Griefing the gankers with a melee FDL | Classic Elite Dangerous PVP

Originally aired in 2018, this plasma ramming guide & demo highlights a brutally effective tactic that unlocks when you can identify and control your vector relative to a target using thrusters and the lead targeting reticle. Ship build here: s.orbis.zone/m_85
PART 2 HERE: • Griefing the gankers w...

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

PART TWO HERE! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIa3n6yKn5eYb5osi=dviyNfb-KYReYidD

[@Mr.Spongecake]

I like to imagine your character in the cockpit just has a massive padded styrofoam bowl with two small eye-holes drilled into it on his head when he pilots this ship.

[@Yotta_Guns]

The 900k bounty at the end felt cathartic to see. You know that guy had been generally upsetting people. Only thing this vid is missing is the salty tears of the ganker douchbags.

[@Say-ro4rq]

People are little girls in this game lmao imma have to play it and make people cry 🤣

[@mikeenslin3009]

Calling other people douchebags or salty because they do pvp, seems about right.

[@81DocSem]

I saw a lot of combat videos but man, it's the first time I really like it. Appreciate very much the explanations and the slow motions during the hits! Well done, really o7 I guess you forgot the Coriolis/Edsy build in the description, I'm curious to see the PA engineering.

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

Thanks for the reminder; I've updated the description to include a link to this build. The PAs here are all grade 5 efficient with a mix of target lock breaker, dazzle, and dispersal as the added effects.

[@Lupinicus1664]

I agree, excellent instructions and use of slow-mo, thank you. I'm a long time player but still ropey at PvP. This kind of clear instruction really helps.

[@DarthWall275]

A bit old for PVP aren't you? By my estimation, anyone who's had an account for over 14 years must be at least 26, but probably 30 (!) maybe you should focus on something more age appropriate and suitable for your reflexes, like mining 😂

[@81DocSem]

@@DarthWall275 your estimation is an absolute nonsense.

[@DarthWall275]

@@81DocSem Oh?

[@spartanFox_LadyFoxGames]

Lancing duels in the lance how appropriate

[@somerandomyoutubechannel5816]

I play this game to explore. I had someone take me out after going to both the furthest system reachable past Beagle Point and also the uppermost system reachable with a normal ship above the galaxy. Hundreds of systems found and mapped. I took my time and found a couple of really incredible systems while out. I made the mistake of coming back to the bubble in open. Paid for it instantly. They took me out with no shields and weapons in seconds. I no longer play in open. If it wasn't for solo mode, I would have stopped playing the game entirely. People who have fun destroying others with no actual desire of a fair fight are not playing a game. They are taking something personal out on strangers. I deal with enough road rage in my actual life that I don't need to deal with it in a game. But, I am glad to see a video like this. What you are doing here makes me happy.

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

o7

[@donnysheldon5835]

Back when I used to play this game, I would always play in open because I enjoyed the idea that you don't know what other players are going to do.

[@OldManPaxusYT]

same... i find the whole notion of playing in Solo, ridiculous. I feel for ppl who get ganked and I agree, many of those gankers take it beyond realism...but still, what is the point of playing, at all, if there is ZERO RISK??? @@donnysheldon5835

[@leemills6825]

ouch, i feel for ya man as much as i can without ever being in open with more than a few mill in bounties or cargo, its why they call it...dangerous >< its only not dangerous when your fucking rich i guess =D hunting & the hunted i can live with its when mechanics are abused such as station suciding & other exploits

[@Reaver-Altar]

When I used to play Elite I would play in Open almost exclusively, except when I was exploring. If getting killed didn't delete all your data then I wouldn't care, but the game punishes explorers way too harshly for dying, even if it's just at the hands of a troll. An exploration ship is woefully underequipped for PvP, unless you're using an Anaconda. There's literally 0 risk to a ganker if he goes after an exploration ship so I can't really blame players for mitigating the risk.

