Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S2:E10

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Greg Salazar

Greg Salazar

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@GregSalazar
@GregSalazar 2 жыл бұрын
Just read through the comments and a common theme/request is a BIOS update. I will be revisiting this board in a future video. Didn't think to check BIOS update, but will remember this for the future 👍 This feedback is much appreciated!
@CodyCalo
@CodyCalo 2 жыл бұрын
I actually own that motherboard myself, so knowing some tips and tricks about it, and just motherboards in general would be very handy 👍
@Tellinq
@Tellinq 2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that it had to be this motherboard specifically. I remember trying to mitigate this issue myself and then seeing people on reddit complaining about the same issue, most of them having this exact motherboard. I might test version 4005 and see if I can reproduce the same issue again. I'm still surprised that it would have been still present in a version nearly 2 years after the bug occurred. Then again, ASUS never really posted a changelog similar to this phrase "Fix inconsistent DRAM POST failure".
@owboky102050
@owboky102050 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you put 4 sticks of ram at one time to test ?
@BriceClary
@BriceClary 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Greg. I’m a professional IT systems analyst for the local government I live in. I also build computers on the side for supplemental income. Idk why but I have come across this Tuf series X570 board almost a dozen times and 7 of these boards were either defective, had a bad memory slot, corrupted BIOS out of the box or a CPU problem. I’m not sure why but these X570 Tuf boards are just horrible and not quite sure why. It’s the only series of boards that I have had a problem with. Just food for thought.
@Dracarrion
@Dracarrion 2 жыл бұрын
@@owboky102050 You test with one stick to find out which slot/channel is causing it to fail. also 4 stick could cause a false fail with xmp/docp causing memory errors.
@SaintDorado
@SaintDorado 2 жыл бұрын
Greg after 4 minutes of video: "I think I know what it is." The Video:*Is 30 minutes long* well...
@GregSalazar
@GregSalazar 2 жыл бұрын
Bahahah. Yeah. I'm always so confident going into these. Very humbling 😅
@luzoid9462
@luzoid9462 2 жыл бұрын
He said "Good luck sluttering if you bent the pin" Lol
@kainmexi8365
@kainmexi8365 2 жыл бұрын
Greg: "explains why he went in depth" Dorado: "I STILL DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S 30 MINUTES LONG" Me: Well...
@Everdreamjustplays
@Everdreamjustplays 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregSalazar One thing I always do is slightly pull out on the board if one of the memory slots don't work. I've had it so that the back of the board contacts the case and causes this issue on more than a few PC's I've fixed. Usually because the person who built it left a standoff out or used wrong screws.
@SaintDorado
@SaintDorado 2 жыл бұрын
@@kainmexi8365 It was a joke. I wasn't criticizing the video length.
@notmerkyy
@notmerkyy 2 жыл бұрын
Always love it when the PC can’t decide if it’s broken or not Great vid Greg!
@wallychambe1587
@wallychambe1587 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Skyline_NTR
@Skyline_NTR 2 жыл бұрын
broken't
@n0xxm3rcyxx
@n0xxm3rcyxx 2 жыл бұрын
yeah mine does this when i had my 5700xt in... would restart itself randomly 3x a day or 3x a week... so i gave up on it... back to the rx 580.
@andreasu.3546
@andreasu.3546 Жыл бұрын
As long as the box is closed, it's broken and functional at the same time.
@lawenpatty
@lawenpatty Жыл бұрын
rgdrdgrgdrdg
@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep
@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep 2 жыл бұрын
Need to check the spark plugs on the CPU, maybe low on RAM fluid.
@MagicDarkLightMDL
@MagicDarkLightMDL 2 жыл бұрын
The timing might be 180 out on the SSD
@akp9083
@akp9083 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take your advice with a pinch of salt.
@keanumartin659
@keanumartin659 2 жыл бұрын
Had to bleed my rgb fluid last week to get the air out of the system
@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep
@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep 2 жыл бұрын
@@keanumartin659 That's a good mention. People forget that once in a while. Its handy if you have a friend, one to hold the bleeder screw, and another friend to press on the CPU pedal.
@lunathecutest6652
@lunathecutest6652 2 жыл бұрын
forgot about refueling the psu
@gtidili
@gtidili 2 жыл бұрын
I am a system builder for 25 years and love how you troubleshoot every faulty pc. Love from Holland ^^
@grumpytitan3926
@grumpytitan3926 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@d0ppelgengar23
@d0ppelgengar23 Жыл бұрын
do you still remember the first pc u built?
