Gri​nch's ultimatum

[@dx1887]

Once again, as Christmas approaches, I find myself watching this again. This has become a yearly tradition of mine.

[@jasonrangel-g7m]

Real

[@jimbabwe3]

have we truly become monsters?

[@itylermartin]

Amen

[@coel8674]

It has become a yearly tradition between me, my brother, and my best friend to sit down on Christmas Eve and watch every single PilotRedSun video one after the other. …Our sanity is up for debate.

[@FSM135]

Same here brother. This damned video has been nestled in my brain for years and I'm beginning to think it'll never be dislodged.

[@SmileRYO]

My favorite part is how he IMMEDIATELY Grinches out. Dude gives it no thought.

[@sirchris6047]

Hey I noticed that you also watch Brian F Wanna touch tips?

[@brtbaggedmilk1963]

@@sirchris6047 💀

[@Snetzelsnetzalsnetzul]

Yea and then he immediately regrets it and starts writing if he has lost his hummanity, its so fucking funny

[@smallmailman3992]

@@Snetzelsnetzalsnetzul I don’t think so, he writes as if he really did lose his humanity. “Have I truly become a monster?” Reflects that, I guess, because he’s asking if being a grinch truly means he’s a monster.

[@yaboi7034]

He knows he will never be a sainte. Become grunch.

[@anamusingidiot2565]

Under appreciated detail of this is the wild inconsistency of the aspect ration, which I've never noticed before.

[@yopachi]

Aspect ratisnow 0:30

[@AceBattleStorm]

Damn i didn't notice that

[@vrabo3026]

Yeah it's all over the place. I thought it was an old 4:3 video until the aspect ratio started changing, and at the very end it goes full 16:9.

[@yossithe9031]

hmmm yummy taste aspect.ration good......hmm .yummy......

[@KingBee990]

Doctor Breen spitting facts

[@10n0]

Happy holidays PRS, don't be a grunch

[@chips_lol9537]

Nah i will be the grunch

[@spookhyskeleton]

Nah i will be the grunch

[@Da_ComputerMonster]

*(Grunch!)*

[@LeBabol]

Nah i will be the grunch

[@TimothyMark7]

nah I'd grunch

[@bocmaxima9721]

i cannot get enough of the line deliveries of "sainte" and "grunch"

[@bocmaxima9721]

Kakeru Satsuki this is pilotredsun's best work

[@bocmaxima9721]

Kakeru Satsuki and that's the tale of the christmas cretin

[@bocmaxima9721]

***** tis the season

[@tinybed]

it sounds like hank hill's voice to me lol -_- Glad u enjoy it

[@kilderok]

Oh holy shit, it does sound like Hank Hill! XD Now this video is even better

[@ZumbieGuy]

I’ve watched this video at least once a month for three fucking years why is it so addicting

[@Dullrig]

it's the music

[@usualdosage7287]

@@Dullrig yah it's strangely nostalgic

[@Slammatoro]

the music i promise it's the music i need the music alone from the video

[@thegreatestfartofalltime6448]

Hey me too

[@Moon-zc4ti]

Don’t forget the sainte and grunch

[@thechristmascretin7034]

People keep saying that watching this is a yearly tradition for them, man I barely go a whole week without rewatching this banger

[@Trevor6714]

The music do be pretty bangin tho

[@jerome2smokey]

drugs are grest

[@joenuts6805]

You are The Christmas Cretin after all.

[@cocohotheatclips8264]

I cant go a day without it

[@YoqDzewa]

It's literally one of the most important works of art in my life. That and New Normal by Jack Stauber

[@GnatWasJulian]

Dancing in public after being transformed into a monster, now that’s a statement which screams : “ Judge me as much as you like people, but you may not have the final claim over the fat of my soul” true artist…

[@Jalezen]

solidus

[@youseenednedisdead]

wicked could never

[@woag2098]

I will never be able to figure out why I get so melancholic whenever the grinch starts dancing

[@SoulSukkur]

Music is probably a big part of it. Or maybe that he's indulging in the social rejection. Those are you two choices, choose wisely. So what's it gonna be, huh, huh?

[@warmination7891]

@@SoulSukkur moosik? Or sosheeal redjeksion?

[@Qwertype315]

Eithrr He is trying to see whether he will be accepted for who he is, or he is a monster that ruins christmas by going out and dancing in front of people, weirding them out and gaining the label of cretin. Probably the former, but perceived as the latter

[@axis_tilted]

Something about the synths kicking in really jostles something loose in the soul

[@patrickfrost9405]

It's because he's Toby McGuire's Spider Man.

[@HIVEMINDxMusic]

I bet the guy who makes these looks like the most normal guy ever

[@BertranDeGato]

I checked his Tumblr. You’re right

[@matguimond92]

nope. Probably a greasey basement dweller or a neckbeard.

[@goonspoons7870]

@@matguimond92 rent free

[@matguimond92]

​@@goonspoons7870 only bums squat.

[@JamietheEmperor]

@@matguimond92 take a chill pill you punkass and get off youtube if this is what you waste your time with

[@irradiatedpacific]

the only bad part of this video is that i can never see it for the first time again and hit that indescribable feeling when he starts dancing

[@MoRoKeiFrOd]

Exactly 😔

[@zoot.589]

Damn I just went through this and now the feeling is fleeting and I don't want to let go but I know I have to :(

[@julianlocileno2968]

@@toolittletoolate Vinny's Ultimatum did it for me as well

[@TreeFrogOnATree]

Greasy

[@NuclearDuckie02]

Go through it frame by frame (< and > on the keyboard) and you'll get it back

[@mxjuno1998]

glad to see im not the only one who watches this every christmas.

