Rocket Stove Water Heater Outdoor Shower | Part 3

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GreenShortz DIY

GreenShortz DIY

4 жыл бұрын

In this how-to video, I make a refined water tank design for my outdoor shower heated with a cobb and firebrick rocket stove. I incorporate some suggestions and tips from viewer comments. I use a 20-foot long copper coil to heat water flowing from a PVC water tank.. The tank is pressurized with a garden hose and also has a shower head, making the whole set up an outdoor shower.
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@johnkennedy827
@johnkennedy827 4 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to congratulate you on being able to take people's advice and use it instead of looking at it as criticism. Not many people can do that. Knowing that your idea may not be the best idea a lot of times leads to better Innovations in any endeavor.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and encouragement John. KZbin does require developing a thick skin. I try to look for the value in what people are saying, attempting to overlook how they sometimes say it. There are many more kind and supportive folks than trolls. With the trolls, I just try to empathize...their demeanor is more a reflection on how they've been treated by others. The old proverb, a kind answer turns away wrath...works most of the time. And you are correct about ideas. Lots of good stuff comes in the comments. Thanks for watching.
@abo3abid1
@abo3abid1 4 жыл бұрын
@@GreenShortzDIY You suck! Just kidding 😊 I'm one of the thousands of people that have been thinking of building a similar stove-powered water heater, and fretting the experimentation process. Thanks for saving us a lot of trial and error. That and most of your ideas didn't come to mind (like the siphon)
@marshalllhiepler
@marshalllhiepler 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenShortzDIY, You can emphasize with hecklers all you care to ... But, we're going to continue to step up our game. Ha. 😁 With regards to the stove/shower though ... There is a lot to be learned from the presence of safety devices on mass-manufactured heating devices. Your design (rather impressive, although my "inner heckler" is loathed to admit it) needs a "Pressure Relief Valve" to prevent a catastrophic event, while you are relaxing in the joyous stream of heated water. As it stands, your Clear Tubing/Bicycle Tube/ Copper Tube connection is serving as your Pressure Relief Valve. As you continue to improve this connection, and its ability to withstand pressure increases ... another point of your contraption will volunteer to release pressure, suddenly. -Not a problem, if you are wearing an asbestos "onezie". But, yer' not. While I commend you on your ideas, .y main objective associated with this comment is to prevent you from becoming maimed, or killed. (I know, we hecklers ruin all the fun in life.) The serious danger that needs to be kept in mind, is the real possibility of the water reaching its boiling point. This can (and will) happen without warning. One must not underestimate the energy release of steam pressure. It would happily burst your PVC apparatus into hot, nasty, flying shards of shrapnel ... which stand a good chance of ruining the whole experience. (Although it may also cause your vid to go viral.) You will have to weigh the pros and cons yourself. RECAP: PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE (And for God's sake; direct the discharge away from the humans.) 😁
@eeeckstrom
@eeeckstrom 3 жыл бұрын
And being open to other's ideas allows for better results of any endeavor. ✌
@adventureswithgrandpafoofy7769
@adventureswithgrandpafoofy7769 3 жыл бұрын
We used to have a wood-fired water heater as back-up to our electric water heater. I connected them together in parallel with plumbing Tees, and had gate valves if I wanted to isolate them into separate systems again. The best part was the wood-fired heater could now use the non-powered electric heater as storage because the heated water circulated in a loop between the two tanks until both were hot enough for a long hot shower. You could use a dead electric water heater as storage next to your setup, basically replacing your big PVC pipe with recycled insulated 50 GALLON tank.
@janetaylor4946
@janetaylor4946 4 жыл бұрын
As a grown-up Girl Scout, I came across your channel and watched in fascination. Hey, in Montana at G.S. Camp, we set milk jugs filled with water in the sun and used a golf T as a plug and presto environmentally friendly, DIY, hot water for hands and face washing. As for showers, I think we went home!
