M4 iPad Pro Impressions: Well This is Awkward

[@tc102167]

I have a car that can drive 300mph and live in the middle of NYC where, when I do use it, my average speed is 10 mph. Next year I will get the 400mph version of the same car! So excited!

[@OumarMohammed-ir9tr]

😂word but where do you think apple can go with the iPad surely they can’t give it macOS as that’ll ruin millions of macbook sales, they are in such a weird place I don’t even understand maybe they should give it samsung dex like feautures?

[@MaxCE]

​@@OumarMohammed-ir9tr that's the only direction the iPad is headed. as it's currently competing with both the surface and Samsung tab. both of those have a desktop mode.

[@MaxCE]

@@OumarMohammed-ir9tr you can't compete with Dex mode and windows with just IPadOS that didn't even have a calculator

[@chinito77]

Once sales start slumping for the MacBook or iPad, will apple finally merge both devices.

[@samanstead9131]

What a great analogy haha

[@ray412m]

iPad Pro M4 - The most powerful Netflix and KZbin machine

[@spacetoast7783]

Actually though. The OS holds this thing back so much.

[@joshnizzle]

Idk what you’re talking about. I get practically all I need from my iPad Pro. No need for a MacBook for me. So maybe it’s a Netflix machine for you but it does all I need with a graphic design business and an art business.

[@lagado1lag]

Wait for the MacBook Air M4

[@kinnai8334]

​@@joshnizzle but you can't run desktop software that people that use desktop software would need an actual laptop/desktop for

[@manillafb06]

​@@joshnizzle The thing is it could be so much more but IpadOS is limiting it

[@SuperTrey807]

The fact that even Marques knows that the Magic Keyboard is “ungodly expensive” warms my heart 🙏🏾

[@melgross]

All keyboards for tablets are ungodly expensive.

[@HigherResolution]

The price is also magic😂

[@deesplayworldtv]

Not the typecase.

[@uchihasenpai5671]

Isnt there a cheaper logitech keyboard for ipads?

[@pigletBR]

This doesn't make the argument wrong, you're saying basically nothing. This is an apple video.​@@melgross

[@Will-cs3yb]

Pretty sure any professional designer who utilizes the iPad Pro would have been happier with a 2x battery life and same form factor as last gen.

[@brunosco]

Not so sure, as it would mean more bulky but also heavier. You can always carry a power pack with you if needed, but at least that’s optional.

[@brunosco]

@@solarydays Agreed, but all those people don’t need the Pro model. And the non pro iPads don’t seem to be too thin vs battery life. The real pros who take it onsite might appreciate the size and weight. And everyone can use a power bank anyway. Of course, there’s still a whole category of people who will want pro, sturdy and long lasting vs thin…

[@divyanshbhutra5071]

Pretty sure any professional would connect a Wacom to the existing laptop or desktop...

[@mattisasleep1969]

@@divyanshbhutra5071Wacom price is the same as an iPad Pro (for a quality one anyway) but then you lose the mobility and versatility. Personally, I almost exclusively use my iPad for Procreate. I’d love more battery life and I honestly don’t care how thick or heavy it is.

[@carriebartkowiak]

Or we're just still happy with our 2017 iPad Pro 10.5" that still is THE workhorse to have in your hands. The only thing on my wish list is what Marques mentioned: flipping the Pencil to get an eraser function.

[@YDINO69]

It’s now just a nerfed MacBook

[@TheOnlyName]

How long do you think it will take for them to put a touch screen on a a MacBook... Not sure it will happen in our lifetimes at this rate xD

[@bituniverse8677]

@@TheOnlyNameThey’re just going to force you to buy an iPad and use the fancy display stuff for a touch screen

[@oliver_3185]

It always has been since they put M1 in the iPad air

[@kobaltkraft5900]

231 likes and only 3 comments? Lemme fix that

[@luislebronaponte2737]

Indeed

[@devinmims6593]

I’ll patiently be waiting for the bend test

[@TheOnlyName]

Samee, Zack's videos are going to be real bangers with the thinnest Apple electronic ever and a double layered OLED iPad display

[@wibba_]

That's exactly what I thought LMAO

[@mrfixit1216]

I predict catastrophic failure by way of a certain individual by the name of Zach...

[@Collin_J]

I want Zack to just put this in the back pocket of some JNCO jeans and sit down

[@zaccamden5016]

NO ONE will deliberately bend an iPad in real life

[@HisMajesty99]

What an insane missed opportunity for them to keep the iPad Pro the same thickness and finally remove that obnoxious camera bump, while also having a bigger battery 🤦‍♂️ If they wanted to go thin…..do it on the iPad AIR

[@kiwisorbet]

Exactly. They really fumbled here...

[@jeremychurch5683]

Yep, there's absolutely no need to make these any thinner, I have the M1 Pro and it feels perfect, any smaller would feel too thin

[@_reckonr]

I guess they prefer to surrender to the marketing slogan instead on real, actually useful improvements...

[@YuhaoChiu]

They really should make the iPad Air thinner instead of the pro ones…

[@amirtorhan2762]

I never thought of the camera bump but the bigger battery would have been a very welcome update. My M1 iPad have never really had that good of a battery and now it's pretty horrible. I have not seen a single person say "man these iPads are so thick, I need them thinner".

[@NOTASCOOLASME]

I definitely think the nano texture is for digital artists and that’s why it was added to the higher storage models!! I love to draw and digital plan on my iPad, so the texture would be nice, but not at the expense of buying a higher spec’d model! I’ll just stick to my 20 dollar textured screen protector instead!! 🤣🤣

[@JohnGuyJohn]

Yes, a textured screen protector like the Rock Paper Pencil can work very well and has the advantage of being removable for those times when you want to see the full capability of the display.

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

Dude thank you for saying what needs to be said. We don't need a spec bump, we need a huge redisgn to Ipad OS.

[@FightClass3]

No we don't. Just get a Macbook, we don't need legacy API back ported to iPadOS.

[@ademiravdic]

@@FightClass3 200 likes on his comment says we do

[@ronald3836]

We need an iPad that won't be made unresponsive by Apple 3-4 years from now.

[@TeddyLeppard]

Don't be ridiculous. Both are happening.

[@unlimitedcosmicspeed]

@@ademiravdic 200 likes won't change Apples mind.

[@nauscakes1868]

As an artist, the pencil improvements were the highlight for me. What I REALLY REALLY REALLY want is for Apple to make the pencil compatible with the iPhone. Then I can carry a pencil with me and doodle on my iPhone while I'm out and about. And then cloud transfer my sketches to the iPad to polish up

[@goldbrick2563]

Me too

[@paolaanimator]

Same here, I'd love that feature. It's why I have a high end Samsung phone with S-Pen, for the pen option. I like the bigger iPad screen, more comfortable to draw but it would be awesome if it also works on iPhone.

[@nauscakes1868]

@@paolaanimator Every year I'm more and more tempted to go back to the Samsung note. I had one once, and I miss the S pen

[@77asare]

But you have to buy the new iPad to get the pencil 😢

[@kirank7105]

Just get a samsung

[@sillyrabbit77]

I’m rocking my 13 inch iPad Pro from 2018. Works flawlessly. If I have to upgrade at some time, I’ll buy a used m2 pro in 13 inch. They go for around $700.

[@mattisasleep1969]

Same here, but I’ll probably wait untill the next generation of pencil so that it’s actually worth it for me.

[@lime-animates-2763]

Nah might as well get M5 or M6

[@mikesshots8587]

I still have my 2018 iPad Pro and it still does it’s job greatly! Consuming content, editing photos on Lightroom, it’s amazing. Battery is still pretty good and I use it almost daily

[@_revivify_7175]

Same!

[@ajmarion]

Same here with my 2020 iPad Pro. Still plenty good enough for what I do on it, just emails / web browsing / office docs / KZbin

[@RoysIdea]

And probably safer as is doesn’t run on an Mx processor with side channel vulnerability.

[@Adam_mohammed_]

I am still using my Ipad 5th gen. 2017 🥹

[@aussiefootyqueen]

Same, I’ve got the iPad 2020 pro and when I browse the new iPads in the store I don’t hardly notice any difference and certainly wouldn’t fork out for one.

[@cruxzh]

Still rocking my ipad pro 10.5 inch from 2017. Netflix, youtube, ebook reading, note taking still works as I needed. So im just gonna keep it.

