My Take on the Phanteks Evolv X

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[@GregSalazar]

I know I ignored the pricing aspect of this review. It wasn't deliberate, but it speaks to my underlying thoughts: the price of this case is "meh." I don't think it's outrageously expensive considering what you're getting, but it isn't a "bargain" by any definition of the word. Obviously, you wouldn't wanna use this case in a build with a strict budget. What do you think?

[@Gradymeister]

The RGB on the front of the case looks so meh to me. Everything else looks fine, but for 200 dollars? Maybe 150..

[@GrumpyFelo]

200 is meh price? Talk about ego

[@NamelessONEMail]

GrumpyFelo When you use this case as it was intended to be used (500-1000$ custom watercooling loops and obviously fairly expensive hardware like 1080Ti ... etc) then 200$ for a case with this kind of exterior build quality and the almost perfectly designed interior is actually very cheap. If you're planning on getting a 1060 and a budget build overall then don't buy this case. It was not meant for you. Get your head out of your ass. I was actually amazed this was just 200$ ... I was expecting 250-300$ when I saw this case presented for the first time. You wouldn't complain about a ferrari or lamborghini being too expensive, would you now ? And this is nowhere near that same price difference between a normal affordable car and a ferrari ...

[@GregSalazar]

@@GrumpyFelo Ego? Are you serious? 😂 Please leave.

[@christopherwong5946]

@science studio any opinions on best air cooled case? I was thinking Fractal meshify C or Lan Li 011 air?

[@kyleingram6330]

Awesome video man. I've been very concerned about GPU temperatures with this case based on a few other reviews on it. Your video on this case best represents how I especially would want to use this case. Thanks for adding fans and using an AIO in your review. I think that is also very much more representative of how others would use it as well. I feel a lot more confident about this case in terms of performance now. Thanks again Greg, great video man.

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks for watching, Kyle!

[@jadonharper1493]

I was going to buy the case no matter what temps I got.

[@bloodduality]

Thank you for the thermal results, and lessening a fear I had. Already planning my first custom loop for this case within the next 2 or 3 months.

[@somebody6433]

Built my son's rig in an Evolve ITX case and fell in love with it. Love Phanteks cases.

[@joeywilliams604]

Just finished my build in this beast. It is a dream. Coming from a 570x mirror black I can say this is the best case ever. Tons of room. Really is a breeze to build in. Rgb lights are nice and subtle. I saw this at that show you went to (computex?), and was floored. With all fan spaces populated (360mm aio in front and 120mm fans elsewhere) it really is as cool as the 570x if not better. Only thing I can say bad is the noise compared to the 570x. At 100% fan speed I can hear them more than what could in the 570x. Mabey cause the glass is more sound dampening at the top? Really a top notch case though.

[@pureblackfire511]

the more spaced out front panel on the Evolv X makes the front fans more audible outside the case unfortunately. imo Phanteks should lower the price and just include one rear and one top exhaust fan. I think out of box temps would be better and noise would be lower. the front fans are too far away from the gpu they may as well not include them.

[@joeywilliams604]

I agree with you, the price is not too friendly. I don't really hear it unless I run 100% fan speed. My gpu stays awesomely cool though. I just got done playing the New tomb raider for about 1 1/2 hours and my GPU didn't get above 62C with a 40% fan curve on a gaming X trio. Can't hear the system over the game volume at all. Take what I say with a grain of salt though. I'm new to the PC scene and just amazed.

[@BobRossThaLegend]

@@joeywilliams604 I was looking at the 570x Mirror Black AND this case and cant make up my mind on which one to get. I was scared by the supposed temps this case was getting too

[@joeywilliams604]

I have a small video up showing the setup, not a shameless plug or anything. Just so you can see, but I'm not experiencing high temps at all. Mabey I'm doing something different. Unsure. The 570x was good temps too. My room temp is usually 73 to 77 degrees Fahrenheit. What's that like 22 to 24 Celsius?

[@thathorrorshow4126]

I have the 570x with a 1080Ti and Gpu is at 55 degrees only. When I game I crank the fans to 60 percent with 1440p settings and goes up to the high 60 degrees. 570x is a good case but the cable management is a nightmare. Good case I like it a lot. I do see people complaining about the Evolve X though but I would like to see a water loop review. You still need fresh air coming in to cool the radiators, so I dont know.