[@fruitsn4ck]

Lol ofc not, by now I'm sure it's tradition to a good number of ppl :)

[@iamapersonwithachannelwith4759]

Strange tradition tf

[@mxjuno1998]

@@fruitsn4ck that makes me very happy!!!!

[@helloolleh_dis]

I watch it like 100 times every day

[@dubblejumpchump]

Doesnt even need to be Christmas for me honestly. The music goes hard and the animation os captivating, i found the video on mushrooms originally and it made me geek so hard

[@mono.isgtds]

This song actually is a banger i like how more people have started replying to this because it’s christmas.

[@jjhassy]

when the drums come in it hits

[@TheNPCKiller132]

Anyone know if pilotredsun put the full soundtrack up yet

[@tristanwh9466]

@@TheNPCKiller132 No but there are some reconstructions of it

[@tristanwh9466]

@@TheNPCKiller132 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmfGgIl3asSVbqs

[@roguerayquaza2547]

I especially like 0:41 And 1:31

[@futk8751]

A man coming to terms with himself. He knows what a good person is supposed to be and he doesn't feel he fits the mold. He sits alone on Christmas with the TV he broke in front of him and considers his options. Should he aspire to be a saint or resign himself to be a grinch? Embracing despair he publicly dances; a cry for help heard by many but answered by none.

[@smokeyjoe291]

Thoroughly enjoyable

[@zarathustra1430]

Relatable

[@davebryan1890]

It do sometimes be like that

[@Alejandrocj12]

Fuck yes

[@futk8751]

@AsukaWorshiper69 I love this interpretation. Like he finally allowed himself some peace. Maybe he is a grinch but so what. It's better than living a lie.

[@2782Jack]

after viewing it a few times I keep coming to the same conclusion. his flaws like his anger make him choose grinch because he knows he's not good enough to become a saint but even after becoming a monster he still retains his humanity. when he chooses to dance in spite of how other people see him, he's free. That's why it's so profound when it ends with the tale of the christmas cretin. he's only a cretin because of how he refuses to give in to despair. and when other people look at him with disdain, they become grinches themselves. Amazing what someone can do with a 2 minute animation.

[@sebman6031]

I've always thought that he never actually choose. Just as we rarely get to choose how people would Judge us

[@danielcarroll6303]

or maybe the curtains are just blue

[@sebman6031]

@@danielcarroll6303 are you proud of your feeble minded existence?

[@TheBiggOne-w5b]

Grunch

[@mattgroening8872]

Genius

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

I love how many different interpretations you can find in the comments. That's how you know it's great art: it speaks to everyone differently. Some find it profound, some find it funny, all find it memorable.

[@pr0v0cative4pple]

I love the look of challenge on Santa's face right before he launches into the iconic, "ALRIGHT, BUDDY, YOU GOT TWO OPTIONS HERE."

[@justaguyonyoutube4592]

“YOU CAN BE A SAINT OR YOU CAN BE A GRINCH. THOSE ARE YOUR TWO CHOICES. CHOOSE WISELY. SO WHAT’S IT GONNA BE? HUH? HUH??? A SAINT? ( _sainte_ ) OR A GRINCH? ( _grunch_ )” **Slowly fades away**

[@ion_force]

"look of challenge" is a good way to put it. The determination.

[@blindingblade]

a look of smug wisdom, knowing exactly what the man will inevitably find himself choosing

[@Sr38890xx]

the way his eyes and lips pulsate just oozes confidence

[@spamtneo]

GIGACHAD 🎅

[@rascle1939]

“Have I truly become a monster” That hit hard bro

[@stickafingerinit4381]

Sometimes I feel like I'm just slowly drifting myself to my own shitty demise. But maybe I deserve it anyway, idk

[@theskiesaredark]

@@stickafingerinit4381 What's the opposite of that?

[@poisenbery]

@@stickafingerinit4381 but even the Grinch was able to find something: Dancing You just haven't found your thing yet. It takes time, don't give up.

[@ItzCortana]

@@poisenbery that's true

[@CHIPtsune]

Too hard

[@thedevilgoose2482]

There are four good Grinch stories. 1. The Original Book 2. The Original Special 3. Jim Carrey's Movie 4. This

[@hudmaceachern]

There are one bad Grinch stories. 1. *unfunny minion facebook mom men company* 's Movie

[@TheKingOfNachosTM]

The four horsemen of the apocalypse

[@yuhyuh1471]

I disgusting

[@peepeepoopoovdbhxvbcc6683]

Y’all are talking like the Illumination movie was the worst grinch movie, just count your blessings that you didn’t see the snl grinch skit last year 🤮

[@curt7777777777]

Halloween is Grinch Night explores a much darker and more sinister Grinch, I think it deserves an honourable mention

[@ekmad]

I genuinely wish I had someone to share this with at Christmas who would enjoy it as much as I do.

[@user-up1op3kz9q]

The way he dances for himself without a real audience has always cut deep for me. He’s become something that he believes is monstrous and unacceptable, but he’s still finding the motivation to put himself out there and express himself so confidently, to the point of not even caring if people like it.

[@ivan55599]

Like... Joker dancing on stairs?

[@gaetanociccolella1818]

@@ivan55599 exactly

[@mrhidie4529]

You’re insane

[@tyrmagistable]

We were always meant to like the grinch's confidence and cleverness, to identify and empathize with him. We've been the grinches the whole time, it is up to us how our hearts grow.

[@ShinerCCC]

In the original animation, the Grinch still utters a lie of mercy to a child and decides to return the Whos' gifts at the climax of the story. He exhibits redeemable qualities. This version embraces his Grinchness fully and that's why the dance is so shocking and cathartic for us to witness.