@Mandren
@Mandren Жыл бұрын
Nothing fills me with more of a sense of dread than when my PC stops behaving. Doesn't happen often, but it's a day ruiner. I really enjoy this series, getting to see the troubleshooting process first hand... while simultaneously telling my PC that it better not dare try these shenanigans.
@martindelgallego5809
@martindelgallego5809 7 ай бұрын
LOL
@MarshallRawR
@MarshallRawR 2 жыл бұрын
I literally had a DRAM no post for opening my PC and taking out the GPU to clean it up. Reseating one stick worked. Goes to show you PC problems can just happen for the sake of it.
@Currmygold69
@Currmygold69 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@VL125
@VL125 2 жыл бұрын
Dead MSI b550 mortar for me, haven't touched it in weeks, it worked fine and suddenly the board is dead.
@UnknownThigh
@UnknownThigh 2 жыл бұрын
i hope it doesnt happen to me when i do my first big cleaning in the future 😆
@itsTyrion
@itsTyrion 2 жыл бұрын
same. Had that on an ASUS H61 and MSI B450 board
@ionitaconstantin1052
@ionitaconstantin1052 2 жыл бұрын
Wierd that most pc's whit problems, dead mobo/cpu/ram happen on amd
@GrayWolf34a
@GrayWolf34a 2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that you go through each process methodically to determine the root cause of the problem. I have been watching your fix or flop videos on a regular basis, and hope that I will learn something from each one of them. Keep up the great work!
@Dont-Evan-Bother
@Dont-Evan-Bother 2 жыл бұрын
I am finding your series on "fix or flop" to be very eruditus. I have learned a great deal throughout your process of diagnosis with each system. I thank you greatly for the time and effort you have put into making these series.
@duncanwilliams2350
@duncanwilliams2350 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it could be fixed by a bios update, but that's kinda what I always lean on for intermittent issues. Either way, it was a fun video.
@devinlehman8798
@devinlehman8798 2 жыл бұрын
dealt with this same issue a few times. Bios updates never fixed it, it was always a dead memory channel on the board
@Tradewinderider
@Tradewinderider 4 ай бұрын
@@devinlehman8798 Checking immediately after a post if a bios update fixed the problem is a no harm. I work in this exact territory for 26 years. Some times is what you said. Some other times a bios update fixed it.
@NathonDalton
@NathonDalton 2 жыл бұрын
This can happen when internal traces have issues. The board flex when messing with it can cause traces to ever so slightly connect or disconnect. Makes it very difficult to track down the real issue.
@Nebbia_affaraccimiei
@Nebbia_affaraccimiei 2 жыл бұрын
bingo. every insertion/pulling was bending the board and sometimes end up in the lucky position. if you don't ever move your pc again it's probably fine forever
@DonMachado
@DonMachado 2 жыл бұрын
I would really love to see you get a test bench so you can eliminate misdiagnoses by testing individual components separate from the platform you're trying to debug.
@elgigante2001
@elgigante2001 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I feel like a dedicated test bench will help alot in diagnosing individual components.
@onememory6484
@onememory6484 2 жыл бұрын
He has a bunch
@videogamefreak221122
@videogamefreak221122 2 жыл бұрын
@@onememory6484 Yup, don’t understand why he doesn’t use one. Could have a couple intel and one amd one easily
@paolopandas2103
@paolopandas2103 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone have a test bench. Would be good to do troubleshooting like a normal user - without access to test bench or spare parts.
@videogamefreak221122
@videogamefreak221122 2 жыл бұрын
@@paolopandas2103 bruh he literally swaps parts out all the time and uses his extensive hardware collection to troubleshoot, this has never been “teaching how to do it like a normal person”. Because, sadly, for a lot of things you just need another system to test stuff in.
@tonybeckett66
@tonybeckett66 2 жыл бұрын
I really love this series, the variety of issues and steps you go through to diagnose the problem
@nardo2762
@nardo2762 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever Im about to work on a computer, I always watch a couple of your videos for a troubleshooting refresher.
@sacrashin
@sacrashin 2 жыл бұрын
I've binged the whole playlist during the last few days and I love it! I'm building my own pc's for quite a few years now and have still a lot to learn. These videos are perfect to learn how to troubleshoot and fix your own pc (and even small details like proper cable management). Basically free education which helps you to save a lot of money AND it's entertaining! I'm really looking forward for more of FoF!
