I Accidentally Fell Down the Funniest Rabbit Hole

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@polskipaul7567
@polskipaul7567 Жыл бұрын
"not gonna watch a 32 min video". one hour 30 minutes video. Oh boi here we go.
@jujube2000
@jujube2000 Жыл бұрын
true always like this
@LazyViking_
@LazyViking_ Жыл бұрын
It is gonna be hilarious for sure
@thePyiott
@thePyiott Жыл бұрын
Already finished it at 4x speed
@Pingpongsicc
@Pingpongsicc Жыл бұрын
A one and a half hour reaction video means he watched at least five minutes of the actual video pog
@myng7177
@myng7177 Жыл бұрын
Well, if he did we would had an 3 hours video instead
@rm9346
@rm9346 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact from someone who studied IP in law school: There was a case where a phone book company sued a rival for copying their phone book. They argued that names and phone numbers are public, they couldn't have copied the rival. Company #1 responded with "Bro, we created 20 fake names and numbers. They are in your book too." Now I look at that list of waypoints in the guide, and I see them copied down to the decimal point....
@hoangcu9093
@hoangcu9093 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelLodaall he did was add a 1 or 2 at the end
@lel90
@lel90 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelLoda are you MrGM fake youtube account?
@xplorethings
@xplorethings Жыл бұрын
Mapmakers do this regularly with fake villages and roads.
@theredscourge
@theredscourge Жыл бұрын
@@hoangcu9093 there are statistical ways to tell if someone did this because people arent good random number generators
@zoulzopan
@zoulzopan Жыл бұрын
​@@xplorethingsso thays why i keep getting lost
@Ezekiel88210
@Ezekiel88210 Жыл бұрын
"This is the dumbest shit I've seen in a while" "I know and that's why it deserve my full attention" Legend
@darkhorsedre
@darkhorsedre 10 ай бұрын
My subconscious thoughts before ever YT rabbit hole, including this one :\
@Drewer
@Drewer 8 ай бұрын
i want a t-shirt with this!!!
@FemboyNursing
@FemboyNursing 8 ай бұрын
33:02 for those who are seeking this legendary meme
@AlexandruTanase11
@AlexandruTanase11 4 ай бұрын
i read this comment exactly as he was saying that. kinda creepy
@nine9nine9
@nine9nine9 Жыл бұрын
He won me around 45mins to 50mins when MrGM edited his name out of the list -- thats crazy
@Steely_Fran
@Steely_Fran 11 ай бұрын
Same.
@ZitronCrazy
@ZitronCrazy 10 ай бұрын
Yes, same for me
@dbozam
@dbozam 7 ай бұрын
Enough for me to go down vote every Mr GM video. Moudi wouldn't leave the partnership program just because Blizzard doesn't believe his fantasies. Moudi is willing to die for his beliefs and the world needs more support of those who believe in integrity.
@KodamaoftheWeastTree
@KodamaoftheWeastTree 6 ай бұрын
In GM’s defense, I’m gunna be petty towards someone that’s schizo asf to me to everyone we know all the time. He’s been acting like this for long before the video.
@LibertarianGalt
@LibertarianGalt 6 ай бұрын
​@@KodamaoftheWeastTreeMrGM knew he was stealing his content though
@ToBeLikeAlways
@ToBeLikeAlways 11 ай бұрын
only asmon can make me spend 90 min on 11pm on a monday on beef of 2 people i have no idea of about a game i dont play, and its somehow peak content
@OverFjell
@OverFjell 5 ай бұрын
Same, I do not and have never played WoW but I was quite invested in this drama by the end of the video lol
@maksimsk.2700
@maksimsk.2700 5 ай бұрын
Even vetter, I played WoW about 20 minutes and realized I strongly don't like this game and yet I watched this video in full )
@Oni_XT
@Oni_XT 5 ай бұрын
This comment is way too accurate.
@halvorson566
@halvorson566 4 ай бұрын
Same bro same
@Xfghstryhfghfg
@Xfghstryhfghfg 3 ай бұрын
same here
@KaraZola
@KaraZola Жыл бұрын
5 minutes in: "Hahahaha this dude is crazy" 1 and a half hours in: "Sir yes sir, I will destroy MrGM"
@somethingclever4563
@somethingclever4563 Жыл бұрын
Lmao ikr?!
@WeDemandGlitterhoof
@WeDemandGlitterhoof Жыл бұрын
All the WoW content creators defending MrGM on Twitter roflmao. Never change WoW community 🤡🤡
@PanjolArt
@PanjolArt Жыл бұрын
@@WeDemandGlitterhoof get instantly blocked by mrgm and their dck rider after saying that mrgm stole moudi idea/research/guides after watching asmong video lol, and now some of his viewers making false accusations about me and other people sending death threats to him and his family, they even mention/retweeting my comment/reply lol.
@Giliver
@Giliver Жыл бұрын
​@@WeDemandGlitterhoofthat's because the only ones left have no integrity, the ones that did left during the mass exodus.
@metallboy25
@metallboy25 Жыл бұрын
​@@WeDemandGlitterhoofThey probably do it too, but are just better at concealing it. . 😅
@DucklingNM
@DucklingNM Жыл бұрын
this is the best storyline blizzards written in years
@RelativisticVelocity
@RelativisticVelocity Жыл бұрын
We are the NPCs in Bobby's world
@Balloonbot
@Balloonbot Жыл бұрын
@@RelativisticVelocity Well met
@shortbusbully
@shortbusbully Жыл бұрын
​@@RelativisticVelocityis Uncle Ted around?
@danielesquivel8936
@danielesquivel8936 Жыл бұрын
WoW/Blizzard drama is basically reality TV for nerds
@MilesHoppus
@MilesHoppus Жыл бұрын
So true lmao
@PizzaPatroll
@PizzaPatroll Жыл бұрын
Shit that comment hit me hard. Here I was thinking "I'm so over reality TV" being all proud, meanwhile I'm sitting here with the flu watching him live like "oooooo detective asmon is on the case". But damn I love this shit.
@cykeok3525
@cykeok3525 Жыл бұрын
@@PizzaPatroll God damn.. that was a hell of a wake up call right? XD
@SimonRobeyns
@SimonRobeyns Жыл бұрын
so is literally every youtube drama online of people watching that has no connection to the dramapeople but dive into the argument :D
@ccsilverwolf8462
@ccsilverwolf8462 Жыл бұрын
Fuck. Can't unsee. It's true.
@whisped8145
@whisped8145 11 ай бұрын
1:07:15 That's just what being in a situation like this does with you over time. Gaslighting does the same with people. It eventually makes the target/victim unhinged and then the perpetrator points fingers and yells to everyone: "See! Unhinged! I'm the real victim!"
@nicklasveva
@nicklasveva 6 ай бұрын
Same with out of context freakouts. I've seen context added to some of those videos where the person recording was physically assaulting the person who had the freakout in the video. You don't actually know what's real or not until you see the context.
@650sFinnest
@650sFinnest Жыл бұрын
This makes perfect sense if you take into account the guy is a scientist. Getting and giving credit is probably the most important thing for scientists. Just read any rea search paper and look at the references page, or listen to any Radiolab and listen to the end when they credit even the dude who made them a coffee in the morning 😂
@alexanderroan
@alexanderroan Ай бұрын
This guy get's annoyed if someone behind him in a coffee shop orders the same drink
@JohnSmith-b6n
@JohnSmith-b6n 27 күн бұрын
He owns the internet afterall
@IAreSmeegoo
@IAreSmeegoo Жыл бұрын
This guy convinced me, although he presented his case less like someone with a PHD or whatever he said he has and more like a guy thats been living in a parking garage for 25 years.