[@muminovicamir]

Same bro. Awesome device.

[@SentinelPrime-]

Same here, but for KZbin and CODM.

[@RandomFace]

I'm currently working with the same model. But this time its getting handed down to my fiancée and I'm getting that OLED :P

[@sammylam357]

didnt die dont fix it same goes with iphones

[@conorstewart2214]

I’m still using an iPad Air 2 from 2014, it still works perfectly fine for watching videos and listening to music. It is still great for taking notes too. It even works for CAD software like onshape and fusion 360 (fusion 360 only lets you view files). It does absolutely everything I need it to, so there is no reason for me to upgrade it. New iPads won’t let me do anything more, mainly because the OS is the biggest limitation of iPads.

[@pranavjoshi2202]

Best update imo is that the base iPad now starts at 349 instead of the ridiculous 449. That’s what is going to benefit most people.

[@pere__ubu]

Hell yeah, to me this was the actual most interesting bit of this presentation. 349$ is really competitive and already does 90% of what most people use their iPad for, while not being as outdated in design and specs than the previous 9th gen. I would have gone for this one instead of the Air m1 at the time of the screen was similar. Surprised he didn’t talk about it, maybe because this is just the natural effect of the lineup moving forward.

[@snausages43]

I bought my iPad 9 two months after release for $329 directly from Apple. What’s new about this?

[@danielton9577]

I agree. iPadOS makes sense on a $349 device.

[@bensemusx]

I also think the Air FINALLY starting at 128GB is way better. 64G for $600 was beyond stupid.

[@Felon229]

Is this true!?

[@Blackflagship1]

Thank you for an honest review, the pencil incompatibility it’s absolute garbage. Not spending $1000+ for a new iPad to replace my perfectly fine m2, but could’ve spent $150 in the new pencil with no problem. Greedy hits them back because im sure there’s a lot of people like me

[@AgiIeBeast]

Yeah, I was already sold on upgrading to the new pen, guess they didn't want me to though

[@Zellzoi]

JerryRigEverything: *opens the box* iPad Pro: *"iPad is now entering SOS mode."*

[@YouTubetail]

New iPad Pro marques 👏

[@mrchicken08]

iPad springs arms trying to shut the box back yelling “not today JerryRigEverything guy!!”

[@Jacob48902]

😂😂😂😂. Wonder how much titanium is in this one! (Not enough) RIP

[@fryball1443]

The bend test on a 5mm ipad is gonna be hilarious

[@DrSpaceman42]

iPad Pro: IM JUST GLASS DONT TASE ME BRO

[@theresearcher253]

The wife bought me an iPad for Christmas about 11 years ago. I absolutely loved it. My daughter also absolutely loved it. We all have iPhones and MacBooks and we've never bought an iPad since. Every time a new one is launched, I say to myself, 'that looks amazing. I'd love to have one....but do I actually need one?'

[@fabianmckenna8197]

Agreed....... I bought my wife an original iPad which was fine until Apple stopped doing updates so got her a new one three years ago.

[@Boschx]

Make your family and yourself a favour and buy a non scamming brand if possible

[@Temulon]

I'd like to buy you a beer. I wish more people would say "Do I actually need this?" and not just about purchases but other aspects of their lives.

[@che9218]

If you find yourself asking that question then you should know you don't need it. It's just a temptation.

[@04Mancini]

@@Boschxto think that any multibillion dollar corporation isn’t out to scam you is pretty naive of you. But of course, because it’s Apple, people amp up the scrutiny just a tad more. Makes sense.

[@KoenigNord]

My 2017 iPad still does its job. Watching, browsing, foto editing and document editing. Battery is becoming an issue but a power bank helps.

[@cypvh74]

Finally replacing a 10 yr old iPad Air 2nd gen. With one these new iPad Air models.

[@ab8948]

I’m replying from my 2015 ipad mini 4 😅

[@tezcanaslan2877]

How are you not experiencing any slowdowns, hiccups? I was also using iPad 5th Gen until last year and the SoC was starting to show it’s age.

[@Dudu-nk2ig]

I use mine too, it is still very useful it only bugs with presentations etc, but if you don't need to rush, it a complete machine

[@samijune5824]

the only reason I'm upgrading my 2018 is because I was broke when I bought it so it only has 64gb and I now work with large raw files in bulk 🫠

[@Oneness100]

I'm getting an iPad Pro 13 but with the normal screen and just putting a matte protector on it. Since I'm upgrading from a 4th gen, I'll probably notice a huge difference in display and power, plus I believe it has more RAM, which is always helpful.

[@Axel...]

Finally, they made it more powerful and thinner. Just what no-one needed.

[@aykutcavus7969]

What do you want on a new iPad?

[@dareemmanuel6079]

@@aykutcavus7969way longer battery life and cheaper

[@chrismantonuk]

And brighter! Because it wasn’t bright enough 😅

[@flyfalfly]

​@@aykutcavus7969Same thickness with better battery & no camera bump would be great

[@e5211]

Be able to turn from iPad os to MacOS when you throw it onto a keyboard.

[@Sugarcubeeee]

When you realize they changed all the sizes from 12.9 inch to 13 inch or 10.9 to 11inch to "be more clean" when in reality you old magic keyboards are now obsolete and you need to buy some more

[@sourrlemons]

they do this kinda stuff every year lmao, they move the buttons on iphones so previous years cases don't work

[@gaboshkaboi6885]

Is this actually true? My understanding was that the iPad is the same size but the screen got thinner bezels so should still work? Isn’t that the case?

[@enloeeagle7258]

​@@gaboshkaboi6885it sure doesn't sound like they changed the actual chassis size

[@imelliam]

Why would you upgrade from a couple year old iPad and need a new one and want to keep an old keyboard case? lol. Yeah I’m sure they changed the screen from 12.9 to 13 only for that and the totally different display tech in each model had nothing to do with it. /s

[@bob_kazamakis]

Go look at a side view of the last 4 iPhones. They do things like moving the lock button ever so slightly so the cases are incompatible

[@abdullahasmj8527]

The reason I love mkbhd vids is because 1. He sums up an hours event into a 10 minute video, and 2. He cuts through all the ads, claims, etc. of companies, and explains the real, practical impact of the upgrade....usually incremental. Thanks Marques

[@beffjezos-i2p]

exactly! and on top of that we can use uBlock and Sponsorblock to cut through his own ads and sponsors, it's the perfect trifecta.

[@carstenb23]

There are plenty of other youtubers who do that too

[@parioceanchicago]

@@carstenb23 Maybe but Marques is really good at it, among the best on YT.

[@jr7853]

​@@carstenb23you must be fun at parties.

[@carstenb23]

@@jr7853 I’m just letting him know bro

[@tobiasfleming5389]

I totally get what you are saying with the “spec bump”… and that makes complete sense if you have the previous version.. but for me (and probably most people) I have an iPad that’s 6 or so years old and it’s a massive improvement. I feel that is Apple’s bread and butter, The periodical consumer. Not everyone can afford to buy the latest and greatest every time Apple drop a new device.

[@VarHyid]

Thank you so much for showing the nano-texture glass. Just cancelled my order and placed a new one for the regular glass.

[@Cooe.]

... Have you never seen a matte display before or something? O_o They all look like that. That's literally the entire point lol.

[@locomotionchannel]

Just get one of those paperlike magnet screen protectors.

[@oscarkrug2295]

I got a super cheap random paper like screen cover on my iPad, it's PERFECT. feels like paper, and I can take it off If I feel. do NOT get that different screen!

[@ElGuerreroMaya]

Why people are buying this ridiculous thing is beyond me lmao

[@mokaLARE]

@@ElGuerreroMayaand for some reason, it costs more than the regular one. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@panampace]

There’s so many things I do on iPad: Video editing Art/Animation Graphic Design 3D Modeling 2D Game development The power is there, but it’s still held back by in many little ways that make it a pain to use it as a laptop replacement.

[@bryanltobing]

i was expecting a joke

[@kfirdrake8711]

Well, they do it intentionally because if it can replace a MacBook, you wouldn't buy one on top of an iPad.

[@Sky-rv3to]

have u considered the samsung galaxy tablet? Probs can't do the game dev stuff (don't know much about that in my defense) but does work with graphics and editing.

