Grigory Perelman declining the award - Field's medal ceremony - Madrid

The world's smartest man, who solved one of the biggest mysteries of mathematics and who decliend the Field's medal and the 1 million dollar paycheck that goes with it.

[@TheThirdGerman]

He didn't decline out of arrogance. He declined because the people whose work his solution of the Poincaré conjecture was based upon, didn't get any credit. They were not even mentioned. He thought that this was wrong and unfair, since without them, he wouldn't have been able to solve the problem and so he rejected the prize. I wish more people had that attitude...

[@zarkorandjelovic6945]

But if that's the reason then couldn't he have just taken the prize money and split it with those people? They aren't known now anyway are they? I agree with not taking the fields medal though if that's the case.

[@sagargohri8710]

Zarko Randjelovic it's not about money, it's about getting recogbition for the work you did.

[@victorserras]

If that is the case, then nobody would ever be able to win the Fields Medal since, in Mathematics, everything is built on top of previous work, that is, everyone's work is based on the work of earlier people. He could have accepted the Medal and, in the acceptance speech, mentioned the people whose work helped him come up with his proof.

[@maxd7649]

That's not right. As he later said he doesn't need that million and he doesn't do it for money

[@dekippiesip]

@@victorserras true, though there are different degrees to everything. If someone manages to prove a conjecture for 90% and fails to prove it for a few special cases, then I can understand he would fill bitter if some other guy later down the road manages to fill in the remaining 10% and gets all the recognition for it.

[@TheHolyReality]

Grigory Perelman , a true rebel.

[@Reym_ai]

HolyReality Rebel? No, he's just not a dirty pig, living for pleasure. The Western world view is incredibly selfish.

[@vladimirtrumpladen1957]

@@Reym_ai fuck you fuck you fuck you

[@dec13666]

@@vladimirtrumpladen1957 I bet you're a Western mathematician 😂... Just joking, I bet you can barely know how to add 😂

[@dec13666]

@M Wittmann I bet you're a Western mathematician 😂... Just joking, I bet you can barely know how to add 😂

[@dec13666]

@M Wittmann Mexico? 😂😂😂 Get a map & a dictionary dipshit, I'm insulting you in fluent English 😂🖕...

[@alureon1]

I guess math people don't know when to and when not to clap. There must be no clapping theorem.

[@J.c410]

wtf are u talking about, do u even know what is a fields medal ?

[@Miguel-pv2yv]

That's a good one

[@igoresteves2388]

@@J.c410 wtf are u talking about, do u even know what is a joke ?

[@HarryPotter-kd3bh]

​@@igoresteves2388. You see, it's not funny. idiots should note their inferiority to mathematicians, and act accordingly. bartenbach falls under the class of idiot for making a joke which has no humorous basis, he only said it because mathematicians and theorems are closely related in the mind of people who loved 9th grade geometry so much, they took it 3 times in a row. Bartenbach needs to wisen up, shut up, and never again imply that mathematicians are so foolish that they need something like a theorem. It's only a joke it if doesn't offend people. of course, if you disagree, you'll comment saying that my jokes about people who need to take elementary math classes multiple times (at the cost of their poor spatial reasoning skills) is funny and that you like it. Probabilistcally, you won't. That's because you did think the joke was funny, and therefore aren't smart enough to realize that it's not (else you would have saved yourself the embarassment of getting served). That choice highlights *your* stupidity, and makes me wonder whether you're even worth this post. Nevertheless, at least by writing this, I've continued to develop my logical reasoning, while you, like the rest of your idiot bretheren, will continue to be on the receiving end of things: humorous sodomy from intellectuals, financial sodomy from the celebrities you worship, and spiritual sodomy from the religious system that was supposed to keep you in line but clearly lapsed in your case. A sincere fuck you from me. Best, - Dr. Harry Potter, FACC.

[@igoresteves2388]

@@HarryPotter-kd3bh 7/10 decent pasta

[@GrNen]

lol at the few ppl that kinda awkwardly clap, after the announcer says that he refused to accept the medal

[@hopo2hopo]

it was really awkward. the presenter felt the awkwardness totally.