@antoinnaoun
@antoinnaoun 4 жыл бұрын
I like the way you're experimenting this, and the fact that you try your subscribers' recommendations and not to forget showing us some of your fails. Keep up the good content👍
@crypto_goldfish3607
@crypto_goldfish3607 Ай бұрын
Very cool, I think having the valves lower down would be more practical
@lancegregg3958
@lancegregg3958 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I love you are experimenting and being receptive to comments. That is the way we learn. I am appreciative of you sharing your your trials and results. In the near future, my wife and I will be will be going forward in an adventure to be as self reliant as possible. Just had a walk in our woods to decompress from the world. Nirvana.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lance.,just seeing your comment. Sometimes they don’t pop up to the top as new. I’m picturing your walk in the woods. The Japanese call it “forest bathing.” Such a great stress relief. Thank you for watching.
@TadashiYasahiro
@TadashiYasahiro 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 “trains coming”... there is literally a train down the street passing by and I’m like man that sounds realistic!
@MsGrannyGo
@MsGrannyGo 2 жыл бұрын
Loved your video. No such thing as failure when others can benefit from the experience you shared. I admire the feedback you acknowledged from your viewers.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the encouragement, Mo. Thank you for watching.
@kevinburgess6112
@kevinburgess6112 3 жыл бұрын
i agree with so many of the comments, you have a great gift in your personality to accept criticism being it good or bad. always willing to try other people’s ideas. i am a know it all but at least i know i am lol. I am trying to work on that, you seem like a great person, thank you for sharing
@rickvangunten4800
@rickvangunten4800 4 жыл бұрын
The upgrades are definitely an improvement. Fixing the leaks and keeping the system pressurized, should help bring the tank up to temp faster. Really enjoying following your progress.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and encouragement, Rick. Thanks for watching.
@o00oZu1o00o
@o00oZu1o00o 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing, but film it from farther away please, I don't understand how it works, I need to see the whole thing at once. It works really well wow!!
@flgardener1155
@flgardener1155 2 жыл бұрын
If you fill the copper tubing with water, cap the ends with tape and freeze it solid then you can bend the tubing into a tighter coil without kinking the tubing.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! Thank you. Thank you for watching.
@Amy_McFarland
@Amy_McFarland 4 жыл бұрын
I would use a 55 gal drum for this. Can't wait to try it in the spring!
@philipwall1025
@philipwall1025 3 жыл бұрын
As an hvac mechanic, I dont think you need an expansion tank but you could probably use an air elimination component to help you with thermal expansion. You know what you would normally see on boilers and water heaters.THX FOR THE VIDEO,GREAT JOB,AND KEEP LEARNING!
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Philip. I always appreciate wisdom from the pros. Thank you for the feedback.
@homermcclain7694
@homermcclain7694 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a fine system believe I'll build one thank you I'm already in the process of building a six-burner outdoor stove as well as a pizza oven in the middle of it and that's the way I'm going to hate my water up for the system inside the house
@plakor6133
@plakor6133 4 жыл бұрын
Nice project. I built a rocket stove for my shop last year, been using it a lot this year, that thing is fabulous. You shouldn't have any issues heating your water, only with getting too hot!
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Ha. True. Thanks for watching.
@shirleysmith3652
@shirleysmith3652 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say we recently discovered a video of yours while searching for information on rocket stoves. We’ve since watched a dozen or more and subscribed. We love that you arent too entertaining and hung up on editing your vids with all those ALMOST imperceptible glitches, and are sticking true to your apparent original goals of experimenting and sharing information. We get aggravated at all the people who leave comments who have probably never made anything but think they can tell you how to make improvements but admire your mild demeanor and how well you tolerate their criticisms. My favorite things are that you have subtle hints for your stoves and subscribing but i dont have to watch five minutes of you begging for thumbs ups and subscribers. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing.
@bashbash7170
@bashbash7170 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I love this Idea I am going to heat up my outdoor wooden bath tub
@jacklassley8002
@jacklassley8002 3 жыл бұрын
I had friends back in the 80s who lived in a Treehouse outside Telluride. They had a 100’ irrigation pipe running downhill from a creek, plugged all day while they worked in town. Come home every night to a hot shower.
@chrisgoldbach4450
@chrisgoldbach4450 4 жыл бұрын
Off grid living and my curiosity brought me here. Glad to see your patience hahah id be losing it. Wondering how you could collect water from a river, filter, heat and get pressure.
@wulfclaw4921
@wulfclaw4921 3 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Great work Yeah, I thought the tarp was a boulder at first. I've built my place amongst boulders. Excellent DIY guidance. THANKS, Wulfy
@carlosgermansanchezlizarra9629
@carlosgermansanchezlizarra9629 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU MR GREENSHORTZ A GOOD IDEA , SEE YOU LATER AND BE GOOD
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. Thank you for watching.
