Jim Ross shoots on the Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels Iron Man Match

[@TonyG8992]

The Bret vs Shawn fued is my favorite wrestling rivalry of all time, not a single dull moment.

[@theonofswords3764]

The Bret Austin feud was better television. Unfortunately the Bret Shawn feud was more behind the scenes than anything. They only wrestled twice ever after they were both made men. One with both as faces and the other with both as tweeners. There wasn’t much feud build up to either of those matches

[@bryantcraighead1694]

People give bret a hard about taking himself and the business to seriously..but look at wrestling today 😡

[@sese6227]

Lol....what? It's PG garbage, Bret would love it.

[@guyincognito5706]

@@sese6227 I believe he meant that no one takes their character seriously and bought into the company motto that “wins don’t mean anything”

[@itchyisvegeta]

@@sese6227 It's not the PG content that's the problem. It's the lack of good story, crappy commentary, and lack luster in ring psychology that is the problem, PG or no PG. The end of Nitro wasn't PG, but it still sucked.

[@prposalx380]

@@itchyisvegetaexactly right

[@carlosfryer3887]

Egotistical turd didn't want to lose the title in Canada and cries about getfing double crossed in Montreal. Every other great American wrestler dropped the belt in America why is this selfish douche any different? It's cool, Karma got him back and he went down with the ship in WCW.

[@thejesman]

I was 12 years old when this happened. It was my favorite wrestling match for years and years, and it's still in my top five.

[@MrMugen1985]

Same except I was like 10 lol We lucked out as far as growing up in that era :D

[@joshmiller5197]

I was 14 and exact same. You said it friend.

[@oneshotperrotte1541]

Me too bro! I was 12 and its definitely in my top 5!

[@bamaboyburns8079]

Dude I was 12 as well this made me the biggest hbk fan his 96 run was incredible this is in my top 5

[@oneshotperrotte1541]

@@bamaboyburns8079 um, Bret hart is my favorite wrestler ever! One of there best matches together ever! I guess we have to be enemies now!? Lol!

[@aaront.akabiggs631]

Whoa whoa whoa... Bret was 8 years older than Shawn!? Sure had me fooled

[@the_gray_hatter]

My all-time favorite wrestling match. Brilliantly paced and executed.

[@Leo-yn5fx]

All the credit to Shawn to being able to wrestle with Bret near perfectly the whole hour.

[@sese6227]

@@Leo-yn5fx this will make a few people angry, I'm sure 🤣

[@eddiemarin2984]

I always felt like this match was underappreciated. For me my favorite match of all time

[@LeoWhalen1933]

​@@sese6227i hate Shawn but I think it's a compliment towards Bret. Shawn Was able to keep up with a solid wrestling match and didn't do his usual Shawn match full of high spots, getting sympathy and then huge comeback.

[@adriannieves2578]

Some people on this chat sayin the GOAT Shawn Michaels is overrated are crazy man if u didn’t like him cause if his attitude then I can understand that but to say he’s overrated as a wrestler is jus silly

[@LeoWhalen1933]

He's not overrated at all. Bret is better though....

[@ChadIsAmazingMakeADifference]

in my opinion perhaps the 2 greatest in ring performers of all time. bar none.

[@williamk2257]

I agree there I’d also jam Macho Man in there too he could make Warrior even put in a great 30 minute match. He was pretty damn good those 2 had a good chemistry like Shawn and Bret. Also Savage and Steamboat at WM3 is widely considered the best match of all time.

[@d_ruggs]

yea, I'd agree. I really don't like Shawn as a person for the way he carried himself, but it's undeniable the guy had some of the best matches ever. Bret's #1 though :P

[@stanettiels7367]

Kurt Angle is up there. Kurt Hennig (Mr Perfect) too.

[@chrisdennis2804]

For me this was my all time favorite match

[@TheBoosht]

Bret and Shawn's matches will forever stand the test of time. 2 REAL Stars who had an amazing rivalry, competition and skills that to this day are revered and studied. Good times :)

[@stevewardlaw]

The greatest match of all-time.

[@valgallardo9632]

Wouldn't go that far

[@username-ye6hm]

@@valgallardo9632certainty in the discussion

[@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind]

Bahahaha...said nobody ever. The match is slow and boring

[@SmileyBoi21]

@@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind Well it was an Iron Man match and the crowd wasn't that into it. However, if it was done in the Carolinas the atmosphere would have gone crazy because that's what they dig. Still, the match was an instant classic but I wouldn't consider it as the best of all time.