[@Raums]

30 years of building custom PCs and this is simply the best case I've used. My only gripe with the case is how hard it's been to get hold of one in silver in the EU.

[@BranZHamZ]

Accurate post-build messy room haha

[@gpraceman]

I got this case and love it. Looks great. Quality materials. Easy to build in. Tasteful RGB without going overboard. So much nicer than my last case. I do wish it was a bit cheaper though.

[@kainey]

I have this case since one week, it's just amazing. Beautiful and well thinked.

[@ChamVayne]

hello how's the case now?

[@lubo25]

Still no sign of the revolt power supply that makes dual pc builds for this chassis a reality.

[@hidoesminecraft]

Steven G it was actually available for purchase as a bundle, including the case, PSU, and bracket. You’re right on the stand alone side of things though.

[@WayStedYou]

Revolting.

[@idroppedmypocket]

Phanteks sells a power splitter...

[@lubo25]

@@idroppedmypocket that splitter is pretty ghetto. If you check their Amazon page you'll see two major things of note. i they are "currently unavailable" and ii half the reviews say they smoked the splitter within a few weeks of using it. Whether i is related to ii? No idea.

[@boatrat]

Why would you not just get a secondary little SFX size PSU, put it in the bottom under the main PSU-shroud "basement" section, in place of one of the removable HDD bays. Only limitation, is you need a main motherboard power cable way longer than normal for an M-ITX build.

[@marklamutt]

Just finished my new build in this case, and I love it. And, have not seen the high gpu temps that other reviews have commented on (at least yet). It's the most elegant case I've seen in a long time. And, I'm using the 1000w version of the RevoltX Phanteks power supply that I also got, when I purchased the dual build kit at preorder.

[@andrewstubblefield4483]

I have one Arriving Tuesday! Looking forward to getting it and putting a new build into it! Great review btw!

[@xehnrage7816]

I was able to special order this in Satin Black when it first hit Newegg. Can't wait to get it and build my loop in it. Love the Review!

[@pepe141y]

Just ordered mine a day ago. Thanks for the quick review. Can't wait to see what you build with it. 👍

[@lucaguerrieri3496]

I actually bought this case, my only complain is their cable management on the fan hub and front fans. The power cable to power the fan hub was so well hidden behind all the stock cables that i took me around 30 minutes to figure it out I was powering the wrong one and that was the reason that fans were not working. A bit of panic mode was not helping tbh. Beside that I keep a stable 60° on heavy load on cpu and a 70ish on the 1080ti, the build is quiet enough and overall good looking, cable management was easy, there is plenty of room to keep it clean, the rgbs are addressable by the mobo so the shiny lights that keeps gamers happy are on point. Filters works well (I have a cat that likes to sit on top of pc and in front of it, in 3 days the amount of hair was actually massive). I would recommend it based on a 15days test BUT is also the first high end case that I build in, so no real point of comparison. It sure is a lot better than a 70-80€ case.

[@andyaguilar488]

I was waiting for this! Thank you!

[@cugamer8862]

Every time I think I've found the case for my next build something new and sexy like this comes along. One quibble is that I wish they made a glass or mesh front panel a standard option but maybe next years model will.

[@ELEVOPR]

May I ask which Bracket you ordered from Cooler Master for the GPU to sit closer to the MotherBoard? I have a Huge Asus Rog Strix 2080 ti OC with Triple Fans and wouldn't want to choke it and have it to close to the glass door. Nice review, Decided on this one after my Cooler Master Cosmos C700M Came with a broken Curved Tempered Glass Door :o/ Then I saw the Corsair 500D So I ordered that one Since it had two Tempered Glass Swing out doors which is what I wanted. Then I saw the Evolv X and Realized that was a better option since i wanted to install at least 4 10TB HDD Drives and Realized this was a better case then the Corsair 500D. So I canceled the order on the Corsair 500D on Amazon "Within an hour" Wooossshhhh, Thank god I canceled it on time ;o) Now I waiting for this beautiful Evolv X case as it has everything I wanted. RGB was an Extra Feature from the Corsair Model which had none. the RGB is a much more Sleek and Mature RGB then most out there, that have these huge RGB 200mm Fans Glowing Rainbow colors on the front of the case, which is why I wasn't attracted to so many RGB Cases that look like they were made more for happy toddlers. Coming for a Cosmos 1000 "Angelic aka Fallen Angel" Case to this, is perfect as I am sure it won't be as big as the Cosmos 1000 just a tad smaller, but with all the space and features I wanted and a few Extras like an addition Build of a Micro Board for just for $240 cheaper then the $440 Cosmos C700M I think I saved myself a pretty penny. Thanks again for such a great review.