@RifatErdemSahin
@RifatErdemSahin Жыл бұрын
I have a dead channel memory issue i wished i watched earlier
@snes09
@snes09 2 жыл бұрын
You're honestly so nice swapping out that mobo. Even if it was just a bios issue, it's safer this way since it was so inconsistent in posting. Very informative video. I always like seeing your process in diagnosing the issue.
@ospe1991
@ospe1991 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for that magical episode when clearing the CMOS will actually work :')
@Chilledoutredhead
@Chilledoutredhead 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it happened early in s01 of this playlist.
@vainaviai9013
@vainaviai9013 2 жыл бұрын
I would have done a bios update for this board. I had some DRAM issue(wont post with some sticks, crashing, usb error) in a pc i built for work. Recently, new bios revision have details regarding stability fixes. Used that, and my issues went away.
@grzegorzreszel
@grzegorzreszel 2 жыл бұрын
Had same idea. Think it was a simple motherboard RAM compatibility. Bios update could fix it.
@ericcardinal4788
@ericcardinal4788 2 жыл бұрын
I could feel your frustration with this system. I was leaning towards memory incompatibility with the processor. However, it turned out to be something I wasn't expecting
@ImEverlove
@ImEverlove 2 жыл бұрын
This series is a great archive for future PC builders to look back on to figure out their issues more easily and see it in real time being diagnosed.
@stretchable4647
@stretchable4647 2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen that either. If I had to make a guess though I'd say the bent pin possibly caused a intermittent issue with either the memory controller IC or one of the caps surrounding it.
@lloydc5736
@lloydc5736 2 жыл бұрын
I'm well reminded of various times trouble-shooting PC's with issues, nice you offer these Fix or flop videos, to aid in giving viewers methods to try and use to deal with trouble-shooting and fixing their own PC's when needed, as have gained increased knowledge, Well Done!, and thank you.
@deadspace2lover
@deadspace2lover 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you greg thanks to your vids I managed to troubleshoot my pc yesterday after moving and i was troubleshooting for two days and just as i was about to give up thinking it was a dead cpu I remembered something from your vids did it and got the pc to post you made my week thank you greg ❤️!!
@SaiyanSatsuki
@SaiyanSatsuki 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful indeed, as attempting to google/troubleshoot yourself only leads to a never-ending rabbit hole in most cases. A lot of I have the same issue please help but not much in the way of informed info or understanding of what's going on. And in most cases it's a lot of forum post with issues that might relate, but no be the exact same as what your experiencing, and most wind up telling you to do all the simple steps you've already tried. often it can be rather frustrating so thank you for this series Greg!
@johno9163
@johno9163 2 жыл бұрын
No explanation was needed regarding the non-use of the upgrades. The user has a free MB and free labour by a superior professional computer tech. The cost at a PC shop would have been in the hundreds of dollars. And by being persistent in your diagnosis, you and he/she have the peace of mind knowing the system will run trouble free. Another great video!
@g73737
@g73737 2 жыл бұрын
Greg no need to caveat your videos. You're not making mistakes. There is no mistake in applying a logical process of elimination to narrow down the issue. Your videos are highly informative and helped me a ton already. It's difficult when faced with an issue of your own and easier with hindsight / shoulder surfing. Keep up the great work, we really appreciate you!!:-)
@rando_bacon
@rando_bacon 2 жыл бұрын
There definitely needs to be an industry standard for the Dr Debug with the code LED’s on all motherboards. I won’t buy one without one now bc they are so helpful for troubleshooting.
@LordFalon
@LordFalon 2 жыл бұрын
I was going through withdrawls from fix or flop and the cleaning vids... so happy you have come back to me Fix or Flop series.... Thanks greg!
@nearlypike2574
@nearlypike2574 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Can clearly notice that you put a lot in making them. Thanks for the content and keep it up :)
@bunnylove273
@bunnylove273 2 жыл бұрын
hey bud if you think about the upgrades err yes you did you upgraded from a non working properly MB to a working MB and gave a good look over it to make all is good
@rodrigominari7469
@rodrigominari7469 2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar problem with one pc. when I removed one of the rams I found a single drop of water. it ruined the B slot. whenever it had a ram inserted it wouldn't boot. love this series, greetings from Argentina.
@li0nhart4477
@li0nhart4477 2 жыл бұрын
I would think the person who got their PC back in working order would be happy regardless of upgrades. It's great that you look at these for free and sort out the issues. As you say just diagnosing a PC costs money. So don't think anybody should be complaining that you didn't give the upgraded stuff, especially if it's not needed. It's a win win all round, person gets their PC back working, you get the content for your channel and we learn something!!. All good dude!!
