Greens Demand More Electric Vehicles, but DONT Want to Mine for the Resources!

I guess we're expected to just spawn copper and other materials out of thin air.
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[@adriansanmartin5773]

Sorry little african child miners, but those batteries are a must. The greens demand it!

[@ayanned]

It is a sacrifice they're willing to make.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

They dont want EVs, they just dont want you to have a vehicle. They want you to suffer, how they do it doesnt much matter to them.

[@MoreEvilThanYahweh]

Reminder that a significant portion of a certain side of the spectrum WANT to drag down the first world to crappier standards and living quality because it will somehow redistribute wealth or something to the rest of the world. That's why modern politicians can get elected despite openly promising more taxes, regulations and making life harder for people.

[@caveatlector2671]

It's all about control and creating a new Feudal-like global social order.

[@Thalanox]

They also want fine grained control over as much of other people's lives as they can get.

[@varnix1006]

It would not be a problem when a town is designed to be walkable. However western automotive industries lobbied to not do that because people would buy less car and spare parts. These activists are fools attacking the wrong people with the wrong motivation.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

@@varnix1006 is this another one of those "car companies tricked people into paying for roads so theyd have a place to drive their cars" things, because a car company paying money to convince individuals to want what they naturally want is kind of absurd and ingores every walkable city we already have.

[@dagrumblers]

Said it years ago but nobody believed me back then, but green tech is worse for the environment than what we already had.

[@pattonramming1988]

They'll cite claims of clean emissions while ignoring habitat destruction and the pollution of rivers and degradation of soil

[@ARockRaider]

not only is the new tech worse on first glance, it gets worse the more you look into it.

[@wrongthinker843]

Yep. It's far less efficient and at least as polluting, if not more.

[@jpteknoman]

This reminds me of a quote "my leather jacket requires the death of a single animal, it will last for 20 years and is made of biodegradable materials. Your synthetic leather jacket that is supposed to save animals will be ruined in 3 years, will never decompose because its made of plastic and the process of making and disposing of it does overall more damage to the planet and the animals than mine. who of us cares for the planet more i wonder?"

[@LeeroyPorkins]

If they were really for the planet, they'd get horses

[@MephiticMiasma]

do not step in exhaust

[@dances_with_incels]

Horses fart so they would most likely kill them

[@dmcoub78]

They fart.

[@nomadman5288]

And ride bikes.

[@danwalter2175]

But horses emit methane and consume large quantities of grains and grasses, which would then have to be hand reaped to not use oil. Nah, they don't want to accept geothermal or nuclear even as a bridge to other (as yet undiscovered) power sources.

[@agoogleaccount2861]

Wind powered cars because politicians full of hot air

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Nothing more enviromentally friendly than walking. Watermelons should take a long walk off an enviromentally friendly short pier.

[@GURGLEGUY12345]

Watermelons?

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

@@GURGLEGUY12345 green on the outside, red on the inside. Commies wearing an environmental facade.

[@ericp0012]

@@GURGLEGUY12345They are green on the outside and red on the inside.

[@GURGLEGUY12345]

@@ericp0012 As in...environmentalism and communism?

[@caveatlector2671]

@@GURGLEGUY12345 Think about it... the green is a facade to force people to accept the red.

[@Mate397]

These people think electric cars spawn like in a videogame.

[@caveatlector2671]

They are mentally and emotionally indistinguishable from toddlers.

[@t.kersten7695]

not to mention all the electric energy needed for all of that - all from "green" and "enviromental friendly" sources and without a proper system to store overproduction for later use at times of lesser to none power output.

[@Mate397]

@@t.kersten7695 Yea... we saw what happened in California and other places. The grid couldn't handle the demand for the charge stations. And God forbid we use that "evil" nuclear power that is far more efficient and by now far safer.

[@varnix1006]

They all think everything is spawned from thin air anyway.

[@Mate397]

Where did my comment go? Is KZbin censoring nuclear energy now too?

[@cloudfair2]

This is like the teacher expecting you to complete a test but refuses to give you a pencil or ask someone else for one.