[@teclinsoro4523]

something about the music seems to elevate it beyond the level of a shitpost and into surrealist art instead

[@diffsnicker6570]

Trust me you'll realize this is much more than a shitpost once you watch it 50 more times

[@greengreninja5725]

@@diffsnicker6570 Straight facts.

[@ictogon]

@@diffsnicker6570 I am reanimating it right now and I definitely have watched it more than 50 times

[@carelesscamel]

@@ictogon this is the first time in forever I've seen a comment like this that promised a specific thing relating to a video,..that ACTUALLY DID WHAT WAS SAID. Nice job btw.

[@ictogon]

@@carelesscamel What about the rush e guy

[@maxw799]

The idea of being presented with a choice and choosing the "wrong" option is an incredibly powerful message.

[@John_Smith_Dumfugg]

Have I truly become a monster?

[@8-thisboy911]

i think its better to think of it as it being neither a good or bad choice

[@TheDude8008]

I mean, what responsibilities does being a Saint bring? Is it like chosing between being a Jedi or a Sith?

[@janevane420k]

Ive thought a lot about this video and im still wondering why he chose to be a grinch, even though he tries to redeem himself later

[@8-thisboy911]

@@janevane420k he sought inner enlightenment but ended up regretting it

[@Sareza.]

The dance evoked a myriad of indescribable emotions, I truly felt that.

[@vmsh9810]

I watch this video every christmas as a tradition, and trust me, it has really changed me as a person.

[@blomqf]

Same tbh

[@BiggRich95]

Same

[@MooImABunny]

*as a grunch

[@SirNippletonMcSugarteets]

Has it changed you in a good way, or a bad way?

[@Awpcs]

hehehe yup ok as a G R U N C H way

[@christianrowe8934]

Every year. It is tradition.

[@corenlavolpe6143]

Damn right.

[@marsted2]

tis the reasons for the season

[@roguerayquaza2547]

*SAINTE OR A GRUNCH?*

[@jitterrypokery1526]

Yes, it is

[@joko49perez]

666 likes

[@sachumo]

Christmas wouldn't feel right if it wasn't for pilot red sun

[@garfieldandtanksyoutubecha6232]

sachumo agreed

[@MLGRACCOON]

sachumo Ayy look who I found

[@krakuf5239]

Oh boy its yoy

[@mutantmeerkat2304]

Where is this year's...

[@just-nat]

MutantMeerkat in our hearts

[@AndTheStoryGoes]

I come back to this every now and then, whether it be Christmas or searching for some absurd inspiration. You, sir, have made a timeless piece.

[@eph177]

That little whistle that starts playing at 1:31 is the cherry on top

[@lancelowery5387]

EPH it really ties the room together

[@getupoffyourgoo8045]

Recorder

[@ArtianSetS]

Sounds more like a phone dial sound to me

[@B0RGUS]

Neat tech, isnt it?

[@Spaceman68ok]

Ethan Ansell this scene is too action packed to notice it, he deserves some slack

[@makobell1702]

i am literally begging you to release the full track

[@ffzzyyzzyy]

I KEEP COMING BACK I CAN'T HELP IT AAAAA WHERE IS PILOTREDSUN EP2

[@reackizback]

love this song too

[@whambamduel]

I just listen to a loop of the voices and sfx poorly edited out and it works.

[@john1644]

@@whambamduel now you don't have to guys kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGGUh5-cqdCkj5o

[@diego5079]

@@john1644 thank you so much

[@reckydaguy2432]

This video came out 10 months ago but it feels like it's been around since the dawn of time.

[@toptenhottestbobduncanmome5495]

ReckyDaGuy what is de song name my bruda

[@theoneandonlyspook1312]

ReckyDaGuy wha whaTttttttt

[@doneandover1357]

your comment's has been around since the dawn of time

[@navazen5416]

It’s not the video that’s been since the dawn of time, it’s the question itself. Are we to hide our true nature to become an angle to satisfy those who see us as monsters, or are we to become comfortable with ourselves, and accept our flaws that others may not see as acceptable. The movement of the man shows his comfort in his dance, how he does not desire to be changed. It’s truly, a tantalizing conundrum.

[@KitVDS]

i mean shit now it is

[@kuyashiix]

Have I truly become a monster? I ask myself that question everyday.

[@Evan-gq9lu]

Man: hits tv Man:becomes grinch Grinch: hits the Quan Grinch: becomes legend

[@swiftytaco8080]

_And that's the tale of the Christmas Cretin_

[@xrippedgirljeansx9262]

God: creates dinosaurs God: destroys dinosaurs God: creates Man Man: destroys God Man: creates dinosaurs Dinosaurs: eat Man Woman: inherits the earth

[@Crigence]

He was just trying to mine his TV Dumb grass should've used an iron pickaxe

[@theconiferoust9598]

@@xrippedgirljeansx9262 Hold on to your butts.

[@shill2920]

@@xrippedgirljeansx9262 oooh boy

[@Housesider]

A year later and the massive reverb when he says *W H A T* still gets me every time.

[@Jackvonblood]

*W h a t*

[@Flesh_Wizard]

*w h a t*

[@Kexiled]

It's been over 6 years, does it still get you every time?

