@imgursdownvote4love771]

Where will the car barns be located?

[@priyankachangotra9320]

I wish i can draw

[@nanaokyere7141]

Some of these stops are so far apart and are in the middle of nowhere..

[@NewsBroadcasting]

my home sit right on top of the tunnel, will it affect my back yard water well?

[@battlestar79]

WN Continental Broadcasting - you should not have a water well in a municipality like a town or city like Calgary. In many communities, having a well violates the bylaws.

[@NewsBroadcasting]

@@battlestar79 it was grandfathered in from the old owners as they owned the land before it was calgary but good point

[@GsunnyGGamer]

Transit system on grade level sucks ass in Calgary, then they wonder why people choose to drive and live in the suburbs, no one wants to be standing at LRT station with minimal shelter and prone to delays with a car hitting a train at an intersection.

[@ThePurpleMage1]

they should use high floor instead

[@AceYYC]

LMAO Centre Street is going to be absolutely and royally fucked

[@davekiesman2202]

Probably won't be in my lifetime.

[@ItzKKPlaysYT]

The phase one is starting 2024 (i hope)

[@Hustlervickers]

As the City of Calgary gets bigger road traffic will increase, as a city of over a Million people do you not want to plan for the future. Wouldn’t it be a smart idea and a safe idea to remove all level crossings and any interaction between Pedestrians, Cars/Truck and Trains that meet at the transit lines? Having trains lines running down the center of main road is a terrible idea, removing a lane of traffic on an already tight road for space will make things worse for public safety. Plus you throw in level crossing at ever road intersection makes me think the City of Calgary and the city planners have no idea what you are doing. Having to stop at level crossing will cause bottle necks at intersections, causing loss of productivity across the city and not to mention the safety of the public and road users. How many deaths will there be because First Responders are stuck in traffic because of congestion caused by level crossing. Have you not studied the traffic flow and congestion caused by the existing rail lines in the city, have you not heard of the deaths caused by pedestrians being hit by trains. Why are the public being hit by trains, it’s because stations are designed wrong, intersections are congested and you allow traffic to come in close proximity to trains. Google Melbourne and the removal of Level Crossing, google Singapore and platform safety barriers, if you want more people to travel on the transit system make it better, make it safer for all not just pedestrians. It may cost more but it will SAVE LIVES and you grandchildren will thank you

[@battlestar79]

I agree with your points regarding grade separations. At-grade crossings only make sense where 1) there is at least 400m between a rail crossing and a road-to-road intersection 2) crossing collector or local roads with low vehicle volumes. For rail crossings on arterial roads, especially one where intersections are immediately adjacent to the rial line, grade separations should always be used. The best alternative techniques are: 1) Cut-and cover (trench) method (cheaper than full tunnel boring, and can still tie stations into surrounding community with relative ease/simplicity, not as destructive/invasive). Cut and cover method does however conflict with any buried utility crossings. 2) Elevating...advantage is the supporting columns/pylons can be spaced to various lengths to bridge over roads, railways and buried utilities, etc. Other land uses can be accommodated under the elevated track guideways like parking, green spaces, plazas, etc. Trains do not interfere at all with vehicles, pedestrians, cyclists, animals and vice versa. In downtown's, the elevated stations can be tied directly into elevated pedways or adjacent second floor building lobbies.

[@billmair568]

Disappointed it wasn't a cab driver's view!

[@railroadhistoryarchives]

Keep underground so when snow happens it doesn't disrupt the trains

[@rezakarim8774]

Trains dont get delayed in snow

[@rdsieben]

Either have it part underground or above grade. No level crossings!!!!!!

[@ronochow]

Our drivers need to get a lot better, and perhaps if we all had requirements of snow tires, regular vehicle inspections, then it may be a possibility that level grade LRT may be a good and low risk option. But that is unlikely, therefore it would be better elevated, or underground. Considering the snow and weather in Calgary, underground would be most reasonable, however the costs associated with it may be undesirable. Increasing the population density around centre st. (which there are more apartments creeping up) may be able to justify the costs. For long term Calgary, if the population does keep increasing then underground would be likely a far better investment. The current plan seems like a recipe for disaster, with who knows how many traffic accidents occurring, low speed (inefficient) LRT and disruption of service.

[@georgejoshua94]

Build it asap pls

[@unforseenlikness]

I sure hope CoC monitors this comment section... What the heck are you doing with the center street north section!!! Keep it under ground. I can't believe that you'd actually think that running it at street level, in the middle of the road, is a good idea! So now there is going to be no 3 lanes for rush hour and it will be reduced to one lane each direction? Seriously guys wake up! A mass transit system should never interfere with the continuity and flow of vehicle traffic. Have you learned nothing from the colossal mistake that 36st is? Where are you finding your civil engineer's? Maybe this should be a provincial project?

