Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S4:E12

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

I had random shutdowns during stress testing and narrowed it down to a power delivery issue. It was my psu taking a dump on me, replaced it and the issue was gone. All thanks to this playlist for helping me narrow it down. Love this playlist

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

Also my gpu slot tab also is kind of broken and you right it still slots in, just you have the risk of your gpu slightly coming out of the slot if moving your rig

[@GregSalazar]

That's awesome!

[@Remu-]

@@TheBlueBunnyKen It shouldn't fall out if you screw it in. The plastic tab is hardly something that would keep it in place.

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

@@Remu- omg I'm an idiot, I forgot about the screws xD

[@elusivelectron]

​@@GregSalazarI hate when people don't use punctuation.

[@HEXSIDE]

Friend had the very same issue very recently, but i told him, check temps. Turns out his Ryzen 5 3600 was running at 90+ as well on the stock AMD cooler. New cooler fixed the entire issue!

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

Yeesh, that's bad

[@WirrWicht]

So, his cooler was defective? This never happened to me with AMD stock coolers.

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

@@WirrWicht I have a feeling it probably wasn't fully contacting the cpu

[@HEXSIDE]

@@WirrWicht Noooo, he just didnt replace the thermal paste in a long time, it dried up and thats basically why it went that high

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

@@HEXSIDE ah ok

[@RVail623]

The bios version shown at 14:15 is 2.05, while the latest bios version shown on Asus's web site is 2.16. That and the mis-matched DDR4 is a likely source of stability issues. You may need to freeze-frame & at an increased screen resolution to view it, but the two memory speeds are identified as: 3200 MHz & 2400 MHz. However, the overall system memory is apparently overclocking the 2400 MHz speed memory to 3200 MHz speed: not good. Simply updating the bios firmware may have been enough to fix the issue, although still not a good idea to have mis-matched memory speeds installed.

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

Probably!!

[@EestiGaming]

You're most likely correct. I ran into similar issues (bios freezing and winload errors) on an X99 system a few weeks ago, and a BIOS update was what ended up fixing it.

[@Stefan-bf2gb]

Agree 3 Dimm 's - nogo...

[@anthonyrobu8633]

while the general rule of thumb of mismatch ram being a no-no, that didn't appear to be the problem here. As originally once the half seated gpu was corrected it loaded and ran without any dimm errors. It wasn't until the new cpu cooler was installed that it started throwing dimm error and boot cycling issue presented as an issue.

[@RVail623]

@@anthonyrobu8633 Did Greg try booting with only 2x8GB of the (faster speed) original dimms? Maybe the better option would have been to use some other brand of CPU cooler that wouldn't interfere with those 2x DDR4 dimms installed.

[@mikerl489]

I'm almost positive these components are from an ASUS pre-built PC, the G15CE-B11. I recognize it because I bought the same one back during the GPU shortages of late 2020-2021, it was basically the only way to get a 3080 at the time. BIOS screen showing "G15CE" confirmed it. That's why he's got a B560 paired with an i7-11700KF, with the inadequate CPU cooler and the mismatched RAM. The green stick ram is what came with the system originally. It was a great machine for me, but only after a case swap and CPU cooler upgrade. With the original case and CPU cooler it ran REALLY hot. The only fans in the original case were the one on this poor CPU cooler, and a 92mm exhaust fan in the back.

[@J03130]

be quiet did well to sponsor you because i can say they've hooked at least one person. everything they make looks great especially that case. something really clean about it

[@samimermer1982]

Only cablemanagement is a bit difficult without channels, but still better than most cases. It has an argb cable you need to connect on your board and an sata connector. If you do not have argb you can still use the case prefixed lighting. Connecting the ssd sata cables is an hassle if you do not know the easy way which is connect the cables first and then put the be quiet logo on. It is such a beautiful case. I have the fx and my son has the dx version. Made a build for my cousin with the dx version aswell. Btw. Connect one of the fans on channel 1 on the fan hub(if you have the fx) to control the case fan curves on your bios or software.

[@duckpwnd]

Greg is a wise man. He is known by many names such as The Destroyer of Dust, Mr. Microcenter, The King of Cable Management, The Banisher of Blue Screens, The Thasher of Thernal Throttling, The Baron of be Quiet!, etc. edit: Actually, I think The Maestro of Microcenter sounds better

[@BentoBox487]

I love all of these names, but "The Baron of be Quiet!" is my favorite. Great job! Lol. Got my like!