@frousteleous1285
@frousteleous1285 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this happens a lot. it was the case with the whole Runescape debacle from like....several months ago? A year ago? Sit down, write out bullet points. Make a case. But like, these people just come off like theyre ranting.
@FoxiestLia
@FoxiestLia Жыл бұрын
Partial part of the issue here is that it is very clear that English is not Moudi’s main language (from my understanding he’s Swedish (which I am), from a country which has a generally high understanding of English but is not necessarily 100% proficient in it). Add on top of that the fact that he is evidently invested in this and has been agitated for months it seems like if not even longer. I am not surprised the way it’s presented is subpar for his education. And I can almost guarantee that if this video was made in Swedish, on a subject that did not emotionally agitate him as much, it would be much more professionally done and better structured.
@asmosmeden
@asmosmeden Жыл бұрын
He has a Phd and always been a passionate guy, we haven't been close friends but known about each other's existence for over 20+ years, and as far as i remember we both have had same difficulty to hold back and keep our emotions in check when we've been wronged. I'm kind of sad that he didn't present his case in a calmer manner but also a bit emotional that he's the same guy he was in high school 🥲
@eric-nd9yy
@eric-nd9yy Жыл бұрын
Try to get one of manipulative girlfriend, passive aggressive at its finest. and you become Moudi. Everyone will hate you and on your girlfriend side.
@jonsible
@jonsible Жыл бұрын
​​​@@FoxiestLiait's not a language gap, he was very eloquent when attacking the professionalism of the Community Manager. The problem comes from repeated accusations without smoking gun proof. As Asmond says, he's so far into it that he can't see why a reasonable person would doubt him. He should have never reached out to the CM without the evidence in hand. There is no excuse for waiting to be asked, as if he is entitled to be believed because he knows it's true. It's not a language gap that he DM'd someone with unwanted correspondence to just say 'STAHP IT!' Repeatedly. What did he expect to accomplish? The thief would say "Oh yeah ur right my bad". It just doesn't make sense. That is how playground quarrels are handled. Sue the guy, provide indisputable proof, or stop harassing the guy.
@ShinForgotPassxXx
@ShinForgotPassxXx Жыл бұрын
The man got so gaslighted that he comes over as a nutjob when he might actually be right.
@zenmonk5403
@zenmonk5403 Жыл бұрын
Moudi is 1000% correct. People are riding on him for not being a native English speaker and not bringing his point across as coherently as possible.
@DunningofKruger
@DunningofKruger Жыл бұрын
@@zenmonk5403 No Moudi is 100% being a schizo with a cork board in his bedroom hate watching MrGM to find every single time he's done similar things to him. He fails to bring anything that's actually content theft from him, "I was unaware I needed proof" is the stupidest thing. He's crying that he makes similar videos to him and saying memes like "be honest, you don't have to lie to me.". Even with his side of the story I'm doubting him, with all the framing and arguments from this guy, he doesn't bring up a single shred of actual evidence of content theft. It's like Asmongold said at the start, it's like a weatherman crying about another news station copying his broadcast, Especially considering a Dev literally states he leads PTR players to conclusions.
@zenmonk5403
@zenmonk5403 Жыл бұрын
@@DunningofKruger If he were hate watching him all the time, there would be more footage from the stream. The lack of it is exactly due to time reasons. And since MrMinge already showed himself to have the honor of a rat, he would probably immediately copyright strike a video with predominantely footage of his stream.
@gozewstuffnthings5837
@gozewstuffnthings5837 Жыл бұрын
Literally doesn't matter if he is right in regards to the outcomes and issues he's perceiving though.
@DunningofKruger
@DunningofKruger Жыл бұрын
@@zenmonk5403 literally proving my point “If he was hate watching he’d have more footage.” Exactly, and because all he has is like 3 comments and a video upload does that not prove my point exactly? Editing someone that’s borderline harassing you out of an image is hardly “the honour of a rat.”
@ReconNite
@ReconNite Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Moudi should've put some fake information out with his guides to see if Mr. GM video would contain the same misinformation but I feel like now that he's made this video, it will be harder for him to prove anything more.
@Blandco
@Blandco Жыл бұрын
This is what you gotta do.
@AlexanderPearson
@AlexanderPearson Жыл бұрын
Problem with the poison pill method is that you are also giving bad info to your real viewers.
@apensalesman
@apensalesman Жыл бұрын
​@@AlexanderPearson yeah it'd be smart to call out the stealer, but at the same time it'd hurt his credibility at the same time. Like when fextra life puts out incorrect info just to be the first wiki on a game
@DarkXessZ
@DarkXessZ Жыл бұрын
​​@@apensalesmanI think instead of fake info use an guide that is very rarely ever use or that most common gamers would not look for in a guide.
@ReconNite
@ReconNite Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderPearson The thing is though is that it doesn't have to be all that harmful, it could simply be a number that is slightly different/off from what is right or he could add a word that doesn't actually exist and see what happens lol.
@OhnoitsKAligraffi
@OhnoitsKAligraffi 11 ай бұрын
"don't guilt trip me into watching the whole video" lol this guy is my new favorite person to watch
@OhnoitsKAligraffi
@OhnoitsKAligraffi 11 ай бұрын
Just finished the video. Asmon you are hilarious
@alphacentaurivenus8037
@alphacentaurivenus8037 11 ай бұрын
This video is the reason why Asmongold will be recorded in the history of Twitch as one of the GOAT streamers of all time. It's so crazy that he made me watch a 90-minute video about a random Guide KZbinr/Streamer about a game I haven't played much, maybe 150-300 hours
@Xelaris
@Xelaris 5 ай бұрын
I never played this game and i watched it all lmao
@Xfghstryhfghfg
@Xfghstryhfghfg 3 ай бұрын
@@Xelaris i played like 10 minutes 15 years ago/ And watched it all with delight
@marceames4670
@marceames4670 2 ай бұрын
I've never even seen the game and I watched the whole thing
@johnwise-m1y
@johnwise-m1y Жыл бұрын
1. You aren't paranoid if they're really out to get you. 2. Mr. GM never denied anything. He only said to shut up, leave him alone, and let him do his thing
@lel90
@lel90 Жыл бұрын
the second point you made is indeed very very good. it sounded like MrGm said "just let me steal and make money off of it"
@RetireandGo
@RetireandGo Жыл бұрын
Mr GM din do nuttin
@Winsane
@Winsane Жыл бұрын
3. Moudi provided 0 evidence 4. Blizzard literally confirmed they had been giving both people the same hints at the same time 5. Innocent until proven guilty. MrGM has no obligation to prove his innocence. It is perfectly reasonable of him to tell Moudi to f off and leave him alone. If you see this as "evidence" for anything, you need to get your brain rot checked by a doctor.
@tangovicious4224
@tangovicious4224 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it denying something, if Mr. GM says "I have no idea who this guy is", when we then get clear evidence that he deletes his name on lists in screenshots and such? I'm not saying it's 100 % proof Mr. GM is stealing content, but he does appear to lie about things in the case.
@lel90
@lel90 Жыл бұрын
@@tangovicious4224 MrGm 100% is the scumbag here. In my opionion there is just too much evidence.