@frankenstein3163
@frankenstein3163 4 жыл бұрын
Love it.
@cynthiafisher9907
@cynthiafisher9907 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. You’re a cool guy.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement and thanks for watching, Cynthia.
@GregsGarage
@GregsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Stay warm Tom! Great to see the outdoor shower and the rocket stove fired up on Thanksgiving. I'm looking forward to more extensive testing to see how the PVC pipe holds up to the pressure. I'm also looking forward to a full test with a timer.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Greg. I think the bigger PVC I used is not recommended for pressure, so we’ll see how it goes. Happy Thanksgiving to you and Andrea.
@joriswagter8516
@joriswagter8516 4 жыл бұрын
Starting to look even better! Good to see you take feedback serious.🙂
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joris. Thanks for watching.
@modwrath810
@modwrath810 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how you listen and take note and use peoples comments to better your projects. Everybody learns and everybody grows with you for this. Well Done .
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. My goal is to always remain teachable. :-) Thank you for watching.
@bodivanbodivan3668
@bodivanbodivan3668 2 жыл бұрын
You're very humble man.. Thanks
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@stacylangford8015
@stacylangford8015 3 жыл бұрын
Go hybrid. Rocket mass. Cover it with a drum, plumb a flue lower on the drum, 4" at 10 feet tall. Should hold that amazing heat on the coil longer and hotter. Nice build, thanks for the video!
@cash1webster
@cash1webster 3 жыл бұрын
With the inlet valve open it will not exceed the pressure of the water system, but I agree with the other comment about a pressure relief in case you have the valves all closed. Looks like a fun project. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@michaelanderson9792
@michaelanderson9792 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up a half a mile from train tracks and when I was very young my grandparents watched me when my parents where working to buy our house my grandparents lived next to train tracks so I think of trains rolling as a relaxing time and I fall asleep happy
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 3 жыл бұрын
I opened your comment, started to read it and the train horn sounded. :-) My grandparents lived near the tracks as well. Happy memories. Thank you for watching.
@hearcamir7810
@hearcamir7810 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a pressure relief valve in the cap will help?! Awesome project!❤️
@TheAbear360
@TheAbear360 Жыл бұрын
you can get pex bard fittings that size to make it easier to transition from copper to flex pipe, use a clamp ring
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Thank you for watching.
@ivancevallos9580
@ivancevallos9580 4 жыл бұрын
instead of taking off the copper outer cover make a hole on it, it will turn as a spacer so you do not have to use the bicycle rubber.
@calvinabbott6920
@calvinabbott6920 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting amount of plumming for a shower, in summer for a outdoor show in the bush camp used 200 feet of PVC pipe coiled on a bank in the sun with a gas water pump suppling pressure, could shower all day as long as the sun was shining.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. This was probably over built. There are many ways I'd simplify this if I built it again. Thank you for watching.
@giorgiodeluca9451
@giorgiodeluca9451 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo!!
@hemprasadrai9111
@hemprasadrai9111 3 жыл бұрын
I like your idea which is very practical, it works nicely.Thank you very much for the demonstration.
@peterlockhart2588
@peterlockhart2588 3 жыл бұрын
You made a chip heater - had those when I was a kid to run a bath or have a shower without a hot water tank
@danieldecare4566
@danieldecare4566 4 жыл бұрын
being homeless this is one of the greatest things to see and being able to be (stealth camping)lol best THANK YOU
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome Daniel. Take care.
@danieldecare4566
@danieldecare4566 4 жыл бұрын
thank u
@wisdomandlove1661
@wisdomandlove1661 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenShortzDIY do you mind explaining the ✋ hand sign in the beginning of your video
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 3 жыл бұрын
@@wisdomandlove1661 I watched to see if I could determine what you are asking about. I think I was just pointing and my pinky had a mind of its own. :-) I'm guessing that's what you were curious about. Certainly not making a horns symbol.