[@pabloamoon]

haha yeah

[@randomdude9135]

This is what happens when you pay the audience to attend

[@acidraindrops6657]

This is what happens when a bunch of super nerds are in attendance

[@laks6036]

@@acidraindrops6657 woah,were you expecting the class clown in the ceremony?

[@TimJSwan]

I'll save everyone some time. 2:30

[@jkjkhoyolula]

thanks

[@HL-iw1du]

Tim-J.Swan T H A N C C

[@strawhatluffy1880]

There’s always one.

[@TIENTI0000]

Спасибо из Москвы

[@sangeydorjee9878]

Thank u

[@coria6231]

I really wanna be like Gregory, a great genius and mathematician but most important, being also humble and honest

[@coria6231]

@BEN BDX Pff obviously not I mean being a math and always keeping in mind where I came from

[@kb8102]

You (and I, and everyone, maybe except Perelman) wouldn't be humble possessing that kind of talent, I'm sure of it.

[@Caracazz2]

>most important LOL. Yeah, sure.

[@quantumgravity639]

@@BENBDX2023he said it correctly. Humility and ego are relative to the ever changing situations. The same person , too humble in a situation when he does not have anything to be proud of becomes something else when he achieves something which no once could before. But the paradox is inside him he believes that he is that old humble guy without change but for the other people around him his behaviour changes . Even deep down his mind , he also knows that he is not the same anymore in case of showing the gratitude to others. But the towers of achievements actually hid the light of reality. That’s why Sir Einstein is genius of geniuses. The whole world runs on a single law, relativity.

[@Spinelli__]

Grigory on declining the Field's Medal award: "I'm not interested in money or fame; I don't want to be on display like an animal in a zoo." ......"It was completely irrelevant for me ... everybody understood that if the proof is correct then no other recognition is needed.".....EXACTLY, it's not about our individual egos, it's about discovery, about humanity as a whole. Grigory also declined the Millennium prize: "On March 18, 2010, The Millennium Prize committee announced that Perelman had met its criteria to receive the first Clay Millennium Prize for his resolution of the Poincaré conjecture. On July 1, 2010, Perelman rejected the prize, saying that his contribution was no greater than that of Richard Hamilton." Grigory sounds like a fantastic human-being.

[@marccerba7979]

Exact. Pure…not like the king Juan Carlos for example.

[@hadjseddikyousfi00]

The confused look on the speaker's face after they were clapping for Perelman's Declination was priceless! XD

[@Arch009]

lmao yes!

[@alanbalsan]

Having Terrence Tao and Grigori Perelman both at the same time would have been epic.

[@randomdude9135]

Yup, legendary combo

[@hexa3389]

It *was* epic.

[@_weiss.77]

O trabalho de Tao se resume a contribuições fragmentárias em várias áreas da matemática. O de Perelman, a uma teoria completamente nova na geometria diferencial, importante por si só; a solução da conjectura de Poincaré é apenas mais um problema que ela resolve. Tao mal conseguiria conversar com ele, pois não tinha nem um terço de sua compreensão da topologia e da geometria diferencial. Perelman era o maior especialista do mundo nessas áreas - quando publicou seus artigos, a princípio ninguém os entendeu, porque envolviam uma grande variedade de técnicas, muitas das quais inéditas.

[@jeancarloscastillo8822]

''I regret the doctor Perelam has decline to accept the medal''... everybody clapping 3:06

[@arunray2986]

He didn't accept simply because of high level of politics involved in these organisations and commities. This guy is a saint.

[@rmhism]

1 million dollars was not enough. The world we live in pisses me off. Justin Bieber, Paris Hilton; why are these people famous? They have done nothing, yet Grigori Perelman has actually accomplished something that will change the world forever; and hardly anyone will know his name. We live in a sick world.

[@-Muhammad_Ali-]

Yes

[@xeniosm4549]

Legend! "Too bad money can't make you understand the world, fools."