@PCFixer
@PCFixer 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter that it's X570; update the BIOS anyway. I do this on all my systems.
@captainwrench66
@captainwrench66 2 жыл бұрын
This playlist is great. I was able to find an issue with my buddys pc thanks to watching so many of these videos. RAM not fully seated causing no picture. Thanks Greg!
@thomasainsworth2997
@thomasainsworth2997 2 жыл бұрын
This exact thing happened to me a few months ago, I had a Ryzen 5 3600 and the exact same DDR4 and it would just randomly not boot. I would change the Ram orientation and it would work. In the end I got a little sick of having to do this every other time I used my PC and sent the Board back to the manufacturer and they confirmed it was the board at fault.
@SakiJura
@SakiJura 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, though had no warranty on the board as I bought it 2nd hand (no receipt). Seems like the 3rd generation Ryzen CPU's are a pain in the ass in terms of compatibility consistency with certain motherboards.
@frozen4blade313
@frozen4blade313 2 жыл бұрын
No it's just ryzen. I had the same issue with my b450 Asus strix gaming f with a 2600x, worked for 1 year fine then started having dram problems, thought it was my ram so a hammer tested, all fine. Then all of a sudden after the tests pc worked again for 2 weeks. Then again dram failure boot loop. Got a new board on warranty, no issues but I have 32gb if Corsair vengeance 3200 cl16 (4x8gb) and can only run at 2933mhz. I think sometimes the power delivery to the ram on ryzen boards are questionable.
@wallychambe1587
@wallychambe1587 2 жыл бұрын
@@SakiJura I built with a 3700X on a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max in 2020 with "MSI compatible GSkill memory and have not had 1 issue in two years! My opinion is that people are not using QVL memory recommendations from the board makers! Even for my board MSI has a different QVL list for AMD 1000 through 5000!
@nikpap95
@nikpap95 2 жыл бұрын
No idea why I hadn't checked this series sooner... it's addictive! Bravo Greg!
@coolpoete
@coolpoete 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always!! I had predicted it was the mobo, funny I had considered this same one for my R7 5800x build but went with a B550 instead. Love these series of videos as usual!
@ajfgaming7387
@ajfgaming7387 2 жыл бұрын
These videos helped me diagnose a problem I was having with one of my computers that I built. If it wasn't for me stumbling onto these videos, I don't think I would have solved the issue. Thanks so much and great work Greg!
@zacharyberridge7239
@zacharyberridge7239 2 жыл бұрын
I ran into something similar about a month ago. Took my AIO out to clean it (lord, it was dusty!), and the CPU was damned near glued to the copper plate, and popped out with the cooler. System powered right up, but after a few days, noticed I was only seeing half the ram. Took it all apart again, same problem. Different ram, same problem. Eventually noticed a very, very mildly bent pin. Adjusted all the rows using a razor blade, and put it all back. Now I've got 32 gigs again. Weird shit.
@BlastPKMN
@BlastPKMN 2 жыл бұрын
Quick tip Ive learned whenever removing a CPU cooler (mostly on PGA or AM4 sockets) is to run a CPU stress test before removing it. It will heat up the thermal paste and make it easier to remove the CPU cooler from the CPU itself
@zacharyberridge7239
@zacharyberridge7239 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlastPKMN that's clever! I like it!
@itsTyrion
@itsTyrion 2 жыл бұрын
I like these. I don't watch every one, sometimes I don't have the time, and not always without skipping (because I have ADHD and am impatient :D), but I really appreciate that you do these vids, swapping parts, explaining troubleshooting 101, explain what you're doing and why.
@sayeretmatkaal
@sayeretmatkaal 2 жыл бұрын
One of the PCB tracks from RAM to CPU must have cracked during installation and is making intermittent contact.
@sgtdroid
@sgtdroid 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing all the nitty and gritty work in troubleshooting pc problems!
@GameOverAus
@GameOverAus 2 жыл бұрын
YOu are doing a great thing, shouldn't be "Required" to upgrade anything just because., clients should be happy they are getting there system working and looking nice for next to nothing Also to note you are putting troubleshooting into simple terms so keep it up :) I religiously watch all your and jayz2cents videos at this point
@barados2006
@barados2006 2 жыл бұрын
Also try watching Carey Holzman
@pandrews01
@pandrews01 2 жыл бұрын
And that's why I continue to watch and respect this channel. Awesome Job Mr. Salazar.