[@UlrichLeland]

The King of not turning on the psu or plug socket.

[@roppongiful]

The Remover Of That Annoying Watermark

[@ArtisChronicles]

​@@UlrichLeland I often forget to turn on the PSU and then wonder wtf happened. Especially since it was working 15 minutes ago

[@kevorkyijan118]

And Mr Refurbisher of Functional Case😅

[@NoFailer]

I am surprised his tech savvy friends did not check the temps. Also those poor 3200 Mhz sticks were running at 2400 Mhz all this time :(

[@Nagalior]

anyone who can name at least 2 computer components is "tech savvy" for people who knows nothing about computer.

[@TruthHurts1519]

​@@Nagaliortrue

[@astrayamatu]

@@Nagalior yep thats so treu

[@iconoclast485]

Dunning- Kruger at it's finest.

[@dennisphillips9089]

His "tech savy" friends probobly told him to send it to Gregg for a sweet upgrade.

[@Fiberoptiks]

You REALLY hooked the viewer up this time, that GSkill looks killer against the cooler on those side profile shots

[@seeking.eternity]

yeah, dude got a nice and quality case, beefy cooler, and that trident z royal really got me jealous dude got a premium build now feels a little sus though

[@GregSalazar]

@@seeking.eternity People always say this. "Looks sus." "Seems like he planted this hardware in there." "He just wanted free stuff." We don't guarantee _any_ upgrades, let alone _fixes_ hahah.

[@seeking.eternity]

@@GregSalazar true, but that just always runs through my head when I see some of these hope it wasn't though, as some people who really needed it could have used it instead (as far as actually "needing" something for a gaming pc goes) :)

[@-Brunnen-G]

I think we ,as PC builders, make building a PC sound super easy. We tend to be a more detailed bunch. People with little to no experience overlook the details required to get a PC running correctly and as efficiently as possible which leads to issues such as these. I think we need to be more adamant in explaining these details and making sure they understand them before attempting to build their own.

[@yetischmetti9529]

I got into PC building almost 2 years ago, and I think some pc builders make it sound too simple, at least that was my experience when I made my first build. I think it's not as difficult as a new builder might think it is, but it definitely isn't just plugging some things in and getting a working PC. I appreciate you noting that.

[@danimayb]

@@yetischmetti9529 Indeed. In principle, it is straightforward.. You are basically seating/connecting/plugging things in. But in reality it's not as simple and comes with caveats or possible headaches lol and certain ways to do things the right way. But like anything, Once you get used to it, it does become straightforward.. But still carries possible headaches.

[@Ladioz]

BEQUIET to the rescue.... what a big difference. So much cleaner... quieter... airflow... well done Greg mate

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

I want quieter fans, but they not daisy chainable and are pricey. Noctua is the quietest, but is too pricey

[@Ladioz]

@@TheBlueBunnyKen Silent Wings 4 PWM are the most quiet fans ive ever used. Try them.

[@luvingyouu]

@@TheBlueBunnyKen get an arctic p12 pst (120mm) or p14 pst (140mm) 5 pack and you will love them, extremely quiet and move a bunch of air

[@RichWhiteUM]

@@luvingyouu I will concur. Arctic has the best bang for buck fans and great customer service, if something should go wrong with them. They're also daisy chainable.

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

@@luvingyouu I have 2 P14's in my system, love them, as my my 2 exhaust fans they Arctic f12 bionix fans and they have a hum to them at higher rpm's

[@nubsandbolts920]

@GregSalazar very nice of you tuning up this customer hitting everybase that you could'. Regarding the memory for the DDR4 i had a similar issue with my new custom prebuilt that i was using to re-learn as upgrading/swapping parts, when i had this mobo and dimms which work perfectly in another rig i gavce to a friend. I thought all was lost as i didn't know much and was in a boot loop after other errors, mine was a bad mem oclock which i dont bother with today aside from xmp.. but it looks very similar, I booted after a long cmos reset(battery out) then put in only one dimm in the slot booted with that after getting another mem light.. again same cl 16 ddr4 new worked graeat! Now if i do want to mess with it again i got new cl14 3600 mhz with a sexy dual bios/cmos button havin msi mobo but i think ill still just xmp/xpo lol. Thanks for the assist in learning over the last 2 years.