[@1slotmech]

Its a *tablet* not a _notebook_ 🤣

[@TsarNicholas2nd]

@@1slotmechyes it is a tablet. Got a problem?

[@wilsonchua8312]

There’s missing of ultra wide angle camera on the back. As an interior designer, ultra wide angle camera is a must have feature. We need that to capture interior space, and it’s great for direct annotation on it.

[@PrestoJacobson]

"Interior Crocodile Alligator"

[@viralhodgepodge2843]

Oh! They are going to make you use your iPhone for that according to them! But I am surprised that no reviewers have brought it up. That is a downgrade to a machine that is being significantly upgraded on all other fronts. Maybe they will introduce some AI software to simulate it at WWDC.

[@AnythingFitz]

Ithought the lidar sensor was the smaller ultra wide 💀

[@andyH_England]

Their new iPhone app, due after WWDC, will rectify that. Apparently, anything taken on your iPhone will be available on the iPad for editing and rendering in real-time.

[@lvseka]

Completely agreed. This is the problem with reviewers only seeing the iPad by the lenses they insist on. They are trying to figure out how to make it a MacBook rather than seeing how people who have actually made this device useful in their lives are using it. I’m an Architect and use the Ultra wide angle all the time to capture construction progress and sketch out iterations on site. I now have to capture such moments via my phone, which isn’t an iPhone btw, then transfer and sketch. That camera wasn’t there for document scanning or general photography. I served a practical use in apps like morpholio.

[@louistech112]

I can’t see how ppl Say that you’re biased you’re literally tearing them apart for this. You’re the most consumer friendly guy ever . Props to you my friend

[@Olm-]

he is basically only biased when it comes to tesla. and even that’s not too bad but damn if it isn’t obvious

[@benjamin7114]

His Apple complaints are 99% saying, 'it's too expensive' .... that's not a critique.

[@cionm7077]

@@benjamin7114 it is when compared to the competition.

[@clartoos]

His critics of Apple is like complaining how great something is, it's not serious.

[@delistoyer]

They should change it to mac OS

[@charliekempf]

I bought a used 13" iPad Pro from 2018 a few years ago. Same resolution and refresh rate as the new one! Runs everything I can throw at it like a champ!

[@GaryAbbott]

I take it you do not run Davinci Resolve or Final Cut.

[@charliekempf]

@@GaryAbbott With iPadOS so locked down those apps are basically useless. I edit videos w/ premiere on a real computer. Any motion tracking, video reencoding, compositing etc cannot be done on an iPad.

[@hynekd]

Not sure what that has to do with this video, however Congratulations!

[@OG_AsianGod]

​@@hynekdhe is talking about the same product, how is it not related

[@Erindale]

@@GaryAbbott I make art tutorials which I sometimes need to edit on my 2018 iPad Pro with Resolve and it does 1080p30 very comfortably

[@ahdncordeiro]

No Marques, it's not a complete spec bump, there is also spec loss. They removed the second camera (probably because of thickness), which could be used for creating spacial videos for Vision Pro. It's actually the first time they removed a feature from an iPad.

[@user-rz7hg9my6h]

Technically the 2nd. The headphone jack was the first.

[@imresomodi4961]

@@user-rz7hg9my6h mute switch was first if i remember correct...

[@catalin-viorelbriceag1097]

I don't think you wanna record video on a 11 or 13 inch tablet in the first place but sure, they could've kept it. At the same time they got data how these devices are used so I'm sure most of the time, "taken out" features are not actually that missed by the majority.

[@ahdncordeiro]

@@catalin-viorelbriceag1097 I know they probably have telemetry to base these decisions and I also wouldn't use a tablet to record videos. But my main point was a feedback for Marques not identifying/mentioning the removal of the second camera. It is a spec loss and should be brought up for viewers to better make base their decisions.

[@vitorsoaresdomingos2970]

@@ahdncordeiroi work with my ipad pro and i do use the 2nd camera all the time, don’t know what I’m gonna do now. Its great for taking pictures of home interior and analyzing them with the lidar scan

[@RazgovorIsDialog]

I would also like to add this since you forgot to include it in the video. The 256GB & 512GB variants of the Oled ipads have a 9 core cpu and 8GB of ram, while the higher end 1TB & 2TB variants have a 10 core cpu & 16GB of ram. Just wanna put that out there for those wondering what apple meant when they were saying "up to 10 core cpu" in the presentation yesterday.

[@gsst6389]

Thats weaker then an iphone 15 💀

[@joshuaisaacallan]

You simply couldn’t get away with hiding it behind storage if this was a desktop/laptop

[@RazgovorIsDialog]

@@joshuaisaacallan Indeed. An additional thing to note, is that, that extra core won't make enough of a difference, to warrant shelling out an additional 500-600 dollars to get a 1TB ipad. At most, those who fork over that premium will most probably be getting around 10-12% more multicore performance at most. As for the ram, it should've been at the base, 12GB. Doubling that of the iPhone 15 Pro, which has 6GB of ram.

[@johannesssssssss]

9 cores is a weird CPU core count

[@Muhluri]

I think they just use binned chips for the cheaper. Binned chips are ones that have more defects. So instead of throwing them away, they just disable the parts that aren't working​@@johannesssssssss

[@KeithMetz-x7f]

Looking at making the upgrade. I appreciate you candor and sarcasm. You successfully talked me out of the nano tech screen and thus are saving me money, much appreciated on that.

[@davidwood5663]

I don't know anyone that wanted the iPad Pro to be thinner. Most people have some sort of case on the iPad for protection, to carry it or use it in the field, which is a similar thickness to the device itself. Using the existing chassis or even making it a mm or two thicker to provide greater battery life, more ports, encompass the camera bulge or even more robust overall to negate the need for a case would be much more useful I feel.

[@charname-player]

They probably just don’t want to give you more and make it look expensive

[@TheGlobalProfessional]

That's the first thing I thought. I have a pretty chunky case and I don't want a thinner pro, I want a more powerful pro. I like that they make them super powerful because they last longer that way.

[@nichthier8d239]

I like the approach of a thinner iPad. My Pro is really heavy and bulky with the Magic Keyboard attached to it all the time.

[@ericw9655]

With as powerful as they’re making these processors, they can’t upgrade the battery. It’s the main reason people will need to upgrade these in ~4 years. Everything else is really future proof.

[@SeanTube2099]

Apple thinks a 8-11 screen on time from battery (depending on use) is good enough. Can’t say I disagree.

[@KyXnline]

For the art people: No the new air doesn't have a 16gb RAM option for procreate layers. You'll still need to go the pro if you want the most layers possible.

[@howardsend6589]

M4 Pro up to 512 GB only has 8 GB RAM. Pricey to go for 16 GB.

[@simonmaduxx6777]

That's NOT good deal!??

[@mneri84]

@@howardsend6589 the 1 tb and 2 tb have the m4 chip unlocked too boosting processors and memory.

[@mattdebyl8806]

Actually the single biggest announcement today was that Final Cut for iPad can edit clips directly off a USB-C drive, rather than having to import them into the stupid siloed app arrangement. This has been the single biggest issue with using these things in an actually productive way. I’d expect further changes in the next iPad OS around this which will FINALLY remove the great, stupid barrier of iPad productivity. Quite surprised Marques didn’t mention this at all.

[@PacificGardening]

How many people doing video editing are doing it on their iPads vs. a MacBook Pro or even a MacBook Air though?

[@throwaway756]

​​@@PacificGardeningyou're one of those people who'd rather tell people to buy another expensive device just to do a simple task. Even Android tablets can do it. Why'd you have to spend a couple hundred dollars for a feature that can be provided with a simple software update? Your fanboyism is showing.

[@PepsT]

That is great! I missed that.

[@PacificGardening]

@@throwaway756 Yeah…I think you’re assuming a lot of negativity here where it isn’t warranted. I guarantee you that most people who edit videos using Final Cut do it on a laptop or even a desktop, not an iPad. Has nothing to do with me “telling people to buy another expensive device” because if they’re editing videos, they already own said device, and it’s probably a couple years old since the M1 and M2 were such dramatic increases over previous Macs. I’m not telling anyone to buy anything. Has nothing to do with fanboyism either, since I’m literally comparing one Apple-made device (an iPad) to another Apple-made device (a MacBook). Maybe log off the internet for a while. Not everything has to be controversial or confrontational.