@Jurrian9189
@Jurrian9189 2 жыл бұрын
Please Update the BIOS to the latest version and re-test the Ram. It's quite common for Ram sticks not to work properly with old BIOS version. Has happened to me numerous times, when my Ram wouldn't work in dual channel or would only work at 2666mhz instead of 3800mhz and BIOS update fixed it all. Any Ram incompatibility issue is most likely from BIOS being out of date.
@Spido68_the_spectator
@Spido68_the_spectator 2 жыл бұрын
Just when weird stuff in the computer ' s history (viruses, ect...) causes some thing to do wacky things (like CPU capping at some usage and certain frequency) can be fixed with a BIOS update, despite no acces to any setting of that nature. Funny thing,, huh?
@JonathanBradysouth-africa
@JonathanBradysouth-africa Жыл бұрын
I've literally binge watched like 4 episodes so far and loving it. Especially since I own two of my own rigs (one for work and one for home) as a video editor. I've learnt how to assemble my own builds and load windows and its become somewhat addictive.
@Tellinq
@Tellinq 2 жыл бұрын
I have this exact motherboard and encountered this issue multiple times, however not as common as you did. It seemed to be some BIOS issue from what I could tell as I was on version 1404 and went up to 4021 and have yet to encounter this since. Not sure why it's happening on 4005 though in your case.
@erogaki
@erogaki 2 жыл бұрын
I actually had an issue on my MSI b550 gaming plus board, would flick between dram and cpu constantly. The issue was the socket itself being damaged due to a faulty retention arm. What originally happened was that on my first cpu uninstall (same beast of a chip being the 3600) the arm wouldn't budge past around 90% up, not allowing the cpu to come out. I applied a little bit of force, and the latch jumped and snapped the lower plastic of the socket, allowing the arm to extend further than 90 degrees which was all sorts of wrong. checked the cpu for damage, repasted and reinstalled the cooler. That's when the issues first propped up, the fix being to tighten the stock am4 cooler to an almost uncomfortable amount. Went through another air cooler which worked, albeit needing to over tighten it. Then came my recent aio install, that's where the board no longer posted unfortunately. the latch barely moved the cpu socket as it should, and it was flicking between dram/cpu like crazy.
@thatscottishguy5105
@thatscottishguy5105 2 жыл бұрын
Top quality content as usual 👍😎
@GregSalazar
@GregSalazar 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@cortneywebb1677
@cortneywebb1677 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched these in order just random ones here and there for fun. Debated on subscribing for a while. You have earned the new subscriber. Thank you for the entertainment.
@JD-ux6fk
@JD-ux6fk 2 жыл бұрын
The MoBo Memory Circuitry has severed continuity that closes after warmed.... it won't cold start but later will warm start.... we could test for that by trying to start it from cold with a hair blow dryer pre-heating. Good job.
@Lagghard
@Lagghard 2 жыл бұрын
Probably nothing, but around 26:30 I noticed one of the socket holes appears to have a possible obstruction. Fourth row from the bottom about midway. That's actually near where the bent pin on the cpu was I believe.
@ipianoman18
@ipianoman18 2 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy watching these, I recently had to use your trouble shooting techniques to diagnose and fix my own pc, I installed nvme m.2s on my b450 aorus wifi pro and was attempting to get raid to work, sadly raid wasn't a good idea it slowed down the performance on my pc so we reverted back to individual drive and that's were the issues started, my system kept freezing on boot so I unplugged everything I didn't need, that didn't work then I jumped my pins and got it to fix, wasn't too big of an issue but if I hadn't watched your shows I don't think I would have gotten it fixed, thank you Greg keep up your good work
@Roland_finds
@Roland_finds 2 жыл бұрын
Had the same issue with a used z370 board. Seller claimed it works fine after I returned it. Bought a brand new board and boom all my problems gone. Good video!👍🏻
@AlexandeRSciswoR
@AlexandeRSciswoR 2 жыл бұрын
Did you got the refund for it?
@ΦώτιοςΖεέρης
@ΦώτιοςΖεέρης 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg for the video! I'm a new computer technician and your videos are such so helpful and a huge inspiration too! Especially you explaing in details the troubleshooting process even by speaking loud your mind is super helpful too!