[@rommelvillanueva8652]

The HitMan vs The Heartbreak Kid: 60 Minute Iron Man Match! One of the greatest matches of all time! At the time, it was totally unheard of to put two baby faces who were also the company’s top guys against each other. I thought that their rivalry was one of the catalysts leading to the baby stages of what was to be: The Attitude Era!

[@ericjackson7632]

I think not advertising the OT helped feul Bret's feelings of being screwed and gave him a legit gripe. It's a perfect setup for a rematch. If they tell the audience OT was going to happen, it lessens the need for a rematch.

[@jackmcgregor4025]

Brett and shawn were the greatest

[@themedianman9712]

This was the beginning of Bret Hart's 'justified heel' phase. His kayfabed complaint actually rings true. "60 minute iron man match". The challenger had 60 minutes to score more falls than the champion. He did not succeed. Bret was the "new gen" champ, even though he won the title close to WM9 after being in WM2. He probably kicked off the attitude era with his post-Sid match promo, but never gets recognized as AE performer. He seemed like his character was "Cause Vince has no else place to go," and that should have been his WCW character. Although I think they tried making him a "no label" type, but it was put over poorly and confused.

[@SpaceGhost92]

He was the champion in between the golden age and the attitude era. Also known as the worst point in wwe history.

[@TheRealDebussyFarts]

I recognize Bret as one of the pioneers of the attitude. He helped get Austin to the top, and boy did Bret’s heel work bring attitude. The reformation of the Hart Foundation and the angles that followed were just so fucking good. I miss those days for sure.

[@proboz]

@@TheRealDebussyFarts Bret knew how to work a mic and a crowd like the best of em, which makes it funny when people say he was bland. He pulled wicked heat and got monstrous pops at different points of his career, especially with the reformed Hart Foundation. Really played the patriotic bit to a T on both sides.

[@BabysitterSky]

@@proboz He could get some heat but his mic skills were pretty bad.

[@kwrbt2979]

Bret was the most underrated heel of all time

[@BluesRiffage]

I actually think Shawn's message to Earl was directed at Jose Lothario, who stepped into the ring to celebrate with Shawn after the pinfall. You can see Earl go directly to Jose to relay the message after and he gets out right away. It's been revealed that Shawn during this period was against the idea of having Jose with him at all, but Vince thought it would help his babyface image to have his trainer by his side. Shawn was so paranoid at this time that he was even afraid of Jose stealing his shine, so it only makes sense that Shawn would tell Earl to get rid of him because I'm certain that the whole title celebration moment was planned out in his head.

[@SharickSlasher]

This kinda makes sense.

[@EGarrett01]

Just rewatched it, it looks like Shawn starts talking to the ref as Jose is climbing in the ring, and the ref goes first to Bret and says something to Bret. Then the ref goes to Jose and clearly tells him to leave (and Jose puts his hand up like "yeah fine" and does). So it's not clear who it was aimed at.

[@caseystoran7435]

Yess thank you it’s clear as day if you actually pay attention he was talking about Jose.

[@d_ruggs]

wow, GREAT catch, well done.

[@itsaboutdamntime2804]

@@EGarrett01My theory is that he was telling Jose to get out but Earl assumed that he was talking about Bret, as Jose was Shawn’s manager and he probably thought Shawn wanted him in the ring. So he goes to tell Bret this, and Jose can be seen in the ring now. Shawn goes to tell Earl again, and he finally goes to Jose and tells him to get out, which he does. Either that or he was telling both of them to get out. But looking closely it seems like a misunderstanding.

[@nickm2483]

I definitely agree the title changes hands too often. Isn't HHH a 14 time champion or something? (I'm probably wrong on that but I'm too lazy to Google it). The point is if you're a 14 time champ, that means you've also lost the thing 14 times too. Surely it's more impressive to say you're a 3 time champ, but on each occasion you held the belt for at least 12+ months.

[@SupermanHopkins]

Well, when you're sticking the princess, you can be the champion as many times as you want. 🤣

[@sodaandcookies1]

@@SupermanHopkins a 14 time champ and no ones favorite wrestler lol

[@nicolasmendoza9270]

Lmao I always thought the same about Ric Flair they would always say 13 time champion lol wheres Hogan was like a 5 time champ

[@torhowell5202]

Mostly when they had two top champions

[@Sweeptheleg83]

@@nicolasmendoza9270 tbf, back in the 80s and very early 90s when flair was only like a 5 or 6 time champ it felt more legit because flair had some long runs in the 80s. It wasnt hot potatoe title changes like it was in the late 90s and 2000s.