[@render5098]

The 2 front fans are actually not good for the case at all, they are airflow fans, that's why the mesh/panel combo drowns them. I saw similar CPU/GPU drops to your mesh off test by replacing with Chromax NFA-14's that handle SP better.

[@dhuskey82]

Thank you for this video. I've been looking for a new case for months.

[@terryd8692]

Been thinking about getting this case for a while. Not heard anything bad about it so after your review I think I might get one ordered.

[@dhuskey82]

Newegg had a brief restock today and I finally placed my order!! Can't wait!

[@abeidsalim8008]

i was worried about the temperatures after watching hardwarecanucks review!! But you have removed all my fears.Now its time to find this case as its sold out at the moment

[@AC_Milan1899]

Available everywhere man. No-ones buying this shit

[@oldskoolhead0]

couple of things to mention about this case, 1) the (painted in) motherboard stand offs take the smaller screws (that there is most of in the box) where all my other cases take the bigger ones similar to the power supply mounting screws and 2) getting back to the painted in motherboard standoffs, make sure you have a correct fitting spanner or sockets, as so much as touch the crappy paint job on the motherboard tray with a pair of needle nose plyers and you will reveal the nice shiny metal underneath, fine if you plan to put a full atx board in but not so great if you (like me) have an m-atx board, just glad i plan to upgrade it to full atx one asap.

[@literate-aside]

I'm OCD level tidy when I build. Makes life so much easier if everything has a place, and everything is planned. Really enjoyed the review, thanks. I'm super hyped for my next full water build, wish I could build in this, but the Meshify C is my next case, as it fits in my desk cupboard perfectly.

[@kwedog2373]

Nice review and really nice case. Considering what it has to offer the price doesn't seem outrageous at all. I love the fact you have space for two systems in a "mid tower" case. That's impressive to me.

[@timwynn6079]

i think that case is stunning to look at

[@LtSheppardXxL]

Finallly bought a evolve this past Xmas. Wish I had waited but I still love the one I got

[@YourTechGerman]

Getting this case in a couple of weeks! Can't wait to build my existing system into this .o./

[@musmuk5350]

This case is all i was dreaming of. I was previously using an Enthoo Mini XL for its dual system features but this one seems so much better in terms of integration, air flow and aesthetics!

[@ProjectMysticApostolate]

"SSD Hoarder" - is a really good term. lol Could you also do budget gaming laptop reviews in the future?

[@Darkcuyler]

i own the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X and trust me its a great case love everything about it

[@steverl22]

Was holding out for this case for a new gaming build....it took too long and I grabbed a Thermaltake view 71 RGB...that wonderful case!! Glad I didn't wait, Thermaltake really makes a solid case

[@MrEliwankenobi]

I absolutely love this case! Even with it’s shortcomings...

[@anders949494]

looks like this is gonna be the case when new build maby comes. Good review and that tip on the GPU holder from CM was great, noted that down if i buy it.

[@AllThatJazOfficial]

Case looks amazing. Ive just ordered mine

[@tommyzazzali]

Great video, as usual! I'd love to see a full build in it, meaning both a m-itx pc and an atx one running at the same time, just for the sake of it :D

[@generaciondel3783]

For a Ryzen 3900x refrigerated with a Nocuta NH-D15 is a good or bad option?

[@Varout04]

The case looks gorgeous. I'm not generally a fan of LEDs on my cases, but this looks amazing. I'd love to see you do a multi-part custom loop build in this case with dual GPUs if possible. It didn't look like it would be a comfortable fit having more than one GPU in there. Your thoughts?

[@kildozer2012]

liked it in the beginning, love every one of your videos

[@jorort01]

Great vid! How does the size compare to the Meshify C? Highly considering switching my build to this case.

[@Pgherardi]

Which gpu mount did you use? I just bought this case and wanted to vertical. Mount the gpu but like yours in the back. Do you think it's good for a rtx 2080 ?