@vgorp3849
@vgorp3849 Жыл бұрын
MrGM absolutely knows who Moudi is, not just because he's probably sniping his content but because the likelihood of two content creators operating in the same niche space not knowing about each other is basically unbelievable.
@Jeffrey_Tyler
@Jeffrey_Tyler Жыл бұрын
I thought that part was the weakest argument in the whole video. Telling someone that is harassing you that you don't know who they are is just a way of trying to piss them off. If you call me a little bitch and I say "I don't even know who you are" it's just a comeback, not a statement of fact.
@noxieproxie
@noxieproxie Жыл бұрын
bro edited the guys name out in a vid! he absolutely did know him xD@@Jeffrey_Tyler
@radiantveggies9348
@radiantveggies9348 Жыл бұрын
​@@Jeffrey_Tylerunless you're thanos
@razz5841
@razz5841 Жыл бұрын
They are both very petty.
@radiantveggies9348
@radiantveggies9348 Жыл бұрын
@@razz5841 pretty*
@hackmatack
@hackmatack Жыл бұрын
This is pretty simple. Moudi has a PhD and is bringing the mindset of a research academic to his WoW content. In academia if you’re the first to discover something and publish it then all subsequent folks who touch on the subject have to cite you.
@pedrojustice
@pedrojustice Жыл бұрын
Only If they use your research. What is normal in science. And you can always arrive to similar results without consulting other parties, while its good practica before you publish anything, you do a full literature review
@ChaoticNeutralMatt
@ChaoticNeutralMatt Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@CreamyPesto505
@CreamyPesto505 Жыл бұрын
That was my takeaway as well. No one hates plagiarism as much as science professors.
@jimsox-kn1dm
@jimsox-kn1dm Жыл бұрын
I think it's just a matter of respect. It's pretty obvious that MrGM has relied on Moudi's research in order to put stuff together, to a pretty substantial degree. To then try and say he has no idea who he is, and then to feign discovery of things when they have already been documented... It's pretty much as blatantly disrespectful as you can get.
@totallynottrademarked5279
@totallynottrademarked5279 9 ай бұрын
To be fair most other game's creator communities do this. They always start by "Check out this cool thing X discovered, I watch them a lot and I am glad they figured this out. Go give them a like and sub." Whereas in WoW every creator just straight Cntrl Copy Pastes people's full typed-up guides into a video and doesn't mention a name ever. Which is all it would take to avoid this stuff.
@chrisnorris7527
@chrisnorris7527 Жыл бұрын
This whole situation reminds me of when I was socially awkward and 20 years old trying to tell quips and jokes. I'd say a funny clever remark.. nobody would hear it except for one dude and then he would repeat it louder and get the laugh from the whole room while I felt robbed. I mean.. I didn't really care, at least the joke got out there, and maybe I said it wrong.. but after a while that stopped as i matured and possibly got louder.
@VetBodGaming
@VetBodGaming Жыл бұрын
He screwed himself over by going after him directly. He should have hidden small bits of fake information in multiple guides and then watched to see if he repeated them.
@nathanward9991
@nathanward9991 Жыл бұрын
I like how it went from bad argument to oh no
@Leah_Newton
@Leah_Newton Жыл бұрын
MrGM roached out 1:02:38 😂 OMG, that is hilarious!
@cukieMunster
@cukieMunster Жыл бұрын
Never trust a roach, unless they say they are goinng to survive.
@partricksterling182
@partricksterling182 Жыл бұрын
He never left, he swapped to his incognito tab😂
@Lunk42
@Lunk42 Жыл бұрын
"We're not going to watch a 32 minute video" *checks progress bar* Yep seems to fit.
@fennyferrister668
@fennyferrister668 Жыл бұрын
To be fair he didn't react he dissected.
@Anonymous-gu2pk
@Anonymous-gu2pk 10 ай бұрын
To make the weather report analogy more fitting, imagine if every day you picked a different state and city to do a report on and (by pure coincidence) some other channel frequently picked the same exact city to focus on a couple of days after you did.
@willischwabe1324
@willischwabe1324 7 ай бұрын
💯!!! Exactly! And with the precise amount of rain drops calculated as a little bonus.
@thechosenone729
@thechosenone729 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't believe leaked DMs because he already manipulated one picture with his name and now if both parties release dm's it will be word against the word... honestly hard to decide.
@projectgg6730
@projectgg6730 Жыл бұрын
i have never heard of either of these creators before. but after watching this im on moudie's side 🤷‍♀
@MGC-XIII
@MGC-XIII Жыл бұрын
you shouldn't be on eithers side, like the wow Dev made clear, Moudi doesn't own this content just because he publishes it first.
@projectgg6730
@projectgg6730 Жыл бұрын
@@MGC-XIII it's not that deep man
@contaim7227
@contaim7227 Жыл бұрын
​@@MGC-XIIInobody cares what a wow dev said. Wtf does a nerds voice in a fake world matter. In what universe.
@LockOn7016
@LockOn7016 Жыл бұрын
@@projectgg6730 yea its not that deep like moudi is making it. who gives a shit
@stealthchopper54
@stealthchopper54 Жыл бұрын
​@@MGC-XIIIciting and giving credit is a moral choice, and its what moudi wants from the guy. And I agree. In science, its a huge taboo to not cite the hard work of others that you're using--so I get why this might irk him so much
@DrinkingMud
@DrinkingMud Жыл бұрын
Real OGs know that MrGM was a snake in the private server scene 💀
@ВладБокарев-й4г
@ВладБокарев-й4г 9 ай бұрын
Fax. Guy like play victim card
@Terrobility
@Terrobility Жыл бұрын
21:25 As soon as I read "I've missed you. lets catch up", I knew that MrGM was in the wrong. Can't be dealing with cringe parasocial antics like that 🤮🤮
@iPanicyt
@iPanicyt Жыл бұрын
So true. Real normal human beings see that as red flags.
@zoo3708
@zoo3708 Жыл бұрын
On one hand moudi seems crazy but genuine and honest but Mr gm fails the vibe check so hard that I believe moudi 100 percent
@KalonOrdona2
@KalonOrdona2 7 ай бұрын
Yup, like another commenter said, this is what being gaslit and cry-bullied looks like. You get unhinged and then the perpetrator points at you and plays victim.
@everstray7482
@everstray7482 8 ай бұрын
Moudi seems the ignorant honest guy who has nothing really to hide but doesn't present himself so well when it comes to this case. Mr. GM seems like the sneaky, smart one, making sure to watch what he says, being extremely generalistic to cover his tracks, pretending he has no idea whats going on, laughing the whole time and looking away as he briefly talks about it... this is his job, so he has way more to lose than moudi, so I'd expect him to do whatever it takes to "make" content and stay relevant, and to keep his image intact. 🤔
@SPNarwhal
@SPNarwhal 10 ай бұрын
If they have a community manager the simple solution, in my opinion, is have these creators report what material they're working on while they're working on it. It would be very suspicious if this guy reports their content-in-progress, then posts it once finished, and then have Mr. GM come and report that he's working on the same content immediately once it goes public.
@slyse7en
@slyse7en Жыл бұрын
*As a lawyer and Asmon enjoyer. I approve of this investigation.*
@RetireandGo
@RetireandGo Жыл бұрын
Have you proven Implausible Reliability?
@Pendji
@Pendji Жыл бұрын
How many cases have you won, Mr Brainrot?
@slyse7en
@slyse7en Жыл бұрын
@@Pendji all of the cases
@Threemore650
@Threemore650 Жыл бұрын
@@Pendjiwhat….. ohhh Is this about race for you? _Ji_ ?