@shobhitsharma1121
@shobhitsharma1121 2 жыл бұрын
I fixed my own PC for the first time it had ram problem thanks greg couldn't do it without you
@puddleduckist
@puddleduckist 2 жыл бұрын
Great job figuring it out, I'm sure the owner will be very grateful!
@Ryansyks
@Ryansyks 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen this happen on many boards, generally the fix fir me has always been to take out the 12pin power connecter, spam the power button to cycle anything elec out, re insert the 12pin and then it works. No clue why but that has fixed this exact same issue multiple times.
@TheNyghtShyftGamer
@TheNyghtShyftGamer 4 ай бұрын
Just did a new build with a tuf board. As soon as I seen the symptoms of Dram light and no post. I knew immediately that the ram was in the wrong slot did this with my build I had to read the manual to the board and on mine instead of A1 and A2 it wanted the ram in B1 and B2. Swapped it out power cycled and boom post and everything has worked well since. May want to look at the manual for this board and see if its the same. I know this video is 2 years old bust still could help in the future for similar issues.
@socialmedia5805
@socialmedia5805 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who runs a 5 3600 I gotta say I'm extremely happy that it wasn't another dead cpu. Also those stock coolers need to be taken out back and put down like old yeller.
@horrorman0098
@horrorman0098 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite playlist. Keep 'em coming.
@dritq4087
@dritq4087 2 жыл бұрын
I have had the same issue when i built my pc, turns out one of the ram sticks corsair sent was broken, and it would light up and spin up, no picture, once i took out the broken ram it worked, crazy that many things can cause the same issue. I still find it fun to go through the process and check everything, despite expensive components being on the line. Great video, glad i could learn something!
@musicalwolf5481
@musicalwolf5481 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of an issue I have sometimes. I have a msi b550 motherboard. I believe tomahawk. And a kit of rgb vengeance pro. And a kit or non rgb. As well as an r5 3600. If I remove the ram or when I installed a new psu my system wouldn’t boot. Just the dram light on my mobo would turn on. I’d play musical chairs for about 30 mins and then it boots every time without issue.
@musicalwolf5481
@musicalwolf5481 2 жыл бұрын
When watching further in. This is what happened. It didn’t matter witch ones where in or where they where. But once I got All of them in and boot. It then boots every time.
@jimmyfaulkner4956
@jimmyfaulkner4956 Жыл бұрын
Could be a cold/bad solder joint or a slight break in one of the traces. I have seen this type of inconsistent problems in mobile radios. Would work for a short time when the board was pressed on or messed with, then quit working again. Can make you feel like you are chasing your tail.
@AeiKei
@AeiKei 2 жыл бұрын
Cleaning the slots from time to time is good practice. Happened to one of my customers aswell. Cleaning the slots and the ram pins fixed it
@digerati808
@digerati808 Жыл бұрын
I've had the physical RAM slot go bad once. Had the same symptoms in this video and was able to duplicate the problem when nudging the slot around. Wasn't going to try re-soldering the slot to the board, so I used a different one instead. I've always been careful when seating RAM onto a mobo but then became paranoid about it after that experience.
@rtyler1869
@rtyler1869 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue when I tried to install a vertical riser cable. It would work / not work intermittently. Gave up with the one that I was using and replaced. Worked a treat thereafter.
@justsumguy2u
@justsumguy2u 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting indeed. One suggestion; whenever dealing with multiple power on/power off cycles during troubleshooting, I'd disconnect whatever drive has the o/s on it----repeated cycles can corrupt it
@Animo92
@Animo92 2 жыл бұрын
Had 2 boards arrive DOA back to back one had cpu debug light and the second had dram fault, you can get hairline cracks in solder joints and internally damaged components from sheer dumb luck and vibrations that prevent an otherwise perfect looking board from working luckily for me 3rd times the charm and now it's all running smoothly
@TMFW
@TMFW 2 жыл бұрын
Granted it’s an older video, I’d be curious to see if there was solder point issues with the connector or solder grounding out issues. It might make some sense with the pushing down of ram might make the board flex which could make the solder points touch/not touch.
@jayb2705
@jayb2705 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Greg! I love the methodical checking of everything, it's a great example for anyone looking to troubleshoot issues. One thing I would have done is test that the new motherboard is working with the CPU and RAM before mounting it to the case.
@Mr330
@Mr330 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same issues as well, DRAM no post! My issue was the standoffs not being on correctly and the board hitting the case, it was my first PC that I built. I also had an issue recently where I got scared and my new PC had the same issue, I just had to push in my GPU a bit to fix it. Just thought I'd share, thanks for the video. ❤️
@guilbaua
@guilbaua 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg, don't forget to watch the first Miami F1 Grand-Prix this week-end !!