[@Deezer270]

Long story very short: as Grigori Perelman didn't want to be a figurehead for a mathematical community that even tolerated a mathematician who tried to take away some credit from him, he chose to not accept the prize. Below, the short version. Only one mathematician has refused the Fields medal, the Russian Grigori Perelman in 2006. He was recognized for proving the Poincaré conjecture. The key to this question is to understand Perelman's motivation and its standards. Motivation: to solve a very important problem that no one else could solve for more than a hundred years. He single-mindedly dedicated, practically in isolation, 7 years of his life to it. Absolutely nothing else mattered to him. He REALLY didn't care about money or fame (so we can conclude already that he is a very peculiar man). Standards: Perelman is described as "impeccably honest" by people who have known him since he was a teenager. He also believed in the absolute righteousness of mathematicians about giving credit where credit is due. But in 2003 a more senior and very influential mathematician (a Fields Medallist himself) was involved in publishing a paper that clearly tried to take away from Perelman some of the credit. Other people would have worked out the politics by making the right calls and explaining everything. Not Perelman. Throughout his adult life Perelman onlyfelt comfortable around few other mathematicians and now felt betrayed by the mathematical community. He shut out. He quit his job. He abandoned mathematics altogether in 2005. So in May 2006, when approached in Russia by the president of the mathematical union (John Ball) he said he wouldn't go to the international congress and he wouldn't accept the prize. A really great 40 min. documentary is available on youtube, in russian, with english subtitles. Search for Grigori Perelman documentary (with english subtitles) - Roman Kunin. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I took this from Quora, and I also recommend to check that documentary to have a better understanding of this mathematician. Cheers

[@premkumar-sr4ee]

They took it from wikipedia

[@heythere4065]

@@premkumar-sr4ee they(wiki) took it from interviews 😂

[@Abhishek-ti5er]

❤❤❤

[@Jabberwocky869]

Chinese mathematicians practically spit Perelman in the face by trying to undermine his work. Apparently, his proof is too difficult to understand for an average Joe, so rewriting it and implying it's your own "crowing achievement" is justified. At least, mathematical community thinks such behavior is acceptable. And now they act all offended, because Perelman refused their medals and money.

[@Brono25]

can you elaborate?

[@variszarins]

can't you use google? Bronn

[@gruen2006]

@dark ocean Perelman's argument for refusing the various awards was a mixture of Hamilton (who is actually still alive) not being awarded too and of the alleged lax ethical standards of mathematical society. As for whether the Chinese mathematicians contributed anything substantial to the proof is technically beyond the understanding of us mere mortals, but the aftermath was definitely that they retracted their original paper which they labelled as "complete proof of Perelman's theorem" and "crowning achievement", and modified it to "exposition of Perelman's proof". They also had to apologize for taking over uncited arguments from the papers of other authors verifying Perelman's work. I guess we can safely state that by today the final proof is unambiguously attributed to Perelman

[@marcus8710]

Chinese 'experts' straight up stealing intellectual property... surprise.

[@hybridgamer4105]

@@marcus8710 thats what they are best at xD

[@EGarrett01]

Based on what Perelman actually said, he felt the mathematical community was too lax in its ethics, particularly because it failed to punish a group of Chinese mathematicians who essentially tried to steal credit for his proof by rewriting it and claiming it was theirs. Thus, he said he had to choose to participate in the awards quietly and be a tool, participate and make a big stink about it, or simply walk away from it. He chose the last option. The likely fact that he has a hyperdeveloped moral sense along with Autism symptoms causing him to hate changing his routine probably contributed as well.

[@chandrapandey822]

I think the failed to punish Chinese mathematician is a fallacy as far as I know maybe he was upset about the fact that Hamilton didn't get any credit for the proof considering the fact that he had laid a major Foundation for the proof.

[@samuelr2969]

You say hyperdeveloped moral Sense, then autism symptoms? Contradictory.

[@andytownman1916]

Wow generalize much?

[@Bollibompa]

@@samuelr2969 You do not know what autism is.

[@samuelr2969]

Lmao. Well maybe explain what the relation in the context is ??

[@andytownman1916]

A hero to real scientists everywhere.

[@TransworldTN]

Am i the only one who finds the topic of this video disingenuous? It is NOT a video of Grigory Perelman declining an award. It IS a video of a bunch of other people receiving awards and people clapping for 6min. Grigory isn't even in the video!

[@lucyfoster4082]

+Robert Mitchell No, he declined the award or to attend the ceremony; surely you didn't expect to see him...

[@TransworldTN]

+Lucy Foster only 1% of this video has anything to do with the title.

[@Brono25]

Um..who didn't​ know he declined the award before watching the video..?