@outofnesters
@outofnesters Жыл бұрын
I giggled for like 10 minutes after this comment. Too bad it's not billable. 😆
@ryanwraight5630
@ryanwraight5630 Жыл бұрын
I hope Mr. GM makes an hour video. This rabbit hole can easily be bigger.
@PizzaPatroll
@PizzaPatroll Жыл бұрын
*grabs shovels* let's keep digging boys
@God-ec8ni
@God-ec8ni Жыл бұрын
Mr GM should do it with a ukulele
@cristinea4690
@cristinea4690 Жыл бұрын
easily 3 hours asmon video. EASILY
@ZM-dm3jg
@ZM-dm3jg Жыл бұрын
We need to go deeper
@Kill_The_Sun
@Kill_The_Sun Жыл бұрын
Deeper… HARDER!!
@spiderraccoon7869
@spiderraccoon7869 Жыл бұрын
Asmongold is saying something I wish more people thought about, even if something seems suspicious and maybe looks for sure like it happened, you still need evidence. You can't just make claims without hard evidence. Moudi could be right, but he can't rely on hearsay and how he sees it, he needs evidence of everything, ESPECIALLY if he's going to a higher power.
@yuno1781
@yuno1781 Жыл бұрын
Shit tell that to courts bro
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Жыл бұрын
@@yuno1781 imagine if this drama actually went to a legal system for infringement
@oussodzkh7372
@oussodzkh7372 Жыл бұрын
You can make claims you just can't make conclusions without evidence
@Idalvene
@Idalvene Жыл бұрын
You'd think a PHD in any branch of science would be very thorough with finding demonstrable, repeatable proof too
@denethorsmackinonmatoes6800
@denethorsmackinonmatoes6800 Жыл бұрын
Hearsay is and has always been admissable in western courts, hearsay evidence is weighed against the credibility of the person that submitted it by the judge hearing it
@Ziron2008
@Ziron2008 9 ай бұрын
saying people can NEVER be angry "or else" is NOT a good path.
@1nspir3dx
@1nspir3dx Жыл бұрын
Asmon: we're not gonna watch a 30 min video Also Asmon: proceeds to watch the entire thing and turns it into a 1.5 hrs video
@JitteryJackanape
@JitteryJackanape Жыл бұрын
I don't play wow, never have. i only discovered asmon from the depp trial. let me tell ya this is one of my favorite beefs i have ever seen.
@XenonArcher
@XenonArcher Жыл бұрын
found him the same way. never touched wow. i think this drama is hilarious tbh
@grilledleeks6514
@grilledleeks6514 Жыл бұрын
​@@XenonArcherwe all care dude. I swear
@friedporchetta
@friedporchetta Жыл бұрын
I know nothing about WoW but somehow watching Asmon break down WoW drama has me invested
@JitteryJackanape
@JitteryJackanape Жыл бұрын
@friedporchetta3302 exactly. Asmond is so good at breaking things down, explaining points from both side's and being rational. And if he doesn't know the answer, he admits as much. His reaction videos have kept me coming back. I think I've caught maybe 1 or 2 of his streams lmao
@XenonArcher
@XenonArcher Жыл бұрын
@@grilledleeks6514 lol
@jimcarrey2866
@jimcarrey2866 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the kinda of useless drama I'd like to see more of
@gingerbill128
@gingerbill128 Жыл бұрын
That made me laugh
@HkJoK
@HkJoK Жыл бұрын
100% agree
@willischwabe1324
@willischwabe1324 7 ай бұрын
I find it kind of important. You would expect the guy who makes that content for a living to be the one who produces results. Instead he is just ripping off other peoples hard work, that was done in their spare time! What will happen if this continues? Most likely the guy who produces the results will quit and the guy who ripped off the work will move on to leech off from the next member who is producing results, until it a) either stops or b) everyone who did free work for the benefit of us all is gone and the leecher managed to make the whole community a worse place for everyone.
@mr.needmoremhz4148
@mr.needmoremhz4148 Жыл бұрын
Moudi is the hard worker here, sadly parasite exist everywhere. I would also quit and do something else, he has talent and is and has a good work ethic. He has a good job. I wouldn't torture myself with this insanity as well.
@alfred9805
@alfred9805 Жыл бұрын
Nice try moudi
@KodamaoftheWeastTree
@KodamaoftheWeastTree Жыл бұрын
Moudi attempting to gaslight us on his alt:
@SkeemborPeeblebutt
@SkeemborPeeblebutt Жыл бұрын
He clearly lacks talent in regard to his WoW content seeing as his channel it still tiny after 8 years of uploads.
@eric-nd9yy
@eric-nd9yy Жыл бұрын
he remind me of Joe Rogan
@ChaoticNeutralMatt
@ChaoticNeutralMatt Жыл бұрын
So the thing is, he could just ignore the 'theft', and move on with his life. Well obviously it bothers him quite a bit, but processing this emotionally seems more important than anything else. I'm not sure he can get a satisfactory outcome
@ephasm
@ephasm Жыл бұрын
Hey guys. I'm a personal friend of moudis, I've played with him since TBC, and have been guildies with him the entire time. I can't stress how nice and polite a guy Moudi is, and it would take a lot for him to make any kind of accusation. He's so anti drama it's crazy for me to watch this. That said, I know firsthand what work he puts into his content and website. Those in the know, know exactly who Moudi is. Obviously I'm biased on this subject, but having watched moudis video and looking at his examples, he's 100% in the right here. It genuinely baffles me why people are taking the other dudes side on this 😅
@nine9nine9
@nine9nine9 Жыл бұрын
They don't like to listen
@TheSket
@TheSket 3 ай бұрын
Because he did himself a disservice in the first quarter of the video. He made a significant number of assertions over too long a period of time that it came across initially as some guy accusing someone of BS. He may be right but the video itself was not formatted particularly well
@FinalReKK
@FinalReKK Жыл бұрын
I liked the part when Asmon nitpicked his way through the intro as if every piece of compounding evidence was supposed to be an argument standing on its own. Bro polarized himself in the intro paragraph. Really got me hooked.
@despain8726
@despain8726 Жыл бұрын
Its clear Asmon is a react god
@bryandmgz
@bryandmgz Жыл бұрын
I hate react content, but I’ve been watching Asmon for years way before any of this react trend and I think he’s a cool dude so I don’t mind :)
@benjamindurand8254
@benjamindurand8254 Жыл бұрын
He was doing this before the trend actually started. The ones that went this route( we all know them) just did it while eating, not talking, and even going to run errands while the video plays. Lol
@Syphirioth
@Syphirioth Жыл бұрын
Trying to be able to see different perspectives yet stay objective is a valuable thing.
@t19890204
@t19890204 Жыл бұрын
Thats because most of the react content are fake overreaction lol. Asmon just shit on it if he have to. @@bryandmgz
@vibincrusader
@vibincrusader Жыл бұрын
other "reactor" are just watcher
@JereBowl
@JereBowl Жыл бұрын
I was gonna put this on and fade off to sleep, but now I'm 47mins in and invested in finding out how it ends 😂
@0gopko
@0gopko Жыл бұрын
watched this live, i haven't laughed this hard in a while
@realchickennuggs
@realchickennuggs Жыл бұрын
i started laughing my ass off when he started showing clips on his phone like it was a found footage film and all you could hear was banging sounds in the background
@anxiety_fitness
@anxiety_fitness 2 ай бұрын
When you get banned from AdSense, KZbin can still run ads on your channel, it just means that you don't get to monetize from it. KZbin can run ads on any channel they want and they don't have to pay you. My AdSense account was deactivated 1 week after joining YPP, (Unjustly, partner manager fixed it later) and it's atrocious. Commenters were saying they were seeing mid-roll ads on my Guided Meditation videos even though I was banned. I purposely don't put mid-roll ads on those videos. Many others say the same.