[@CocaineComeDown]

W H A T ​

[@Langtree]

this is genuinely one of my favorite videos, it's fun seeing how many people come to comment every December

[@bituin5908]

It’s strangely nostalgic everytime I play it

[@jasonrangel-g7m]

It's is currently December lmao

[@elcuy3544]

Yup

[@Matt-sjs]

Another christmas down, cant wait till next year to listen to this again. My christmas tradition

[@Lexelai]

I still get fired up when grinch starts dancing in his leather jacket

[@spencerthegarfieldfanboy]

*christmas cretin

[@Flesh_Wizard]

Grinch knows how to boogie

[@skullerton9858]

*drifter OOOOOOOHed to that*

[@EluTran]

IT'S THAT DAY ONCE AGAIN, EVERYONE. THE BEST WAY TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS!

[@donaldthe4th817]

Wait are you Elu Undertale?

[@slimetime5666]

seeing that greninja on christmas got me feelin emotional

[@strebicux6174]

This has the most likes of most comments in new because he's verified

[@BrightofNight]

Why did you send me here

[@angelotrevisani860]

Thank you Elu Tran, Very Cool!

[@fuckoff9182]

I love everything about this video, the music, animation, the line deliveries of "sainte" and "grunch", swear to God this channel is perfect in every way.

[@piluex2]

Dickhead Danny I love the music on this too, it fits the video really good, it gives it quite a surreal feeling

[@KaliBella]

yeah this video is awesome

[@AutisticShyGuy]

600th like!

[@Abbafan14]

“Alright buddy here are your choices” I live idk why

[@ERROR-CitationNeeded]

This is the perfect mixture of cute, horrifying and meaningful all at the same time; I felt a story about a lost man who, when at his wits end, encounters an entity from beyond and is faced (seemingly once again) with an ultimatum of societal expectations. Defeated, he accepts who he is inside and instead of living in misery any longer chooses to live his best life.

[@gavindalf2547]

I wish I danced as good as the grunch

[@vanessamarsen7911]

Gavin McLaurin #PopplioPosse don't we all?

[@D0NU75]

this chrismas i wanted to be a grunch, all i have become was a christmas cretin

[@yeet-gy6fu]

Gavin McLaurin #PopplioPosse same

[@vol1392]

don't be a sainte, only grunch possess the moves

[@Glace1221]

Gavin McLaurin #PopplioPosse holy shit, are we just gonna ignore how Santa came out of that lit fireplace, the guy really is Satan

[@cupofjoe3x]

Fun fact this is actually the video Joker was based off of

[@obeseperson]

What

[@Zillasucks]

It’s Claus!

[@max3784]

What

[@Plantify9339]

It's Claus!

[@Krimnorr]

It's Claus!

[@inendlesspain4724]

This guy didn't "turn" into a Grinch, he already "was" a Grinch, it's just that as soon as Santa put the idea into his head that people like him are like the Grinch, he started to see himself as one.

[@fadinglightsarefading]

Spot on

[@Flesh_Wizard]

*grunch

[@Prengle]

And he embraced it in the end, with the people noticing him for being unabashadly himself

[@themondei746]

You are right as hell pal

[@sabotabo7476]

i think this is actually the correct interpretation

[@stineluniverse9542]

I love the fact that this animation is 7 years old, yet sparks such deep philosophical feelings 6 years, 2 years, and even just 8 months ago. I just come back for the music, personally, and I can’t recall just why I have this music (image?) mixed with SM64

[@kj-zx1zp]

when the grinch started dancing, I felt like i was watching something I've never seen but at the same time something I've watched for an eternity

[@orbismworldbuilding8428]

This right here

[@Köennig]

When the despised character ascends to his truly potential and people start seeing value in him. lol

[@neszero]

seriously, without exaggeration, same. i wonder why that is

[@TheQweerdeer00]

Its a mix of the song and the odd movements that gives a sense of nostalgia. It reminds us of dreams because dreams are weird and indescribable like the music and the movement

[@EluTran]

It’s that time of year once again! The best yearly tradition of all, watching this timeless classic! Have you been a sainte or a grunch?

[@glaze1998]

It’s a very important philosophical choice that shows us what we are truly like

[@dontworry9544]

Grunch

[@adversariespurified]

Sainte

[@frenchyproductions9692]

Gods have mercy on my soul, for I have become the grink

[@vikperson1058]

I've been a grunch

[@GojiraHulisz]

"Have I truly become a monster?" I don't know why but that line goes so hard for no reason

[@mattgroening8872]

The whole video idea goes hard for no reason. A grumpy man who has the power to change who he is or unlock the personification of his true self. Instead of hiding in fear and misery, he goes out and shows off his true self, disgusting everyone but finding true happiness.

[@Kingmakerrr1337]

@@Losing-it.broski it’s just a video

[@Losing-it.]

@@Kingmakerrr1337 leave me alone

[@Losing-it.]

@@Kingmakerrr1337 Lalalalalalalla i dont care.

[@Kingmakerrr1337]

@@Losing-it. I'm coming to get you

[@tomasmax5616]

Ahh, my favorite Christmas animation. Once again blessings my eyes.

[@no-browentertainment9720]

Despite the Christmas theme, this video just embodies January for me. There’s something about the hollow melancholy of the music and the melted snow on the ground that reminds me of what comes after. This video is what comes after Christmas: nothing but snow and ice, and a memory of warmth. Pilotredsun is a visionary

[@Kingmakerrr1337]

Bro how high were you when you wrote this?

[@jayminyoel7911]

Where I live, January is when the snows starts.