[@deandoxtator7137]

I remember watching this match at my auntie house with all my uncles and cousins we were all watching this match. It was such a great match. Bret Heart will always be my favorite wrestler.

[@senorfish2503]

I grew up hating Bret Hart and always favored hbk. As I've gotten older, I still enjoy hbks matches but respect Bret so much more for all the backstage shit he had to deal with. Hbk was a crappy human during this period of time.

[@symz81]

Was shawn ur boy toy lol how could u cheer for him?

[@senorfish2503]

@@symz81 he was my boytoy. Then, now,...forever

[@symz81]

@@senorfish2503 lol u make me sick...

[@senorfish2503]

@@symz81 😆

[@caseykay6955]

Shawn didnt care about Bret at All...ALL THAT HEAT WAS ABOUT JEALOUSY FROM BRET...CAUSE HE KNEW SHAWN WAS 10× BETTER THAN HE'LL EVER BE....BRET WAS A DAMN GOOD TECHNICAL WRESTLER...BUT THE WWF ISNT ABOUT THAT...ITS ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT & HBK IS THE GOAT.....BRET WAS JEALOUS & THATS WHY ALL THE BACKSTAGE DRAMA HAPPENED

[@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207]

I don't think advertising the overtime would've been a good idea. It was an unexpected surprise /swerve and as others have said it gave Bret some justification when he started to say he was tired of getting screwed...

[@lorenllbj88]

That match was the GREATEST match in wrestling history. 5/5 stars. Wrestling for an HOUR? And being able to tell a great story with a controversial and satisfying ending? Perfect.

[@thepunditspundit1776]

Most realistic Ironman match. You would expect wrestlers to avoid the first fall with everything they have

[@Deanobucko917]

In the NHL playoffs, the team that scores first usually wins the game.

[@d_ruggs]

yea, my only critique for the match was the pacing of the first half, I think it could of used a few more of the highspots at the end moved to the front, then the holds would make more sense because they'd be tired, but some of the holds at the start when not much has happened end up feeling a bit like killing time. Just my opinion though.

[@reyjusuf]

It makes more sense than 3-2, 5-4 or whatever they come up with these days

[@danielmelvin4525]

@@d_ruggsthe pacing made perfect sense; they had an hour. Wrestling matches typically start with wrestling (which people refer to as rest holds). The way Bret used most holds anyways looks good and makes sense. They are always trying for counters and using the holds to wear down an opponent so they can make bigger moves later in the match.

[@ericjackson7632]

​@@reyjusufTotally agree. If you don't normally lose that often, why are you suddenly taking multiple falls in a match? I never understood it.

[@vanillathrilla2677]

Ric knew his role. Ric's role, he knew. Known was the role to Ric. The Ric role.

[@JohnnyLouis1145]

And he was never gonna give it up, never gonna let us down..

[@Krontok]

Never gonna drop the belt Never gonna take a fall Gonna take a DQ or count out!

[@Makainternational]

Know your role and shut your mouth! (The Rock)

[@nintendoswitchonlineisabad9491]

😆😆😂😂

[@tn4u23]

This made my day 🤣

[@matwilliams8012]

JR: I didn’t know that. JR, you did a DVD sit down interview with Bret and Shawn and the very topic of Shawn telling Bret to get the fuck out of the ring was raised. Either selective memory loss or he’s playing politics.

[@xsonicsparkx]

My recollection was that it was a work.

[@yellowrubberducky81]

Also interesting is that in Bret's book he says that Shawn was giving him stiff shots but in the recent A&E bio he did he said they were both giving one another stiff shots. I'm not saying Shawn didn't start it but, it seems there's some selective storytelling here by a few people.

[@greatwhitesufi]

@@yellowrubberducky81 Yup if you watch the match there are a couple of stiff shots by both guys and as the match went to the end it got better and better to watch

[@d_ruggs]

yea, Im a huge Bret fan, he's my #1, and I don't like Shawn much, but even I, after only thinking about it for a minute, can see that Shawn may have been working people with that comment. Like Bret himself said, they were trying to work the boys in the back, and they are the most likely people to pick up on that, especially if and other crew hear it and talk about it.

[@GEMINIVice1]

As a kid I always favored The Hitman over HBK. Yeah ppl can say he needed better mic skills, but damn could the man work in the ring. HBK, not taking anything from his wrestling skills...I didn’t like his attitude back when I was little either. I liked the Iron Man match. Even though he had to put HBK over....I still thought the Hitman was the better man in the ring that night.