[@Kacheng_3080]

The 2 RAM kits were rated at different frequency shown on the bios at 14:24 (3200Mhz and 2400Mhz respectively) so maybe that was causing the instability after the case transplant?

[@Shadowdane]

yah if he applied XMP. it's probably using whichever XMP profile is in the primary slots. When you have mismatched kits you have to stick to the JEDEC speeds 2133Mhz. Or tune the ram manually to the lowest speed/timings supported by both kits.

[@RichWhiteUM]

That's quite possible. The rule back in the day when I did PC building and repair was like with like. Keep the same speed, CL, and if possible brand. You can mix size but speed and CL should be kept the same to minimize any potential issues. EDIT: Keep in mind that motherboards will set memory to the base set for that board. To get memory to the manufacturer's listed speed is actually an overclock. If one set is rated at 2400 and the other is rated to 3200, turning on XMP at a rated speed can cause instability with the lower rated set if you set it to that of the higher rated set. If mixing speed, set the speed of both sets to that of the lowest rated. With that said, I have also seen issues like what Greg hinted at where it would cause the system to not boot, if you swapped one set of dimms to the other set of slots. Swapping the dimms back around would fix it. I've seen that happen even if you were following the rule I stated above. When possible, I just prefer to use 2 dimms that equal the total amount of memory wanted for the system (ie. if wanting 32gb get 16gbx2 set instead of 8gbx4). If that means spending a little more to upgrade down the road, so be it. I'd rather minimize potential headaches than worry about a few dollars in budget. If I were to make a guess based solely on what is seen in the video, I'd say Greg was right and for whatever reason the motherboard wasn't happy about the memory slots being flipped. That, when combined with your observation, tells me that Greg was best off doing the dimm swap that he did in the end. It was the easiest fix with the least amount of headache involved.

[@Masterninja2321]

But he didn’t enable XMP till after he put the tridents in

[@BobStoneBoi]

This is what happened. You can see above the ram specs it shows 32gb of 3200mhz. Took the rates speed of the primary slot.

[@Jwalker76]

Greg did say it was hanging in bios. Maybe he was unable to change xmp.

[@trick0502]

The ram was trying to run at 3200 because of the order swap. Those green pcb stick couldn’t keep.

[@PitchBlackWolf490]

I had the same problem, in my case it was the Motherboard. My PC is actually a pre build that I bought during the dark age of mining prices and it was significantly cheaper than building it myself. I just sent it back after it crashed all the time, sometimes after just 5min in game or just on my homescreen and sometimes after up to 5hrs while gaming. After it shut itself down it took like 5 attempts to turn it back on, it would just turn off right after hitting the power button. The technician called me while he was troubleshooting my PC and he was like "I dont have any Problems with your rig, are you sure that.....nevermind it just turned of. I'll come back to you". So they replaced the motherboard but I never got to know what the problem with it was

[@markmcmillan6254]

I'm a big fan of BeQuiet. I've got a BQ case and cooler with no complaints. It's great that they sponsor your channel. I've learned alot watching your adventures. Please don't stop doing what you're doing.

[@fanofentropy2280]

I've played around with mis-matched ddr4 kits and when using 2 sticks, A2 and B2 are the main slots, but if you run 4 sticks, A1 & B1 take the lead and determine the timings.

[@TerQi]

yeah ive seen that same ram no boot issue due to order the way i fix it is to reset the cmos before adding in new ram or reordering the ram from experience older xeon and some ryzen cpus are pretty picky on what slot the memory is in

[@imglidinhere]

I have built shoddier PCs in my long winded history of being a nerd. This PC would be considered 'spiffy' by my standards something like, 10 years ago! It's a lesson we ALL need to learn the hard way (though you definitely help) that you do not skimp on the PSU or the Case in any PC build. A bad case can ruin an otherwise golden PC and a bad PSU can... well... we've all experienced what bad power supplies do. If you haven't seen/dealt/suffered that side of things, GN has a wonderful video on some cheapo gigabyte models *exploding.* Glad you're able to help out someone else here Greg! :D You rock!