@Merivio
@Merivio Жыл бұрын
42:50 As an indie dev who has done this as well, I suspect this kind of leading streamers is common practice (purely for the sake of finding bugs), and a natural consequence of there never being enough playtesting done.
@erlend2865
@erlend2865 Жыл бұрын
The fact that he was bad at presenting his point only made this better, what a ride, went back and forth like 5 times! This video is pure greatness
@diggerdog9205
@diggerdog9205 Жыл бұрын
I dressed as Asmongold for Halloween and handed out 2 dollar steaks to all the kids for trick or treat
@cursedimageseveryday5559
@cursedimageseveryday5559 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss... (hair)
@GazerPlur420
@GazerPlur420 Жыл бұрын
It's not Halloween yet, so hold that L.
@PizzaPatroll
@PizzaPatroll Жыл бұрын
Next year I should be the totinos pizza and my husband can be the spider web.
@mochabearry
@mochabearry Жыл бұрын
@@GazerPlur420Some towns have Trick or Treating on the weekend before if Halloween is on a weekday, because of it being on a school night. Take that fuckin L.
@GazerPlur420
@GazerPlur420 Жыл бұрын
@@mochabearry Miss me with that L. Trick or Treating is done on Halloween school or not.
@WartimeConsigliere
@WartimeConsigliere Жыл бұрын
The best part about MrRatface and the Schitzo guy's rants is a dev admitted they manipulate the PTR streamers to test things. Why waste resources when you can get the labor for free. Gaming Illuminati stays winning
@alfanan123
@alfanan123 Жыл бұрын
​@@MichaelLodastealing is morally wrong.. but I guess that's subjective as well nowadays.
@R2D242D
@R2D242D Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelLoda you are all over here pushing your lies....what's up with that?
@R2D242D
@R2D242D Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelLoda if you watched to the end then you saw the vote. Lol keep trying.
@Demibrot
@Demibrot Жыл бұрын
@@R2D242D I mean there are more things speaking against MrGM than for him. Like his body language, him not even directly denying the stealing, him not showing that he had prior conversations were moudi allegedly insulted him etc. . Additionally MichealLoda is sus for spamming his support for MrGM under several comments without bringing any arguments. But the vote at the end of the video doesn't prove anything, it simply reflects where Asmon's viewers lean after watching Moudi's video. You don't create evidence of someone's guilt by majority voting it into existence.
@lircox
@lircox Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelLoda did you miss the part where Asmongold said there were at least two indusputable pieces of evidence damning MrRat
@don_tilt
@don_tilt 9 ай бұрын
It would be so awesome if he does an "investigation" or analysis type of Video more often with a poll at the end. I love it and it's so hillarious xD
@polarbare80
@polarbare80 11 ай бұрын
Around 50min in it seemed like MrGM was trolling Moudi purposefully
@Chris-qh5tz
@Chris-qh5tz Жыл бұрын
I love how in the beginning of the video Asmon has this strong prejudice against Moudie but as the video goes on you can see him slowly realizing Moudie might be right.
@ramendude4062
@ramendude4062 Жыл бұрын
Gaving bad arguments =/= prejudice.
@MichaelLoda
@MichaelLoda Жыл бұрын
Are we watching the same videos? Where did he realise Moudie might be right? Moudi is entirely wrong here
@guidoagustincolombo3921
@guidoagustincolombo3921 Жыл бұрын
@@ramendude4062 literally responding to every sentence the guy was saying, and even trying to dismember logic things Asmon even says like when talking about how people that like one creator normaly stand for that creator and calling that a "bad argument" when he preaches it too. So, yes, prejudice. "I dont make money from ads on youtube" BuT YoU MaKe MoNeY oN YoUr PaGe!!!! No one going to a wow page to see drama, only the guides, so, this video has no ads and wins 0 dollars if 1 or 300 million people see it, but was a bad argument it seems.
@Chris-qh5tz
@Chris-qh5tz Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelLoda In the video Asmon clearly does not like Moudie to start the video and begins with skepticism but after Moudie presents some evidence, even though Asmon doesn't agree with all of it he agrees that some of it is valid. The two being 1. Why go out of your way to edit a screenshot to remove Moudie from the picture and 2. Why claim you don't even know him? Then go out of your way to do that? This proves MrGM is a little shady. I think it's weird to go as far as to photoshop someone out of that picture and then claim you don't know him to others. Asmon also says that Moudie gives off a schizto persona so it's hard to believe him but his arguments are actually valid. The other dude also just looks guilty and is a proven liar. I feel like if the case was the same but the personalities of Moudie and MrGM were switched, Asmon would 100% agree with Moudie.
@jrpgnation6375
@jrpgnation6375 Жыл бұрын
​@@MichaelLodaare you blind?
@dausciklas7537
@dausciklas7537 Жыл бұрын
it's pretty obvious in a sus feeling way that there's some weird behavior on MrGMs side. And the copying of the coords is so very close to identical that it might as well be touching tips with a pencil in between the tips. of course there's still some evidence that needs to be compiled before throwing the hammer at him. but it seems the majority from the vote is weighing heavily on Moudi being right. I feel this will not be the last we hear or see of this.
@DarthRambo007
@DarthRambo007 9 ай бұрын
if mrgm ISplaying wow all day every day when does heget time to investigate and make the guides ? 1.he is either searching wow head (they cant be that fast cause creators will find and post or tweet about it first ) 2.he has a team that makes if for him and all he does is recites it (They may also get from moudi and other creators ) 2.he gets it from moudi and changes a few things
@cilantro_4839
@cilantro_4839 9 ай бұрын
@@DarthRambo007 Well thats plagiarism. He should've credited him. It doesn't matter how busy someone is. They still need to do their due dilligence.
@FREDERICKEUSEBIO-d3q
@FREDERICKEUSEBIO-d3q Жыл бұрын
This was a wild ride. I completely flipped sides about halfway through. Absolutely scumbag behavior.
@badanhus
@badanhus Жыл бұрын
This. I really dislike any content creator that have such close ties with Blizzard. You know, the usual suspects.
@MrTmm97
@MrTmm97 Жыл бұрын
I play Destiny 2 and when say a new exotic, secret mission, farming strategy for the current event (Halloween event for example.) Usually within hours of the event occurring/beginning 3/4 of the Destiny 2 content creators will all release guides that almost exactly the same… I think this is mainly because the steps in the process are the same. Once in awhile they will shout each other out and/or link their channel in the description of the videos. I’m not saying I believe either side is right or wrong… I do think there we’re definitely some suspicious points he made…however I feel the nature of “guides” almost guarantee that content arising from a given problem/event/activity will inherently be extremely similar because the steps to complete whatever it is will either identical or extremely similar. Despite their content being near identical most of the times for any kind of guide material, I’ve never heard any of the accuse each other of plagiarism. My point in saying all that is I feel there needs to be serious specific examples where one content creator is using some method completely unknown to the community or not guide type content (entertainment for example…not instructional) for it to even be considered possibly plagiarized. It also needs to be a pattern. This whole point he’s trying to make is next to impossible to prove to a point where action can be taken regarding it. 1:21:30 I also think blaming Blizzard for not taking action regarding something that isn’t necessary their responsibility to address is an easy way to undermine your position and make yourself the enemy/bad guy. It’s as if he took all his anger towards the content creator out on Blizzard and it was wrong to do. It may be you felt wronged but in the content creator position … you have to learn to deal with people “copying” content or insulting you and turn the other cheek. Getting caught up in the drama is only ganna hurt your career and mental health. You should simply continue making your own content better and improving it. Eventually if your content is better the public would vote with their view time.