@crazyflatlady1816
@crazyflatlady1816 3 жыл бұрын
I just love watching you
@user-tt2vw8ew9e
@user-tt2vw8ew9e 4 жыл бұрын
สุุดยอดเลยคับ
@theraylfamily4520
@theraylfamily4520 5 ай бұрын
Could use a break flaring tool on that copper to make it a bit larger.. also might make the hose stop from blowing 29:20
@jimmylaplante1700
@jimmylaplante1700 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome brother... I needed a good scare... nothing like 3rd degree burns to get someone's attention 🙃
@shna2018
@shna2018 2 жыл бұрын
Genie
@tucsonmclean5138
@tucsonmclean5138 3 жыл бұрын
This video is very insightful......had no idea to use a pvc as a tank... really am glad I found this.........stay green is a better life .... awesome video...
@somepunkinthecomments471
@somepunkinthecomments471 4 жыл бұрын
Adding this to an iron wood stove commonly used in tiny houses, would be a great idea.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think it would need to be integrated into the design a little better than I’ve done it here, but I like your idea. Thanks for watching. Love your screen name.
@somepunkinthecomments471
@somepunkinthecomments471 4 жыл бұрын
@@GreenShortzDIY Thanks :) I've also had the thought of a stove heated tub too. That way you can lay back and enjoy a bath while letting a fire roar. The fire would continually heat the bath, and you would have a valve to control how much water flow there is, if any. Also, I think a larger diameter heater coil would heat the water more evenly.
@Urarto
@Urarto 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but he must add a pressure valve at the top of the tank otherwise the tank will explode when the pressure exceeds the pressure capacity of the tank material.
@packymck
@packymck 4 жыл бұрын
I built an outdoor shower years ago. All I did was place a short 30 gal. water tank up on a pole (approx 8' tall). Paint it black and run pvc to the input (to fill tank with hose) and pvc output to shower head. I always had a nice warm shower after a days work. Keep it simple...And if you stay with RMH, paint your hot water storage tank black so you don't have to bring the temp up from cold water temp.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions Packy. I agree...simple is better. I do plan to paint the tank black before the summer rolls around. Thanks for watching.
@MsPlastina1
@MsPlastina1 4 жыл бұрын
A discarded boiler can be used as a tank cause it has insulation and put it on a taller tower for pressure by gravity .for the shower head , you can use a more traditional mix of hot with cold outlets
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I’ll have to keep my eye out for one. Thank you.
@zappatx
@zappatx 4 жыл бұрын
I'd use a heat exchanger. Have a pressure relief line at the top of you hot water tank which circulates via gravity then have a 2nd closed system for your shower.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. I understand how that would work nicely. Thanks for watching.
@bernardkinsky1637
@bernardkinsky1637 4 жыл бұрын
Just use a old radiator it has the pressure cap on the top.
@FoodForestPermaculture
@FoodForestPermaculture 4 жыл бұрын
JUst finished watching and sure was a lot of fun . FFP
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement. My only regret was that the tank was leaky. Thanks for watching.
@migueljose2944
@migueljose2944 4 жыл бұрын
very impressive! You put lots of time and thought into what you're doing and make it easy to follow. You're a good teacher. I also like the use of basic and cheap, easily sourced materials. a couple of thoughts/suggestions: I built wood heater hot water systems in the 70s. Use all copper. The one time I used cpvc it melted. I would add a pressure relief valve. I used 50' of 1/2" copper wrapped around the flue and covered with foil but those were piped into a regular hot water heater so your 20' is probably sized right. wear gloves... pvc glue is nasty stuff! thanks for the time and effort!
@celticqaidbear
@celticqaidbear 4 жыл бұрын
You might add a pressure release value. For steam buildup.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
A good thought, bear. Thanks for sharing.
@davidsherman6398
@davidsherman6398 4 жыл бұрын
i want to build my own now lol great ideas man
@robjackson3510
@robjackson3510 3 жыл бұрын
you could use 2 interwoven 8-10mm microbore coils for more surface exposure, then join them up to 15mm outside the chamber.
@SSPITTSSPACE
@SSPITTSSPACE 3 жыл бұрын
Just a thought you probably could've used the orange cap you removed and just cut the very tip so it was like a sleeve allowing you to increase the inner hose diameter
@miked2355
@miked2355 3 жыл бұрын
If your hooking up to water hose then put hose onto 1 side of copper tubbing so it heats incoming water before filling the tank.