[@Prodagist]

Im most impressed by your ability to manage your Power distributor nodes so well, youre ability to put them all into thrust and then immediately all into sheilds instantly before a collision is so impressive to me, maybe I just suck at managing them, but even with convenient keybinds set up on my Joystick and throttle that can be activated in an instance, I can hardly even manipulate them much in the heat of combat, let alone this instantaneously

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

With lots of practice at situational awareness, pip mgmt starts feeling natural. I don't even min/max it; there are even quicker ways to manage it that most serious PVPers use: pip macros that automatically dump pips into prearanged patterns. I'm manually moving them using a hat switch on top of the stick.

[@NeonLightedDreams]

3:26 took him down from 75% hull down to 8%, now that was an impressive hit to watch!

[@lonelee5353]

first time i seen an elite dangerous video and said "bro this guy cracked as hell"

[@jonanamar8503]

Elite Dangerous still has the best space combat by far👍

[@Yotta_Guns]

The flight model is unmatched, truly. It can't die as long as that's true.

[@empyrean-jamelgreaves8034]

It has the best everything

[@philippark587]

@@empyrean-jamelgreaves8034 "material grinding" "Engineering"

[@gr_egg]

the flight model in incomparably better in star citizen unfortunately, that's what ultimately made me quit

[@empyrean-jamelgreaves8034]

@@gr_egg We must be playing different Star Citizens then, it's more comparable to Starfield than Elite lol are you being serious?

[@OldManPaxusYT]

O M f G ... i had NO IDEA that there a LEVELS.... and this is beyond ALL OF THEM... Holy ship!!!! Those skills and techniques, HALF of which i didn't even _understand!,_ are skills i will NEVER have! AMAZING!

[@catladygames_]

@@VlLEconsumer Good riddance, honestly, given your childish attitude. This is a sim, and real(istic, even in a space sim) fight isn't about sparky maneuvers that make kiddos go "wooooow". PS. Golf have much nuance too it - but definitely not for people with attention spam of a temperamental teenager too, for sure.

[@rollsroycetrent1000]

​@@catladygames_ So what?

[@spankyjeffro5320]

Cringe.

[@LazaYoyo]

i never imagined this is possible w a spaceship. Ty amazing with the slomoments

[@johnwiks2597]

Man, that ship is fast. Like the concept too, it's like a bumper car death battle with lasers. Def don't use the flight assist toggle enough for that lateral thrust boost, gonna practice it out.

[@fulgerion]

I love to see anti-ganker shenanigans like this. I always hated the FDL and never wanted to use it because it was a PvP ship, and I am too stupid for video games. But this is inspiring. I need to use this exact build as it is exactly my cup of tea. Even if I am terribad, I still want to use it just to send the message. And I agree. This is EXACTLY how to use the FDL properly.

[@exoticspeedefy7916]

"My roll is broken" Yeah right just an act by the looks of it because he couldn't escape

[@olegmakogon7447]

Awesome fights!

[@Zero_Some]

I really need to get into combat in ED

[@spartanFox_LadyFoxGames]

Very fun

[@leemills6825]

farm those millions then at the resource thingys >< i forget their name its been years but if you have loads of bounties stacked up from dead pirates or w/e to hand in i wouldnt do it in pvp mode, same with big trades if you go that way not at least till you've built up some in-game value at least, i dont want to get right to the end for some idiot to bounce off me and get me whacked by the station

[@leemills6825]

the time it took to write that comment you could of been a few minutes better at dog-fighting =D to learn you have to get hit so some say, so just warp into a busy system & am guessing you'll get hit quite a lot but some of the times you will get away some not thats why you build up creds for re buys because education in a dangerous place isnt free =D

[@epic_joker_specgaming4348]

bro what key binds do you have wep/sys/eng assigned to?

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

Hat switch on top of my stick (Thrustmaster T.16000 FCS). Shields left, engines up, weapons right. Not macro'd like most PVPers use, so it's a bit inefficient moving pips one at a time.