@CH-es1ri
@CH-es1ri 9 ай бұрын
ive definitely had unhinged people completely detached from reality harass me with the same energy moudi has. if he didnt present as a crackhead and showed more definitive proof itd be a grand slam against mr gm
@Underournorthernstar
@Underournorthernstar Жыл бұрын
Have to feel kinda bad that he putting in hours ans hours of work for some bigger creator to just pretend hes figuring it all out in 20 minutes when hes really just used somebody elses hard work. I fully believe hes doing that and as sad as it is what can you even do. If he complains hes just seen as a whiner and if he doesnt hes getting no credit for his hard work. Dunno on this one tbh.
@jeremyjoyner9796
@jeremyjoyner9796 Жыл бұрын
I think his emotions made him less rational. He could’ve definitely exposed the truth by either showing DMs or setting up something very small and insignificant but unique in his guide as a trap and wait for it to get copied.
@shefalichow7917
@shefalichow7917 Жыл бұрын
The problem isn't Moudi. It's society, for being a place where a true victim is called a whiner; you know, the same place where people get called snitches for pointing out others doing the wrong thing. We used to call those people heroes.
@ic8789
@ic8789 5 ай бұрын
It'd be one thing if he gave moudi credit, hyped him up for doing good work, and linked his shit. A lot of KZbin grifters like this exist for PoE as well. I was on team Moudi within the first few minutes.
@Maximus213
@Maximus213 Жыл бұрын
THE TWISTS, THE TURNS, THE DRAMA
@RetireandGo
@RetireandGo Жыл бұрын
The anime adaptation of this story is coming out in 2024
@iemzaf
@iemzaf Жыл бұрын
With how interesting this went, I now dub this video "Autistic Investigations" and I also hereby request for more of these types of content.
@gabrielmora6144
@gabrielmora6144 10 ай бұрын
This is my honest opinion: 1. Moudi and MrGM operate in the same space, so they are bound to make the same content as the same info gets fed to both of them at the same time. 2. Moudi posts faster than MrGM, so he starts getting tilted everytime MrGM tails his content. 3. Moudi malds at MrGM and tells him to stop 4. MrGM malds at what he thinks is a ridiculous accusation and decides to begin trolling Moudi 5. MrGM makes fun of Moudi on stream, subtweets him... KEY: He starts going onto Moudi's site and STARTS to copy shit verbatim from the site to repeat it in his own content to troll Moudi. This explains why he has a shit-eating grin every time he copies Moudi explicitly. 6. Moudi malds out and cusses him out on discord directly, eventually leading to this video. I think Moudi schizoed out on MrGM, and MrGM responded by psychotically confirming Moudi's suspicions by trolling him and starting to actually copy his content, making it look like Moudi was right all along.
@its_foi
@its_foi 9 ай бұрын
It was about 20 minutes for us to see Moudi to prove that he is right. He got too emotional delivering during 10 mins introductions.
@LinkinParkConnoisseur
@LinkinParkConnoisseur Жыл бұрын
Watched it live. This was so entertaining to watch, especially asmon becoming a detective.
@Tzhz
@Tzhz Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a Coffeezilla video about stealing content, and the easiest way to find out if it was true was to create fake content and see if they take the bait.
@alfred9805
@alfred9805 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Dillon Danis video, but this guy is tilted to the earth and not very bright so he can't come up with a good plan like this
@xLoneWolf22x
@xLoneWolf22x 10 ай бұрын
@@alfred9805unless this is all part of his plan to make MrGM think he has no evidence. So that GM doubles down. Then when he does. He shows the evidence which will destroy him even more. ITS ALL APART OF THE PLAN
@gloomsdoom649
@gloomsdoom649 8 ай бұрын
It’s not that he’s stupid, it’s that he actually cares about making real content for his viewers.
@nicklasveva
@nicklasveva 6 ай бұрын
The problem is that MrGM probably knows what he is doing, and would try out methods before posting. Doing numbers and stuff is kinda different though, that is easily used to fool a plagiarizer.
@Malix2238
@Malix2238 Жыл бұрын
This video felt like a conspiracy theory that might actually be true.
@everythingpony
@everythingpony Жыл бұрын
Because it is
@WBsteve
@WBsteve Жыл бұрын
@@everythingpony dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
@fallinggravity9964
@fallinggravity9964 Жыл бұрын
The tragic part of this is he is doing such a terrible job at proving this. He makes it so hard to follow when he is mixing proof, hearsay, and baseless accusations. I am still on the fence if its true, conspiracy, or him being schizo/paranoid.
@DwarfenForger
@DwarfenForger Жыл бұрын
The southcal lady killer
@drageras
@drageras Жыл бұрын
​@@fallinggravity9964it's even worse imo if you consider he's a PHD in STEM, he should easily be able to break apart the facts from his feelings here and make a breakdown of the events citing specific evidence for each one. If he had done an experiment before coming out with this as well with fake information he could have proved it as well.
@DaddaPsy
@DaddaPsy 8 ай бұрын
A part 2 has been up for a month now =)
@LittleCthulhuOne
@LittleCthulhuOne 11 ай бұрын
This shows a point that i learned irl that even if you are right, the way that you address and behave when you have prof and solid arguments, can make you look like the person in the wrong. If he didnt send those Twitter comments losing his mind and petty insults, just showed evidence instead of using his emotions then a lot more people would be on his side.
@Eepistoo
@Eepistoo 11 ай бұрын
if you have ability to analyze it deeper, you can see where the emotions come from. Ofc presentation matters, but i always try to think what makes one emotionally unstable and include it to whole picture.
@ObiJakobe
@ObiJakobe Жыл бұрын
I didn't believe it until I saw him stealing word for word bar for bar in stream chatting
@apenguingames4305
@apenguingames4305 5 ай бұрын
Or releasing a video guide with waypoints that are manually placed on the map traditionally, and they are exactly the same down to the micrometer
@jojogodtier
@jojogodtier Жыл бұрын
To be fair if he is telling the truth. I would be pissed too if I spent countless hours just for someone to take all my credit and easily get views. If he is telling the truth. Then again it is free market but I understand his frustration.
@grilledleeks6514
@grilledleeks6514 Жыл бұрын
You don't know what free market means lol
@Cloud7050
@Cloud7050 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the frustration has clearly been building up for months.
@willischwabe1324
@willischwabe1324 7 ай бұрын
The sad thing is, without justice people like Moudi, who do all the work for the community for free will quit doing it. MrGM is not just hurting Moudi unneccessarily for his personal gain, but is profiting at the expense of the whole community like a parasite.