[@KetchyKech]

id like to know this as well

[@nullwii]

he says in the video but doesn't list it It's a Cooler Master VERTICAL GRAPHICS CARD HOLDER KIT WITH RISER CABLE its also $90 so.... no thanks I have also had issues with riser cables causing weird performance issues / graphics problems

[@CPMEDIACREATION]

that shirt is hella badass my man, keep up the high saturated colours looks boss!

[@JP_RS6]

I think I just made my next case choice :) Love the office btw :)

[@Thunder50]

@ Science Studio, really enjoy your reviews. I'm planning a water cooling build and I'm torn between two cases I know you have reviewed so I was wondering what your choice of case would be between the Evolv X and the PC-O11 Dynamic for water cooling? Cheers and keep up the great videos.

[@GregSalazar]

For water cooling, Dynamic all the way!

[@Thunder50]

Science Studio Awesome, now to burn that hole in my pocket, lol. Thanks for the advice on the case.

[@shi3613]

Hey! A suggestion on types of videos; would you do a video on your favorite/top case every few months? Recommendations work too. Great videos btw

[@elvinrivera9070]

You’re such a humble guy, I love watching your vids! Keep it up man.

[@Aro3o6]

what brand are your glasses? they look very similar to mine, hopefully you can reply to this :)

[@union-ft6bt]

Love the case I currently have the P350X I think I will do my next Ryzen build in this case

[@michaelkregnes9119]

union 3476 I'm planning to build in This case with the New Ryzen 3000

[@adiller_]

Case reviews are epic!

[@harrisonjr98]

Hey Greg! I was between this and the Define C TG for a classy case. Was still leaning to the C even though it’s a little older now, and I remember you declared it your favorite case of all time a while back. Does it still have that distinction for its price range or has something else taken the crown?

[@GregSalazar]

In its price range, it's my favorite case :-)

[@RetroTinkerer]

Top fans seems a bit chocked to me, will you do any sort of follow up with full systems and / or custom water cooling loop?

[@jayh0086]

As an owner of an Enthoo Evolv Tempered Glass, i can confidently say that the Temperature delta from the panel on and off can easily hit 5 to 10 degrees celsius. Running an 8700k of course contributes a lot. Every time i game I OC my gpu and remove the panel entirely, its a pain in the ass but i have been looking into some water jet cutting companies to cut a design into it. JUst gotta think of something that will look good!

[@AndysPizzaSlice]

*drools* my case comes in today, great video!

[@cmitchellfly]

Thank you for the review. By the way, on your content pieces I always hit the like button right after I start the video.

[@darkwaxer]

Looking to build a new PC now. Have wanted one of these for years but is this the best options to go from in 2023? Heard these cases run hot now.

[@harambae7014]

Looks like an almost perfect case. The only thing I'm not really a fan of is the huge cutout at the top-rear for an ITX system. I mean, it's great if you're going for a dual system build, but if you aren't then you're just left with a massive hole. Would have been nice to see some kind of removable panel to cover it up when not in use.

[@AllThatJazOfficial]

Pretty sure there is but he had it out

[@brianhoward9217]

Gorgeous case, a little unnecessarily big for my needs but I will consider this carefully for my next build. It really looks the goods. Such a damn shame no optical drive as I heavily use that for video production. The size of the thing it could have easily fitted in, dunno what Phanteks was thinking. I'll have to get an exxy external one if I buy this case. Love the cutout to show off the PSU. Many other makers can learn from that - very thoughtful. Thanks for a very professional video SciStudio!

[@samuelkastepold4162]

It has space for optical drives, under the PSU shroud.

[@brianhoward9217]

@@samuelkastepold4162 - Haha . . . you're kidding, right? You want me to take the side panel off and the PSU shroud each time I want to insert or remove a DVD/DC/M-Disc? There is not and never has been an optical drive placement area under a PSU shroud. Bizarre to even imagine that. I think you're having a go at me so I'm just choosing to smile on this occasion :-)

[@playonkorg]

Dear Greg, thank you for this vid. Please, can you tell me more about the power supply place? There was no attention and I wanne know about the heat flow and the sound (is it a quiet house?) thx!

[@DocRealTalk]

I'm really considering getting this for my new build but for some reason the Eclipse 719 full tower costs less than this. Do you know how they compare?