@frankw1063
@frankw1063 3 жыл бұрын
I may have missed you adding a pressure relief valve..... But I very much hope that you did/do. Without a way for pressure to be relieved when you are not using the hot water or if the hot water swells/ expands more faster than you are using it, sir, you have effectively created a pvc bomb... Find a safe way to relieve pressure! Every hot water system on the market must have one and every boiler does for the same reason. No go boom! Much safe!
@mrfender5001
@mrfender5001 3 жыл бұрын
I have a recommendation. Use an old water heater that doesn't work anymore and use that as a hot water storage tank. Add a temperature gauge to the tank and just fill the tank with cold water and circulate the water through the coil and when the water is hot enough just unhook it and stop the thermal siphoning. Then you have a tank full of hot water for when you want it that day or night. The water heater tank is insulated and will keep the water hot for a good while. Just an idea I thought mite work out.
@ricklintz5742
@ricklintz5742 3 жыл бұрын
One more question, how much of a elevation change is possible for the outlet? Where you tubing connects at the copper would the braided house handle say a 5 or 6 foot lift or more?
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick. I haven't done enough testing with this to know for sure. But, I do think the hot water will rise, regardless of the length of the rise. On the Max version of this outdoor shower, I went with a vertical tank and fed the hot water input at the middle, cold water on the low end. The rising hot water mixes with the rest of the vertical column of water. But, my tank is super leaky. I may need to rebuild it...in metal. :-) Thanks for watching.
@mikecase9365
@mikecase9365 3 жыл бұрын
This is what makes America great!
@radagast6682
@radagast6682 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, it's lots of fun watching you make things. The ID of the pipe is different than the OD? Very funny, I had to laugh. I would not use hose at all, only pipe.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement. And yes, because of the different thicknesses of material the inner diameter and outer diameter are different. Diameters are a very serious subject. Not a laughing matter. Lol. :-) Thanks for watching.
@radagast6682
@radagast6682 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenShortzDIY Your pipe is 1/2" OD, but because copper is made in different wall thickness, (type M, L, and K) the ID will vary, so it's called 3/8" nominal.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 3 жыл бұрын
@@radagast6682 Thank you for the info. I'm still learning. Also still teachable. :-)
@radagast6682
@radagast6682 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenShortzDIY I'm teachable too, and like to learn. Thank you for what you do.. :)
@lizclements500
@lizclements500 3 жыл бұрын
Just found you. Wondering why you didn't use heater hose from auto supply?
@radagast6682
@radagast6682 4 жыл бұрын
Copper work hardens very quickly, so avoid bending the pipe more than once. Copper tubing comes in 60' and 100' coils so you could build a boiler to heat your house too.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for work hardening tip. I wasn’t aware of that. I’ve a radiant floor video in mind, but it is down on the list at the moment. Thanks for the feedback. Thanks for watching.
@ProlificInvention
@ProlificInvention 4 жыл бұрын
Watched it twice, thumbs up-excellent video.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks for the watch time. :-)
@o00oZu1o00o
@o00oZu1o00o 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get how it works. Could you do another vid, where you show the system as a whole, with a wide angle?
@patricejaquier
@patricejaquier 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome set of videos, including the building of the cobb rocket stove, thanks for the time sharing all of this. Have you calculated how fast it takes to heat, let's say 1 gal. from 60 to 120 degrees F? I'm interested because I intend to build an outdoor jacuzzi heated by a rocket stove. Greetings from Switzerland!
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Patrice. That sounds like an interesting test. I’ve got several videos in line, but I will do that soon. Thank you for watching.
@farhadzahir4207
@farhadzahir4207 3 жыл бұрын
you are amazing!!!!
@ricklintz5742
@ricklintz5742 3 жыл бұрын
Did you make big max? If so do you have a video, sorry newbie here gonna start homesteading in Arizona next year
@heikoplotner2636
@heikoplotner2636 3 жыл бұрын
Du hast es drauf ! Beste Grüße aus Deutschland !
@hairfollicle1971
@hairfollicle1971 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful project Tom!
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
For a second I was trying to wipe the hair off my phone screen. :-) Thanks for the laugh. Thanks for watching.
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 4 жыл бұрын
Nice upgrades Tom! 😃👍🏻🚿👊🏻
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fred. I appreciate your encouragement, as always. 😎👍🏻👊🏻
@hannesmans5794
@hannesmans5794 4 жыл бұрын
Good day, swop the cold water to the top and warm water at the bottom of your stove. You will get better heat exchange. Greetings from South Africa.