[@8xus_1]

doesnt apply to most people

[@zaosh05]

The Jerry Rig Everything shout-out was really smooth

[@Swarma]

Timestamp?

[@zaosh05]

​@@Swarma2:46

[@Swarma]

@@zaosh05 oh wow I didn't even notice that 😂

[@ItzTruthHurts]

@@Swarmawatch the video 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@SomeThingElseYT]

End Ipad OS and just make it the artists MacBook. That's my vote. (Edit) Valid point some people made: or a less restrictive Ipad OS. Although i say this because it seems to be apples approach to advertise to artists with iPads as of late. Which we know is not the best mode for creation. That and due to the annoyance of having to carry both my MacBook and Huion tablet in my backpack, the idea of having an iPad as my workhorse sounds nice, but since it's so limited… i ended up selling the one i had. At one point, I used my iPad and sidecar, and it was alright, but there's no incentive for developers to think about iPad screen size for desktop applications UI. So putting it all on one for developers to have this in mind and making my backpack load smaller would be nice

[@ignatiusloyolamulti1186]

Logically speaking, why would they implement a macOS into the Ipad? Wouldn’t that defeat the purpose of buying a Macbook and the Ipad? Don’t get me wrong, they can be greedy and all pther kinds of adjectives the human mind can think of. But isn’t the point of them making an ipad an actual ipad and the macbook a macbook are as 2 separate products?

[@panampace]

Yes, that’s all I want

[@terryblueberry]

woah adam in the wild

[@babybirdhome]

I kind of expected that was the direction they were going to go when they switched it to the M1. It’s even closer now. And it’s the only way I’d be upgrading mine at this point. The M1 otherwise has everything I need, other than a new battery, because I’ve used mine so much I’ve actually managed to tank it. It has like 40-50% of the capacity it had when I bought it. I’m also curious to see what the longevity of the new tandem OLED screens are. Did Apple manage to solve burn-in? If not, that’s just one more reason to stick with my micro-LED screen.

[@btuard]

@@ignatiusloyolamulti1186 why not? microsoft does it with their surface line, I guess you could make the argument that Windows is on every manufacturer's Computers, but still even a bare bones macOS would probably be sufficient.

[@sj4392]

After two years of trying to make the original iPad Pro M1 work just sold it this year. I got MacBook Air. Everything is suddenly 1000% more functional.

[@christianhagn145]

The iPad is a fantastic tablet but other than artists I don’t understand why Apple wants it be so powerful.

[@bradavon]

​@@christianhagn145because it sells. No other reason to even put the M1 in it. It sells tablets.

[@ronaldbell7429]

That just means you bought the wrong kind of machine for your work. If you actually were trying to do things that needed a tablet, then when you switched to the MacBook, everything would have become 1000% less functional. Don't blame the iPad for that.

[@NinjaXM0]

@@ronaldbell7429I have use cases for both devices and your comment is pretty accurate, but the thing is most people fall in the category where a laptop would be the better choice.

[@ronaldbell7429]

@@NinjaXM0 I don't disagree with what you say. But there's "better" and there's 1000% better. 1000% is a ridiculous claimed difference. It's either hyperbole that the OP needs to own up to and back off from (which no one on the internet is ever honest enough to do, of course, but I digress), or it's an embarrassing judgment failure because it means the OP had an absolutely non-tablet work type that he/she tried to shoehorn a tablet into. Doesn't seem like it's the iPad's fault.

[@PixelBaller]

I haven't watched many of your videos but geez it's no surprise you are so popular. You speak so clearly, so sincerely and don't use advanced jargon. I'm now a new subscriber. Thanks for making enjoyable videos.

[@verlinswarey507]

Thank you! Love ,Marquis

[@CounterTyagi]

@@verlinswarey507💀 bro

[@RaySri]

​@@verlinswarey507 Bro thinks he is Marques Brownlee 💀

[@IncredibleCRUISER]

That’s why elon musk and mr beast follow him..

[@st.adm.]

Bought Apple refurbished A12X IPad pro 12.9 for like 500 bucks. The best value purchase I made. Glad to know that it still looks like the newest ever one.

[@TheGlobalProfessional]

That's why I like that they make them so powerful. They last really long.

[@meph2806]

I’m upgrading from a A12X to the M4. I have been using it every day for 5 years and weirdly enough it doesn’t perform really well now. The professing power just doesn’t hold up with the absolute newest apps. It still works very well though, just not for my workflow

[@snjert8406]

@@meph2806what apps are you using that you’re feeling the lower performance? I’m just a casual user, so I have no idea what apps really stretch the legs of these things haha

[@JE11OW]

Love your input -- honest and giving props to what they did that's impressive, but also addressing the most important question... WHY?

[@Dante-fk4yi]

Because that is the freaking thing to do

[@SRC267]

It's nice to see an upload from two of my favorite KZbinrs in one day: Marques Brownlee and MKBHD.

[@hickyxnicky411]

hahahaha yes

[@celticsgirl]

how is this funny

[@diyathkumara2443]

They should do a collab some day...

[@vintage_15]

​@@diyathkumara2443they already have in the m1 video 😂

[@guadalupe8589]

​@@celticsgirlwe get it, you're depressed

[@DustinDAmour]

I will be upgrading to the new iPad Pro 13 from a 2nd generation iPad Pro 12.9. The 12.9 has developed an issue where touch randomly stops working and the battery drains rather quickly. The 12.9 was an upgrade from the original iPad, which means I am getting 7 years between upgrades. Hopefully, this new super thin iPad Pro will survive 7 years.

[@thomaskerslack4299]

The Iphone 6 (thinnest IPhone) be lookin down from the clouds and is like damn they really haven't learnt a thing

[@Royvdl]

The crazy thing is that the iPhone 6 was 6.9mm, this is 1.8mm THINNER. Jerry, please test this

[@WaterShowsProd]

I'm still using my iPhone 6S.

[@AlwaresHUN]

I still have that and using it as a backup phone. Its have an elegant curve now, but its still works!

[@joelhubeny7554]

no need to learn from fools when Apple are more intelligent than everyone in the room. I bet most don't even understand Raytracing. Beyond HDR going to change all Displays forever. Cry please IBM

[@anabang1251]

@@joelhubeny7554What the hell are you rambling about? Raytracing on a display?

[@wolfsanity]

Bro just posted "M4 ipads vs Magnets" and insta-deleted it

[@Holysec]

Hahah I clicked it pre quick too. Bro still got it

[@yes_hunny]

I love the new era od Marques not being impressed with boring half-baked products, the fact that he won't sugarcoat these products should be the bare minimum we expect of review videos, but I can't wrap my head around some people being angry that he is actually reviewing these products. Like, I showed someone his youtube channel and the person said "but he's paid by these companies to review these products, right? There is no way that he reviews these products, gives honest feedback, and only makes money through ad sense and brand deals, right?" Like, no, he literally gets crap from viewers for actually criticising what deserves criticism cuz he is authentic edit: some spelling errors

[@billymania11]

He can't afford to be seen as a suck-up to Apple. He has an image to maintain.

[@stephenvalente3296]

@@billymania11 There are too many suck up KZbinrs fawning over everything Apple put out, so nice to see someone who isn't for a change. As several people have already said, they need to find a way to merge MacOS and iPadOS so this becomes the de facto portable Mac with touch screens instead of messing about with the laptop range over a decade after many other manufacturers did that.

[@dgjwngwergwr8782]

@@billymania11You made yourself look like an android stan, I bet you wouldn’t have a problem if he was overly positive about Android

[@1EdgarA]

Now only if he can go after Tesla. He did mention the Cybertruck about its recall in a Waveform episode. But I think he should have made a video about it.

[@zeyy84]

@@dgjwngwergwr8782how did you infer that he’s an Android Stan from that comment 😐

[@zachellis147]

"Maybe that makes TOO much sense." The amount of times I've felt this way about technology lol. Especially Apple

[@tehcomputerman]

lol it was such a bad take though. Pencil is on that side because that is the orientation used when docked on a keyboard

[@yaksher]

In this case, putting it on the opposite side doesn't work well because keyboards and stuff cover that side and it would be awkward to tuck stuff in and like... anyone who wants to pay $200 for the new pencil is probably going to want the new screen anyway. Like, yeah, if they really wanted to, they probably could have made it work, but it's relatively reasonable.