[@BurnNotice3210]

Lol

[@Goldenbane]

I'm a huge Bret fan and find his work to be vastly superior to Shawn's. Shawn is a good promo and has excellent skills, but I think Bret is more creative and a better storyteller. Believe it or not, I disagree with the people who say Bret's mic work wasn't very good. He was good as a face or a heel...and people might not believe this, but that's hard to pull off. It's easy to tell the fans piss off and I'm the best and that other guy sucks, and I'm this and I'm that and be the arrogant asshole scenery chewing heel, but it's quite another thing to have to be the underdog and get people to like you yet still hold yourself with pride and confidence. Bret was good as a face and pretty darn good as a heel. Shawn's mic work was spectacular as a heel...but sorry to tick off Shawn fans...he sucked fucking balls as a face.

[@melekelewis2945]

@@Goldenbane you way off bret mic skills not good.He has no chrisma.Learn wrestling

[@EAchank]

I agree with u as a kid I felt HBK got lucky

[@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind]

You weren't supposed to like his attitude. He was meant to get heat

[@connor2197]

They might have hated each other. But....DAMN they worked great together! This match and Savage vs Steamboat are my favorite 2 matches of all TIME!!

[@d_ruggs]

Theres a dark match video floating around youtube of Steamboat Vs Hart from 89 i believe.. worth watching, its a classic.

[@rickyhurtado]

I favored HBK over everyone as a kid. Such was the power of marketing and his ability to be marketable. In hindsight, I get it, I see why the Undertaker said “when I think of my matches with Bret, I remember the Execution of Excellence.”

[@MikeFromMichigan]

Bret Hart is The Man that Shawn Michaels could Never be! Class Act, Top Notch, & Superior Integrity! "The Best There Is, The Best There Was, & The Best There Ever Will Be".

[@SpaceGhost92]

Yeah right. The same guy that always shit on Hogan ruined matches or had them canned all together bc the sHIT man couldn’t look weak, brother.

[@MikeFromMichigan]

@@SpaceGhost92 Hogan is a Shit Story All in Himself My Brother.

[@Leo-yn5fx]

Dylan Smith LOL fuck hogan dude.

[@jamieoiler5690]

@@Leo-yn5fx hogan smelled like poopie

[@Makainternational]

Dylan Smith but......Bret wasn’t wrong! in 2020 we know that Hogan was the biggest asshole in wrestling! Kicking out right after the three count of warrior’s moment at WM6. Hogan refusing to lose to Bret after he stole the title from him at WM9. Hogan didn't even lose clean to Yokozuna when he dropped the title. Hogan’s backstage politics was shocking, and you want to shit on Bret for being an artist, best technical wrestler of all time, and amazing at in ring psychology?!? For hogan who went to the top based on great marketing? And could only throw a few punches and give a leg drop? Hogan even tried to accuse the undertaker of hurting him and even faked an injury when he lost the title to Taker (oh and he didn’t lose clean in that match either).

[@KylePrime_1986]

When i was a kid i was so invested in Shawn's journey from the rumble win to mania and for me this match really felt big to me, the two best guys in an hour long match. I loved it and I was on the edge of my seat, especially when time was running out and nobody had a single fall. I thought bret had won then it restarted and shawn won. I was so excited because shawn was my favorite (still is lol) and he finally won. I know people are divided on this match these days but i still love it

[@neilsmith9066]

One of the best matches of alltime

[@ricflairslastdoobie7605]

Shawn sure was a prick back then, but man did he have an awesome character. One of those love the art, hate the artists deals

[@SpaceGhost92]

Fundy Productions You most not be from the states. America always goes over, pal.

[@jamief1263]

Shawn and Bret I thought had great matches. Never liked Babyface Shawn in this era, much preferred heel Shawn. I think Bret was the most consistent performer (he had less stinkers), but Shawn could have the best matches. I also think that Bret’s matches were better than Shawn’s at the end of Bret’s run in WWF. Bret I think had better matches with Austin, Taker and Sid. I think that passing the torch to Austin, would have been much more better as Bret had 4-0 wins over Austin. Without Tyson everyone would have forgotten the Shawn/Austin match wrestlemania.

[@kritikalqueefz8920]

He is the morrisey of the wrestling world

[@johneastwood3039]

What was his character? Male stripper? Whatever floats your boat.

[@Rodzilla97]

Shawn is the Michael Jordan of pro wrestling. GOAT

[@romansochacki7678]

Funny thing is that I liked Bret Hart 100 times more than Shawn Michaels then and still do.

[@sasquatchhunter86]

I was the opposite. Now I think like you do.