[@jenrosejenrose7417]

The depth of knowledge available on KZbin now compared to what was available when I first built a computer is staggering. I end up building more systems because it seems like a waste not to use the knowledge, but I've run out of family to upgrade.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

I was upgrading one of my friend’s PC, he had a 8GB stick of 2400mhz XMP memory and a 8GB stick of 3200mhz JEDEC standard memory (he was getting upgraded to a i7-6700 non-K from a i5-7400). Whenever I tried to enable XMP regardless of the CPU, half of the ram would simply disappear. Windows and the BIOS would only recognize 8GB of memory on 1 of the slots. I assume maybe something similar with RAM compatibility is happening here, just on a far worse level

[@TRD_2zz]

Updating the BIOS may have helped memory compatibility also, but mixing kits is never advised anyway.

[@BrownStain_Silver]

This one was really fun. You totally transformed the owner's PC! It looks amazing now!

[@rappidralph8863]

I had a similar problem where my computer was working fine then when on internet playing a game would crash well after a few tests it turned out to be a HDD a 1 terabyte drive was failing backed it up replaced drive problem gone easy when you know what to do.

[@MyWasteOfTime]

Just think how hard this is for those of us that don't have extra hardware to test with! Thank you for this series!

[@NonLegitNation2]

i've gotten into the habit of when I upgrade parts I will sell the old parts and actually buy some lower end parts to have as backups. I bought a RX580 incase my 3080 craps out on me. Bought a 16gb kit of ddr4 incase I have issues with my 64gb kit. I have a Ryzen 2600 incase my 5900x has problems. The only thing I don't have replacements for is a mobo and psu and I'm planning on buying a cheap b450 mobo next week. For psu I'm not sure, maybe one of those cheap silverstone psus without any kind of energy rating.

[@julianpearce6869]

@@NonLegitNation2 i always hang onto some stuff and a backup myself. plus have a whole 2nd lower end PC i built off used and leftover parts as a precaution

[@shaneeslick]

G'day, You don't need a Cupboard full of components or spend $$$$ to have some extra hardware to test for most basic problems, just a $10-$20 GPU like the XFX Greg uses, GT710 or even an old Quadro & the cheapest Green RAM Stick won't cost much or take up lots of storage space. Then following Gregs Testing Procedures in a relative FoF video can get you sorted in many situations.

[@arminius1972]

Greg, people in and around Orlando are very lucky to have someone like you do what you do. I have learned a lot watching your videos, so thank you for that.

[@mrN3w7]

Oh man I tried that case once - is terrible. Was for sale on Amazon. Returned it the same day lol - rust and bubbling paint plus flimsy metal parts. I had the same issue with the video card not sitting properly without bending the mounting point on the case... garbage! It was branded as "AMANSON PC CASE ATX Mid Tower Case". Corsair clone.

[@zacharyberridge7239]

I had the same issue with some bad ddr4. It would crash in the strangest way. First, the audio would get... odd, then it would crash completely. Swapped them out, and problem solved!

[@CommanderBradAS]

Had an issue with my display out just turning off randomly. Did some troubleshooting that I learned from this series and with the help of the discord Found out that my top PCIE slot was toast. Was able to send it back for RMA and am currently waiting for my replacement. Thanks for everything.

[@unnerdboricua3178]

Hi Greg! I just wanted to thank you for your time and effort in doing these videos. I have learned so much from you, and you have saved me so much money you have no idea. I live in Puerto Rico and PC stores charge over $150 just to check a PC you can imagine the rest. I have fixed my friends PC's and mine. Also, I haven't been subscribed for that long but I watched all your older videos. Your content has helped with my anxiety and depression. Thank you Greg! Also, love your taste on watches I have a couple of Seikos and 1 Omega Speed Master i inherited. Thank's again ♥️

[@Addeatt]

How comforting. I picked up a 6th generation HP rig and have gone through hours of testing with the same result of 3 long beeps, 2 short beeps. I've gone through all the support pages over at HP and have given up for the day. Hopefully something sticks tomorrow.

[@chris_007]

After seeing the mismatched RAM that was my first guess as to what was causing the issue. Then I saw that the RAM sticks were rated at different speeds. I think you were spot on with the new dimm slot order being the issue. It might have been trying to make the other RAM perform at higher frequencies than it could handle?

