Griefers are getting BANNED on HC servers - Guzu reacts

[@josephdugas8195]

That harpy death was because of the people opening the boxes. When you open the ration crate it spawns 3-4 harpies down the tunnel that rush the crates before the named mob for the quest spawns.

[@Moldylocks]

Yup! And that moron hunter opened more than one crate as well, I have seen double waves before.

[@mitchtheronin1469]

what i like about these videos is, you learn which spots/quests to avoid

[@Crotes1990]

True! For me it's learning me where to station my rogue tho 😇

[@veng3r663]

We were not even safe standing in line for 20 minutes waiting for OUR turn at Garrick Padfoot over in Northshire...

[@mitchtheronin1469]

@@veng3r663 yeah had the same in barrens for 2 mobs. i would say skip it

[@MrJonboy]

8:06 that little look the guy gave just before running away haha

[@indicaflower5996]

That gnome haircut comment on chat killed me the dude nailed it.

[@jmd1743]

HC + that AI voice addon fundamentally changes WoW into a new game. You actually care what the NPCs have to say + you can't brute force your way to max level cap because all that will do is end up causing you to do is start from scratch.

[@Thorvald9666]

I think it was that one rogue that sat killing the npc for 8 hours a day at the logging camp in elwynn who got banned. That is actually against the rules. He happened to be the same account as Appealgodx

[@kaiser2261]

What a sociopath

[@gothic..]

why are you making up fan fiction lol

[@Thorvald9666]

@@gothic.. lmao keep yourself safe

[@gothic..]

@@Thorvald9666 you don't know what you're talking about at all but okay

[@damnation8263]

@@gothic.. yes appealgodx is multiple people all of their accounts for perms banned

[@EdetaKudou]

Im all for griefers getting banned. They are ruining other ppl's gameplay on purpose and negatively impacting other ppl game experience out of pure hate.

[@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940]

How can you say its hate? It could be for lols too. Like asmon gets trolled even by his editors. They dont do it out of hate im sure.

[@DelRae]

@@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940maybe not hate but its def malicious intent

[@lydon5595]

@@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940 It doesn't really matter. Their goal is to ruin the game for everybody. Just ban them. After that, they can appeal at Blizzard if they want.

[@mrpotatohead321]

I wouldn’t really equate sadism to hate, but your general point is valid.

[@VeluBeru]

Hardcore players ruin gameplay and interactivity for non-participants, whom which are victims of their servers being dominated by this wave of interest.

[@lebrewski3103]

The gnome vendor in the BRD bar isn't linked to other mobs in the bar. I used to solo-farm him for the Shanker back in vanilla. I basically lived there for a couple of week, stealth to the bar, clear patron, kill him, run out, rinse and repear.

[@MrRyanfisher]

That guzzler gnome is the one gnome you DON'T want to pull first, because he's attached to every mob in that room.

[@mihaimyth51]

I'm amazed how people don't know that yet...after so many years. And so many wipes in that place.

[@giggitygoo21]

at that point, you gotta jump up on the barrels to LOS and pull the casters in range.

[@MrRyanfisher]

@@giggitygoo21 There is no "at that point". The Grim Guzzler aggros if you attack the bartender, and they're not all casters.

[@giggitygoo21]

@@MrRyanfisher i know i just mean if the tank screws up and doesnt know, he should at least LOS

[@amburger4963]

I think Asmon playing HC could be your savior for the griefers.

[@tylermills2363]

The griefers only double due to him playing lol

[@dflowers6771]

id take a ban to grief that shitter

[@Miranox2]

@@tylermills2363 They were crying about getting banned for griefing. It was hilarious.

[@steve8smith9]

@@Miranox2 boy this has already aged poorly

[@RunicTitan]

@@Miranox2 They werent banned. The image of the ban was faked and staged by the griefer, they even made a yt vid about it.. :/ If you do search it up, please report the video for harassment (stream-sniping + toxicity + griefing)

[@EricBoudreau-u7u]

The death at 5:10 there is a mage that goes invisible or accepts a summons at the end of the clip; I think he got fire blasted and that chopped him in half.