[@sussy6905]

@@Kingmakerrr1337 basic mfs when someone tries to analyze a weird youtube video:

[@hustlened7494]

Beautifully said

[@Kingmakerrr1337]

@@sussy6905 I stand by my question

[@markwiedeman7271]

The music in this is kind of amazing

[@aFinalNote]

yea i need an extended version

[@axlrose7668]

Its what Michael McDonald should do

[@themetalmario77]

i think it's on his soundcloud

[@pettysaltblock9358]

@@themetalmario77 I didn't even know he HAD a SoundCloud. If I could I'd hug you rn

[@Nastuf]

@@themetalmario77 I haven't found it on there EDIT:I hunted it down soundcloud.com/melvinthemenace-high_noon/pilotredsun-grinchs-ultimatum

[@juliamelia36]

this video has an addictive nature, i have been watching is atleast once a month for the past 2 years and it has in no way gotten stale or boring

[@stahinjakrackovic2087]

Im watching this every day for 2 months

[@cheekybananaboy3361]

@@stahinjakrackovic2087 jesus

[@stahinjakrackovic2087]

@@cheekybananaboy3361 now its every other day

[@cosmiceclipse3142]

@@stahinjakrackovic2087 Don't let the flame die out

[@stahinjakrackovic2087]

@@cosmiceclipse3142 thaks for reminding me on this masterpiece

[@Solustos]

it's about that time of the year boys, time to watch and listen to this banger every week

[@brodiesmith7239]

it's a tradition now

[@Solustos]

@@brodiesmith7239 true brother

[@Firebird2078]

"you either die a sainte, or live long enough to become the grunch" is my senior quote

[@leonderprofie123]

So what's it gonna be _H U H_ _H U H_

[@camryn156]

ᵃ ˢʰⁱᵗ ⁱⁿ ᵐʸ ᶜᵃᵗˢ ˡⁱᵗᵗᵉʳᵇᵒˣ ʷʰᵉⁿ ⁱ ʷᵃˢ ˢᵉᵛᵉⁿ

[@Jequetepeq]

hеlр мом iм sсаrеd

[@gangsterkhalid2964]

Grunch

[@riesenflugzeug]

A Saint? (sainte) Or a grinch? (grunch) **claus fades away**

[@shadysam7161]

@@camryn156 *NoOoOooo!! AAAAA*

[@ineedabetterpfp2485]

I think this might be up there as one of PilotRedSun’s best videos. Definitely Top Three. In my opinion, it might even be his magnum opus.

[@averystrangeguy4378]

Honestly it's just *slightly* under Bolus for me. Just barely

[@moltenn7]

Easy #1

[@igotashake]

Undoubtably his masterpiece, honestly cannot find anything I dont like about it

[@jukmifggugghposer]

For me this is just barely beaten by Casino Night. That video just has such a surreal magic that nothing else he’s made can match.

[@licht4808]

Garfielf is better

[@articasterisk]

welcome back one and all i see we have all made the pilgrimage once again back to this great video hope you guys enjoy your christmases very well this year

[@JohnFuklaw]

The video shows that there are never genuinely two choices. Like with many times in our own lives, the protagonist is presented a false binary, and the claus, a false prophet, suggests to him that he could only be a sainte, or a grunch. Having the role of the grinch forced upon him he does not accept it as it is and instead pursues his own path, one of dance, of entertainment. He is human, and therefore radically free, capable of making any decision at any time. That is the moral I take from this, and it is one that is truly meaningful to me.

[@outerstreets1]

John Fuklaw Jesus that's deep aye

[@pizzapr2001]

However, he was given the option of choosing between sainte and grunch. If the protagonist’s intentions were truly benevolent, why would he choose grunch over sainte in the first place?

[@crustman5982]

There’s also a theme of self loathing in that he breaks his own tv and questions if being grunch is really that bad. He attempts to prove it wrong with a harmless activity by dancing but he only delves further into his self loathing by continuing to let others decide his worth since the townsfolk judge him harshly when he leaves the house and dances. But he’s also taken a step away from the self loathing by embraceing his true self and dancing anyway.

[@daugh8587]

The choice of being a sainte or a grunch is merely an illusion cast by the fact that people sometimes only see two different sides with no in-between. As if hot and cold exists but warm does not. This is why he asks himself "have I truly become a monster?" when in reality not all of his actions define him as a grunch. The way he thinks and the choices he made make him a mix of both a sainte and a grunch which is unique to him as a result of his actions and experiences. This leaves him in a state of denial, which takes him to the plaza to dance, trying to find where he fits in society. Trying to find others like him that share the same flaws, ideas, or commonalities. Not perfect like a sainte, and not evil like a grunch, he writes his own story through the choices he makes.

[@salt.6999]

ryan u there

[@hiphyro]

i cant explain how this somehow immaculately captures the feeling of christmas. its like... some weird period of the year where both morale (sheer happiness due to the holidays) and the environment (snow/cold) change, making things feel a little ethereal n stuff and this video perfectly captures that ethereal vibe. the song is just such a banger too in some weird way. genuinely one of my favorite videos on the internet

[@whatevernamegoeshere3644]

The song is really weird honestly but oddly fitting. It sounds like a song in a late 90s game on a china town level that you always hated but it's a banger

[@stopthrm]

@@whatevernamegoeshere3644 I swear I've heard the root of this song somewhere before in a game

[@asherroodcreel640]

Or you have a shit family full of troubled and sad people who not only will never do anything about their own problems but bring out the worst in you themselves

[@Boogaloob]

@@stopthrm I feel like this sounds similar to one of the songs in an earlier pokemon game

[@stopthrm]

@@Boogaloob that's originally what I thought. Something from gen 1 or gen 2...