[@yarightwilliams5659]

Michaels all day

[@omzimusic3385]

Me too shawn is too overrated and a @$$h*le

[@Wongwongwong10000]

Both Shawn and Bret were great. Just that Shawn was a egotistical asshole because of the Kliq. Bret had an ego but he didn’t have mic skills to let it out like Shawn did. They both complimented each other because both had great wrestling chemistry. They were fun to watch and it’s too bad Vince had to do the screw job. Bret could have taken a pay cut because what happened to Bret in WCW was so unlucky and it’s a shame that Eric Bischoff had no idea how to use Bret to his full potential. Bill Goldberg was not a wrestler and it shows when you watch the match that ended Brets career he had no idea how to do a wrestling kick and just blatantly kicked Bret in the head full force. Everyone says that Bret is sour and negative all the time but I just think he wanted his career to last longer then it did.

[@romansochacki7678]

@@Wongwongwong10000 I think Bret had every reason to be a bit bitter, though he was being too stubborn for his own good. Shawn always came off obnoxiously arrogant and still comes off disingenuous to me. He was a good performer but he started the high spot wrestling trend that I hate. I think Pro Wrestling would have been better off if an entire generation emulated Bret Hart rather than Shawn Michaels. It sucks now, it's cookie cutter, and a bunch of high spots with no psychology which kills whatever kayfabe is still left.

[@TheLonelySoulja]

1 of my favorite matches of ALLLL time

[@Realest636]

Shawn and Bret had the best chemistry. Same height same build similar but contrasting styles.

[@knightshousegames]

At first I thought announcing the Sudden Death Stipulation would make it obvious that it was gonna go to overtime, but then I thought about it, and yeah, I feel like maybe at some point somewhere, at least in the commentary or a contract signing or something this rule should have been mentioned, because without knowing about it, one might assume it was like any other title match where it's Champion's Advantage and a draw like that would be like any other time limit draw where the champion should retain.

[@TheLonelySoulja]

I disagree with JR. I always love when the Sudden Death OT announced happened

[@kforcer]

Me too. It added an air of controversy, not to mention it was surprising and dramatic.

[@RowlexEnterprise]

@@kforcer exactly. When Bret won.... i was like really??! It took me off guard until they mentioned OT....i was like ohhhh!!! Ok here we go!! 😎

[@josephsuarez8178]

That was Bullshit

[@jking3166]

Well this rivalry did actually end up being legendary

[@homedeezyfasheezy5662]

I was at the Austin house show where Bret and Shawn wrestled. It was pretty cool because Razor, Diesel and Undertaker were all advertised as being on the show. Before the show started the ring announcer stated that all of them wouldn’t be appearing and offered anyone the opportunity to go to the box office for a full refund. A few people got up out of their seats and proceeded to make their way to get a refund. The announcer then to read off the matches and then stated that the WWF title would still be defended and the opponent would none other than Shawn Michaels. The Undertaker was the advertised opponent and this was weeks before the iron man match at WM. Needless to say the crowd popped big and the majority of people who got up to get refunds hustled their way back to their seats to watch the show. It was a solid show. Matches were good, main even was awesome and I can remember the crowd losing their shit when Goldust came out. I’m guessing due to both him and his dad being from Austin. Good times

[@bennytakeson]

Perfect clash of styles in the ring

[@LeoWhalen1933]

This match lived up to all the hype and was executed flawlessly. The only problem was that the fans werent ready for it yet. Like Cornette said, if it happened in Charlotte or Greensboro the crowd would have loved it. Unfortunately it took place in socal and their crowd is weak sauce😂😂😂

[@bpo1975]

I love JR; the man's a class act.

[@jerryreiner1650]

Come on guys, I LOVE your content... Fix the audio pops! Please???

[@randygoble6358]

Shawn Michaels is always my all time favorite I was 11 or 12 in the mid 90s he could put on a great show

[@miketokles9451]

Got to love Jim Ross. He always calls it straight and very logically to how he prececivs what is right and true.

[@McGomezAddams]

A top 5 match

[@TheWolfSaidPoofy]

Being an HBK fan, I do particularly this match because he really showed he could do everything in it. Especially in the first 20 minutes, he mirrored Bret's style and then expanded it with his own spark. I wish he was more gritty and technical throughout his career, overall I probably do like Bret's intense and technical style more than HBK's.

[@cra0422]

To me, this could have been an even greater feud than it was. Unfortunately, the Monday Night Wars (and Shawn's piss-poor attitude) turned what was on-screen heat between Bret and Shawn intro real-life heat, culminating into the infamous Montreal Screwjob

[@kerpal321]

i think bret hart vs stone cold would have been a better fued, bret hart vs stone cold at wrestlemania 13 is really one of the matches that turned stone cold into a fan favorite in my opinion

[@Kaje6124]

Some of the greatest matches I’ve ever seen are between Tito Santana & Greg ‘The Hammer’ Valentine for the Intercontinental title.