[@fadence]

When you look at the death log, you just see the hours upon hours of time that literally just gets deleted. It hurts

[@anthonyfaiell3263]

You could always just type /played to figure out how much of your life you have wasted.

[@fadence]

@@anthonyfaiell3263 Oh nice one, been wondering what that meant since 2005

[@YoutubeDictatorship2024]

What do you think life is here on planet earth for all life forms? Hours and hours of playtime, all for it to be deleted upon death. Nothing new here

[@dancinglight8411]

@@KZbinDictatorship2024 someones been playing a bit too much hc

[@YoutubeDictatorship2024]

@@dancinglight8411 I haven’t played wow since everyone was playing classic like over a year ago. That wasn’t even hardcore and I regret all the time I wasted trying to recreate the magic I experienced in 2005. Wow is dead, and it isn’t because of the game. It’s because of the player base. If a whole new wave of people started playing wow for the first time and you could magically make sure no veterans with knowledge of the game are the majority, this game would flourish once again. It’s the knowledge and the min maxxing community that ruined this game, hence why the veterans crave a brand new mmo.

[@arauddryxd6483]

5:40 legend says horde have a line there

[@giggitygoo21]

10:45 you gotta jump up on the barrels to LOS and pull the casters in range.

[@draakgast]

that last one was weird, when I played (not hardcore obv) and a mob got on a party member on the way, the tank just had excuse to warm up and usually the other party-member would help aswel, if your team mate is in trouble help, not run past, made that mistake ONCE but still regret it

[@patrickbang3037]

just running past a party member in trouble is fucking cold hearted lmao

[@jujupants2486]

Thing that gets me are people trying to do tricky pulls to potentially save 10 minutes when you can lose 6 days. Theres the notion of "Risk it for the biscuit" but this is not one of those. Its simply "Risk it..." and there is no biscuit.

[@abduljabars]

The main problem for asmon isn't going to be griefers, it's the mob of people constantly swarming him everywhere he goes. Fully buffing and making sure their Icon doesn't die. Not much of a HC experience.

[@devarient]

Also because of the crowd you don't know who's there in support and who's there to just kill his characters over and over

[@operez1990]

5:00 you learn about Thrash as Horde in the Barrens (Sunscale Scytheclaws)

[@reemon996]

the Grim guzzler clip xD u can tell they obviously never done this before, when you attack him, EVERY single mob in this area becomes hostile and aggros to you lmfaoooo

[@Wild_Open]

First mage did nothing wrong. They were literally saying they were fine (stupidly) up until shit went south at the very end. Why should the mage risk his own life there? He started helping out when they were close to the entrance.

[@lolleonlolable]

dude mage is a hero class when it comes to melee mobs and he had all his cds so he wasnt in danger if he would helped he was just bad. he literally did the abselute MINIMUM he could do by casting one blizzard at the end and than INSTA roach out just because of one net .. the priest prolly died because of that. id never play with that mage again.

[@atcera8714]

Dafaq is with the second clip, they're lvl 60, usually by that lvl I farm BRD for runecloth, skinning and fiery enchant

[@ha343lmk]

Anyone know the song that starts at 16:42?

[@pancreasdragonheart9765]

Why havent I seen people grief with the Doomguards yet? The coolest spell in game and I've not seen a singel Doomguard the past 2 years,...

[@Himbayo]

If you grief, you shouldn't be allowed to play the game. I don't understand how it's acceptable to have players ruining other players experience on any level.

[@krasstian12]

2:00 what's that playerframe?

[@Geminei]

What addon warns you about the quest?

[@anthonyfaiell3263]

Eventually this is going to lead to the same problems as bots. 1) they pay subscription. 2) them playing the game the way they want to play it often won't make other people stop paying for subscription. 3) removing griefers from the game is not going to magically make a bunch of new players flock to the game. . This means that solving the problem of griefers (or botters) actually loses them money, both in the sense of direct sub money, and in terms of designing and implementing systems to deal with them.The main problem is that the people that sit there complaining about bots and griefers are people who are still subbed to the game... In a capitalistic society consumer complaints don't mean jack shit if they are not accompanied by a cut to profits. In other words, your words mean nothing. You can complain about it, you can cry about it, but until you stop giving them money as a direct result of it, it will keep happening.