[@itisinickt]

wow you are good at flying

[@snozzmcberry2366]

I'm an absolute scrub baby when it comes to flying in this game, so seeing you swerve about and maneuver with this speed and agility is fucking insane.

[@jetpaq]

I approve of this method of retaliation!!!!!

[@AppleBiscuits]

melee combat in the 2500's, technology really is cyclical

[@raduoltean4468]

3:29 "that's a lot of damage"

[@empyrean-jamelgreaves8034]

Then there’s me never closer than 10,000ly to the nearest station 😂

[@damianmoran1512]

Nice dude most gankers are garbage anyways bet he probably quit after that

[@leemills6825]

yup, less than mediocre skilled compare to this guy & his vid, down to it its just bullying people from behind a wall of credits oh how boring that is by now oh so boring

[@joyhoward6105]

The name of the ship is based off the snake

[@solarisaint1]

What are they using to change the UI colors these days ?

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

I've used the same method since 2016. Open "C:\Users\*username*\AppData\Local\Frontier_Developments\Products\elite-dangerous-odyssey-64\GraphicsConfiguration.xml" in Notepad, scroll down a little to "GUIColour", "" and change the MatrixRed, MatrixGreen, and MatrixBlue numbers. My color's called Baron Blue (got it from a guide on the offical forums years ago): 0, 0.33, 0.75 0, 1, 0 1, 0, 0

[@Timberwolf69]

My recommendation would be EDHM.

[@Huckleberry.69]

None of these where true gankers, they didn't cut & run at the first sign they where loosing or call in their wing mates to make it an unfair fight. Good piloting though.

[@spankyjeffro5320]

Those are symptoms of gankers, not the act.

[@gho5tspartan26yt]

2:46 how are you so steady with FA off the whole time?

[@pavelpechacek3380]

That is some decent flying, just use NV so it is better visible at least for the video.

[@wavywatson4469]

Do you mind telling me what AI voice you are using?

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

I believe it's a stock voice you get with the game: Victor.

[@dudeistpriestman]

how does anyone manage to not use flight assist? when I take it off any move of my mouse just makes the ship wobble and makes me queasy as hell

[@mikeenslin3009]

Relative mouse

[@mr.highschoollocksmith6080]

Just love how i have to pause your video every 3 seconds because your trying to write a novel with your text, but only out it up for 2 seconds.

[@daoust06]

why do you have so many target breaker those effects are not stacking Thermal Conduit is just better especially in your case that you are able to be up close Short Range will be a better choice. and not having a module reinforcement package can be quite problematic.

[@isurika1116]

What do you mean tip of the lance ??? Dequoi tu parle jai laisse faire google translate la prochaime fois

[@spankyjeffro5320]

The tip or pointy bit of a lance, a lance is a spear.

[@snowghost70]

Fdl 101 with efficient PA's .

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

it's a classic

[@sonic-bb]

you need to teach me how to fight like this. Like i just want to explore but always gotta fight. I win some, lose some. but i'd like to win more

[@leemills6825]

in that case you want more of what i saw a few years ago, what this guy on YT somewhere can do to gankers in say...the biggest slowest trading ship you can buy, how he could easily or certainly made it look that way =D out manouver them & escape, which with a cargo bay full surely is considered the win.

[@leemills6825]

outgunned out engineered escaping is winning alot of the time my reasoning is the game was built with ganking in mind & the firm has shown not even a measrable amount of anything in ever changing these original rules =) looking at how easy (with practise im sure =) you can evade them in the biggest slowest thing space credits can buy then surely you can in most vessels, in the game they give the power to gank with one hand & in the other the power to evade,

[@sonic-bb]

I guess I can get pretty good at running lol

[@leemills6825]

@@sonic-bb if he can do it is only a matter of practice till you & i could right? =D is worth hunting down the vid it has in the title ED & gank(ing)(er)(ers) 4 or 5 years old maybe british accent im 90% sure, flying the big-big ship, i think its a fer-de-lance trying to gank him freighter so a flying french pirate then or something >< he even sees the attacker when he looks out the right side cockpit window is pretty dam cool vid

[@Say-ro4rq]

​@@sonic-bbdon't be a coward lol I ain't never seen a gaming community so afraid to play a game 🤣 have fun! Or play by yourself

BTV… FDL is better shield tank them hull tank, because has not much slots.