[@reyjusuf]

My favorite match of all time

[@TheWeeklyShow]

Hbk said get out the ring ... Dizam

[@danebramage04]

Without Stu Hart, Vince wouldn't of had a company, then he wouldn't of had a Stone Cold or Shawn without Bret Hart.

[@jaycee4844]

Jim is absolutely right if you remember wrestlers talking about wrestling.

[@jonathanhensley6141]

Yes i agree with JR that a 4.25 out of 5 stars. It was a great match and a classic. Bret knows how to have awesome matches and yes i love 30 to 60 minute pro wrestling matches.

[@anthonyhurn1988]

Bret is just ridiculously good, so is shawn. Shame things ended like they did. Don't care tho it's not personal between them it just happened when it happened. Vince is the boss end of

[@anthonyhurn1988]

Bret and Shawn were wrestling back in the day

[@brandonpotts54]

Still my favorite match

[@JHC2812]

Amazing match up!!!! Maybe the best ever !!!

[@clintwalker4643]

Can anyone else hear JR snorting coke in the first couple of minutes?

[@alliancetaxservice739]

Hearing JR speak candidly on Bret not realtaliating to being potatoe'd, has me rolling..."Shawn couldn't handle Bret in that kinda world"...meaning Bret would legitimately beat the piss outta Shawn in reality 😆😆😆😆

[@jonathanhensley6141]

In my opinion that match pushed HBK to a new level of wrestling because before that HBK mainly did 20 minute matches. That match took about 15 or 20 minutes to really get going.

[@joaoflores1131]

Without Jim Ross there’s no attitude era

[@immortallegacy100]

To be honest I think a LOT of the Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels feud was just theater. I don't doubt that they didn't care for one another or sometimes fought, but too many of Michaels' A-hole moments on television have turned out to have been planned for me to think he wasn't playing to the camera just a little bit when he cussed out Bret, and according to Bruce everyone was yelling at Bret because the PPV needed to end with Shawn's celebration and Bret's dejection. People cuss like sailors in the entertainment industry and in sports, including WWE, and I think that was just "communication" back in the day. I don't entirely trust Bret when it comes to him saying that people stiffed him because he also didn't trust guys like Flair and Malenko to not try and take liberties with him, and I think he's either still trying to keep the Hart/Michaels feud alive or his health problems have affected his mind over the years to the point he mixes up kayfabe and reality (no offense meant but even Jericho has talked about Bret being "odd" sometimes). Overall, I didn't care for the match and I think a lot of what Bret wrote in his book is either sour grapes, him sticking to kayfabe (partially), or him mixing the two together.

[@DELPHIIII]

What does jim ross mean at the end there, the most powerful tool in wrestling is an eraser?

[@aaronjackson9385]

The bookr, the man who writes the storylines and the finishes

[@TylerMorganShow]

Good Ol JR wisdom

[@knowyourroleboulevard7119]

There should have been couple of pinfalls going on in the match. Like come on. At least a 4-4 before sudden death overtime.

[@quikdeath100]

I disagree. Back then Bret and Shawn weren’t losing matches so it be weird for them to be pinned 8 times in a 60 minute match. Combined they probably didn’t even have eight losses between 93 to that match.

[@oneshotperrotte1541]

I thought the ending was great! Bret thinking he won the match and having to return to the ring! Bret was visibly upset and the story told in the ring was great! I think having multiple pin falls could damage both wrestlers moving forward in there carriers and there rivalry. Bret had said that he wanted to work with Shawn for many more years. So if Bret and Shawn beat each other in multiple ways in one match it would kinda dilute there rivalry for the future. I respect your opinion sir. Just wanted to give you mine.

[@knowyourroleboulevard7119]

@ShadowAngel thanks for the reminder. No need to get offended by grammar though. Like calm down. It's not a big deal.

[@Ekolishift]

@@knowyourroleboulevard7119 hes listening to a wrestling shoot interview and trying to be a grammar nazi. From that you can imagine what's going on with his priorities in life.

[@gametimex3969]

It shouldn't of been a draw.

[@tonedogg9335]

My first wrestlemania.. Arrowhead pond of anaheim......... Bought my tickets 5 hours before the showtime at ticketmaster... Drove 40 minutes to anaheim and my 75$ seats were right above the wrestlers exit and entrance to the ring.. Awesome.. But this match was borrrrrrrring in person...1 hour was too long in person..