[@YoutubeDictatorship2024]

Where is your proof removing griefers won’t bring new people to the game?

[@Fibah]

There aren't enough griefers for it to be bad to remove them. A literal single drop of water in a giant bucket. Just throw them out. Your argument doesn't work.

[@anthonyfaiell3263]

@@KZbinDictatorship2024 Where is your proof that it will? Because implementing systems to deal with them is going to objectively cost a sum of money. Can you prove that sum of money will be made up in not only sub to replace the griefers that were paying subs... but also to make up for the investment into the systems to deal with them? . For them to make that financial commitment, I don't have to prove that it won't. But you would have to prove that it will. Not sure you understand how risk assessment works for companies.

[@anthonyfaiell3263]

@@Fibah That doesn't matter, it's literally just lost money however many of them there are. Why would they make an investment that is going to objectively lose them money?

[@Fibah]

@@anthonyfaiell3263 So you think they shouldn't ban anybody EVER because "they'll lose money" So lets just allow cheaters and glitch abusers too and never ban any bots either. You are very smart. And it does NOT "objectively" lose them money, you have no proof that it would lose them any money in the long run.

[@rhone733]

I see zero point in doing HC dungeons. I don't trust people that much.

[@Helikaeon]

That last clip...nevermind BoP, he's Holy. He literally had a huge instant heal he could've cranked into that druid and he'd have been fine long enough for a few casted heals. Also, get an SP 1h/board if you aren't Ret. There's literally no reason not to.

[@andreasstahl8207]

Yeah as a Holy paladin main (Not been playing for years though) that actually hurt to watch... He bubbles and healing himself? Makes no sense. The druid messed up too though for not going into bearform instantly but wow I feel bad for that paladin. His movement after screams of guilt and he knows he messed up bad.

[@kkjjqrysdgadff7782]

In fairness it happened quickly and he panicked. He clearly realized immediately after.

[@Helikaeon]

@@kkjjqrysdgadff7782 the more intriguing debate at hand: why did you roll your face on your keyboard for your username?

[@TWEAKLET]

that brd pull is doable in a non 60 group your healer just needs to be good and you need a mage most the mobs are non elite ive done the same accidental pull before not knowing that npc has crap pathing

[@DarthStuticus]

All they have to do is send asmon an email with when he wants to play, and assign a GM to babysit. They wont have to wait long if its not out in the open.

[@operez1990]

1:10 Asmongold also has to deal with his fan boys trying to get their 15min.

[@austinedinburgh8936]

What’s the better server to join for HC play? Currently kinda burnt out of retail/wotlk and just looking for something new to enjoy, played classic the first time around and didn’t get past 40 due to IRL, now I got the time thanks in advance!

[@indrickboreale5463]

Bloodsail bucc if you’re na Hydraxian Warlords if you’re eu

[@WillyTung]

Wish the videos were linked in the desc.

[@Sebastianwiberg]

in the last clip I dont blame the paladin, Braff didnt even go bear and seems he's the tank. if he was bear then pala couldve focused the bear but druid only had threat cause of bubble, when bubble ends he gets all the threat again since druid didnt bear aoe them.

[@mervinatrix3995]

I disagree. Paladin flash healed himself THREE times, while in bubble. Also doesn't have crucial things bound, like lay on hands. Gotta do better, bind the keys, you're safe in bubble heal the people with aggro.

[@sherrix6881]

I’m all about the gank, and don’t mind the odd grief. However, this is becoming more a harassment issue.

[@hixym]

4:40 he was a high skilled rouge... if he was a high skilled rogue he would have survived xD

[@allviper]

I'm fine with people kitting mobs around. But when they go into a new zone the program should actually disconnect any mob kitting for a person. It does make hardcore easier, but @$$ like that get somewhat stopped.

[@shaunyeo3349]

It's the irl of blowing a little kids birthday candles out 😅😅

[@koshka02]

that feral druid's UI looked horrible

[@DFiSH222]

4:40 ah yes a high skilled rouge.

[@hurtigheinz3790]

You have to fight the BRD barkeeper right where he is. Then you'll only fight the few ppl who stadn there.