[@Zorn27]

7 years later and majorly truncated :/

[@dylanronnquist1445]

More grid separation

[@ZMOA2006]

A total waste of money, they should expand the existing lines and leave this North people catch the bus

[@rezakarim8774]

Buses will get stuck in traffic

[@ItzKKPlaysYT]

Bruh homeless is gonna live in the tunnel stations and could you please make ticket gates so people won't sneak in without a ticket

[@victorservita5598]

well this aged like milk.

[@uzzfra7975]

Great project, but will take quite long.

[@MrFurley2u]

If City of Council can actually make common sense decisions without putting every issue out to a vote, grab a flipping back bone will ya. Green L. needs to underground. I hope this happens in my lifetime? Very nice graphic presentation though.

[@yousefaraba6970]

Skytrain of Vancouver is itself a tourist attraction which means bring in cash to Vancouver economy.

[@GsunnyGGamer]

what? that is so stupid, the westbrook line is significantly above grade and it does fine. Many major cities have a skytrain like system which work absolutely fine in the snow

[@michaelchristopher8266]

So what? Calgary's GDP per capita is already twice that of Vancouver's

[@rdsieben]

The Skytrain is much better than Calgary's.

[@FastCarsNoRules220]

Can they at least make the tracks elevated and underground so that it won't interfere with road users? Take a look at Singapore's MRT system for example. And also maybe add platform screen doors at every station, sure it can be expensive but it prevents homicide and people falling onto the tracks and stuff.

[@markauditor7873]

FastCarsNoRules220 its expensive

[@rdsieben]

Panama City's rapid transit is much much better than Calgary's. No level crossings!

[@jackgunn1480]

Grade separated crossings are expensive. I imagine the labour is much cheaper in Panama.

[@rdsieben]

Poor planning. Waste of taxpayer's money. I would like to see the line elevated or underground with no level signalized crossings!!!

[@jackgunn1480]

Ya, everybody would like that. Would you like to double your property tax bill?

[@jeya9139]

cars DON"T mix with train

[@rezakarim8774]

Well then calgary will be a smoky and inaccessible city if they dont do anything

[@andrewmerritt1459]

The bridge between New Brunswick and PEI only cost about 5 billion (1999). this thing running through the middle of center street is gonna cost 9.5 billion. Better yet, the city is still gonna keep the same bus routes on center. Center St will be a slum. I wont go near it. It takes just under 30 mins to drive from 16th ave to beddington now as it is.

[@codered9576]

Looks expensive, also looks like a 10 year project.

[@TimiGeorge]

Ugh this should be all underground. All the planners have to be fired. The city keeps making the sane damn mistakes and would sets why there's not a new outcome. Does it make any fucking sense to put this above ground on Center Street? When currently having it four lanes is not even enough to keep traffic flowing, does it make sense to take it down to one lane each direction?

[@brantstewart8550]

Tim George it goes underground in the conjested part of center street..

[@michaelchristopher8266]

If you can convince the provincial government to drop funding for all LRT projects in Edmonton, Calgary may be able to pay for a fully under or above ground system.

[@michaelchristopher8266]

Jason S no it'll cost 5-10X more

[@Blendeture]

Booyakasha

[@yousefaraba6970]

Translink's Canada Line - YVR Airport to Waterfront

[@lexielexie3653]

this is a lot like street car to be honest. it should be underground.

[@markauditor7873]

lexie lexie too expensive, unless you can convince the provincial government to stop funding edmonton too much

[@jackgunn1480]

@@markauditor7873 Huh? Calgary just got provincial funding for their new arena, and when Edmonton asked a few years ago we got a hard NO! We funded our own arena. Not only that, the province pays for the Deerfoot through Calgary. In Edmonton we have to pay for our own freeways. Trust me, Calgary is Alberta's sweetheart.

[@nassa5367]

BRUH

[@BYD_LRT]

The BYD Skyrail would have been the best choice for Calgary at 1/3 the cost with the entire 40 Km Green Line being completed within 5 years. en.byd.com/usa/skyrail/

[@yousefaraba6970]

Build the entire green line underground = better planning for generations to come. Less accidents, underground stations are warmer, less wear and tear of track (No need to shut down train service during the long weekend to do maintenance work, which is common problem in Calgary), do not interfere with traffic, etc. LRT- a prescription for disaster; LRT causes accidents resulting in death, destruction of property, traffic delays, street closures, and congestion. Hate LRT, It's slow compare to real metro, all the power line really kills landscaping makes streets look really ugly, and design of the car... really bad looking.