[@Dyonivan]

I had this exact issue with my (then) brand new computer. 12600KF + RTX 3080. Random but consistent shutoffs in games, but I could run benchmarks for 3 hours without a single shutdown. Turned out to be the PSU's tight OCP tolerances were shutting down the computer from transient power spikes from the 3080. I was using an EVGA G5 850w PSU, and switched to a Seasonic Focus Platinum 1000w PSU. Solved my problems. I think benchmarks don't cause transient power spikes like playing games does, and therefore it's hard to diagnose or recreate with benchmarks.

[@TheXeroLink]

Always here for the new episodes. More food for my brain!

[@bramhenry1163]

My favourite is crashes like this caused by a failing 3.5” drive that doesn’t have the OS on it, like a game drive, it happens way too frequently

[@mikedavis4214]

Hi Greg, SPD is taken from slot 0 for both banks. So the slow memory must be in slot 0 otherwise it may throw errors due to issues like default speed or timing. It's always best to use matched memory.

[@pdandersondo46]

I truly love the thoroughness of your repairs. Very much appreciated. I have yet to see a vid from you unworthy of a thumbs up!

[@albundy7718]

If you use two different 16 GB RAM Kits the XMP Settings used is usually that of the Kit that is placed where you normally put a single Kit. If that Kit has CL16 Setting but the 2nd Kit only works with max CL18 for example it will cause problems. On the other hand if the Kits are switched CL18 would be used on all the Kits and it should work fine. Different max Frequencies can cause this too of course.

[@RuruFIN]

When it's a new Fix or Flop episode, I can already give a thumbs up before watching.

[@lentas4921]

I also have cat on my home. And i am from finland

[@Evilcitizen]

Its great you had the parts on hand to be able to fix the heating and structure issue. Bequiet comes in clutch.

[@unknown14191]

Broken motherboard traces seems to be the case here for the memory issues. There are many possible reason for broken traces: 1) Motherboard PCB under structural stress from bad mounting of components/heavy components like the CPU heatsink. 2) During removal/installation of memory when motherboard is in case. 3) The 24 pin motherboard power on motherboard is very hard to remove/install, causing more force required which may bend part of the motherboard more than usual.

[@tohothewriter8002]

The owner's DIMMs were originally white, green, white, green. It's really weird that having the two kits in the other channel caused boot looping. One would never guess it's something as minor as seeding RAM sticks in different memory channels than in the known working configuration. I'm wondering if the mounting pressure of the "old" CPU cooler wasn't sufficient for adequate heat transfer since it shot straight to throttling temps as soon as AIDA's stress test started. Wouldn't be the most outlandishly plausible cause in my mind. Also, it'd be really nice if the owner gave you your DDR4 kit back, since you don't have many to spare. Your generosity in these Fix or Flop videos is truely the most note worthy part of your personality that draws me to watch this serie with avid interest! Keep doing such an awesmazing job, Greg, the PC/tech communities need more folks like you! Unrelated question; next new house video when? I'm curious to hear how that's going for you. Hopefully well enough that there isn't any major snag that delays the move in.

[@denault3985]

Great job Greg, the new case, fans, ram and huge new CPU cooler did the trick... You're cabling also improved the system, considerably!

[@carbinebite1133]

4:45 I can't believe you actually unscrewed the one screw giving that gpu any support while the card was just dangling vertically. Rookie move.

[@Crazytrain334]

greg you outright nearly gave this man a brand new pc i wish i lived near Florida so you could fix my pc but ty so much for what you do good man

[@CrunkyOMan83]

totally agree with overclocking....a little phycadelic music and montage is a vibe! I wonder if those memory sticks will work on a different pc. Anyone know free version of the ida 64 bunin?

[@MojoWrangler]

I recall when those version of the Trident RAM was released. That was a super expensive set, and a nice up for helping correct a user created issue with mismatched sticks and not even attempting to pick something that looked like the same kit.

[@robmxuk]

With the socket retention clip broken, wouldn't it help to install an anti-sag bracket for the GPU.

[@GregSalazar]

The clip does nothing for graphics card sag. He'd be in the same boat either way.

[@robmxuk]

I do agree, but the sag in this build plays havoc with my OCD. Can you get Lian Li to sponsor you with some of those nifty anti sag brackets that mount to the board. You could fit them to all the builds with the heavier cards. @@GregSalazar

[@gpredd1]

I have no idea why I love watching these fix or flop video's and really love seeing pc's get cleaned. I'm old. LOL

[@TheDotTim]

This series has taught me so much about computers, it led to me building my own and if i ever had any problems i knew a video here that had the same problem and a potential fix for it. I've even begun helping my brother build his and troubleshoot it, thank you so much for these videos, they are the best on youtube IMO :D

[@stephandolby]

The old cooler looked like there was a quantity of fluff between the fan and the actual heatsink. Lovely.