[@KoolGamesHD]

He thought the judges were not qualified to be sitting there

[@gagakagaga]

3:06 Dr. Perelman has declined to accept the medal. (Claps)

[@vasuhardeo1418]

Grigory Perelman you rock dude

[@NeoExHades]

Just my two cents theory : like the girl in numberphile video said "matematicians are solving mathematical equations all the time and no one cares but someone declining the award that would make a buzz" and in fact the news it did make the buzz all around the world, sparked a spark of curiosity and interest in mathematics in everyone, reminding people everywhere money is less important than human relations, giving Russia a good name... I could cite numerous more reasons why the man declined the prize but I will just cut to the chase and tell you this : Kindness, is the next level of intelligence.. Ultimate kindness is the ultimate intelligence. It doesn't matter if you can solve a rubick's cube in 15 seconds, the greatest reward and the best feeling in the world is the one you feel after showing kindness to another human being.

[@cocoarecords]

well said knowledge above all

[@MIbra96]

Wonderful words.

[@justin-ej1wt]

solo vergas sos genio

[@alfandohm5412]

Beautiful!

[@mic55y]

Integrity and justice in him is outstanding.

[@durstwurst]

The awkward moment, when you realize, that a smarter person than yourself disagrees with a fundamental part of your social economic realityl

[@aloha5527]

Perelman could understand the genius like Bobby Fisher, Jonh Nash, Srinivasa Ramanujan, Bacon, Descartes, Hobbs.. Today, the mathematical community in a large consumer ass. Perelman wants to explain to the world that ethics is so important and even more so in mathematics. No one of the mathematicians supported him, when the Chinese wanted to assign his work. Terrible, when in science is no morality, no ethics and everything like in simple mortals community - envy, intrigues, lies. And he is over all this. He knows how the Lord works.. and he don't needs millions.

[@qalbi-s_Ahnfy2095]

Fair enough

[@atehortuajf]

Agree but Bobby Fisher was a nutjob

[@RaferJeffersonIII]

I understand bacon. Not sure about the rest but I have bacon nailed

[@hybridgamer4105]

@@RaferJeffersonIII u can watch the movie "The man who knew infinity" on Srinivasa Ramanujan

[@RaferJeffersonIII]

@@hybridgamer4105 does it involve bacon? Or at a push, sausages?

[@theRECONN]

With the first pick in the 2006 NBA draft, Poincaré Conjecture select... Grigorij Perelman from St Petersburg, Russia!

[@elaleron2583]

LMOOOO

[@andrewmorse210]

Announces the highest award given in mathematics...doesn't know not to clap near the microphone.

[@eraldojrps21]

3:05 the announcement of Perelman's decline and awkward applause.

[@jake_runs_the_world]

It’s not about the awards and medals it’s about the kick in the discovery and the thrill of finding out that’s the award ! (Richard Feynman)

[@venkateshearthian8912]

Here comes another feynamn intelligence

[@candidobertetti27]

And then Feynman ran to Stockholm to get the prize.

[@SaeedAcronia]

True legend. Pious hero.

[@TheGarfield1337]

I didnt even know that was the year that Tao got his fields medal... Sheesh... What a legendary year this was for Maths

[@limzhanfeng115]

misleading write-up. 1 million dollars does not come together with the Fields medal, rather awarded by the Clay Mathematics Institute for his solution to the Poincare conjecture

[@xeniosm]

genius. a person that defies money for the seek of knowledge

[@ottovon5182]

3:10 Confused Claps

[@raydredX]

@1isaacmusic Is it wrong if I want money so I can study physics and math all my life without worrying about things like jobs?

[@prody00]

what's up with the applause when he mention the medal was declined? am i not familiar with the ceremony etiquette?

[@magiksity]

That moment was epic.

[@1isaacmusic]

I'm a polymath, so yes, I do try it from time to time ;). Many people are quite successful with no piece of paper. You can't stop someone from being successful, only they can do that to themselves, imo.

[@bogdy72000]

the man knows how to rule the universe !!! what would a million mean for him !

[@rajatgupta4494]

Field's medal don't come with a million dollar. That was for the millennium problem Poincaré Conjecture one out of the seven and only one that have been solved till date.

[@rgruesbeck]

@rmhism 100 years from now, beber and his songs will not be remembered. Perelman and his work will.