[@kuriboshoes9639]

I think that what people are missing here is that this story is about more than choosing the wrong option. I think that Grinch’s immediate transformation and later questioning of his “choice” shows that he never really made a choice at all. He was just an inherently sour person, and society, as represented by Claus, labeled him as such and put the idea in his head that if he’s not an acceptable saint, then he is just a Grinch. A monster. However, Grinch defies this idea soon after the choice is made for him. He asks himself if he is truly a monster, and even goes out and expresses himself in a harmless way in an attempt to show people that while he is no saint, The Grinch is not truly a monster either. The sad part is that despite these efforts to prove his ideas of self-identity, society still labels him as the Christmas Cretin, ending our story on an unfortunate note. Revision: Grinch’s Ultimatum is the prequel to Shrek

[@aguythatexists8318]

Yo Socrates it’s a Pilotredsun animation

[@_bleck]

@@aguythatexists8318 LOL

[@mcbaws21]

thank you for your analysis

[@hahaweedlol4933]

This is absolutely so lgbt

[@foxdiemmxx]

@@hahaweedlol4933 Heeyyyy thhatss prreetty gaay

[@dt9827]

My best friend broke my heart and this snapped me out of my depression, thank you for the thing I just watched

[@sicksabre]

this shit makes me feel so melancholic like when you falling into a depression nap and when you open your eyes again 6 hours have passed and its too late for dinner now

[@CrabmanReturns]

Way too descriptive

[@dunkadumma4619]

I've been doing this alot these past few months, just get sad and tired.

[@Sshynx]

Jesus this is too accurate

[@Gekumatz]

Real

[@jreverie7018]

I’m in my last month of my arts bachelors and I have to say, these videos are some of the best displays of art I’ve ever seen. I’m not actually trolling. They are sheer proof that the quality of work in an animation can be as rough as possible, but still as a piece be so perfect. Great story telling in such an insanely unique way. Don’t change dude!

[@aztro.99]

i feel this exactly

[@islandboy9381]

So what did you learn at 【ＡＲＴ　ＳＣＨＯＯＬ】?

[@shinyrayquazaaah]

@@islandboy9381 art

[@orangepiiko2946]

Island Boy art

[@royedking]

Island Boy WHAT I LEARNED AT BOAT......ART SCHOOL IS!!!!

[@SeanVito]

This is art. The whole video is a unique vibe. When grunch danced to that idm with flute i was like "damn straight. You do your thing. Life is fleeting."

[@Chezbungus]

Grunch

[@SeanVito]

@@Chezbungus yes

[@squishysquidward2507]

Grunch

[@Flesh_Wizard]

Grunch

[@sorae42]

merry christmas 2024, this mark my 4th year of watching this annually. life’s been changing a lot for me, so what’s about yours?

[@grosezero8834]

have i truly become a monster?

[@gipgip01]

By watching this video? Maybe...

[@wumpus3719]

grose zero I am the beast i worship?

[@iamthespy9808]

Being a Grinch might seem like the “bad” one out of the two choices. We mustn’t forget that afterall, the Grinch’s heart grew three sizes after truly accepting himself. To be a saint is to be a perfect yet artificial being, a pure person, however, becoming one is a completely inhuman task, for nobody is perfect. The Grinch is a truly pure person unlike a saint, for The Grinch has had to deal with inner demons, managing to go past his self-loathing ways and accepting others and most importantly, himself, and in the process, became much more than just a “Grinch”.

[@jaredolives1578]

*Grunch

[@aroulos]

What is better: To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? -Paarthurnax

[@burritowyrm6530]

inspired my ass so hard you have no idea thank you

[@brooket8068]

When the grunch asks "have I truly become a monster?" It would seem at first that he is starting to realize that he is a monster. However, I would venture to say that he is starting to realize that he is *not* a monster. Clause said to "choose wisely" and the wise choice would seem at first to be sainte, but maybe choosing grunch does NOT make you a monster. Perhaps choosing sainte would have freed the man from his demons, but instead he chooses grunch and channels his frustration and passion into writing and dancing. The question "have I truly become a monster?" Lets us into the mind of a proud grunch; a grunch who questions the validity of his "inherit" bad nature; a grunch who dares to challenge the ultamatim given to him by a strange, detatched, unmerciful, being. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[@raisinbran4989]

This is a joke video but I get it you are 14 and very deep for your age

[@KallyNui]

I really hope this was like a project for school. Imagine this just being blasted on the projector for like a film class.

[@AppleSmashers509]

Lmao legendary

[@mrlevinielsen]

I actually used quakers oats for my health presentation on crystal meth.

[@jackmeup]

@Helfo Pollo he said FL studio a while back but i dont know if he changed

[@londalton846]

we can all be saintes if we try.

[@CactusCanon]

Not gonna lie, those moves were fire

[@AquaticNeptune]

ITS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR AGAIN

[@ChristopherWeaver1]

WHAT TIME IS IT I CANT HEEEEEEEAR YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU

[@bunkteriamonster7830]

AquaticNeptune hopefully we get a sequel to this masterpiece

[@itsverydankytfortniteapexl5588]

Cold- and AH I already know what your gonna say. Jaiden, you live in Arizona , you don’t get to experience the cold... and you’re right. Other people have to shovel 3 feet of snow off their car to get to work, and all we have to do is put on a jacket, and... not turn the AC on. (This was from JaidenAnimation’s video

[@satan2583]

padoru padoru

[@victorfelixcpsr]

Almost there

[@sainteorgrunch5474]

Alright buddy, you have two options here. You can be a saint, or you can be a grinch. Those are your two choices. Choose wisely. So what's it gonna be, huh, HUH?? A saint (SAINTE) or a grinch (GRUNCH)?