[@Kavou]

Love the KH music, brings so much Nostalgia.

[@boalollal242]

If that was on regular era servers, banning is bs. Complete bs.

[@utubefordan]

That is not how you pull Plugger. You should pull that from the stairs by Phalanx and los the packs back. You only need to pull the group by the stairs and then pull Plugger

[@ShadyDavev3]

the harpy death is his fault because no one should try and ego complete that quest. just avoid it entirely lmao

[@philisophyminuteman]

Asmongold is the only person that deserves the griefing.

[@damnation8263]

Quite a few of the griefers have been permanently banned even one got all of his accounts banned his name was appealgodx

[@veng3r663]

And just think at HOW much of this griefing would not be possible except for two particular Classes... 🗡 🏹

[@jfbigorna]

That all griefers be banned things have to change, there are too many stupid people in the world, at least make the game healthier.

[@aerosmithfan1991]

I'd just like to say that personally, greifing someone on a pvp server just cause they are flagged, and doing it on a pve server using mobs, is the exact same thing. Grief is grief. It'd wrong regardless.

[@DarKodama]

4:03 High skilled "rouge", low skilled writter

[@robertrijkers947]

too bad they only ban them when megastreamers are involved

[@anthonyfaiell3263]

1) griefers pay subscription 2) getting griefed is unlikely to make you stop paying for subscription. 3) removing griefers will not make more people subscribe to the game. . This means that solving the problem of griefers will result in no influx of profit, while removing a bunch of paying subscribers... in other words. They would lose money for solving this problem. . The only solution to this is for consumers to have enough self respect to literally just unsubscribe from the game and openly say it is because of griefers and botters. If Blizzard saw people were willing to stop paying them money if this problem doesn't get fixed... I guarantee they would do something about it. . That's exactly why they only do stuff when megastreamers are involved. Because megastreamers bring light to the negative situation and have the power to push the sheep to unsubscribe. . But in large part, most people wouldn't even know botters or griefers exist without megastreamers in the first place... Sad but true.

[@mikkeljensen9488]

​@@anthonyfaiell3263 idk why you assume people would keep playing after getting griefed. If I get griefed post lvl 40, i'm done. No more wow for me.

[@damnation8263]

@@anthonyfaiell3263most people don’t keep playing when getting grief the fuck you on about

[@Mabarpalsu]

@@anthonyfaiell3263 IM done play lv39 in SV after getting grief... Fuck this game

[@michele4578]

Worst pala ever at the end lol

[@draganmilovanovic8940]

If I start playing hc wow, I will make rogue guild to grief the griefers, you can find them easy on pvp flagging quests and things.

[@thomasdiegezeiten3999]

Mental sickness. Im so happy to hear Blizzard ban this crap out of the game.

[@magerr98]

never ever auto pilot ANYTHING on HC. how many people auto pilot in IF right into the lava at the forge gotta be careful

[@Watashi_wa_robottodesu]

I think its funny how seriously people take a game they don't get paid to play. If you get that upset over a game you have to monthly pay for, probably shouldn't play it.

[@spaceistheplace8376]

10 :15 "miss,miss ,parry" mby because this an elite 1 lvl above hmm...

[@DarrKernow]

"Brapf the high skilled rouge" /facedesk

[@Diskreet44]

lol i was the rogue shivalrous just sat there and watched him die

[@fredericduriau6616]

They play hardcore and attack alone elite mobs 🙄.And in the blackrock tavern you have to really know what to do or it's a sure wipe.

[@daveprince13]

5:50 is why I’m not playing HC.

[@kropka8259]

And my 17 lvl priest died because i went afk and got killed by lvl 11 spider... on a main road not too far from a fly master. If you are going to take food out of the oven make sure you log out. All I'm saying...

[@Vilhomatto]

I think having griefers and their accounts permabanned is good for overall community. I highly doubt Blizzard gains anything of having that level toxicity in their game.

[@chukky1124]

they should ban alot more players with toxic behavior really.