@robertmbogo7228
@robertmbogo7228 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I like it
@7734Kromm
@7734Kromm 4 жыл бұрын
On the end of your copper pipe, flare it out so the hose clamp doesn’t slip off. Most important is pressure protection. When you make steam in that coil, volume goes up 1000 times more than the water. You need to add a simple pressure safety valve from a hot water heater to the top of the cap. Otherwise you will get a violent rupture.
@CommonCentsRob
@CommonCentsRob 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing but further up the line so that when the shower is not in use an auxiliary tank will store the water and feed the shower. Then put the valve on that.
@oliverscorsim
@oliverscorsim 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome and I appreciate you learning from us so please pressure works in all directions.. your connection was crap the pressure wasn't the issue the lack of a barb and the inner tube gasket was your issue
@plakor6133
@plakor6133 4 жыл бұрын
Don't know how much pressure you have out of your hose, but one of those RV pressure reducers between the shore water and the tank might help keep the pressure manageable?
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Ooh. Good tip. Thanks and thanks for watching.
@CampTlangram
@CampTlangram 4 ай бұрын
Which one is more effective to and cost effective to heat water. 1.Simple putting Large water pot on the stove. 2.Making copper coil and putting in the stove which connect to the barrel through valve, pipe, pipe joints.
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 ай бұрын
Ha! Probably #1. But I had fun with my experiment. :-)
@oscarcelis
@oscarcelis 4 жыл бұрын
You can place a lid in the base of the flute in order to stop feeding the fire with the air ramming up, that way you can stop heating the coil
@brianwagner3164
@brianwagner3164 3 жыл бұрын
YOU R GREAT
@jobfairchild167
@jobfairchild167 3 жыл бұрын
Try to leave the orange cap piece on that came with the copper pipe cut the end off the orange cover sleeve and make a bushing to clamp the hose on to
@velazquezarmouries
@velazquezarmouries 3 жыл бұрын
Well if you wanted to melt aluminum with that one I would recommend you to use charcoal or just straight up coal and get a bellow system because natural draft doesn't have either the force or the volume to reach those temperatures
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. In my few attempts with this using the draft alone, it didn't close close to melting. Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. I'll be making an aircrete furnace soon to melt aluminum. Either charcoal or propane powered. Thank you for watching.
@velazquezarmouries
@velazquezarmouries 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenShortzDIY i would recommend you to use natural charcoal because it is easier and it requires a lot less hardware you can do it with pretty much a steel tube and an inflation pump like the ones used for inflating air mattresses as i did for my actual forge
@craftymulligar
@craftymulligar Жыл бұрын
The primer is suppose to clean dirty pipe and soften to help weld the glue to the pipe. You might have left a big holiday on the cap small dirty pipe on purpose I don't know.
@redneckpyromania6965
@redneckpyromania6965 Жыл бұрын
On the ends of the copper tube you could've flared it abit to make it more difficult for the tube to slide off. As well as a pressure relief valve in the top of the tank aa you would see on an air compressor. Just for safety incase the showerhead is shut off with flame in the stove.
@bre08005
@bre08005 4 жыл бұрын
Good ideas. Try an elevated hot water tank with an air vent. And an elevated cold water tank with an air vent. Maybe a toilet tank bobber valve can keep the tank levels ok. Hot water fill inlet at bottom of tank
@ulrikeklaschka6898
@ulrikeklaschka6898 4 жыл бұрын
Nice experiment. I say Hi from germany. Just found you and subscribed. Thanks for sharing the skills.