[@ihavenot]

@@tehcomputerman Shh... don't deprive him of his little ego trip.

[@Owen2108]

@@tehcomputerman Thats an even worse take when you consider theres at least 800 million people on the planet that are left handed. Why wouldnt Apple in all of their 'wisdom' make it ambidextrous?

[@DiamondMaster115]

Despite the iPad pro getting the M4 chip & OLED screen, removing the ultra wide camera and bumping the price up by $200-300 still feels like a little too much. And considering you would have to buy more Apple hardware and software to fully utilize the product, I dont feel like this should be recommended to the average consumer under any circumstances anymore...

[@NoName.0152]

I mean I agree, but sticking a hyper computer chip in a tablet is pretty cool, and it’s the thinnest device

[@jlehm]

Shouldn’t be recommended period. At this point there no reason not to just buy a used one that’s several generations old if you don’t already have an iPad.

[@boulderdash555]

If someone needs an iPad, why not recommend it? Upgrade - No, New = Yes. Just OLED display makes it all "worth" it.

[@iCrackr]

@@NoName.0152it’s like sticking an Audi V12 into a Toyota Yaris, too much power it can’t use

[@pauljoseph8338]

At this point, why not just merge the iPad and MacBook?!?! Nobody wants/needs both.

[@LifeIsTest786]

desperately waiting for your full review

[@jmpersic]

Well I for one feel validated. As soon as that product event was over, I immediately ordered ... a refurbished 3rd generation Ipad Pro. Basically all I wanted was M-something, ProMotion, and FaceID. No need to spend 500 bucks more for that.

[@POLAR_BAR]

The fact that the iPad is already expensive and yet 100$ more for a Nano Tech Texture is crazy

[@TeddyLeppard]

If you are very cost sensitive, Apple products really aren't for you. They never have been.

[@staunxzy]

​@TeddyLeppard Honestly I'd say macbooks are strangely reasonably priced at this point, spec-spec comparison they're overpriced; but the longevity / build quality are worth the premium imo. My 2017 macbook air still manages all day battery and is in decent shape, where other companies go out of their way to make their laptops fragile

[@mrtwills]

Work harder

[@ErykDante]

​@@TeddyLeppard Even rich people find Apple products to be expensive, nothing to do with being cost sensitive.

[@CarlWiganerUK]

Then you do as advised & manage with OLED.

[@benprovan]

Me. I was asking for a thinner iPad. I’m a heavy 12.9” iPad Pro user for personal computing stuff. I hold it sans case all the time. Thinner and lighter is a huge upgrade to my daily experience, not to mention screen bump. M4 power bump doesn’t matter, except that it allows for higher energy efficiency and therefore smaller batteries, smaller thermal envelope…and thus thinner iPad.

[@JESROFFicial-MX]

2:48 2:49 “what could possibly go wrong” -Zack from Jerry Rig Everything starts to pop up- This has to be one of the many funny gags the editors put in these videos.

[@StuHolland]

Ok no one wanted or needed a thinner iPad, but the engineering to make something so powerful so thin is frankly incredible

[@DarcyCrumb]

Yep, unreal

[@alstonmiller212]

They are trying to save money in manufacturing

[@playerroku4412]

Unreal? Lol. It's a tablet.

[@Rocksteady72a]

Um, I'm not sure when having a lighter device became "unwanted" but ok

[@alejammi]

Yeah takes real skills to engineer a worse product just to make it a couple mm thinner. Just give more battery and thermal performance instead. Its just a sales gimmick for stupid people.

[@xXYellie12Xx]

I am a graphic designer and a CX designer, and I desperately want the iPad to be something I can use at work to replace my laptop. The hardware is incredible, but at the moment the only application that is better on iPad than MacBook Pro is something like procreate. The apps that would revolutionise the way I work if they were actually entirely useable on iPad would be things like the Adobe illustrator, Photoshop, indesign, figma, Miro, etc but at the moment they are just hollow feature-lacking and glitchy versions of their computer selves. The iPad has the potential to truly revolutionise the way we design (not just illustrate), but at the moment the IPad is just an incredibly powerful tool that can’t provide thorough enough usability on essential design applications to make it worth purchasing in addition or instead of my MacBook Pro.

[@franklingoodwin]

As long as iPads have iPadOS, which let's face it is really just iOS they will never be a real Macbook replacement.

[@AirbusA--si4kw]

What about Affinity Designer? It has most of the features of Desktop Adobe Illustrator with the benefit of being on the iPad. There’s also Affinity Photo (equivalent to Photoshop) and Affinity Publisher (equivalent to InDesign). Also, none of them are subscription-based like that of Adobe’s suite of softwares.

[@xXYellie12Xx]

@@franklingoodwin exactly, which is super annoying. What I want is a Apple version of the surface pro haha

[@andyH_England]

@@franklingoodwin MacOS is not touch-friendly. This means Apple would have to have two MacOS versions, one reworked for touch and the current version. Imagine the 11-inch iPad Pro with MacOS on and realize it would be a mess. You would be restricted to using a trackpad for most things. Then you might as well buy a MacBook. I have both, which is the best in both worlds. As I keep each for 6+ years, I renew one every three years.

[@apennameandthata2017]

ipad os is even ussless for word processing.

[@pntruongan2005]

The sneaky JerryRigEverything poping up really got me there bro.

[@lnAmberClad]

Lmaoooooooo dude seriously that killed me 😂

[@upsidedownChad]

LMAO

[@indieshack4476]

As always, an excellent video about the latest iPads - keep up the good work!

[@snazzy]

I find it very peculiar the bezel on the “nano-texture” glass is still glossy. Makes the lesser contrast ratio even more apparent. 😂 Wonder what the motivation was...

[@tcc1234]

lmao

[@majesticdragonfly]

what was apple thinking…?

[@ThatDudeGuru]

is it better for drawing? that was the only perspective i could appreciate but it not being replaceable/removable means it would have to be of an insane quality

[@H.DISTRICT]

very strange. Etched glass was a tradeoff with the steam deck that a lot of people had mixed feelings on because it grayed the OLED blacks a little.

[@Retronyx]

They could've done the same thing on the S24 Ultra but no, apple make it worse on the iPad

[@stevenyoung1141]

Thank you for not falling for a over hyped view point and more thoughtful response.

[@wonrei]

Where ipad mini. No one cares?

[@Jedielson.Almeida]

So you even know MKBHD at all?

[@Kevintendo]

@@Jedielson.Almeidawas gonna say lol are they new?

[@CeresIsAwesome]

I agree. 😂I had ordered the M4 with the nanotexture glass and didn't think any reviews would come out this rapidly. Cancelled and resent my order with the texture taken off. I would've maybe ruined the screen right out of the box by wiping it down I guess.

[@glassmw9823]

@@CeresIsAwesome yeah this is crazy. It’ll be interesting to see how the nano screen works and how easy it is to mess up/damage the screen. I’m sure folks will try that out and see how much force it takes to bend it also, there are always some loons looking to try to break it, but I’m thankful for it in order to know how fragile these things are 😂🤷‍♂️

[@chris61986]

I have an iPad Pro 3rd gen. Still works perfectly. Haven't seen slowdown in anything. All I do is watch videos while I fall asleep, surf the web, and play a handful of games on occasion. Prior to that, I had the 1st gen Pro, which still worked fine, but I just wanted the new one. My wife's iPad air is 4-5 years old and she hasn't complained about any issues with it. As far as tech goes, iPads are the most "durable" device out there. There's very little reason to ever buy the new one outside of just wanting the new one. My 1st gen Pro is still in a drawer somewhere, and I bet it'd still be completely usable (assuming the battery's not completely busted) even though it came out like 8 years ago. Not an Apple stan, but as far as tablets go, I can't see any reason you'd buy anything other than an iPad. They just seem to be the best mobile devices out there.

[@sagichnicht6748]

To me, the big thing is that it seems they managed to make those ipads vastly more energy efficient. So the point of the M4 is exactly that, like Marques indicated in between. I think this is a big thing but none that would or should trigger a buy of course. In the PC world things go in the wildly wrong direction with every generation of graphics card being vastly more wasteful than the previous one. It is great to see that at least in some mobile application we see that it doesn't have to be that way. Yes I know, the performance of an 4090 isn't possible today without drowning it in electricity but the thing is that this peak performance is pushed way beyond diminishing returns.