[@ollienewman4901]

watched that wipe in guild chat

[@jugarnaut40]

If griefers are willing to target total nobodies, then playing HC isn't worth it in my opinion. My first toon I started playing got to level 10, got griefed. I have no problem with them perma banning griefers if that's the level they're willing to go to on a RP server. Not playing HC till the problem dies down or gets fixed though.

[@sathdk79]

Blizzard banned me from forums for reporting a griefer so don’t believe it

[@chukky1124]

then you said some words that werent allowed... because i have been on the forums since they opened and also report grievers to an extend and never got banned... soo.....dont rage ?

[@Slappfesk1]

okay mr Dane, i understand the 1 life, death = Delete, but what if you do bgs?

[@chukky1124]

1 life is 1 death... even in bg's

[@Wyr3d]

But these are not really hardcore servers. They are RP servers. There are no hardcore servers til they get released later this summer.

[@daleklamert8865]

That BRD mage almost died doing the bare minimum and you're saying he should have done more, they got long range nets why would the mage risk that??

[@lolleonlolable]

what u mean almost died lol ? he still had 2 iceblocks 2 frost nova 2 ice barriers/pot/blink. fu..ing noob.

[@kramer1916]

spergmongold got assburgers and horseteeth

[@dimvots6729]

The most sad thing about Asmongold is that if he wasnt a streamer he would be the griefer.

[@veng3r663]

Must be payback for all the mounts he stole during those RUST OTV Server days...

[@PocokPresents]

Im happy griefers getting banned. Pulling mobs to low level characters or tricking someone to hit you while you pvp on is a big nono. However, if you hand in a quest and you get pvp enabled like in SoS, thats fine with me. Thats your fault.

[@theiriksson]

Feel like there's an argument to be made that turning in a random quest in DM shouldn't PvP flag you in the first place. That NPC should just not be flagged. And even if we agreed that it was your fault, it's hardly your fault that low-life assholes are sitting there in stealth, waiting for people to accidentally flag themselves. Pretty much the same as a gathering node grief to me.

[@AntonioBetzu]

Why banning players for enjoying one of the game's mechanics?

[@spaceorbison]

This game wasn't meant to be played hardcore... how the hell can you police this game like that in an open world environment....

[@DontDoItJimmy]

Getting banned for griefing would be nonsense. They aren't HC servers. They are unofficial. It isnt *don't die except for...*, its *don't die*.

[@louisnel894]

Its an Ez fix, or atleast it sounds Ez. 1 simple thing to add to the game, if u die you cannot ress.. Cuz based on that asmongold clip when said he will just ress and go to inn...... should not be doable. Cuz I would assume most of griefers are not hardcore anymore?

[@ilovememes2026]

i stopped playing hc for the last week cause every time i log on i step out of the inn in redridge and there is this night elf hunter kiting these dragon right out side and before that, i was leveling in westfall and this dwarf hunter was kiting teremus through all of westfall and elwynn forest all day long everyday. I really dont mind the occasional grief it was really funny and exciting the first time it happened to me the second time the day after, i was like oh okay this again i guess... but now its just fucking annoying since its been every time i log on and unfortunately i have the same play hours as these two griefers i have no idea if other people have been having the same experience as me. (this is all on the na server btw)

[@Scionofgreyhaven]

I like griefers assume WoW or all MMOs are these sandbox, ultimate freedom games where you can do whatever you want to when that has never been the case

[@devonchafe2764]

Banning griefers is the norm in other MMOs, blizzard just cares about money not their community. So they'll gladly let those people keep giving them money instead of dealing with them

[@Blinkurz]

Love watching that dude Zhevra get perma-banned. Even better because he's a troll hunter xD. Imagine spending 15+ years to buildout all of your toons only to have them permanently deleted! Get griefed! LOL! I've seen that dude Zhevra griefing people in game and every streamer since I started HC, he deserves it. Appealgodx got banned too. SUCK IT!

[@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940]

Do you feel as much joy, when a griefer doesnt get banned, but changes his lifestyle and doesnt grief anymore?

[@TaraD1999]

You sound mad af lmao

[@Barrog420]

They don't its fake lol.