[@ondrejlol]

I have seen this ram issue on older ryzen cpu (1000 or 2000 series) with mismatched kits. It would work in one order, completely unstable in the other one. Probably has to do with the RAM subtimings or something from the kit in the "main" memory channel.

[@AlexHusTech]

*Great video, always learning something new!*

[@mclytesabr666]

Upgraded his cooler from a micro to a full on BBC. Very nice!

[@lagpi]

You could say that guys rig was told to BE-QUIET, post swap You're a real one Greg, keep it on❤

[@bubbaray998]

That motherboard and CPU config is out of an older ASUS pre-built G15CE. A friend of mine bought it a while ago and had the same issues. The cooler you upgraded him to doesn't fit within the old G15CE case. The B560 Plus Wifi motherboard is a special built one that you can't even do a BIOS upgrade on.

[@bobbymoss6160]

When I built my gaming rig a couple of years ago, I actually undervolted the Ryzen CPU and kept it at stock speed. You get more performance and bang for buck from a Gen4 M.2 NvME than overclocking and overheating your CPU, requiring a higher end cooling system.

[@rowdyrod]

Fantastic troubleshooting as always! This is a priceless series.

[@florihae]

I did some Fix or Flop myself. Had a PC with a Ryzen 3600x and a GTX 1660ti with a Seasonic 650W PSU. All nice. Upgraded the GPU to a 7900XTX, all nice. Upgraded the CPU to a Ryzen 5800X3D, random crashes while gaming?! ...you guessed it, the much faster CPU allowed the GPU to draw it's full 400W and therefore triggering the PSU 😂 Upgraded to a Corsair RMx1000, all perfect since then! PSU is still peefectly fine and runs in my Wifes PC with said Ryzen 3600x and her new RX7900GRE ❤

[@luciahaskins3170]

I fixed my computer's shut off during gaming problem recently- The 16 pin power to the motherboard wasn't fully inserted on one side. I went through swapping graphics cards and I was about to swap power supplies when I found the error.

[@justinpatterson5291]

Unless you had the card spare. That sounds expensive.

[@luciahaskins3170]

@@justinpatterson5291 Just multiple working computers.

[@louisglen1653]

I am having a new computer made and will be using Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 for my cooler simply because you like the product so much!.

[@rainerbehrendt9330]

I'm using the Dark Rock Pro4 with a AMD 3700x and 32 GD RAM since 2020. First Thing was RAM Clearance. No Bling Bling RAM. Low Profile and the Job is done. Corsair Vengeance LPX does the Trick. I'm using a Fractal Meshify C with solid Side Panels so no Blink Blink here.

[@mgut17]

Greg try to check the nvme, i had the same exact symptoms on my pc i switched out everything and still would just shut down without any warning, turns out the was the nvme ssd that was causing my problems

[@alexanderalexandrou]

I bought 4 sticks of DDR4 for my latest build. All identical, but packaged in couples. All it took was putting one stick from the one box with another from the other box on the same memory lane to not have post. Mismatched RAM is a hell of a thing!

[@shawner7340]

Love these videos, helps me learn without having to go through the headache of trouble shooting. even though i have 2 builds with issues i need to fix lol

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

PC troubleshooting is annoying in general with the new windows. I hate how complicated windows is, if you can't sign in you can't troubleshoot

[@Faith.in.His.Grace.]

I'n my experience if the new memory is an issue, a bios update usually fixes the problem

[@DragunnitumGaming]

Same!! 🎉

[@owokemosan]

Fun fact, the PCIE retention arm can be clip back by sliding it from right to left, push hard on it until you feel it click back in, it happens quite often on ROG boards not sure it's a feature or it's intentional.