[@brothergrimaldus3836]

The best reason not to buy an EV... because the government wants you to. There is not enough lithium and copper on the entire planet for everybody to be driving one and they know this. It's to keep everybody from traveling freely. If you're stuck just in your tiny area, they can control you better.

[@markcarpenter6020]

And it's not actually practical if you live in areas prone to disasters like tornadoes and hurricanes or in places that get cold. Temps near freezing reduce battery efficiency drastically.

[@MoreEvilThanYahweh]

"But what about mass transit?". Good luck leaving your assigned areas (home and workplace for example) when you need some combination of social credit and cashless payment to take a train or bus.

[@MoreEvilThanYahweh]

@@markcarpenter6020 Not like the leadership care about such "edge cases"

[@markcarpenter6020]

@@MoreEvilThanYahweh LMAO. Funny thing is the US has some of the most extreme weather events on earth. At least for inhabited areas. So it's only edge cases to people who live in LA and San Francisco.

[@MoreEvilThanYahweh]

@@markcarpenter6020 Did you not see my use of quotations?

[@PlasmaMongoose]

They want the equivalent of fried ice.

[@daviddesrosiers1946]

These are the same kinds of people that think food comes from the grocery store. If you haven't figured out this is malicious undermining from within, I don't know what to tell you.

[@Thane36425]

This is what happens when you don't teach kids how things are made. They don't know electrical things use copper, nor that food comes from farms. An easy solution would be to put them in cities that can be made into 15 minute cities. They'd only need electric cars for uber and emergency types. Once they are there, they could pretend the whole rest of the world has ceased to exist, or whatever else they dream up in their cubicles, watching VR, and eating their bugs.

[@travissmith2773]

Make them learn All the things we crack out of oil.

[@strategicperson95]

Not only that, but even just making electricity at the most efficient still requires the burning of fuel to create that electricity they want. This is basic stuff even School House Rock taught back in the 70s.

[@jameslovell8104]

They also want to eliminate farming but continue to eat. Nothing "green" works in the real world.

[@edwardmcgarthwaite7771]

I think I enjoy the tacit confession that EVs are too polluting the most. Yeah... That's the stuff

[@Pariatech]

Rare earth exporters are rubbing their hands real hard.

[@nickkorkodylas5005]

Cool it with the sinophobic remarks...

[@ericp0012]

I guess the greens have a love hate relationship with multinationals.

[@merafirewing6591]

Reject Electric Vehicles, Return to Gaso-powered Vehicles.

[@stalwartnerd]

Reject gas powered vehicles, return to horse.

[@merafirewing6591]

@@stalwartnerd honestly for both horse and gas-powered vehicles are better options, because none of them don't have short battery life in cold areas.

[@mrgreensuit7379]

They make copper really expensive. The junkies are gonna love this as they're stealing traffic lights for salvage.

[@nickn1782]

This isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. If you force a transition to electric cars and then can’t manufacture them or can’t charge them, then you have effectively ended private cars.

[@zealotmaster1]

heres your cake but remember you CANT EAT IT!!

[@stormstrider]

The carbon they want to reduce is people.

[@strategicperson95]

It certainly the part the Eco terrorists don't want to admit to. Otherwise it's an easy "just like the Austrian Painter" card to pull on them.

[@oniarrca9431]

Hint: invest in copper now.

[@GrimmundusRex]

In fairness, they _have_ been coming up with less environmentally impactful ways of gathering rare-earth metals. Specifically filtering it out of wastewater from fracking and from water leaching minerals from specific lakebeds.

[@trevynlane8094]

A shame they don't scale. And use lots of dirty coal power.

[@wrongthinker843]

Too bad those methods have very low output and cost significant energy, huh?

[@SkellyTonn]

[Was watching The Poor Man's Podcast (Channel on YT,) just now and the climate activists threw another tantrum at a car prototype showing! The show was revealing the latest models for sale! But the protesters went on to pour deisel all over the stage and on the centerpiece car on display! That car was an Electric Vehicle!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣]

[@Sukharno2121]

China: I don't need to control all industry, just every cheap parts the other industries need.