[@Smuffins42069]

Streamers have such fragile egos. There is no way to ban somebody for ‘griefing’. It’s not their fault a mob is leashed on to them while they’re trying to get away

[@damnation8263]

Nice bait

[@macadaymo9226]

Seems like it is a part of the game :S If blizzard doesn't want it why don't they just remove the mechanic as it goes up? Ohh.. that's right they put all their dev time into overwatch 2 which is now scrapped OmegaLul

[@sirlionheart4614]

1) got what he deserves for streaming (oh well bro) 2) good the griefers got banned for breaking tos and the social contract. You stream your gonna get stream sniped it comes with the territory and you break the rules you get banned.

[@CrazyhorseDK]

biggest crybabies = wow players allways were

[@jamilthemaster]

I don’t see how people who walk with their backs to the mobs even get this far. The guy at 6:50 was baby brain drooling RP walking away from 5 mobs all dazing him from behind

[@spaceistheplace8376]

lvl 46 is trying to kill lvl 47 elite, like cmon.the audacity ...so dumb and he is like a warrior ...what did he expect here even,like ""im not some kinda normie noob, i got it" - gets slapped

[@Prebound_]

I would like the freedom to grief even though it's not something I'd ever do.

[@wackywarrior001]

This is a huge step. If blizzard can do things like this more often and effectively that kind of thing resonated huge with the player base , especially over time . As more people post videos and one day blizzard is known as,the place cheaters and griefers are not tolerated, that is a huge positive for their shattered image

[@DarkRa]

it shouldnt ben bannable it part of the games lol in classic we kite world bosses to cities

[@wackywarrior001]

@@DarkRa this is hard core it’s different

[@Mortified42]

I don't think greifers should be banned. It ruins the spirit of hardcore. If people don't like getting killed, then go play normal mode. It's called HARDcore for a reason. WoW is an easy game to recover on after a loss. Go play Escape From Tarkov and then make the comparison.

[@jkbmjrck]

If your idea of fun is ruining the game for others, you deserve to be banned. I hope it's true and they really are banning them.

[@lolleonlolable]

what u mean dont blame the mage lol, i aoe farmed this while lvling in classic when it came out as a frost mage u can litreally solo carry/cc like 10-15 mobs for like 10-20sec there, most mobs are melee and dont do shit. he had iceblock and coldsnap off cd, so he could cast a blizz from rage nova everything, block off aggro/net if he needs too, coldsnap nova again, blink/run away if he gets netted or some shit again he could use the scnd block like he was 100%save there. if i was the mage id immediatly run to them and try to help, like he was just afking for a minute than casting a single blizz when there were almosdt dead already lol ^^ also he insta blinked out when he was just netted and prolly the priest died too because of that, really bad mage.

[@lustip8194]

The brd wipe... well played, rest in peace

[@lolleonlolable]

what u mean well played xd there all dead.

[@ArtekCzwartek87]

black haired john bravo

[@acepalomino4718]

15:30 warrs not even inna stance, gotta love these hc players 😂

[@zephid11]

He is in a stance, he used execute, which require either battle or berserker stance. He has probably just filtered his buffs to remove stances.

[@joeschmoe-q1d]

They fixed the missing diplomat it don't flag u know more

[@lolleonlolable]

dude that warri in brd is so bad xddd he does like nothing the first 30 sec, like hes losing for no reason not even attacking most of the time and even if he does he attack single mobs, than when most shit is already dead he pops deathwish and sweeping strikes xdd and than hea fears for no real reason and kills everyone with it hahahaha

[@rykenzofortyone7008]

rule numeber one,never fck with BRD brew guy,hes gonna bring all his dudes LUL,its same like piss off the barman with all his dudes in bar LUL

[@BvictoryforChrist]

That ogre inBS is rude.

[@Byturr]

There is no HC official server (for now), sooooo, for what did they get banned ? play the game with blizzards rules ? ... That doesnt seem fair since its not in the rules :/ This always exist, ppl playng HC just make the juice heaven saltier than usual for those carbage ppl, and its tenicaly ok with the rule as they stand so the ban doesnt seem fair until we get HC servers

[@klarixx5852]

griefing and harassment are against the rules yes

[@kkjjqrysdgadff7782]

Gameplay disruption is against TOS. Learn to read.