Green Mountain Railroading on the Rutland

[@MultiCrusher2]

I wish they had more trains in Northern New England.We need them.

[@Bushappy]

Although I am from NYC, I spent three summers on a dairy farm on Shunpike Rd near Mt Holly which was about 1/2 mile cross the field from rte 103 and the Rutland tracks in 1939-1941. It was on the grade leading to the Summit station so the engines were laboring up the grade south/eastbound. Every spare moment that I had, I was down at the Summit station talking to the agent and watching the trains. I must have had an eager look on my face one day as the engineer lifted me up into the cab and I stayed while they switched cars from the siding on a southbound freight. Something any kid would never forget!!!

[@novemberrain212]

This is beyond wonderful. My grandfather was a boiler maker for the Rutland, and my I grew up hearing stories from my dad, and we would chase the trains from East Clarendon where we lived up to Mt. Holly, or maybe as far as Summit if I begged. Thanks for posting.

[@tomdarmo1031]

It's really cool seeing the 4-8-2 in action. I have a bell from one of the 4-8-2 Green Hornets, I'm not sure which one it can from, but there is a one in 4 chance it came from No 92.

[@VTconductorchris]

Marvelous footage. A real treasure.

[@NorthEasternMotionProductions]

3:35 using bell lengths and notes, I can confirm that horn being the elusive Leslie A-125-3e.

[@brutusbarnabus8098]

Was hoping for some period footage of the Chester Depot. Hard to believe the photographer didn't capture any covering that section of rail. I travel route 103 when I head back north to visit family. Was easy to recognize a lot of the terrain and crossing even though the film is ~70 years old. 6:35 Middlebury is where I went to high school. Grew up in Weybridge which is the next town northwest. Really enjoyed this video.

[@greenmtnman7714]

Great footage! Thanks so much for sharing.

[@buixrule]

Unbelievable footage. Thanks for sharing!

[@shininghappyperson7]

Wow, I've been looking for some footage like this as long i can remember. The shot at Manchester is amazing, i was just there today saying man i would kill to see a B&M passenger train here. We all know that this all actually happened but sometimes its hard to believe, excellent video!

[@gigigregory3043]

Loved riding the steamtown trains as a kid in Bellows Falls vt

[@tylergreen4843]

1:35 it's sad these are so underrated, yet they look cool😣

[@richhood9934]

Great video! All that's missing is coverage of the east end, from Ogdensburg to Rouses Point.

[@joeyfrench4517]

Diesels and steam locomotives on Rutland railroad are working together as a team

[@alcampbell6832]

Oh ! For a modern video camera and a time machine. Damn good for sixty plus years old technology. Al

[@JohnStark72]

Wish you had some footage of the Clarendon & Pittsford.

[@andreialexiev7858]

I think you mean Clarendon and Pittsford.

[@JohnStark72]

@@andreialexiev7858 You're right. My mistake.

[@andreialexiev7858]

I left Vermont years ago. I have only a very vague memory of the green Rutland Alco units. I remember them better in the Vermont Railway red color. Did you experience the Clarendon and Pittsford? I think they got the Rutland GE 70 Tonner, when the Rutland shut down in 1961.

[@sjwhitney]

Well, we take what we can get! Given that it was the early 1950's we can't ask for much more. I believe that the last scene is not dubbed. A little known fact is that the Rutland RS-1's and early RS-3's were delivered with air horns that has issues. Alco subsequently sent the Rutland Leslie S3J replacements. Speculation abounds as to what those first horns were and what they sounded like.

[@wilmeaux12]

As I recall, the early ALCO.s delivered to the Tennessee Central had a deep tone, much like an ocean liner, as in the Cunard Queens. They were soon changed out. Likely the same story.

[@rexjamison2170]

just a great video

[@robertgift]

I'd much rather see more steam locomotives and their intricacies than common ordinary railcars. But was fun seeing the old smaller railcars. If filming railcars, I'd want them to go by more slowly to see detail and to also see the caboose at the end. I remember seeing the common railcars and occasionally newer larger cars among them. Now they are all the larger railcars and I never see the old cars.