[@rickyhurtado]

I could see that. On TV we have the luxury of commentary and angle changes making it enjoyable.

[@damianpriest196]

So who is Conrad and why does Jim Ross and Bruce give him the inside scoop behind the scenes? I’m just genuinely curious as someone who just found all these interviews and enjoying them

[@countof3everybodyOD]

Married to wrestling royalty

[@themedianman9712]

He is married to Flair's not-Charlotte daughter, so that's how he has the connection to synch up with his partners (he has 2-3 others). The material is mostly just Dave Meltzer write-ups, which he knows will sufficiently piss off all of his broadcast partners for one reason or another. Sometimes Meltzer was way off base. Other times he was a bit too on the nose. In any event, that he wrote it is enough to get the subjects hot under the collar.

[@damianpriest196]

The Median Man make sense now

[@jackmcgregor4025]

Good matches

[@justinlyn4254]

MARCH 31 2023 ON THIS DAY IN WWE HISTORY MARCH 31 1996 27 YEARS AGO SHAWN MICHAELS WON HIS 1ST WWE CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER DEFEATING BRET HART 60 MINUTE ironMan MATCH TO WIN THE WWE CHAMPIONSHIP THE FACT IT WAS 27 YEARS LATER AND ONE OF THE GREATEST MOMENTS IN WWE HISTORY ONE OF THE GREATEST ironMan MATCHES IN WrestleMania HISTORY

[@stanettiels7367]

That Winged Eagle needs to come back.

[@KylePrime_1986]

I definitely hadn't noticed until bret wrote about it in the book that shawn had said get the f out of my ring. Not shocking though

[@kurtm00mau45]

The real question is, what did Cowboy think of the match?

[@troywright359]

Lol

[@davidgraham8299]

Who cares?

[@saulrobles374]

Shawn might have done alot of things but there's one thing that he hasn't done in his career and that's wrestler andre the giant like bret did

[@BabysitterSky]

Lol okay?

[@magsxx9735]

Bret might have done alot of things but there’s one thing that he hasn’t done in his career and that’s wrestler kurt angle like shawn did

[@zt1053]

Shawn Michaels as champ is the primary reason WCW started to win in the raings.

[@blprom]

If they said anything about "sudden death" before hand, then even the dimmest of fans could have figured it out.

[@bardofsteel]

To be fair, it was Shawn's moment. Bret did right by him leaving the ring, not like Hogan stealing Warrior's thunder after dropping the title to him.

[@bobc2043]

As a young kid I thought it was boring and I think even less of it now.

[@BigMick502]

I would of loved to see bret hart vs kurt angle vs Chris benoit vs lionheart Chris jericho Ironman fatal four-way submission match

[@johnjedennett2206]

Both were great to me 1 and 2. Bret my number 1. Bret was a great wrestler, Shawn was a great entertainer but both brilliant

[@Regalman]

I'm happy they didn't explain the OT rule. It would have been extremely predictable that it would have went to OT.

[@wayevs]

I apologise if this has already been mentioned but the focus on michaels telling earl hebner to get bret out the ring is a fucking work! There was supposed to be a rivalry created between shawn and bret and bret had already told shawn he wont shake his hand ! so to build the work and rivalry shawn tells hebner to get bret out of the ring, I really dont see the problem here, also bret and shawn were amicable back in those days .

[@hummabrown4868]

I was in the Garden that night him an UNDERTAKER VS DIESEL AN MICHAEL'S DOPE MATCH PLUS that afternoon Gold dust almost got fuck up he said some stuff in the ring he say to the Puerto Ricans to shut upppppp mad loud they started jumping ova the walk through gates shitttt was crazy that day ...FATCZZZ IN 1996

[@Leo-yn5fx]

This is prob the best Wrestling match ever idc what anyone says!

[@jameswarner5878]

Terrible end. Bret has the match won, it's over. HBK needed to win in regulation or in OT (for the drama) but he cannot be locked in the Sharpshooter at the end.

[@soup8786]

Yeah I hated it as a 7 year old. It made Shawn a bad guy in my eyes. As a bret fan it broke my heart

[@johnjedennett2206]

Bret was the man🤘

[@simonl1135]

"Shawn was very lucky that Bret didn't retaliate to those potatoes, because Shawn could never handle Bret in that environment", JR saying it as it is as usual.