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

Correct! It's generally better to run engineered shield cell banks in the two class 4 slots and leave when shields are done. That plus switching out the hull to engineered lightweight give you 10-12 m/s better speed then this particular build.

[@andreramos3146]

Wing Massacre missions will provide a great boost on you credits and if you sit on a low res site you can almost afk it without a type 10

[@chipalino5488]

Wat u doing with cheaters ? I stoped playing ED cuz cheaters a many((

[@ordinaryman5070]

This is basically why I haven't done any pvp even though I've got close to 7000 hours.

[@mikeenslin3009]

@@ordinaryman5070ive been doing pvp since 2017, only encountered one cheater and it was hilarious, it wasn't even a proper fight. Not sure where you encounter all those cheaters...

[@egmont5044]

Just realized I wasn’t subbed!

[@cmdroldar]

its just a 5pa meta lance

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

yep

[@mikeenslin3009]

Yeah but putting something like "killing gankers" in the title never fails to get an amazing feedback from the community... Like it's just normal pvp in a meta lance lol

[@leemills6825]

counterganking =D ahaha like it, oh i can only imagine how grateful people are seeing their would be ganker dogfighting for their life, or pride then in this. do you ever get shot by mistake by the people you're helping? by friendly fire if they try to get revenge on your target =D glad to see some actions going on am even more tempted to d/l it again but ody kept crashing with this intel gpu horizons not a single crash for 3-4 months a handful of years ago, performance, leg missions ran okay too on low settings the thing would just crash no matter where or what in game

[@leemills6825]

how many people including myself wont be able to match your/their load outs right away & might take a while/a long while/f never to also match the skill level of yourself & the gankers, so show us what you can do to gankers without guns or combat vessels =D some of that annoy them but only to a point as they tire quickly if they know you can evade them all day & night long , let them have a ring & a half lul them into a flase sense =p you know just keep the guy...entertained...& let someone else jump in & light the fuckers up would be just as enjoyable

[@justinsmith8860]

Imma tell you now as a warning if you were to try to pull that on my Krait you would have lost after the first minute. Make sure you choose your opponents wisely like you did this time. There is no way you would have won against me.

[@spankyjeffro5320]

Post a video to prove it or shut up.

[@Paios]

cool RP, too bad its all made up. ganking is not as big an issue as videos like this make it out to be. every cmdr I run into simply o7's and continues on their way... Been playing since 2015. (in open play 100% of the time)

[@thememery767]

too many people are saying that shit is staged with absolutely nothing backing up their claim

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

Did you ever get involved in active player groups that focused on PVP? There was a glorious golden age of Elite around the times of these videos (2017-2020) where lots of organic PVP happened at community goals and founders world between lawful groups like SPEAR, AA, 13th Legion, etc and criminals/gankers like SDC, Nomads and The Code along with plenty of random wing fighting and 1v1s among everyone in a constant battle to see who the best are and who just talk a good game. These three fights were during a period where I was being actively hunted by several groups (long story), so I was taking the fight to them when I could isolate them. As for right now in 2023, yeah...there isn't as much threat from gankers anymore. All but the most dedicated like Andy Polaris (just hang out in Founders World long enough and you'll see his gang) have moved onto other games. But there definitely are still organic fights to be found if you go out looking.

[@spankyjeffro5320]

Either provide proof for your claim or you will be punished.

[@morisking555]

you ridiculous flight and style! on my eagle turn around you and destroy with easy dance!