@vondoodle4325
@vondoodle4325 Жыл бұрын
plot twist this guy actually owns both youtube channels and is creating the drama among himself for content
@PizzaPatroll
@PizzaPatroll Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even be mad if in fact they both are in cahoots. This was honestly really entertaining. 😂
@ephasm
@ephasm Жыл бұрын
As someone who knows moudi personally this cracked me up 😂
@xLoneWolf22x
@xLoneWolf22x 10 ай бұрын
@@ephasmtell him to post evidence then. This was an entertaining video to watch but he seems to actually care about this. So if he actually cares about the outcome and hasn’t shown evidence. ESPECIALLY as a scientist, then I believe he is just saying bullshit things with some truth sprinkled on top
@ephasm
@ephasm 10 ай бұрын
@@xLoneWolf22x I've actually not spoken with him since this all happened. I mean you can believe whatever you want, it doesn't bother me one iota, and i gotta be honest, I doubt Moudi cares as well. I suspect this is more to get his side of the story heard than convince a jury.
@xLoneWolf22x
@xLoneWolf22x 10 ай бұрын
@@ephasm if he didn’t care we wouldn’t be here. I’m just saying a helpful thing that you should probably tell your friend so it helps him keep his hobby fun and successful
@Ouroboros2343
@Ouroboros2343 11 ай бұрын
I would check the times whenever Mr.G’s guides used coordinates does Moodi’s guide also use them? As in is there a pattern of usage of waypoints vs no waypoints in guides they release (as well who released guides first)? Pretty sure those 2 datapoints will shine a ton of light on this.
@f.r8580
@f.r8580 7 ай бұрын
These two arguing on allcraft with with asmon and esfand as moderators would have been fucking lit
@drscott7359
@drscott7359 Жыл бұрын
One thing he did have proof of was his name edited out and that’s a petty move to erase a name!
@Jiub_SN
@Jiub_SN 9 ай бұрын
He proved a good hit more, asmon missed some in the back and forth segment
@Exilum
@Exilum Жыл бұрын
I never played WoW once in my life but damn was this entertaining. I smiled and laughed a lot. Honestly if I actually watched WoW content of this kind I'd probably take Moudi's side. The thing is, everything else could maybe be passed off as a coincidence, but the deleting of the name combined with the coped waypoints? It shows there's at least been one isolated incident, and that's after he had cause for concern in the first place. So going by hard evidence alone, you'd reasonably expect there to have been at least 2 isolated incidents.
@TantalusOfLydia
@TantalusOfLydia Жыл бұрын
"Why does he have any obligation to listen to you?" as a fellow autist my mind is thinking "Because I am providing his content for him!"
@TantalusOfLydia
@TantalusOfLydia Жыл бұрын
10 minutes in and we're just starting the story!
@TantalusOfLydia
@TantalusOfLydia Жыл бұрын
and 26 minutes in the plot thickens, reminiscent of Dickens
@uwub3r787
@uwub3r787 Жыл бұрын
rollercoaster!
@TantalusOfLydia
@TantalusOfLydia Жыл бұрын
about an hour in and I'm likin Moudi and thinkin this MrGM guy has an obligation to listen to Moudi!
@TantalusOfLydia
@TantalusOfLydia Жыл бұрын
oh, there's still 30 more minutes!
@reesem6411
@reesem6411 11 ай бұрын
i dont think asmon understands when MRGM said he doesnt know who moudi is, its a common insult, he didnt actually mean he didnt know who he is.
@TOMHICHIBAN
@TOMHICHIBAN 10 ай бұрын
This is unfortunately not as uncommon as you think
@Korrath
@Korrath Жыл бұрын
This was hilarious to watch live. It just kept spiraling further and further down. 😅
@Malix2238
@Malix2238 Жыл бұрын
ngl when i tuned into asmongold today, i wasn't expecting to be gifted with this gem of a react.
@laffingist218
@laffingist218 Жыл бұрын
he doesn't say at that point in the video that he "doesn't make any money", he says he's banned from ads on youtube.
@ellescer
@ellescer Жыл бұрын
He’s says “this isn’t about money”
@johnwarner4178
@johnwarner4178 Жыл бұрын
@@ellesceranytime someone says it isn’t about the money… it’s about the money
@Kratos-eg7ez
@Kratos-eg7ez Жыл бұрын
​​​​@@johnwarner4178 fr it's so dumb. Hes mad because a bigger content creator is copying his content and not sending any views his way, that's it. "oh it's immoral 😭" does anyone believe he really cares about that? He cares about how well his channel does, and someone copying his content and doing it better makes him furious. If he was honest and said, "yeah man these are ideas I came up with so I could make a little bit of money, n this bigger content creator is taking money that could be in my wallet" I'd have atleast had some respect for him for being honest. But people aren't going to his channel because of a multitude of reasons, if he's making the content first surely they'd go watch him right?! Except they don't, they go watch the other guy because they think his content is good/better. Ain't it funny there's one million Mr beast clones yet Mr beast still is the biggest? Not a great example since Mr beast does it first n doesn't copy anyone, but I think my point still gets across. If this dude really wants more viewers and for people to like him, MAKE BETTER CONTENT! And if you truly believe your content is the best it could be, maybe people don't not like the content maybe they just don't like you. Idk I don't think people copying ideas is stealing anyone's content, stealing content is reuploading the same video without the creators permission. I will say I think it's scummy to copy someone's ideas every video, but that's about it. I don't think it's wrong, I don't think he needs to apologize or anything, but it can be scummy. But I mean again, if he's making the content first people should be watching his no? Maybe make your videos better or more enjoyable, or change the way you act to be more appealing to people. All video content creation is a rat race, and whoever is the nicest rat is who most people will support, even if another rat is faster. I have people I've been watching for over 10 years, I'm sure theyve taken video ideas from other people but I don't care, they're funny n I like watching them the most. Doesn't matter if someone else did the same thing first if I don't like their video/content or the person themselves. Even if they're just mediocre or decent I'll still watch the person I like
@dyland5275
@dyland5275 Жыл бұрын
@@Kratos-eg7ez ​ It sounds like you are telling the person getting robbed to just "do better" so that the thief does less damage to them. Why not condemn the thief? If MrGM is truly copying his content as you said and not crediting Moudi for his days of work, Moudi is the victim here. Additionally, what is the point of Moudi making better content if it only serves to benefit the person stealing from him? Just because someone is funny does not mean their actions are justified, especially when these actions harm others for their own benefit.
@LL-bh6pr
@LL-bh6pr Жыл бұрын
​@@johnwarner4178not true, often it can be because it's not just about the money but that it's past that point. It's about more than just the money now, meaning it's to the point where it's not just about the money anymore.
@daneyulesan
@daneyulesan Жыл бұрын
you laughing at 50:50 has killed me lmfaooo
@Crow4o
@Crow4o 10 ай бұрын
"Imagine a rain station says to another, you can't say it's gonna rain in Thursday!" I almost had a heart attack from laughter. 😂😂🤣
@Eilavamp
@Eilavamp Жыл бұрын
So glad I was here to see this live lmao, I can't believe the turnaround on posting this to youtube though, awesome job editors!
@Bassalicious
@Bassalicious Жыл бұрын
I had no idea I needed some bad drama around a game I never played. this is so good :D
@flinxsl
@flinxsl Жыл бұрын
I am also a scientist and know this guys' type well. Many of us are good at thinking about the technical aspect of the science itself, but lack the self awareness to realize that the reasoning we assign to other people in social situations might not be correct. In science having a dialectic conversation has the purpose of establishing truth. In casual things like playing world of warcraft, there are many paths that don't need to all end at the same place.