[@kyannajk1089]

SAINTE OR GRUNCH I CANT BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY DID THIS😂😂😂😂

[@garfieldandtanksyoutubecha6232]

SAINTE OR GRUNCH probably sainte

[@Cpt_Natalia]

SAINTE

[@Pleasestoptalkingthanks]

The question is rhetorical, as it’s apparent before Claus even comes down the chimney that the man has always been a Grunch, and only upon hallucinating Santa gave him the choice, realizes his transformation. His attempts to go out and convince the community -who is already numb to his presence - that he isn’t a monster, fall flat, and we’re forced to look into ourselves and see if we’ve already made the choice between grunch and sainte ourselves.

[@andrewantretter4279]

SAINTE OR GRUNCH why do I continue to watch this

[@mikey100swim]

Idk why but pilotredsun’s videos feel so cozy esp on a cold winter day inside

[@monotoneheadphones]

Imagine Santa arriving in your house and all you do is look at him angrily and say “what?”

[@casscroute8706]

I find this moment pretty funny

[@kerryoo2]

He's a monster alright. A monster on the dance floor

[@10n0]

Merry Christmas PRS, thanks for being a sainte

[@RexoBoi]

ya forgotti to pinnit

[@crushing3614]

money going to the right places

[@Krispy-Klips]

there's just something so comforting about "It's Claus!!!!"

[@DetrimentalDerivation]

Reminds me of the original Shin Megami Tensei; the protagonist's dog, Pascal, has a dedicated room and melancholic theme, but with only the description "Pascal the dog is here."

[@gre8000]

​@@DetrimentalDerivation shut up weab

[@АртемЛысенко-щ5ф]

@@DetrimentalDerivation petah the doug is here

[@sikkableeat5614]

​@@АртемЛысенко-щ5фPetah our dog "Brian Griffin" is dead!!

[@somethingtheoneandonly]

mother 3

[@DANKKrish]

I really really want to hear the song on it's own. This is brilliant.

[@TommyTom21]

DANKKrish kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2LQhpx3n62td6s

[@DANKKrish]

snowy day is a different track

[@user-sj8od7lr6q]

yeah it still isn't up, what the hell?

[@user-sj8od7lr6q]

im listening to this album right now to check if it's in there kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2LQhpx3n62td6s if it's not in there, then it's not up anywhere probably. I've listened to everything he had up other than this album

[@Soulraven2735]

I've done my waiting. 12 long years!

[@GremlinJohnny]

I consider this to be your greatest work, pilotredsun. this isn't just a joke- this is actually the work of a genius. i've never seen anything that can convey the emotions and aesthetics that this does, and you can feel the deeper meaning behind it. i showed this video to my dad and he loves it so much. it's mesmerizing.

[@succulentravioli954]

All of his works are hilarious

[@GremlinJohnny]

@@succulentravioli954 I agree, but this one is my favorite.

[@ker0356]

same

[@nicreven]

"When an animation contains an error, it distracts the viewer. Thus when an animation is composed of errors, it mesmerizes the viewer." - Pilotredsun

[@B463L]

@@nicreven is that an actual quote? Badass.

[@SparrettCrow]

I love how every December this gem pops up in my feed

[@lilguy7491]

1:43 - "Femto wishes you an innovative 2016" Griffith defected from sainte to grunch.

[@drayc290]

Makes sense

[@ToniVR]

ah nice i see im not the only one that spotted that berserk hint

[@DicFlair]

Santa confirmed to be the idea of evil.

[@LolaTheGardevoir]

Nice Space Funeral PFP

[@jehovahs_thiccness.]

@@ToniVR Griffith had sex with a man, so obviously belongs in hell

[@raizel_z]

I've lost count how many times I have watched. This is the highest art humanity has created. The indescribable emotions it makes me feel are truly unique.

[@ThJakester897]

Oh, my goodness. I thought your other videos were incredible, but this one redefines video content as a whole.

[@shrub8644]

This is real art. AI could never create this.

[@hecklinghecker4971]

This exactly, this is why people who aren't "artists" should just make whatever they want and can, because you get genuine art like this

[@chadthundercock4806]

Yeah it could. Why do people have meltdowns over ai all the time

[@zombieseatflesh7]

@@chadthundercock4806 current ai technology can only learn from existing artworks. It is incapable of being original. There is no alternate reality where this was created completely by AI, unless it already knew about pilot red sun

[@chadthundercock4806]

@@zombieseatflesh7 It combines unoriginal inputs into a new original output

[@Rodrigo-kq3js]

​@@zombieseatflesh7i mean, thats also how people work. they create based on experience and previous art. the very first rural cavemen paintings were literally just drawings of animals

[@JoeMama-ll6bn]

Some people are trying to figure out the premise of this, I’m trying to figure out why the grinch looks like me at the end

[@khornate01thedestroyerofis11]

Vinegar give that grunch a buzzcut and he is just a hatless green version of myself.

[@JoeMama-ll6bn]

Gremblo

[@khornate01thedestroyerofis11]

Vinegar unfortunately, I don't actually look like gremblo

[@JoeMama-ll6bn]

Khornate01 The Destroyer of Istvaan well shit

[@iagreebut6813]

That's the tale of Christmas cretin

[@slowginfizz]

I like how he stays true to his dancing when everyone is staring he doesn’t care he has transcended the need for approval

[@chillbrobraggins383]

I have a strong emotional connection with this song and I do not know why

[@shogunraid4302]

No seriously same! It genuinely, for some reason I could never possibly analyse, adds a layer of narrative, and contextualises what is on screen, even though for the most part it doesn't make sense; it doesn't have to. The only "sense" you need is to feel, and with this music, you can.

[@jehovahs_thiccness.]

@@shogunraid4302 tbh your a Christmas cretin.....sorry....but so am I so 😂

[@nickbroxton4246]

Me either

[@rustedknight_]

I could say the same about the entire video. Feels like, to me, it represents aspects of my own life.