[@robertgift]

"Well, we take what we can get!" Yes. Sad that Fred did not do those things mentioned. (Many thought it "proper" to have the subject enter and exit the frame.) Many black steam locomotives were filmed from the shady side. (As a child using father's 8 mm camera in the 1960s, I purposely filmed from the sunny side.) "Speculation abounds as to what those first horns were and what they sounded like." Could those "horns" actually have been air whistles or steam whistles from engine steam generators?

[@oogdog90]

Absolutely stunning.

[@theark-la-missrailfan]

8:48 Fouled Leslie S5A Horn???

[@NorthEasternMotionProductions]

The unit itself had a s3j, but I think it came from another source. That or the s3j really sounds like a s5a.

[@theark-la-missrailfan]

Oh ok!

[@sjwhitney]

The RS-3's were delivered with Nathan M-3 horns. S3J was applied about a year later.

[@gusfring9895]

Do you plan to add an SSL certificate to the NMRO website anytime soon?

[@BrianXMoore]

Speak for yourself in respect of the "wasting film on common railcars"; it's the fact that the great majority of films like this usually ignore the actual train being pulled that makes the clip so fascinating. You may find them boring, but there are many more who don't.

[@tes420]

Brian Moore - Who are you talking to?

[@tes420]

Johnson Jackson - Who the fuck asked you???

[@rickkilimun5430]

Many years ago my family used to take U.S. 2 through the Champlain Islands, and at Rouses Point we would see the remnants of an old railroad trestle. Was this part of the Rutland?

[@andreialexiev7858]

Yes, it was. I went to Camp Abenaki two summers in a row, 1965 and 1966. We walked over remains of the old roasted.

[@andreialexiev7858]

Roadbed, sorry

[@mvg2x34]

This should qualify as hi speed rail!

[@wagrailroad]

Where is the road crossing at the 3:00 mark?

[@charlessteele2455]

wagrailroad believe that's on RT 103, I'm trying to place it myself as I'm through there a few times a week but guessing it's the first crossing heading south from rt 7, but the house isn't there anymore?

[@sjwhitney]

Gaynor's Crossing on Rt 103. Very popular photo location. Same place as the first scene.

[@NorthEasternMotionProductions]

8:49 High speed Leslie s3jr exept the 440 bell is facing you and every other bell isn't.

[@sjwhitney]

Actual sound but the recording isn't that good. The RS-3 is brand new, and they were delivered with Nathan M-3 horns. The S3J would be applied within a year of receiving these.

[@NorthEasternMotionProductions]

@@sjwhitney which I don’t get why they started with those, other than if they were built in 1950.

[@NorthEasternMotionProductions]

@@sjwhitneyyou can also absolutely hear a m3 in the video, but I think it’s just the RS-3 that’s coupled to the steam train that’s using it.

[@sjwhitney]

@@NorthEasternMotionProductions - I really don't know why they switched except that the S3J was well liked. I certainly liked it right up until somebody stole the one off the 405. Pissed me off!!!

[@NorthEasternMotionProductions]

@@sjwhitney yea likewise, especially considering how they are incredibly rare

[@sjwhitney]

Gaynor's Crossing - VT Rt. 103. I just finished adding footnotes to the video with better descriptions.

[@ford8609]

Use to be an old Jersey cow in hillside pasture in back.

[@robertgift]

1:15 Mee-mool lights (o)T(o) are wired incorrectly! Unfortunate that the camera is on the shaded side of the train and does not follow the locomotive as it goes by, instead wasting film on common railcars. 4:20 Wish they had filmed the semaphore changing. Great shot at 6:50 GET ON THE SUNNY SIDE! Fake sound (steam locomotive whistle) at 8:55? Fun film but with a little thought could have been much better.

[@johnhirtle4300]

That music makes me psychotic!

[@richardheizmann2756]

Rutland, Ontario & Western and Lehigh New England all lost their reason to exist in the 1950's. They never had much to begin with.

[@clydejenne4055]

MR Gift obviously walks on water!