[@venkateshnaidu2133]

2:48 Jerry popping up was hilarious!

[@lloydswaggedout]

Right cause we already know what’s about to happen

[@cryptorellyt]

Is he important?

[@kulrajsingh2017]

Bend test gonna be wild

[@2yldy]

yessir

[@ruben619448]

For a split second when you said the nano texture costs $100 more I thought you were going to say the microfiber is only $100 and my mind thought “yea that sounds like what they would do”

[@rafapradellatube]

I was believing in that until I saw your comment. Feels pretty on brand

[@jamesmartin8005]

Well, remember it needs a very special microfiber cloth to clean the screen or it will ruin it. (and cost $800 to replace). And guess what microfiber is only going to be allowed? The Apple only one, that they will change at minimum $50 for. I also would not be suprised if not using the special Apple only cloth to clean the screen will void your Warranty as well.

[@ifeanyinwachukuw4019]

still the most truthful and honest reviewer in my books any day

[@phizix5023]

I'm still using my iPad Pro 3rd gen with the a12x Bionic chip I bought new like 6 or 7 years ago. I'm still getting all the updates and it runs just as well as the day I got it with zero lag or stuttering doing anything. Hoping I can get another 5 years out of it.

[@peterbustin2683]

2:46 I was just thinking whether it would survive a Jerry Rig test, and up pops his head, lol.

[@SeanRademeyer]

JerryRig ‘entry’ was brilliant!

[@BillAnt]

Jerry.... "Hold my screen scraper while I bend this new iPad into an Origami". lol

[@devtank]

I got the distinct impression that this launch was aimed at the over 40s. Cook showed up in his best grey cardigan and pop sneakers.

[@joelhubeny7554]

No way with a Videogame CG Mesh dynamic rendering RayTracing M4 chip. Most people aren't intelligent enough to realize this is The Best Portable Computer and Game console made today. for the Youth

[@prabhavidyalankara6773]

​@@joelhubeny7554theres no game using mesh shading on mobile, only one recently was the alan wake 2 iirc. Ray tracing will probably be very weak since to properly ray trace you need a fuckton of cores which this doesnt have

[@aknabi]

"Big Dad Energy"

[@eldonad]

​@@joelhubeny7554 Can't wait for Candy Crush raytracing update !

[@Owen2108]

@@joelhubeny7554 Except its not because you can only play a minuscule fraction of games made on it, and you can't even load half the games ever made if you want consider it a computer. Also anyone smart enough to know and be excited about raytracing has had it for 8 years with Nvidia or 5 years with AMD. This product is aimed at only the people foolish enough to stick with Apple software.

[@FattyPok]

0:05 JESUS. Look at Marques's Sunglass marks🤣

[@4RILDIGITAL]

he performance and the specs of the new iPads are indeed mind-blowing, but they seem to lack uniqueness other than just having more power. It's still an iPad. Really hoping that the WWDC brings some revolutionary changes to the iPad OS.

[@berengerchristy6256]

I'm hoping that someday apple makes a macbook ultimate or something that is essentially a macbook pro but the display is an ipad pro that can fold all the way back, allowing you to use it like either a tablet or a macbook. otherwise I'll just hold onto my m1 ipad pro forever

[@Akkbar21]

They will never do that. It's all about forcing you to buy a macbook. Apple customers are sheep and keep empowering Apple to screw you over. Their mobile devices are great. I have an iphone, but god damn. If they were held to the same standards as the PC market by their customers, you'd get all these things you want.

[@cheeeeezewizzz]

​@berengerchristy6256 So the original surface book design basically?

[@andyH_England]

Like most PC makers, AI is where they are going. The iPad will not run macOS, but AI will make it closer in ability to a desktop OS.

[@comesignotus9888]

@@andyH_England AI will never compensate for the ability to install the applications YOU want and need, not just those that Apple in their infinite wisdom considers suitable for you. It will never be a real substitute for owning the device, it will just be a new guard in a fancy digital prison.

[@chrisr-dog6824]

Thanks for the tip about Nano Texture. Very informative.

[@243300000]

Most people are better off with a matte screen protector which is cheaper and also replaceable if you damage it. I’ve used them on every iPad I’ve ever owned going back to the original iPad Air and I can’t really stand using an iPad without one.

[@lexwelsh3511]

Marques, The reason that the pencil is not on the other side is because of the Magic Keyboard. No hate here, I love your videos. Just wanted to point out why that likely would not work.

[@devanarayans5131]

Or maybe.. mayyybee the greediest corp on earth justvwanted everyoneto buy more of their new stuff.. I'm just saiyin

[@rajvardhansalunkhe3669]

Typical apple move.

[@augustogalindo8687]

@@devanarayans5131 even if that is true, moving the magnets to the other side simply doesn’t make sense, wouldn’t work with the Magic Keyboard even when open, simple as that.

[@andyH_England]

Yes, he didn't think that through in his downbeat first look. Negativity is the new normal for Apple products; it drives views as the anti-Apple mob loves to flex Apple stuff. The whole wireless pen charging had to be redesigned, which in tech usually happens after 3-5 years; you can improve charging.

[@lexwelsh3511]

@@augustogalindo8687 That’s right. It also just wouldn’t be convenient, as resting the device on your lap would feel awkward.

[@RoysIdea]

So great review, but am missing news about solving the side channel vulnerability. Also clear that buying a new one requires you to buy all new accessories as the old ones are incompatible. Conclusion: stick to what I have and don’t buy new one.

[@thomasquigley7040]

You're the first person to point out why the pencil isn't cross compatible. As I suspected, it's because of the camera now taking the place of the old magnet.

[@KHVLIQ]

because hes him

[@peter65zzfdfh]

Seems pretty obvious, but Mike Hurley pointed it out about half a day earlier. In-fact he suggested they do it exactly this way months ago. (And obviously some engineer years before that thought it up.) Guess it is obvious.

[@ronaldbell7429]

All the thoughtful discussions about why the camera hadn't moved yet were about the inside hardware. It seemed certain that if they somehow put the camera on the side where the pencil connected, there were a lot of changes taking place, hidden from view. But yeah, it's nice that someone pointed it out aloud because other reviewers totally missed it

[@boomboxkat]

Making the Pro so much thinner and lighter than the Air is the most confusing decision they could have made. Why not do it to the Air as a test run THEN bring it to the Pro? If I pay that much then it had better not snap.

[@doccdisrepecc7307]

M2 isn't anywhere near as efficient so they need to keep the thickness for the battery. It's more confusing they've released M4 so soon into the Macbook M3 life cycle.

[@TheRenegade...]

Why not make the iPad Air ultra-thin and give the iPad Pro an M3 Pro or M4 Pro and active cooling? Sure, literally nothing on an iPad uses that much power, but it mirrors the MacBook lineup and actually makes the product names make sense for once

[@shapesinaframe]

Waiting for the Air to be opened up and discover some metal block inside to make it heavier than the Pro 😅

[@nitind]

They literally told you. The Air gets features from the Pro once the cost of them goes down enough to put them in the more affordable line.

[@kleanish]

maybe air doesn’t mean air? maybe apple dgaf about pedantic keyboard warriors? maybe both!

[@jethrowilson]

People didn't ask for them to be thinner, but they did ask for them to be lighter - the magic keyboard iPad combo was rinsed for being so heavy.

[@peterm13]

next iPad model can be used for self defence, or just chopping onions

[@MinhLe-mn9fx]

This will open up more the limitation of these 3d modeling software. I’m excited to see what it can do

[@iXzenoS]

Would really like to see some in-depth comparisons and analysis on the Nano-Texture display vs the regular glossy one as this is something we probably can't change once the purchase is made, so it's a pretty big feature to consider before buying one.