[@StaticLowLife]

You mentioned some kind of bracket or something from Cooler master (I believe) that you used to fasten the gpu. Got any link for that?

[@Arik-2103]

www.coolermaster.com/case/case-accessories/vertical-graphics-card-holder-kit/

[@StaticLowLife]

@@Arik-2103 thanks 👍

[@Kottesque]

I bought two (one silver, one anthracite) for two new builds I'm about to undertake, and my only critique would be that the Phanteks Vertical GPU Kit, which I also purchased to allow me to move the card away from the window, isn't as compatible as one might think...I may have to cut out the existing rear PCI-e bracket slots to fit it...I have yet to receive it, but am almost certain this is what I will have to do, unless the GPU sits at a comfortable position away from the glass side panel (which I doubt it will). The case does NOT come with the riser cable, only the mounting base so I purchased the kit to allow me to have a few options, e.g. using the already installed vertical slots, using the new bracket, or horizontal mounting...I have yet to decide.

[@Stedmister]

I'm replacing a 13 year old gaming PC, I don't really wanna go over the top, but want it to last. I really like the look of this case, is it a bit of overkill you think. The board I've gone with is RGB enabled, system will have 16 GB ram, and one video card , rtx 2070 OC. I do most of my gaming via console, but want to get into VR

[@oopsydaisy74]

great video, what did you use for gpu vertical mount?

[@JR16599]

Just wondering I had recently bought this pc case not too long ago and am questioning the d-rgb connect for the case. My motherboard is a asus crosshair VI hero and have no place to connect the d-rgb connector to the motherboard (ADD Header). Is there a way I can connect the d-rgb to my asus crosshair VI hero so I can use use the AURA Sync program with it or would I have to get a new motherboard?

[@Mr.P.Griffith]

I have the phanteks eclipse p400 tg with a 360 aio in the front as intake. It was a dream to set up as well and the rgb fans and strips work great. I'm pretty happy considering how much i paid.

[@Sl0baZl0ba]

Very beautiful case.

[@TheYosiFTW]

I work in IT and build PCs almost every day, however it's usually in cheap shitty cases and they are a pain to work with. When I build my own PC on the Evolv mATX it was amazing. Building on it was delightful. If they make an Evolv X mATX I will consider getting one just for the improved airflow.

[@jamz007ap]

This is a well thought out case. I would use this in a dream build for gaming & streaming, with dual amd platforms.

[@mondipedragosa2300]

Hi! would the Phanteks Halos RGB Fan Frames 140mm work on this without connecting to mother board? I want to control the Phanteks Halos with the Evolv X controller, is that possible?

[@ACS_Media]

Great looking case

[@SalvadorCalaf]

Can you please tell me the colour of case on the video? "satin black" or "anthracite grey"? thanks

[@smartroadbiker]

Can I say I have 5 SSD's. It isn't a case (haha me make pun!) of being a hoarder, it is about cost. Most of mine are 250GB with one being a 500GB. I have that many as when I ran low on space for my games I brought a new one (this is over many years as well). I can't afford to buy a massive drive hence why I have multiple small ones. Not to mention the drives work fine, I don't want to get rid of one just because it has run out of space.

[@LittleBilly1620]

excellent review!

[@MrStranger1944]

Love those addressable LEDs.

[@bengrogan9710]

I'm hoping phanteks will sell extra / replacement front panels. I fully intend to put one on my miller at work to do some nice hole grids for even better airflow

[@jomendoz13]

Mine is arriving today, too bad I won't be able to move my components because of school project and exams. Nice review

[@lebobrando101]

Just wondering what's the cooler master riser kit you used to position the GPU closer to the motherboard. thank you.

[@ianpaynetravel]

My view is its a well built, highly functional work of art, I just built in to the grey one, still need to get RGB fans

[@boatrat]

Nice. I think we have a winner. That minimal temp difference with the front panel on/off, allays the only remaining worry I had about this one. And everything else seems first-rate. The only "complaint" I've yet even heard from anyone else, is the subjective notion that those back hinged cable-management SSD-tray-door things, seem "gimmicky" or cheap. Well... they perform the function as advertised... And if you don't like them, I guess you could just take them out? I honestly don't really understand how there's a down-side. The only real idea for "improvement" I can come up with, is purely a cosmetic embellishment: Maybe if I got ambitious and fabbed an additional piece of aluminum (or Stainless? Hmm...) to go inside as a full height standoff cover-plate, to go over the top of where those internal sliding plastic cable-cover things are.