[@ottobaron6392]

They want you to live in 15 minute cities, so you won't need a car.

[@ericp0012]

They complain about mining resources, unless they are being used to build linear cities.

[@naughtyhieroglyph669]

Take a look at the ships in AIS, and realize that not a single one of those has a catalectic converter. If they wanted to stop greenhouse gases they would have been working on cleaner shipping.

[@adriansanmartin5773]

There are tons of things they could do in general but won't. They prefer to export or dump their issues so others somehow solve them.

[@kon-lun-os-kuh-pee571]

Theirs technology to turn seawater in fuel for ships the military uses it but it’s not very efficient yet

[@brothergrimaldus3836]

They use urea in newer ships. Same as DEF. Cats don't work everywhere. Try to keep up.

[@merafirewing6591]

And cruise ships use bunker fuel.

[@VorkKnightOfGood]

Almost as if they have no vision (or else they'd realise how their demands overlap and conflict with one another) or understanding of how the world works...

[@montyturner6511]

Don't take them seriously. They really don't understand what they want.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

That is because they are waiting to be told what they want.

[@user-ef9hr8vh6l]

Don't EVER Buy a Car that Requires Updates and a connection to the Internet

[@tristanbackup2536]

Space mining. Problem solve.

[@allenkrust4410]

And that is the countries enemies strengthen themselves.

[@carlrood4457]

There's actually already begun a pivot back to hybrids. The early adopters already have their EVs and normies either don't want to pay the extra expense or are in wait and see mode as you often get with new tech.

[@TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture]

Copper Mining Vans - i've seen a few of those - 4/5 guys in a panel van with cordless angle grinders... Oh you said Bans... my bad I heard Vans

[@acacacacacacaccaca7666]

Combo breaker

[@madmanmark08]

Worked for Rio Tinto. Mining is an essential business

[@XperimentorEES]

Just goes to show america should never have outsourced their agriculture and industry. The fall from how productive it was during the world wars is bloody shameful.

[@ZealotOfSteal]

NIMBY (not in my back yard) at it's finest.

[@movespammerguyteam7colors]

That lithium and copper isn’t going to mine itself now is it? Plus electric only vehicles don’t have the endurance and hauling power that gas or diesel vehicles do. I suggest making Ironman’s Ark reactor instead of batteries, but what the hell do I know?

[@TheZombieburner]

I need copper. It's what they use in jacketed ammo, I need LOTS of that!

[@evildoughboy7773]

Nothing like the Mantra of, I want my cake and eat it too.

[@sirg-had8821]

They truly are worthless.

[@oriongear2499]

I'd rather own and drive a Manual Toyota Corolla Hatchback than a Tesla Model S.

[@QueenAleenaFan]

The government shouldn't be able to mandate this stuff

[@kon-lun-os-kuh-pee571]

I’m not opposed to ev but the technology isn’t their yet

[@brothergrimaldus3836]

They've been trying electric vehicles for over a hundred years... It's not going to work.

[@merafirewing6591]

​@@brothergrimaldus3836 it's nothing but a novelty vehicle.

[@markcarpenter6020]

Considering they have been trying to make them since the 1800s makes you really wonder how long it will take for the tech to get there. To make environmentally friendly EVs requires tech and materials that either haven't been created yet or are extremely expensive to make and only in the prototype stage.

[@merafirewing6591]

@@markcarpenter6020 which is probably why internal combustion engines will reign for a very long time.

[@markcarpenter6020]

@@merafirewing6591 and that's not even including the fact that outside an urban setting EVs aren't practical. They are impractical for long distance shipping, and if you live anywhere prone to natural disasters like tornadoes and hurricanes you can end up without a vehicle and at temperatures close to freezing battery efficiency drops off drastically. In short EVs are only useful to people who don't drive very far. In short they are as practical for transportation as an electric golf cart.

[@thesurnamewithnoname7188]

This is why I dispise the greens. They make EVERY aspect of life harder and more complicated than it needs to be.