[@Miniputt_999]

The combination of the Bequiet 500 DX/FX and a Dark Rock Pro 4 is just beautiful. Did not expect the ram to fail after a case and cooler swap, very interesting. But that is now a really cool and beefy gamer pc :D Good job Greg, thanks for all the effort and generosity you put into these videos :D

[@SAMarcus]

I have had that exact same issue with RAM, although it was with DDR3. It took me forever to isolate the problem, but some BIOS chipsets just refuse to accept certain types of mismatched RAM. I BELIEVE that it is speed related, either it's trying to force a DIMM to run too fast or there's a very bad mismatch with the RAM specs and what the board is programmed to handle. Like, if the board can do 100x4 and 100x8, but the RAM is set for 100x6, then the board freaks out and just loops. On a separate issue, yes, DUST BAD! I recently decided to clean a floor fan and I was AMAZED at the airflow difference after I removed the dust caked onto the leading edge of the fan blades. They are called BLADES for a reason it seems! Like a knife edge, fan blades "dulled" by dust caking on them cannot "cut" into the air properly anymore and therefore can't push air like they are supposed to. So, filters and regular cleaning people!

[@sakebombyum]

The RGB connector on the upper left of the board...the top pin was bent a good way. And I'd also be curious what the VRAM temps are. 3080's are notorious for having very hit GDDR6X.

[@mb14u2c2]

Jesus who else thinks KZbin is getting out of control with ads every 4 minutes…. 6 ads in one video is ridiculous

[@Big_boom90]

Greg again, you've blessed another viewer and my eyes for watching such a great video and learning from you is great! Thank you for being amazing! This pc got a complete makeover, your wire tuck skills are superb and you really know how to make everything look great. Good job brother 👏

[@PixelatedH2O]

It's wild to me how the PC experience can vary so much between builds. I was gifted a PC in 2019 from my dad, which he built. It was only a few weeks ago when I was upgrading it that I found out there was absolutely zero thermal compound between the cooler and CPU. Somehow it ran, never overheating, for almost four years just fine.

[@jacobp4153]

Wow you hooked this guy up! Good stuff Greg!

[@SteveODonnell]

I have the 500 FX and it's a stunning case. Built the PC a couple months ago. Ryzen 7 7700, 32GB 6000 DDR5, RX 7900XT

[@BowsettesFury]

Wait what? Did you check the original RAM kit in the test bench? That’s really odd.

[@JohhnyBloke]

I had random shutdowns, after trying about everything I was able to figure out that it was due to the selected XMP profile 2, my x570 tomahawk really didn't like that with my gskill ram.

[@Bigsteve187]

Hi there just a quick stop by loved the video as always but I just wanted to say.... you truly are a lovely person and very generous with your parts and time ..that's all have a brilliant and lovely day and thank you for your hard work and videos they have helped and I'm sureany others aswell 🎉🎉❤❤

[@codygrinnell8676]

Great video as always!!! And the last Air Cooler I used was the Darkrock Pro 3 before switching to a AIO..

[@johngangemi1361]

Nice cooler. The original case was crap and the cooler was way too small. Great video Greg.

[@KitsuneVoss]

I was going to write that both the FX-8350 and i7 11700KF are 125 watt and I used a similar heat sink / cpu fan on my old FX-8350 but notice that while my heat sink / cooling fan are almost the width of the DDR3 while that heat sink / cooling of that computer is significantly narrower than the DDR4 modules. Both DDR4 and DDR3 are the same width.

[@simonfaulkner5596]

Ha ha - I love it! Start off with sensible, frugal, considered choices and end up with the parts cannon giving it full blast. Nice job.

[@nousername2932]

I must say, as an IT tech that has degree's, your older videos were cringe but your new vids are amazing... gg man, you've evolved greatly.

[@GregSalazar]

I think it took me actually making it _through_ engineering school to finally realize how little I truly knew. I was an arrogant hot-head when I was younger. Still far from perfect OFC, but learning every day :-)

[@nousername2932]

@lazar well good job because this video was great. I've been watching your vids for a while but I am now finding myself watching the whole vid... that's something. I NEVER watch full IT vids except for Linus :). I actually started my career taking laptops, macbooks, imacs and pc's apart to diag them. Loved it but it's a dirty job. I cannot talk about what I had seen but let's just say the police were involved.

[@JustNel]

I AM LITERALLY GOING THROUGH THIS NOW! Ive tried everything... Lord bless EVGA they have been patient and so helpful replacing multiple gpus... I finally went to Microcenter today and replaced my old 1k w psu with a corsair 1k w... has not happened today during stress test or gaming

[@liberteus]

KZbin doesn't think i love your fix or flop videos and won't notify me :( Anyways, good thing i was able to find it because it's another great video! Thanks Greg!