@DJKr15py
@DJKr15py 2 жыл бұрын
Could've been a cold solder on a single pin in one of the Dimm slots and once it got a little warm it expanded and made consistent contact
@johngangemi1361
@johngangemi1361 9 ай бұрын
That is what I thought too.
@NoorSkullz
@NoorSkullz Жыл бұрын
19:38 I've had this issue so many times to the point where I think one or two of my dim slots are dead but then what doesn't make sense is the fact I have ran my system with only 3 sticks and not 4 and ran 2 not in the correct slots for the motherboard. Maybe my mobo just doesn't like 4 x 8 kits for some reason? but worked for months and then didn't, RAM is strange.
@kentd2869
@kentd2869 2 жыл бұрын
on 11:27 if I'm reading the pin location correct, that bent pin is MB_DATA[9] Pin, which on AM4 is a pin directly related to channel B, I believe that's why you have issue with memory on channel B on the mobo, CPU couldn't read anything from that pin, causing channel B to fail.
@kentd2869
@kentd2869 2 жыл бұрын
Correction MB_DATA[7] not [9]
@airman_85uk
@airman_85uk 2 жыл бұрын
I've had similar issues with my old Z97 board when I was populating 4 DIMMs. 2 was fine (cycling through all of the DIMMS). The only way it worked was going to BIOS with 2 DIMMs, set XMP and add a bit of voltage to the DIMMs and then boot with all 4.
@deviousnate7238
@deviousnate7238 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing that you consider doing upgrades AT ALL. It is also amazing how quickly people can take a good deal for granted.
@thegamerdad2870
@thegamerdad2870 2 жыл бұрын
So I had a similar issue with my system not posting when populating certain DIMM slots when I got my new motherboard and CPU. I followed a lot of your methods of trouble shooting and came to the conclusion that I had too much mounting pressure with my AIO cooler - which also slightly bent the pins on my 5800x. Thankfully my system was able to post after cleaning and reseating my CPU with just enough pressure. My system didn't like A2 and B2 slots occupied at the same time, but would post with single channel config in any slot, during the troubleshooting process.
@sitordan
@sitordan 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you'll be at the track on Sunday. It shaping up to be a great race.
@teamgaming1294
@teamgaming1294 2 жыл бұрын
Doubt it is the cause but it looks like there is something stuck in one of the socket holes if you pause at 26:41 ....20 across from the bottom row and 4 up ?
@CalebWarta
@CalebWarta 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly an issue with the clock on the infinity fabric having issues with the clocks in dual channel.
@simonbouchard2601
@simonbouchard2601 2 жыл бұрын
I've looked at the AM4 pin layout and that bent pin was for DDR channel B (MB_DATA 7), but would be weird if channel A had issues since most of the direct pins around are ground. Unless that socket had a physical issue that caused that pin to bent and/or other pins inside didn't make good enough contact in that area?
@michael8124
@michael8124 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing I can think of is, possibly the board had a defect where a contact for the CPU pin was too high. So when the CPU cooler was tightened down, it caused the CPU pin to push so hard against the contact it bent and the contact on the board ended up damaged.
@SiliconPower74
@SiliconPower74 2 жыл бұрын
After fixing the main problem and being able to boot. You should do some test to check stability and temps. I have a small sata SSD drive dedicated to test systems. A W10 loaded with tools like OCCT, furmark, cinebench, heaven, memtest, CPUZ, GPUZ, PRIME, HWinfo64, HWmonitor, aida64, crystaldiskinfo and other sw. Enough so you can so you can be sure the system tested will be ok. Usually, to check a system, I go for a 30min OCCT run in PSU mode. Cinebench to check cpu performance, crystaldisk info, gpu benchmark if necessary and finally I leave the system running mentest bootable (this last test takes several hours) Also after installing a new motherboard or pcie card you should install the specific driver for it so everything works. You can check in device manager if any driver is missing (audio, lan, WiFi, Bluetooth, usb...) Good video
@D0RYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
@D0RYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 2 жыл бұрын
i have this same motherboard. had a similar issue after installing a new nvme ssd after the previous one failed. i installed the drive and windows easily but then the pc wouldnt boot and i got that amber debug light. ram wouldnt work in dual channel a2/b2 slots but would post if i only used one ram stick. both sticks were working in other slots so i cleared the cmos and booted the pc with just one ram stick. i did this with both sticks. it did the same debug cycle you see here, 9:37, both times. I then slotted them back into a2/b2 and it worked. idk if i may have knocked a memory module loose and didnt notice but i still feel like i dont know what the actual issue was. everything has been smooth sailing since. was very frustrating.