[@valuemastery]

I did that comparison in the Apple store when I bought my Studio Display, which does also offer the nano texture. The effect of reducing glare is phenomenal. While I can control the lighting in my workspace, so that no lights directly reflect on the screen, on the normal glas I still can see a light reflection of my face in black areas, while this is completely gone with the nano texture. On the other hand, the nano display had considerably less contrast and looked a bit washed out, while the normal one has really great colors and contrast. When displaying text or fine details like fine lines, I could see that the edges of fine details like on letters are washed out and softened a bit, which annoyed me. So it comes down to your requirements. Are you working with images and video, and can't control the lighting in your workspace? Then the nano texture could be right for you. When working mainly with text, for example web browsing, writing documents, programming, then the standard display is way better. Personally, I went with the standard display. From what I've seen from the new iPad reviews so far, the advantages and disadvantages of the iPad nano texture are exactly the same as on the Studio Display.

[@andyH_England]

If you look at Samsung fans and how they hyped the new anti-glare display on the S24 Ultra, then you will accept that it is beneficial.

[@muhammadragilsaputra3067]

​@@andyH_Englandanti glare and nano textured is different, nano texture is the same like paper display on Matepad 11 Papermate Edition, Anti glare just using regular non textured display.

[@chrischerry3109]

It’ll just get worn off over time. Go with the regular glass and get a magnetically attached/removable matte screen protector.

[@creekfreak1997]

I'm just over here patiently waiting for a refreshed iPad mini

[@tbillington]

Yes! I love the mini form factor.

[@bozhidarmihaylov]

Dreaming for a New MiniAirPro 😊

[@czaroox]

But it’s just a few people with prefer mini ipad the didn’t sell good

[@TarTw45]

I was hoping to at least start with 128GB as a minor upgrade, I didn't even expect a CPU bump. I guess I was hoping for too much.

[@anthonycampolo2216]

A magic keyboard for ipad mini is my dream

[@colgateprotection]

That Jerry rigs everything call out @2:50 had me on the floor 🤣

[@BriteBytes]

@@switchunboxing It's often the thinner products that fail his durability test. Specifically, the bend test.

[@xiol]

Jerry literally shaking with anticipation at the bend test.

[@switchunboxing]

@@BriteBytes Ohhhhhhhhhh yeah hahaha so it’s a nod to the iPhone 15 Pro Max bend

[@lindokuhlenxumalo2281]

I'm dead

[@Phoenix-tc6dp]

@@BriteBytes look at is tab 9 ultra bend test. it won against him

[@LucaRaddi]

I use a 2017 10.5-inch iPad for work (I do illustrations and tattoos) and for home entertainment. Up until the new iPads came out, I hadn’t even thought about replacing it because the battery life is still amazing and the screen is still bright. Basically, it’s been a perfect device for the past seven years. I remember when it first came out, people thought it was overpowered. So, all this to say that its power is probably more about future-proofing for software developments rather than an immediate need. I hope.

[@tyke_1203]

I have the m1 iPad Pro, and I still don’t need to upgrade. It already has 120hz display , it’s very fast, battery life is ok. It already many years old and still doesn’t need and upgrade ❤

[@tangoESPECIAL]

Yeah. Got the M2 iPad Pro due to mini-LED display and will keep it for a while. OLED is probably a tad nicer but not $1500+ nice once you add the new and even more expensive keyboard…

[@mucanan]

Exactly my same thoughts. I have absolutely no need for a new ipad in a long time, hopefully

[@ainajoe5874]

same the only hype for me is the tander oled. Mini led okay but oled more better

[@myjeffix]

@@ainajoe5874well is a whole company like Sony could skip oled for a year it means oled is actually just overhyped

[@theholt2ic219]

I was thinking about it because an oled screen is something I’d consider just the price bump really put me off. I think I’ll wait for the next iPad Pro 11 to upgrade. My M1 iPad still gots the most important feature to me and that’s 120hz lol I think it can last me until the next one for sure. Also if the trade in value was a bit higher then I would have probably considered it more too. My iPad only gets $395 not sure if that’s enough. I wasn’t convinced when I saw that

[@GetIrked]

No offense to Marques, but Ridge wallets are stupid expensive for what you get. My Travelambo is $8.99, has RFID blocking, and is FAR thinner than a Ridge wallet. Sure, it's "only' leather and not carbon fiber, but at less than 1/10 the price, who are we kidding?

[@muhammadzeeshan1015]

Exactly and on the contrary he is talking about ungodly expensive Magic Keyboard.although i find it expensive too..but 100bucks for this wallet no way

[@alejammi]

Or just buy a secrid miniwallet. Superior product for half the price with better functionality and card protection.

[@ErnieZee]

techbros watch and techbros will buy tho. It's all about getting money in the bag. I have never bought anything these youtubers peddle.

[@ChavoRoJa]

I like how you slid the image of jerry rig everything 😂it's a good move

[@greyATK]

Yeah, those 5,1mm are screaming bendgate

[@ryanchristianmenierva6809]

That was hilarious 😂

[@keithwilliams7520]

😂😂😂😂

[@jb-sh1yh]

Just upgraded from a 2018 pro to the new one. If you are in doubt don’t. The sound quality is also a lot thinner than the old one.

[@augustortiz]

M2 iPad Pro owner here: literally no one needs any of these upgrades aside from the efficiency bonus. Apple keeps playing the specs game but the OS makes the upgrades worthless.

[@Cotelw8345]

Same with m1. The mini led is still nice. Oled is better but I don’t think that much better. It is great on the phone. But going to the iPad Pro m1 12.9 it is not that much different. It is super bright and it looks great.

[@a7mad9999999]

M4 will drain battery faster

[@GC-kk4et]

@@a7mad9999999no.

[@ctgaming168]

Well the screen is much better. No more light bleeds.

[@Cotelw8345]

@@ctgaming168 maybe so but who in the right mind would buy the new one if you have the m1 12.9. I have never noticed that. And I doubt 99.9 of the users care.

[@corican]

They mentioned iPad mini at the end, so I am holding out hope for a refresh later this year. That's all I want.

[@peter65zzfdfh]

Hoping for a mini pro, or at least a mini air. Doesn't even need to be that *fast* but want them to actually shrink those *larger than the previous design* bezels. Want the ultimate, take it on vacation device, 5G/ebooks/movies/camera etc.

[@awfulunicorn]

I just love how much longevity these gain from being so stupidly overpowered. My 2021 iPad Pro still feels super snappy and I don’t see myself upgrading for another couple of years

[@piotr78]

You paid around 1000 for a tablet and are surprised it still runs good 2.5 to 3 years later?

[@abhishek.rathore]

My $160 phone from 2019 still works very well and I won't be upgrading anytime soon.

[@Rubiecat]

"I just love how much longevity these gain" >> talks about a product from 2021.... bro holding on for less than 3 years is NOT longevity it's the basic minimal requirement for this tier of product, if in three additional years it still feels perfect enough that you'd go on for 2/3 to three years again THEN it will qualify as longevity

[@Clickworker101]

It better does 100-200$ for every update supported year is my metric

[@_Digitalguy]

longevity? The M1 pro and air will have similar longevity. Battery degradation will probably kill them before anything else... and don't tell me you can have battery replaced by Apple because they go out of their way to refuse the service (I talk by experience, my 2017 pro has less than 3 hours battery life and they say it's still 87% and no amount of money will convince them to do a battery service, and it will be obsolete this year with no more battery service allowed)

[@brianmarchesi4387]

Appreciate your realistic approach to these Apple upgrades. I am more excited about the premise of the M4 getting introduced into a newer Mac Studio where the power of it can be more put to use with demanding applications for recording and video editing.

[@Nikitikitavvi]

Marques your videos are always the best. Thank you for the preview. As for the nanotexture - i feel like getting a screenprotector with texture pretty much does the same trick, but it's also a screen protector, it's infinitely cheaper and doesnt requre 1TB configuration :D

[@CorySimpson]

it would actually be interesting to see a display quality analysis between the texture, a screen protector, and base OLED

[@Nikitikitavvi]

@@CorySimpson true that! hopefully mkbhd or mrwhosetheboss covers that topic

[@ronaldbell7429]

Hard to know at this point. I've got a screen protector on my iPad and it's definitely a separate thing, both from a visual standpoint and because things sometimes catch the edge.

[@jc-diaz487]

2:49 “what could possibly go wrong “ *Jerry Rig pops up! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ARcodm-u4b]

Fr😂

[@porkchopsuitcase9906]

“And as you can see with just one swing of this standard carpenter’s hammer the display is no longer working” 😂

[@jaimem1788]

Yeah if it has same design flaw as last iPad pro gonna have to baby it so u don't accidently press too hard in the middle and crack the entire thing!