@ephasm
@ephasm Жыл бұрын
Thank you mate! I was wondering why people can't follow moudis logic, but I'm autistic as well so I think like this to begin with.
@johnkuhn8718
@johnkuhn8718 7 ай бұрын
This came on in the background while I was gaming... I just wanna say this Mouti guy sounds so much like fucking Mr Popo, that's how I've been picturing in my mind this whole time
@omreee686
@omreee686 Жыл бұрын
Moudi is a scientist, so he's thinking about this as though somebody is plagiarizing his research. Regardless of whether MrGM's behavior is ok in WoW farming guides or not, it is completely and obviously unacceptable in scientific research. You can't say "I heard a rumor" when someone already published that information. If this was science and not WoW, what Moudi has presented in this video would seriously damage or even end MrGM's career.
@denniswolf8685
@denniswolf8685 Жыл бұрын
The biggest thing not being talked about here is the role of the viewers. Thry are both PTR creators so they have the same audience. So if someone finds it first it's usually the viewers telling the other what's happening and where and how, without always telling how they know it. It's something I have done personally multiple times even between these 2 creators. Without realizing their "beef". It's just how knowledge works. Someone finds something out tels their audience. And their audience tells other people and at some point the point of origin is lost.
@iPanicyt
@iPanicyt Жыл бұрын
Then maybe he should stop saying he found stuff and Then later when he cant find the vendor he supposedly discovered he says he Saw a tweet. It’s always a “tweet”
@harnageaa
@harnageaa Жыл бұрын
bro he only is mad because Mr Gm keep saying stuff like: "I discovered, I found, I heard a rumor, hey guys but what about 'x'....". Instead of saying: "hey guys did anyone read latest mudi post he made on his website? Let's pull his page and check this COOL shit out right now on stream. He doesn't wanna do that cuz a percentage of his viewers would convert into 100% Mudi's fans and stop watching him cuz those fans would be hardcore fans that wanna know the info as fast as possible. he could do a fair 'collab' like asmon does, you react to something, you give credit. Doesn't matter, if even 1% goes to the original post it's a win.
@denniswolf8685
@denniswolf8685 Жыл бұрын
@@iPanicyt yeah you know how many tweets there are about stuff on the ptr. I also see the tweets he talk about.
@veryvishas9904
@veryvishas9904 Жыл бұрын
"This is the stupidest shit ever." "Yes it is, that's why it deserves my full attention." 10/10
@hollow8194
@hollow8194 Жыл бұрын
I never played wow, I've never seen a video of wow, yet this is the most interesting piece of media I've yet to watch.
@getcake8680
@getcake8680 11 ай бұрын
I feel really sorry for him, I assume he has no reason to lie so he didn't. I personally cannot deal with injustice like this. I'd feel the same as he does probably
@DexLuther
@DexLuther Жыл бұрын
42:57 It's funny, but devs do this from time to time. Hell I was a game tester for 10 years, and did this kind of thing during betas. When a game came out that I worked on, I especially liked looking up streams of people playing it. Watching people enjoy something when you took part in its creation gives you a sense of pride. I assume movie stars used to feel like this too. Now they just tell you that you better like it or you're a bad person. I especially liked giving streamers tips or tricks for certain things. Usually, things we used ourselves in testing. Some times, if I especially liked the streamer, I'd even tell them about bugs that I knew hadn't been fixed yet. Usually because I reported it myself and/or new because we were actually testing the fix of it for a future patch (by the time a game releases, we're already working on patch 2 or 3 because of how certification works). I'd especially share the bugs that had funny results and warned of those that could result in a crash or getting stuck so they could avoid it.
@BillSwe
@BillSwe Жыл бұрын
this is a tough one. I think its highly likely mrgm "stole" some of his work but its also "moody's" fault for handling it the way he has... also the blizzard rep mishandled it badly, very badly and it raises suspicions about the integrity of the blizzard Rep.
@longplaysofevil
@longplaysofevil Жыл бұрын
Wait did you just fill the missing teeth slot in the thumbnail? lmao
@mike4088
@mike4088 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@EddiXP
@EddiXP Жыл бұрын
That editor goood 😂
@TheMrFrohman
@TheMrFrohman Жыл бұрын
Thought he got it fixed a while back, but could be wrong
@RetireandGo
@RetireandGo Жыл бұрын
Simulation confirmed ! We are in the matrix !
@XenonArcher
@XenonArcher Жыл бұрын
@@TheMrFrohman you can see its still missing in this video
@mauricioc.1481
@mauricioc.1481 Жыл бұрын
Only 3 real proof's are presented: 25:00 - I dont know Moudi. 45:00 - Remove Moudi from the list. 52:00 - Copy his contend using the similar words, in the same order. Bonus - 50:30 the look of the guilty. Oh boy this gona be good.
@ethanwintersseveredhand
@ethanwintersseveredhand Жыл бұрын
Blizzard is like a very abusive school environment
@Trueo9re
@Trueo9re Жыл бұрын
It's upsetting when you've spent months on a guide and then some plonker comes along and steals it in 5 days.
@VentusXtm
@VentusXtm Жыл бұрын
"We're not going to watch a 30 minute video" Proceeds to watch the whole thing And i just watched 1 hour 30 min commentary It was awesome lol
@MaxReigis
@MaxReigis Жыл бұрын
Everyone thought the teacher from The Incredibles was wrong and was just a crazy person, and look how that panned out...
@AR45H
@AR45H Жыл бұрын
He put it so succinctly: This has improved my mood substantially
@Adelaide_Cuthbert
@Adelaide_Cuthbert 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I just diagree with this. I'm a completionist/trophy hunter, so usually when I'm doing a second or third playthrough for cleanup, I look up guides to help me out (usually for hard to find collectables, or advice/tips on a difficult trophy). There are two instances where I found guides extremely unhelpful and even frustrating and really wanted to make my own, better more fleshed out guides. One instance was for Lost Ember, an Indie title that has huge levels that you have to comb carefully sometimes for the collectables. And the guide was just poorly written for one of these collectables were, saying it was by a tree near the end of the level and that's it. ☠️ There were LOTS of trees in that level; it was just extremely unhelpful and I ended up watching a KZbin video instead. The other example was for Black Desert Online, for this side quest about a hidden cave. And I thought I found it by myself without a guide, the place I found had the exact same name as the quest indicated and I was confused that it wasn't progressing. So I looked up to see if the quest was glitched, or if I had the wrong place. And every "guide" or comment said the same thing: that cave was it and there are no known bugs with the quest. I was thinking I might have to restart on a different character or something. But after, I kid you not, HOURS of searching, I finally found a KZbin video showing a different hidden cave PRETTY DAMN CLOSE behind a waterfall, and eureka, it was what I needed. The video had few likes, and if I remember correctly, no comments. It was not common knowledge, and it seemed extremely hard to dig up from the internet, and I really felt like more attention needed to be brought to it. I have always thought to myself to go back to games I've completed and make my own guides on them, as I usually have to use multiple sources for one thing and it can get tedious. I don't think taking inspiration and using info from other sources to create a better, more cohesive guide or collection of info or gameplay is wrong or stealing. I don't think another person who made a guide needs credited over a game that they had no part in making. Like, are any guide-makers crediting the level designers of the games they're using for clout? I can't recall a single instance of that happening, so I just find this really entitled and hypocritical.
@AlexSomers-d2n
@AlexSomers-d2n 9 ай бұрын
This guy is surprisingly likable for someone that is so stubborn.
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