@masterz734
@masterz734 2 жыл бұрын
literally 3/4 of the pcs that are brought to me for repair that dont just need a new windows install, end up having crazy ass issues like this. glad to see it isnt just me who is burdened with the ridiculousness some of these configs bring.
@noketchup2764
@noketchup2764 2 жыл бұрын
I had exactly the same problem but with my B450 AORUS elite. I send it in service for repair and they run it ok,without any problem. They send it my MOBO back to me and now it s works out of nowhere. I test it before with another components but had the same error again and again. Still don't know what was the problem but at least it runs now:)
@MikeBCNU
@MikeBCNU 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed right away the the slide shaft actuator on the dram module wasnt meshing precisely with the outboard vascillator module
@MrMcGreed
@MrMcGreed 2 жыл бұрын
I love this series! I think it's so cool what Greg is doing - the used systems I've flipped over time, I do the same, though I can afford giving away items, but the service is free for as long as you keep the system... Though, I can't do it for everyone (live in a city with 1,3 million inhabitants)... One thing though, that case frontpanel is triggering AF... it's just, ARGH, I just wanna get the drill out everytime it's in the shot!
@KRAVER_
@KRAVER_ 2 жыл бұрын
Nice !! sewing needle is an old trick i use a lot. another good one for straightening pins is a exacto knife
@riphaven
@riphaven 2 жыл бұрын
if this was my Ford F250 i would have said it was the muffler bearing thrown the thing up on craigslist. I cant wait to see the vid on this MOBO in the future Greg.
@BWGPEI
@BWGPEI 2 жыл бұрын
If you get things right the first time, every time, you are a God. As you are not that exalted, you do the best you can, and that's better than most. I have fun watching you.
@isturma
@isturma 2 жыл бұрын
I have this same problem with an Asus B450 board running a 2600x. There's just something about certain RAM sticks and configs that it just doesn't like.
@SidDTheSimschannel
@SidDTheSimschannel Жыл бұрын
The two compacitors or resistors where being shortened by the graphics card, the two compacitors by the memory provide power to the ram slots, some times the graphics cards have metal along their shrouds that could possible make them touch this can cause the memory channels to freak out and look shorted. That is why with newer motherboards the compacitors have been moved up a little bit.
@en3rgy1931
@en3rgy1931 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I met with both laptops and PC's, is that some slots are letting the ram sticks to go too deep in the actual slot, making them to not make proper contact with the pins, and solution for two of my cases was to force the ram to stick out, by not having the clips locking the ram in or to put some plastic/paper material in the ram slot to decrease that depth. Crazy, but it worked for me. Had the same behaviour as here, motherboard is fine, the slots are not 'fine' they just need some adjustments. Try to the fill the slots with something, and try the same thing. (I recommend ethernet cable covers, from the small 8 wires, without the copper of course)
@beaniedoesgames7119
@beaniedoesgames7119 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and also a great lesson for anyone that altought experience can guide you, Similar syptoms can have different root causes Keep up the stellar work!
@velinion1
@velinion1 2 жыл бұрын
Weird things I have seen that might be relevant: 1. RAM that had weird issues until I cleaned the contacts with a soft pencil eraser. The contacts looked perfectly clean to start with. You did swap the ram, but some electrical contact cleaner in the slot couldn't hurt. 2. Weird RAM issues resolved by BIOS update. 3. Weird POST issues with non-relevant error lights (RAM) caused by a particular GPU with a particular monitor. A different GPU or a different monitor resolved the issue completely. In retrospect, I believe that issue would have been resolved by a firmware update to the graphics card (saw a similar issue later with a GPU that a GPU firmware update fixed).
@bearrbig
@bearrbig 2 жыл бұрын
I think I binged all the seasons in a day or two love the videos keep em coming !
@TechmarineChris
@TechmarineChris 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god this troubleshooting is giving me war flashbacks. I have the exact same motherboard and I believe the problem is with the slots themselves. Even when the RAM clips in, it might not yet be fully seated. It is painfully inconsistent and gave me all kinds of hell. I still get all sorts of interesting problems now, after running my current PC for years.
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