[@nonindian6997]

3:08 Claps : exist Logic : ded

[@AKMALJAHONLIVE]

Ilm ahliga qilgan xizmatlaringiz uchun katta raxmat🎉🎉🎉😢

[@VictorKing144]

Just what I needed sir! You took the words right out of my mouth! The Dunning-Kruger effect describes you perfectly, an incompetent individual, who didn't even finish high school, who has some sort of misplaced illusory superiority. If that was directed towards me though, I don't understand. I don't feel superior because I finished high school, why would I, it is a prerequisite of life nowadays to finish high school. Also, common sense doesn't mean every single individual has it, of course not.

[@komprestaSiba]

Grigori might have thought that they can not honor me solving a problem that they couldnt

[@ShaSha-ur3nf]

He reportedly said "I would not accept any award from someone less educated than me"

[@arjuncht]

the announcer is sheldon when hes a lot older, i mean the resemblance is remarkable.

[@premkumar-sr4ee]

This made me Google "Olympians who declined medals".

[@LucasRodmo]

The one take I have from this: Terrence Tao and Grigori Perelman were you elected to the Fields Medal in the same day.

[@SanjaySingh-oh7hv]

Note the awkward clapping at 3:11 ... people are clearly confused about the hidden meaning behind this unprecedented refusal of an award of this magnitude. Perelman is at a whole other level beyond all of these these people, both intellectually and morally.

[@RealLordGaga]

Perelman reminds me of Wittgenstein. Priorities & values the right way up.

[@dreamcx1288]

The herd mentality is so strong among humans that even geniuses blindly clap for no good reason. That would be the second most interesting thing about this video.

[@Ronbo710]

Hey don't feel bad. Will Hunting didn't get one either.

[@ScientificReaction]

Gregori perelmen living legend

[@sahilmishra3436]

If you accept or decline fields medal public claps on both

[@1isaacmusic]

I know how you feel. Leonard Susskind has some of the best lectures on KZbin, imho, especially his cosmology and QM series. I have a deep want for trying to learn maths, it's one of the few subjects I shut off to as a child, and remains difficult for me. Perelman's work I found fascinating, although the fascination may be from a misunderstanding of his work,lol.

[@029Mhelz]

That awkward clap

[@alkanedust3848]

In this shit age it feels good that some real men still exists

[@jeanpaulnavier6726]

I think that my ancestor,claude louis navier, could have acted in same way, ahah! He was very rebel,according to family tales

[@davidgarrote6467]

Are you descendant of THAT Navier? Holy shit... Write a biography, please!

[@kedarsalunkhe1142]

The one from Navier - Stokes equation???!!!

[@noir935]

@@kedarsalunkhe1142 ;O

[@tomkamikaze]

Ok. I'm stoked :-)

[@sushantsaurabh10100]

He is the real gigachad

[@VictorKing144]

And where are you in your live now, if I may ask you?

[@Parasmunt]

Some people were trying to take credit for his work, this annoyed him as it would anybody. He wasn't a big player in the politics of mathematics so wasn't able to express his anger any other way than to decline the award and he felt the other mathematician Hamilton who did work on the method he used was more deserving than someone who 'explains' his result. It does seem wrong that mathematicians get the credit for writing explanations of the achievements of another.

[@caviper1]

My respects.

[@khangdu89]

Money can change your life. It can change a hero become Zero. That reason, he chosen Zero first.

[@arurisuka]

he is a great mathematician.

[@Jacob-gv1yj]

Lol that awkward clap when he announced the the award was declined

[@1isaacmusic]

Autodidactism is the key. I dropped out of high school, but it never stopped me from watching Leonard Susskind lectures, or getting to know Feynman, or knowing physics and science. Education does not require money, only a devotion to learning the unknown.

[@lyrimetacurl0]

Autodidactism takes a really long time but can be more thorough. Education at an institute can only give a snapshot of the common important things and reading around the subject is still strongly encouraged. Working for money, eating and keeping fit ends up taking out about 85% to 90% of the waking hours that could have otherwise been used to teach. So time is extremely valuable. Whereas being at University provides that time (at the expense of money and lack of income). I have work but am trying to perfect which sources to look at - mathematical text books usually.