[@ncrranger6327]

I blame it on things I experiencied early on like old school Runescape

[@Elquenoseconectacasinunca]

Happy *Grunch* day to everybody Getting some ultimatum of this

[@typ0z]

I think PilotRedSun does an excellent job of posing an interesting philosophical question to us. We are quick to categorize people into saintes and grunches, and while this is a quick method of organizing people in to tidy groups of who conforms to our worldview and who doesn’t, we ultimately do ourselves and those we judge a disservice. We never learn about the complexity of a person. In turn, they become the thing society has told them to become. We see this when the grunch in the story questions if he has truly become a monster. However, in the end, he embraces his grunchhood, and dances amongst the rest of us, because through his embrace of his own inner darkness, he has learned that we are not simply grunch nor sainte... however we are all both grunch and sainte. Each and every one of us.

[@zacharytracy3797]

The most powerful pieces of philosophy xan sometomes be found in the most unexpected of places.

[@devonlucero2113]

¡SHut up neRD¡

[@pearce01-37]

i mean ok

[@svnyea7132]

What the absolute fuck

[@RedSteez247]

I too am in 9th grade English pre-AP

[@tjw8t1]

Why are all of Pilot's videos weird but make me feel comfortable and at ease? I always end up watching them 5 times in a row the first time

[@nicholashall5258]

I feel like there's a symbolic layer to this that I can never hope to understand

[@cheekybananaboy3361]

are you saying you don't want to understand it?

[@adahnyemeth6317]

@@cheekybananaboy3361 he's sainte.

[@lucashersh3553]

It's about how religion or maybe just society makes us label ourselves as good or evil based on our behavior, and because of this, we live our lives with the fear of being seen as different by other and thus judged as a bad person. When he decides to become full Grinch he has chosen to willingly be seen as an outcast by society, but for him this is a burden that has been lifted, as he is now able to act free and be real in a system that does not welcome spontaneity.

[@mareksicinski3726]

there is nome

[@shadysam7161]

@@lucashersh3553 or its just a dumb video about a guy turning into a dr seuss character and dancing for like 10 seconds.

[@OGPepsiman]

Just like with Chris Columbus 1492, I come once again to rewatch this classic of Christmas. Merry Christmas, and have a Happy New Year -Greetings from Bangladesh- have a Happy Anime Easter 🗣️

[@sabotabo7476]

most people seem to think his dance is the grinch resigning himself to his fate, or a cry for help, or him trying to fight his label, but i submit an alternate interpretation: his dance is him embracing his identity, in a sort of nihilistic acceptance that if he can’t do anything to change his fate, then he won’t let it bring him down. he's asked himself the question "have i truly become a monster?" and come to the conclusion: "i am what i choose to be."

[@benluciano4980]

I second this. Just because society sees him as a monster doesn't me he has to be one.

[@goodmorning7358]

god that drum fill at 1:37 is just life giving

[@rayres1074]

The whole thing by about 1:07 is absolutely wild.

[@goodmorning7358]

agreed, i love this shit@@rayres1074

[@sabotabo7476]

the part after the fill makes me hum along to it and i almost cry. i don't know how he makes these beats so powerfully melancholy

[@goodmorning7358]

that's exactly how i would describe his beats. melancholic, but also nostalgic in a haunting way@@sabotabo7476

[@SuperJonny400]

The fact that this guy has animation skill but refuses to use it makes this a true masterpiece

[@rurogliding5317]

I would love to se this guys art in a museum someday

[@mareksicinski3726]

he uses it in a different way

[@vapordreams983]

This is animation skill

[@shill2920]

"When an animation contains an error, it distracts the viewer. Thus when an animation is composed of errors, it mesmerizes the viewer." - Pilotredsun

[@dizzylimme]

Pablo Picasso was an excellent realistic artist when he was younger. He could have drawn that way if he wanted to.

[@RoseJetExhaust]

it ain't Christmas season until this hits my eyeballs

[@chimps-h3v]

“Have I truly become a monster?” I felt that.

[@thechristmascretin7034]

I felt that too

[@cambac-pro]

@@thechristmascretin7034 he felt that too

[@cheekybananaboy3361]

@@thechristmascretin7034 hit the quan for us ol' grunchy

[@ob5784]

Feeling this one a lot this year. Lost my grandfather recently, and due to illness will be unable to attend his funeral. I was with him until his dying moments, at the least, but this christmas I am stranded alone in this shitty rental, no family, no friends, no happiness. The sun hasnt risen on christmas yet. I can still be a saint.

[@sirentity465]

Im so sorry for your loss, i hope you have a merry Christmas

[@tomhumphries912]

sainte

[@Superboologan1]

You have yet to truly become a monster

[@asentientgoose]

sending love ❣️

[@Prosciutttto]

Christmas is approaching yet again. Hopefully it finds you better than last year's

[@st6108]

this smoother than most animations on youtube

[@jacobthesomething]

sad but true

[@st6108]

JacobTheSomething why are you sad? this is a masterpiece

[@jacobthesomething]

+electrickazoo indeed it is. i'm talking about how it's sad that this is smoother than most animations on youtube.

[@Kryptnyt]

I swear that Claus is drawn on an Etch-a-sketch

[@TheSRB2GuyOG]

everytime it's december, i always watch it until the day i die...

[@theders8590]

It’s like a weird mix of nostalgia, trippiness, calmness. However you describe it....I’m addicted to it.

[@tritonwe8937]

Why are we all. Lemme tell you why : 1st: the music 2nd: the funny animation And 3rd : the fact that the music creates a nostalgic effect makes us re-watch it to feel the sensation again