[@TimeTravelingBirds]

There something about the water level or something in Calgary which prevents this if I remember correctly. There was one made in the early days and it flooded? Something like that

[@yousefaraba6970]

This water level thing you heard it, from someone and he/she heard from someone else. It's a pure bullshit! Population is bound to increase which will lead to congestion.

[@johnvillanueva6487]

no kidding why is it on the ground? it should be high up like Vancouver or underground. this wastes so much time waiting for the train to cross every single road.

[@stefannakonechny2004]

For example the new LRT could be like the Capital line in Edmonton running down 111St. This extension in edmonton caused many issues with traffic and ruined the overall design of 111 St. Please don't make this mistake Calgary it will ruin the developed neighbourhoods.

[@michaelchristopher8266]

If you can convince the provincial government to drop funding for all LRT projects in Edmonton, Calgary may be able to pay for a fully under or above ground system.

[@paula9661]

I can see many places where I can get kill in a simple snow related accident by this C-train design that goes by the cars!! worse possible design. Traffic is gonna be worse. This C train is actually gonna go slower than the current one. I did the calculation and it is gonna take me more time from home to school than it takes me from the currently. And don't even mention that the stations are not gonna be sheltered!!! Is like the perfect transit solution for 1930 YYC. I actually asked them about the long commute time and they said it was not important because the train was for people who didn't have CARS!! . The train is for people like me who dont like driving because it is a waste of time to sit in a car, and who love the environment and prefer a clean city. Should not take more than 1hr to go from one side of the city to the other. They also told me that train by the cars, and the low plataform non-sheltered design was to integrate the C -train to the community (more like in Europe.). I dont think it does that at all. Have you seen the Freccia Ros in italy, or the trains in Hong Kong!!! that is integrating the community and providing services. we need to built for the future. By the time thsi project is completed in 2028 they are gonna have to start building it again. maybe have less stations but better built.

[@ShadowGamer507]

If you've ever driven on roads next to CTrains before, I'm sure it'll be just like that. With concrete barricades diving the two most of the time. I'd like to see the calculations you've made if you don't mind. What design would you propose? All elevated to minimize traffic & car accidents? Would be nice if money and unsightliness for houses weren't issues. All underground? that's one way to put us in a trillion dollars of debt lol. I think it'll be a much needed transit option, hopefully take some cars off the road in the long run, etc. It was a hassle driving from my house to Panorama Hills for summer school, I was happy to see the station there so my brother won't suffer the same peril.

[@paula9661]

side by side with barricades is ok, but then there are the intersections at the lightpost. I am not sure if they can do much in the middle of the city where is heavy built but at the ends of the city there is plenty of land to have the trains go away from the cars. anyways this thing has been approved already. I just hope i am wrong. and I also hope if they built the winter shelters out of glass, they give then rotating doors so the cold doesn't come in each time someone opens the door. Those glass shelters suck.

[@brantstewart8550]

Paula Ospina most would rather not have to walk 20 minutes after we get off at a station just because there isnt enough stations forbthe track.. Dumbass

[@littlenorway3135]

As someone who recently resigned from working all the way at the Deerfoot Outlet Mall area (The Rec Room), I can see a lot of problems here, despite the decently good idea. Specifically with all the vehicle and pedestrian traffic on Centre St., not to mention Centre St. is pretty developed and sees a lot of foot and vehicle traffic for the shady street it is

[@Daniel-xp1jy]

Lmao only 12 centuries to go guys!

[@paultavares3125]

Reading these comments people just bitch and complain about anything in there cities. Just be glad you have an LRT system in Calgary and a properly planned city with well kept roads. I live in Winnipeg and we can only dream of a transit system like calgary,s.

[@michaelchristopher8266]

It would be silly for Winnipeg to have an LRT system because New Flyer Industries (probably North America's largest bus manufacturer) is headquartered in Winnipeg.

[@jackgunn1480]

@@michaelchristopher8266 That's not the reason. LRT is too expensive for a city the size of Winnipeg.

[@jackgunn1480]

I've learned that, no matter where you go, people bitch and complain about their own cities. I think they always think everything is better in other cities.

[@stephenmerritt5750]

This is the worst design possible. Where are the cars going to go? Deerfoot trail would have to accommodate 20 thousand extra cars per day just because of this train at ground level.

[@nassa5367]

💀 ≤))≥ _| \_ are u serious rn

[@rmcrae62]

Wouldn't it be easier just to give every Calgarian a jetpack?

[@joshuabom64]

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