[@hammybunghole4275]

That case will be in my next build

[@smartroadbiker]

Why don't case designers make the rear slot mounts rotatable so a GFX card can be mounted 'normally' or as you have vertically. It must be possible to do...

[@videosbymathew]

What would you guys recommend for fan placement? I was thinking of keeping the 1200RPM (I think) stock fans in place (2x front, 1x back) and just adding a couple of 800RPM at the top for additional exhaust. That provides a slightly negative pressure case for maximum cooling. Recommended?

[@jordan-yy5rq]

Evolv X or PC o11? I want vertical GPU and will be using cooler master's bracket. Gonna be using 360mm rad.

[@Wistbacka]

The only bad thing I find with this case, is that it only has 2 usb ports in the front IO (plus the usbc) making it impossible to have both systems connected to the front IO. I am thinking the use would be for limited desk space, and both you akd your partner/room mate share the chassi and both want to hook up their controllers and play e.g. rocket league together. Or something similar.

[@skian33]

The use is perhaps aimed at twitch and youtube streamers?

[@ChaironDeCeleste]

Sold out until late october here. Phanteks own pr strikes back.

[@jahuknw]

Does it come with 3x 120 fans or 3x 140 fans? Im waiting on my case to show up and I was sure it was 120 front fans. Glad I didn't buy extra fans yet.. 🤔

[@donkeysunited]

Does it come with any panels to cover the holes in the back for the ITX MB and above the riser slots? You would have to make sure your case has lots of positive pressure to avoid dust being pulled in there, especially if you have fans mounted in the roof.

[@carlwells9504]

I don't feel so bad about my workspace now 😅 Great case- I would like to see something similar to a Thermaltake View case but with cable channels like the NZXT cases to SHOW your cable management handiwork along with exposed PSU for nice full modular units with custom cabling. It's a shame hiding these cables when you go to all the effort.

[@pilferedglory5341]

iLike how you used all silver components. iWas thinking of doing the same thing, but with a EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 and a ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E motherboard. Since the power supply shroud has no ventilation on the top of it, is it removable? I'm thinking about using a Thermaltake 360 rad with the NZXT Kraken G12 bracket for the GPU, but I'm not sure how the air flow would be considering the bottom intake fan would be under the power supply shroud.

[@170adamb1]

Will this case fit a 154mm wide gpu waterblock without clearance issues with the window. Had to send my 011 dynamic back cause gpu was too wide duh! Should have checked specs.

[@colorado_koolaid2625]

Yo Greg, what gpu mount did you use exactly? Thanks

[@Mike220111]

I'm looking towards buying a new case and two options are EvolveX and the PC-011 from Lian Li, but I'm more Interested of the PC-011 because like the side of the case like the right of the motherboard, you can mount fans or a 360 rad.

[@funbucket09]

Temperature comparison of the built in vertical GPU mount VS the cooler master mount?? I use the built in mount of the fractal R6 and have never had a temperature issue. I would be curious to see the difference. Thanks Greg!!

[@omaribrahim9271]

why are people complaining about airflow? tons of space and luckily, you can put 140mm rear fan. not many cases over this.

[@gomezalejandrog]

Would you recommend the cablemod verticle gpu mounting bracket over the cooler master mounting bracket specirically for this case?

[@metalphobos3632]

Im actually looking for a mid size case with good flow. Something not too flashy. This case is one im looking at. Id like to stay with a white case and something that can hold a 360mm rad/fans. Any other suggestions?

[@Arik-2103]

Fractal Design Meshify C White

[@kodaloid]

Any chance you could review a decent quality case that still has one or two 3.5 bays? I know it's not super cool any more, but I still have a bd drive and DVD-RW that I use a hell of a lot, and will be looking for a new case soon for a TR4 build I am saving for.

[@MrGeepz]

How did you install the cooler master gpu vertical mount? Did you have to cut the metal on the case to install it ?

[@Tkdmaster1991]

This case doesn't look bad, but the lack of open airflow for fans kills it completely for me. Top has just that tiny bit of mesh to vent through, which in my opinion isn't near enough.