@brianwagner3164
@brianwagner3164 3 жыл бұрын
I LEARNED A LOT
@rronmar
@rronmar 3 жыл бұрын
Thermosiphon is basically powered by gravity. As the density changes with heating, cooler denser water is heavier than warmer less dense water. Because of this you want the plumbing as vertical as possible. Lines run horizontal(perpendicular to gravity) add only drag to the process. The line at the top should run upward to the tank. The line back to the heater should also be sloped down running back to the heat source. The steeper the runs, the better the flow, but it is more important on the upper line. Avoid dips and humps in the lines. Coils are easy to form, but they are more horizontal than vertical so do not Thermosiphon well. Since they don’t flow well they usually boil. What you want for Thermosiphon is a vertical tube boiler. This will flow well and keep the water cooler in the chimney tubes so they absorb more efficiently. Greater temp difference = more heat transfer. With good flow, you can heat well with less fire/fuel... You can do this with that same tube cut into several lengths and spiraled lightly inside the chimney(for turbulence) so they are far more vertical than horizontal. Collect all the ends together top and bottom and fit them all into larger copper fittings at top and bottom, and either sweat/solder or JB-weld them all together in that collector fitting. Then attach the hoses to the collector fittings. This will flow an order of magnitude better than the single coil, heat faster and should not boil until the tank is super heated. Loose the fiber re-enforced clear hose. At temps approaching boiling, it gets very soft/mushy... use auto heater hose, it is rated for those temps and readily available...
@cpsperspective6468
@cpsperspective6468 3 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole video and have some suggestions. You need a bubble flare tool for the hose to stay on. You also need a pressure regulator at your water inlet so you don't go over the rating of your hoses and stop other leaks 🤣. You should also have a temp gauge on the copper outlet to the tank. I don't think you need 20ft of tubing for the stove. 10ftt should've been fine however, I would've put a steel pipe inside the copper coil to help keep from overheating the copper and distribute the heat better.
@canucanoe2861
@canucanoe2861 3 жыл бұрын
Max temp for schedule 40 PVC is 140 F. Any hotter and it can fail. It also outgasses carcinogens at higher temps, and dioxins when combusted. Schedule 40 ABS will take temps up to 176 F
@lindaoliver5828
@lindaoliver5828 4 жыл бұрын
can you make it for indoor shower.
@matiasdoublier8874
@matiasdoublier8874 2 ай бұрын
Hi, just a question, Do you need a pressure relief valve on the system to avoid some explosion?
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 2 ай бұрын
This system can have pressure issues, but I leave the shower valve open as the water is heating, to allow for pressure relief. But, I wouldn’t make this system again this way. The rocket stove heats too fast. If I made this again, I’d put the tank pipe horizontal, paint it black and use the sun to warm the water.
@bruceconley3387
@bruceconley3387 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do this useing a like 55gallon drum water system or water tank if you didn't have a water hose from house was just in woods in off grid cabin and you had feed a water tank from a stream by bucket
@bruceconley3387
@bruceconley3387 3 жыл бұрын
Could also use a thermal wrap of some kind around your tank to keep the tank water hot much longer
@clintkay471
@clintkay471 3 жыл бұрын
loose the cap on top & use a blue barrel for your water like your off grid, put about ten gallons of water in your barrel to start. try again. Clint Kay Orange, Texas
@richardsolomon8076
@richardsolomon8076 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job Tom, happy Thanksgiving to you and your family :)
@GreenShortzDIY
@GreenShortzDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Richard. Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving as well. Thanks for watching.
@jacklassley8002
@jacklassley8002 3 жыл бұрын
How about using pex for the fresh water inlet ? I don’t put a lot of faith in Shark Bites under that kind of pressure. And a good pressure check valve, for the guys down at OSHA 🤣🤣
@kfujillama9548
@kfujillama9548 3 жыл бұрын
IVe used teflon tape to mod a solid pipe as a stop gap measure. Multiple, multiple wraps...
@anaperalta3553
@anaperalta3553 2 жыл бұрын
h!!!! great video, do you have any video of how you made max (30 sec)? Thanks
@michaelanderson9792
@michaelanderson9792 3 жыл бұрын
Paint tank black and add black vinyl tubing around the tank for more solar heating
@radagast6682
@radagast6682 3 жыл бұрын
PVC pipe is not normally used for hot water. CPVC is used for hot water, but only up to 200° F. Your rocket heater could get much hotter. Keep trying, I know you will succeed. :) Your rocket stove is essentially a Side Arm Heater, used extensively 100 years ago and burned coal. An insulated tank was installed alongside the heater. As the Side Arm Heater (boiler) heated the water it would rise through convection, and get piped into the top of the storage tank. The cooler water would get piped out of the bottom of the storage tank, and enter the bottom of the Side Arm Heater. My Brother uses one to heat his house, that our Grandpa installed in 1929.
@oldgoldgetter
@oldgoldgetter 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff and enjoyed the video. Keep on going.
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