[@AdRock]

Explain the joke please

[@porkchopsuitcase9906]

@@AdRock jerryRigEverything “durability tests” every new piece of tech by trying to bend it. This thing is thin and might snap right in half haha

[@marksutter182]

The way they update iPads works for me because I usually only upgrade when I NEED to. I'm not really missing much from generation to generation, but when I get a new one, it's usually a lot better than what I've been using.

[@finchhawthorne1302]

Yeah. This exactly.

[@KC-bi9jw]

Exactly, tech KZbinrs don’t understand this because they buy every iteration the moment it comes out and complain. It’s like buying a Toyota Camry every single year and complaining it doesn’t change enough for you. I’m highly disappointed in all tech reviewers including Marques

[@daleycarter]

​@@KC-bi9jwThats a very good point, it's not a realistic perspective for the average consumer. It's like reviewers have a blind spot that there are people out there that don't own last year's device.

[@zakariarakhrour9158]

@@daleycarter Still good to know how it compares to last year's, maybe you could get last year's at a cheaper price instead of this

[@KC-bi9jw]

@@zakariarakhrour9158 that is true, but that is not the TONE these reviewers are giving. They all sound “disgusted” lol

[@gnlzjavier]

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEW WALLET YOU’RE LAUNCHING!!!! Yes business man!!!!

[@ajvYT]

2 MKBHD vids in a day!

[@carterhendershot8649]

It’s Christmas 🤩

[@TheOnlyName]

You love to see it!

[@yellowdrangon]

Honestly maybe the first time in channel history.

[@rolly6926]

I was just about to type this. Watched the new Google pixel phone review like 3 hours ago then boom I saw this. I was like what???????

[@immMoon]

​@@GyvrcrdfutihhuyvthjvvjvjyvI slept after watching the last video now watching the new one first thing in the morning haha

[@sergeyegiyan9577]

On the whole thinner iPad point: this is not exactly new in the industry. Galaxy Tabs have been 5.4-5.7mm since Tab S7+, which came out in 2020 and was all-metal. Since then there were 2 more generations without any sound durability problems, Samsung even introduced 14.6 inch monster Ultra model, which is 5.4mm. If you have followed Apple, you'll notice how familiar this move is and that it is a part of their strategy. They wait until competitors do proof of concept and iterate 2-3 generations of any feature, then they introduce it with a spec bump. So take something Samsung has tested for 4 years, then make it even a bit thinner (5.1-5.3mm vs 5.4-5.7mm) to become a market leader. This is classic Apple move.

[@normalchannel2185]

And ironically, why the fuck do you want your ipad to be this thin? i mean obv it should not be a THICC boy, but instead of taking the route of: Oh we can make this chip take 50% less power, so we're gonna reduce the battery, they should have taken the route of keeping the battery same and making it last 50% longer.

[@davidalright]

So what ? It’s still the thinnest so they’re right ? Right ?

[@r0main.895]

Only some product escape this kind of reasoning unfortunately but at least the Apple lineup is starting to becomes super good with technological marvel for each category. Still hate the iPad since 2019 tho

[@koto483]

At least with the tab s8 ultra that thing thermal throttles easily under load because of the thinness. Saying this from ownership. Having the M4 stuffed in a similar package will only spawn the same issues

[@DEM94]

@@normalchannel2185so next year they can say: “hey! We’ve improved the battery life! Starting at 1199!”

[@mehulshyam404]

"What could...what could possible go wrong?" Jerry casually popping up😂

[@mehulshyam404]

@4070super most prolly😂

[@mariocorona797]

The Samsung ultra survived and its almost as thin, so you never know

[@NYkIV_ofIVthKINGX]

This the comment I was looking for 🤣🤣

[@nigilvalikodath]

His name is Zach😂

[@mehulshyam404]

@@NYkIV_ofIVthKINGX won't disappoint 😂

[@w2.ill_]

With the erasable logo and graphics on the announcement page, I thought for sure the new pencil is gonna have an eraser. Boy was I wrong.

[@GrimStoolOfficialClassicTurbo]

It has an eraser, you double tap the side and it switches tools. Faster than flipping around. The pens I've had that have had an eraser on the back have not been great. It's just a worse second input with worse pressure sensing and all that stuff. Much better to use the amazingly accurate tip. As I say that I also need to mention that I absolutely hate accidental double taps and just getting the eraser randomly...

[@prixmalcollects9332]

@what app is that @1:15?

[@th3ch0z3n]

@@GrimStoolOfficialClassicTurbo Why don't they just have a hold-in button like the samsung smart pens? I can understand if people don't like the nibs (Apple nibs last considerably longer) on the smart pen but everything "added" are just features that were already on the s-pen, I also dislike the thickness of the pen pro

[@amarthrogue]

Zbrush

[@priyanshu1667]

​@@th3ch0z3n the tech inside the apple pencil is far better than what's in the Spen, and that's coming from a note user. The accuracy of the apple pencil, sensitivity and palm rejection is unmatched

[@fir6487]

As an artist who use iPad Pro daily , always excited to see what’s new and expectations on helping and improving art , animations and design work. Art Studio display like Wacom is the benchmark to beat. Hoping to see more large screen ipad , textures screen paper like , Apple Pencil pro with different nibs and others. I think you should hire an artist to review the iPad Pro and Apple Pencil .

[@DwindleFlip]

I agree. I'm writing this with a Wacom Cintiq Pro 27 in front of me. I love my Ipad Pro M2. I'm likely upgrading. I'm curious if the nano etched screen can provide a similar "tooth" to that of the Cintiq. So Im awaiting the review of these new features from an a artist that is familar with Wacom's cintiq Pro 27 becuase while I love my iPad Pro M2 and Pencil 2.0... Wacom provides a far better drawing/zbrush sculpting experience due to the texture of the screen, the pen pressure sensor which does have some travel that makes it more pleasant to use than the rigid apple pencil tip. The customizable nibs are a big deal... as are buttons. The Pro Pen 3 is fantastic, has far more buttons and is more comfortable than any Apple Pencil. The touch button feature on the apple pencil is pretty bad IMO. Give us buttons. Anyways I look forward to getting an iPad Pro 13inch M4 with Pro Pencil but I cant order it until I get a few answers to the questions I have. We need Artists to review these devices. and not just ipad artists. I'm talking about serious, sit down workstation computer artists that live on Wacom Cintiqs.

[@fir6487]

@@DwindleFlip yup i'm still using the ipad pro 2018, still work great for daily drawing procreate but need more power for an animation design. Waiting for a review first, but probably just buy the new 13" ipad air as the pro maybe overkill. Curious on the nano screen.

[@g43654]

Artist? Is that still a thing? Just joking.

[@fir6487]

@@g43654 haha i've got that "artist ? Is that still a thing " a lot lately. No worries ~ just doing what i do best 🫡😊

[@nauscakes1868]

I'd love to see an artist review the iPad. One of my biggest pet peeves from tech reviewers is they look at the iPad and go "this is basically just a shitty MacBook, what idiot would ever buy this?" As if they literally cannot comprehend that artists even exist, lol. It's like almost every tech youtuber completely glosses over the artist aspect.

[@GFourGadget]

I bet Jerryrigeverything is smiling looking at the thinness of this new iPad Pro. Can't wait for his bend test 😂

[@GaryGaryGaga]

Yes

[@gastontwo]

😂😂😂

[@bigphillip365]

He's going to announce the discovery of the new apple foldable in the video as well! Truly we live in amazing times!!

[@wps1150]

Oh boy…

[@jaimem1788]

Yeah gonna wait on that before I buy this cuz otherwise gonna be expensive paperweight LOL

[@IgnacioGiri]

As a technology super enthusiast, I'm baffled by how thin the new iPad is, I absolutely love it! I was expecting you to be more excited about it, though.

[@Wild.Bunny.Galaxy]

My current iPad is almost 10 years old. I was waiting for this gen to come out before deciding which one I want to replace it with. Still probably won't get it till next year so I have time to watch all of the review videos.

[@norcodaev]

Same here. My iPad pro is going on 7 years old, and I’ve been patiently waiting for the start of the next generation so I can buy another one at the start of its generation. I don’t think I’m going to wait though. I’m gonna dive in. I’ve been waiting long enough already, lol. 🤖