[@carlrood4457]

I can't tell you the number of times I've read these idiots commenting how future technology will overcome these hurdles and there's no reason to worry. They have no idea that technology can plateau for any number of reasons. For example commercial airliners are slower today than 50 years ago because of the balance between fuel efficiency, speed, and capacity. We know HOW to go faster, but it uses a hell of a lot more fuel and the design requires a slimmer passenger cabin, so fewer passengers. SSTs aren't commercially feasible, especially when considering things like video conferencing meaning that businesses don't need people to travel as much.

[@user-qh6sg1dp1o]

China will grow stronger and I'm all for it, mostly because it's funny.

[@bluecoin3771]

Restaurants in China wash their vegetables in the toilet 🚽.

[@domomitsune5920]

How are we supposed to have more electric vehicles when we can't even mine for the materials to make the vehicles and the electrical and batteries. Eco people, want more electric vehicles, what you can put more demand and therefore more fuel exhaustion for supplies. Okay, then what are your ideas then, if you're going to be mandating this.

[@ConservativeSatanist666]

@Raging Golden Eagle They are not clowns. 1) They aren't clowns. Clowns are funny (all tragedies amusing from a distance until it happens to you) 2) clowning is a actual profession althoughal a dying one whereas being woke was never professional to begin with.. and it destroys all it touches 😅

[@johngray3449]

They just made cars into a new type of white goods, throw away cars great for the environment, batteries going to be dead on avg in about 5 years.

[@wrongthinker843]

I think every "greenie" must be forced to watch how these batteries are disposed of. Up close.

[@chrisellioitt5240]

Solar, wind, ev are majority China. China owns majority of those raw minerals in their creation. China and Russia and Middle East pay for protests and activists in west to protest west as it is their competition in fossil fuels! They want west energy dependent on them. China make vast majority of solar panels. China make majority of wind turbines as it requires about 40 tons of coal to forge the metal alone. (Creation is over 3/4 of it projected lifelong output. Any problem in it life time of use and it negative total from creation input) Ev China has the market cornered on so meany ore and parts almost no ev made on the planet does not have China materials and parts! This is why Tesla is also in China it requires China to build a Tesla. Meaning China might have remote access to every ev they have part installed in. That is millions of remote movable blockades or high speed rams at targets. (Remotely block or wipe out another country infrastructure) All ev are collecting your data and watch you on multi cameras by default, a security risk due to remote access by hostile country (hardware or software), battery explosions hazard, burn transport ship in ocean hazard, transfers west wealth and control to China.

[@vexile1239]

Keep in mind that the coal china can dig up in their country is incredibly impure (85% impurity) so they rely on other countries coal

[@MakeLoveNotWar687]

🍿 being a good Christian boy?

[@lordcommissarspartan]

The solution is simple. Have Elon start building the equipment for a shipyard on Luna, and start mining the Copper and other precious metals necessary for the manufacturing from nearby asteroids. We can do the math to send out missiles and Explosives to alter the trajectories of celestial bodies to bring them closer for refinement in near earth orbit or on Luna itself.

[@travissmith2773]

We could be sending ice to Mars in the process, but that would make sense.

[@wrongthinker843]

I hope this is an unsuccessful joke, rather than a serious statement.

[@lordcommissarspartan]

@wrongthinker843 half and half, I do think that we should be trying to mine out the asteroid belt. It'd solve half our issues as of yet, and especially solve the Green Cultists' issue of wanting everything electric without wanting to open the mines to get that material.

[@wrongthinker843]

@@lordcommissarspartan a) that's not feasible and won't be for decades, b) you deal with cultists by telling them to shove off.

[@MakeLoveNotWar687]

Hey RG gringo an offensive term I like to be called the Unholy son pls from the Spanish community as assyrian christian pls.

[@MetaLord395]

Second!

[@brandonparker348]

First

[@GURGLEGUY12345]

Man dating? Sounds pretty gay to me.

[@pegeta]

Trump 2024

[@mgatelabs]

No one understands how large Alaska is, you have to take planes to get around, no reason not to exploit the land