[@drmcweazel]

Oh, hell yeah. I get home and there's a new Fix or Flop! Radical.

[@thefallengaming9556]

been busy feels good to sit back and watch some videos i hope you have been doing well

[@ArtisChronicles]

I did have a hard shut off issue at one point. Turned out the corsair H100i v2 failed which caused my cpu to get too hot to run. I've heard of motherboards not liking certain ram configurations, but it doesn't seem to apply to all motherboards. Some seem to take anything you throw at them, including severely mismatched capacities and speeds.

[@RedUnit10]

I recently did a be Quite! re-built, brand spanking new white Pure Base 500 Window, upgraded the CPU, the GPU, the RAM, but when I was assembling everything I put the fresh out of the box case on top of my bed upright, where it fell off when I turned around and smashed on the hard wood floor. Sadly, it bent a corner and now the rear panel no longer closes properly, even after I tried to fix it. But I live with my mistake, as it works just fine all the same.

[@jonmayer]

I once had a system like this. Guess the cheap 400W PSU couldn't handle the load. Didn't you change the RAM slots when you put it back together? Some motherboards are picky with RAM compatibility in all 4 slots.

[@TheMyKillClan]

I really can't stress how amazing this fix or flop is. he's making a living off helping his viewers! I know he makes other videos (i miss the pc cleaning videos) but this is becoming his bread and butter and it's amazing helping us is $ for him.

[@Olaf-Lingen2023]

Had an similiar problem once, and at the end it WAS an Powersupply-Problem but not in the way you may think. It was the FAN of the Powersupply, whom was not working so the Powersupply was overheating and shutting down. Luckily none other components other than the PSU was damaged and the new and better PSU just cost me around 35 Euro.

[@PGGMusic]

I have a question: why did you tear of the foil of the glas panel? Doesn't that increase the chance to damaging the glas panel in the the transport to the owner?

[@Kelekona_808]

I saw the Trident Royal dims in the earlier B-role before you talked about ram issues and I was like Whaaaaaaat? LOL Some big upgrades for this rig in terms of cooling and ram.

[@thymirusconfederatus]

When I built a friend his first gaming PC last year, the system would abruptly shut down within minutes of startup, and the issue was a defective DIMM slot. I just replaced the motherboard entirely. Shuffling around RAM is a decent starting point for troubleshooting these sorts of problems.

[@ChristopherYeeMon]

I remember in 2017, I bought that cooler's ancestor, the be quiet! DARK ROCK PRO 3. And mounting it was damn near impossible. Glad it's so much easier now

[@jasonstumbaugh1893]

Great video man! Also love the Yugioh cards in the background. Keep it up bro.

[@Deadeye176]

Had a similar issue with a PC I built. The CPU is a 7800X3D that was being cooled with a ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240. Was installing Windows and it had just shut down. Booted it back up and same thing happened. Checked BIOS and CPU temp was 100c. Felt the top tube and was extremely hot to the touch. Issue was with the cooler, replaced it and temps went down to 30c.

[@da_gecko16]

I had a very similar experience about a month or two ago. I had a 2x8gb kit of Corsair RAM and got a second kit with the same speed, CAS latency, etc. I kept getting BSODs and other stability issues so I tried to reinstall Windows. During the install process I kept getting corrupted files and other similar errors I had never seen before which was getting extremely frustrating. Eventually I pulled out the second RAM kit and the Windows install completed without an issue. I tested both kits separately and had no issue but when I paired them again I was getting the same problems. Apparently different kits of Corsair RAM don't particularly like to work with one another as I was told when I asked about it on the Corsair subreddit. I'm guessing there's a similar RAM compatibility issue with the two sets here.

[@DragonlordXV]

you should have tried the team group ram alone , i think there is a conflict with those hyundai ram kit .

[@spyplane3979]

I think there is conflict with some drivers in windows causing the problem . But you should be able to fix it in safe mode but u need to go to advanced startup to do this on boot hitting f8 to go into advanced and select safe mode boot arangement.

[@huntelaar6798]

Hey Greg, I had issues like this very similar with my PC. I haven't had time to fix it yet but I'll keep this video in mind when I start troubleshooting it again in the future. Also, Geaux Cajuns! @9:30 ;)