[@jeffreyanthony5652]

I had no idea the age difference I thought brett and shawn were siimilar in age

[@paulearl8203]

JR has picked up Vince's " things of that nature"

[@sepnova2691]

This was the 2nd best match of all time imo. Only 2nd to the 1996 Survivor Series Austin vs Hart match

[@cappy2282]

Shawn vs Bret was always money

[@chuckjames3173]

I watch this match every couple years, it is always enjoyable. It is a bonus that Jim Ross 's insufferable commentary is not part of it.

[@Deanobucko917]

The match would have been even better if JR was commentating

[@andrefromelpasotexas3236]

What the hell man, JR is great

[@kwrbt2979]

And you like the "vince mcmahon marking out voice" commentary????

[@chuckjames3173]

@@kwrbt2979 you sound like some Jim Cornette listener, he's poisoned a generation of of upcoming fan boys with his slanted views and biased nonsense....

[@kwrbt2979]

@@chuckjames3173 I was a fan of wrestling before you knew Cornette existed. My opinions are my own, bitch. Vince's voice on commentary makes him sound like a fuggin jackass

[@JLRules]

No mention of the thousands of fans who left the arena halfthrough the match because they were bored senseless... ?

[@kwrbt2979]

Did that really happen?!

[@JLRules]

@@kwrbt2979 Apparently so.

[@duffman18]

@@kwrbt2979 nope, just look at the crowd, nobody left. If that had happened, you wouldn't be able to hide it with clever camera angles, unless everyone who left coincidentally happened to be only on one side of the whole building. Which obviously wouldn't ever happen.

[@christophertheconqueror8751]

Shawn Michaels the GOAT Wrestler tbh

[@duffman18]

Actually he's a human.

[@limpbrisket6851]

Imagine having Brett Hart and HBK but putting the title on Sid

[@rickyhurtado]

What do you mean? Sid was money. He was over, man, and sometimes the planning falls apart when the audience just loves a dude. He was a heel that was beloved by the crowds.

[@joshuahendrix8615]

I love their rivalry but the Ironman match was a lot of time killing necklocks with action every 5 min or so. The last few minutes were good but for me personally their ladder match in the early 90s is their best. The first ladder match in wwe BTW...not WM 10 🤨

[@kazd2561]

Yeah thank you , for saying that what was said in the ring I noticed that he had said something that From Shawn would of been sarcastic,.🤔 I agree it was immature,and unprofessional! Obviously all that now is water under the bridge! But in my eyes it should of gone down like it was supposed to of,in my opinion!!😒 Yeah That is True!Bret showed his true integrity,a gent! Like in the real world el/shawn he's Lucky Bret would of stomped him !💪👊😁👍

[@chriswilliams4834]

Don’t get me wrong, awesome match. Definitely an awesome match. But, go back and watch it today versus like a Brian danielson match from yes movement or even Okada versus omega

[@duffman18]

OK, I've now done that. This match is still better than those matches

[@cats362]

someone winning the belt todays to me as a fan is worthless. After evolution and another time the belt being won by one person mainly by cheating or dq pretty much made the belt worthless.

[@StephOMacRules]

@Koffin Radio And neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew European Champion... Shawn Michaels. Well I guess in that case it was him being a prick to the Hart clan just to screw Bulldog in front of his home town and also to have a one up on Bret as the grand slam winner.

[@shanedrayton7662]

Same here

[@mrcold8966]

People talk about how great Shawn Michaels was but they forget that his run the in the early to mid 90s was the company's darkest times and according to alot of the guys WWE almost didn't make it so yeah he might have been a top guy but does it really matter if buisness was in such dire straits

[@ninetimesaday]

The business being in dire straits is not a good barometer of what a top guy could do, as who the top guy is rarely affects outside forces affecting a company, especially the WWE in the 90's.

[@randomthoughts4569]

That is why the business was in such a state because of Vince’s decision to turn undercard talent into “top guys”.How do you go from guys like Hogan,Warrior,Macho Man,Andre etc to Bret Hart,Shawn Michaels?..Highly underwhelming.

[@KylePrime_1986]

Shawn must have intentionally potatoed him. He's known for being light as a feather

[@davidgraham8299]

Shawn knew he could get away with it. What would Vince do and say if Bret beat the crap out of Shawn in the main event of WrestleMania when Shawn was going to win the belt?

[@tenorandrewowens]

8:00 how many low-key jabs can JR take at Pat Patterson’s sexuality??

[@Sacrilege83]

Sorry I don't hear the jabs. I hear it as Pat in his position in the company having admiration for two workers for what each does. Nothing to do with Pat being gay and JR pointing it out.

[@rolltide9547]

Flair Steamboat 2 out of 3 was better.