[@terimaka3624]

@2:34 REAL VIDEO START

[@Parhellia]

Art for art's sake

[@koreboredom4302]

Behold, *the* most Alpha man.

[@jererojasg]

until Will Smith slapped Chris Rock during the Oscars, this was the most awkward moment in the history of award ceremonies

[@pragjyotishbhuyangogoi8363]

Legend.

[@venkateshearthian8912]

After Newton seen a. Legend like Newton real Sigma man..🙌🙌💐💐💐

[@MrChanakkale]

...sospetto che Grigorij abbia scoperto qualcosa di molto più importante...

[@probablynotsatanic66]

There is no "million dollar paycheck" that goes with the Field's medal. He proved one of the Millennium prize problems, the Poincaré conjecture.

[@papa5212479]

I'm touch to see someone mentioning Richard Feynman. It's really great. Didnt prof Feynman die in 1988 ?

[@lyrimetacurl0]

That rhymes.

[@TheMariayo]

Nice tie

[@raydredX]

I'd just say Polymath=Jack of all trades. I found a new love for math and physics and sort of dumped her. Maybe I'll try again sometime.

[@vito7pt]

you need him, he doesn't need you

[@siddharthjain2127]

Every fields medal winner mathematician is a gangster until...real gangster Gregory perelmen ...walks 😏😏

[@LuanBunyak]

Who are the 3 assholes that aren't impressed?

[@tackyyeah8688]

Luan Bunyak Those three assholes are Shing Tung Yau, the motherfucker and bitch that tried to steal credit from Perelman, and the two China boys that worked under him to try to publish their plagiarism of Perelman's results in the Asian Journal of Mathematics, a publication that Yau just happens to be editor in chief ... funny that.

[@pigeonwing9172]

why did he decline it?

[@ClassicalOJazz]

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." Bach, Mozart and Schubert died in misery...

[@ThoreHLackebo]

And so did Leibniz, propably the greatest genius ever.

[@-Muhammad_Ali-]

So did Nikola Tesla. Now this asfhole "submarine inventor" eelon mask parasites on the great man's name

[@ufukyilmaz9577]

Best answers

[@welovfree]

Terence Tao number theory the prime numbers wow

[@RedEyedJedi]

Candidates have to be under the age of 40? Isn't this both ageist and ridiculous? Are you saying that someone over the age of 40 could come up with the most groundbreaking mathematical formula, that could change the world forever and they would not be able to win this medal?

[@user-zi2ld3dq4b]

The Fields Medal is considered as an encouragement for young generation rather than a crowning achievement. Th Abel Prize is actually the highest prize in mathematics and much closer to the Nobel Prize.

[@RR-vk2tl]

It is not possible to invent something revolutionary after 40. You can check biographies of geniuses. Nobody of them invented something even after 35. 35 is critical age.

[@tatert3337]

Nobody knows when to clap apparently

[@MIZRAIM1984]

Perelman did everything right! Vivat Grisha!

[@lobato87]

@3:10 "you are not. supposed. to clap."

[@Simon-xi8tb]

Can you imagine how many blackboard chalks he could have bought with that money...

[@peterzimmermann2730]

This is hilarious. The speaker is mentioned by joe rogan in a context so bizarrly unrelated to this monumental event

[@Herverify]

The universe is full of voids, I know how to calculate them, I know how to measure them, I know how to predict them. That gives me a huge amount of probabilities: I know how to manage the universe. Why would you then want to run for a million dollars? Grigori perelman

[@1isaacmusic]

If it were common everybody would have it, I wouldn't say that's the case, at all. Care to rethink that stance ? Are you familiar with the Dunning-Kruger effect ?

[@evenprime1658]

wait, can i get a fields medals?.. seems fun!

[@TheEreke001]

corrupt world not for honesty man

[@Royrommy]

@rmhism Yeh seriously. i totally agree with you dude

[@fall0rn]

perelman trolling the ceremony. great.

[@Aristarhos_Kapotiadis]

not me. Grigory Perelman.

[@rmhism]

@19fas88 You totally miss my point. For one thing, math IS art. It's debatable whether or not a 16 year old boy singing about the love of his life to a bunch of pre-teen girls is actually considered "art."

[@khangdu89]

I voted up for "Agreed" .