Su-33: Air To Air Refueling(Manual & Auto) Tutorial | DCS WORLD

[@ImperatorTheodosius]

Tanker guy here. For the etiquette, receivers waiting for gas wait in left echelon/observation. Receivers that have completed refueling wait in right echelon. Usually we say "cleared left/right wing" as appropriate. Also, it's "chicks in tow."

[@grimreapers]

Copy thanks Shoop

[@AK-pr6bq]

3 years late but ... Does the Russian Air / Naval forces follow the identical etiquette? I noticed the IL-76 making a right turn, which never happens for NATO tankers in DCS.

[@ImperatorTheodosius]

@@AK-pr6bq Couldn't tell you because I don't know their stuff. The fact of the matter is that we turn whichever way we need to. We joke about only turning left because that's the standard orbit for the rendezvous. US/NATO procedures are found in the ATP 3.3.4.2, which is unclassified and you can quickly dowload with a search engine.

[@TheRadiag]

One additional note: When retracting the fueling boom it is normal for it to take a few minutes as it empties out the fuel lines inside the boom. Just hit the key once and wait.

[@grimreapers]

Copy noted

[@Broccoli_32]

Appreciate these tutorials, DCS really just throws you in without much information.

[@cornbread5144]

*** Thanks from all the DCS Community. DCS really doesn't touch on this in the manual. :)

[@grimreapers]

Thx Kim

[@Minuz1]

About not disengaging upwards?

[@thegrizz9994]

Started the 33 today.. managed the carrier landings..failed miserable at a2a refueling..this is gonna help a lot... thanks Reapers u mothers

[@Broccoli_32]

Man you make it look so easy, I’ve got a cheap joystick so I overcorrect like crazy just trying to make small movements.

[@leviturner1652]

Dont let having a cheap joystick be an excuse, my joystick is $30 and I can refuel fine. You just have to train yourself to make tiny movements

[@qiyuxuan9437]

You need to change your joystick curve than......you will over correrect even with the best joystick if you dont set a curve.....

[@michalkundrat01]

​@@qiyuxuan9437 I understand that this reply was years ago, but I don't use a curve and I can refuel just fine in the SU33

[@6105boe]

How rude, that tanker just showed up out of nowhere and rammed you Cap! If I were you I'd write a very strongly worded letter to his CO, or something.

[@grimreapers]

I know right, this would never happen in the RAF!

[@FoxWithTheAngels]

@@grimreapers there was a bee and they had to pull evasive maneuvers

[@simbadgo]

ty far this awesome video. today i try to refuel, i made mision, take off from kuznjetsov near sochi and fly all over to north west, finaly i manage to refuel not 100& but something about 70% and come back to land at kuznjetsov near sochi. . i was soo happy i cant descibe. ty

[@fredh1201]

I have tried to do this, but never got it because the AI always turned. thanks for the vid

[@kevinsemon1491]

Really enjoying these educational videos. Would love to fly with you guys sometime.

[@jamespower7479]

WOW This is slightly harder than performing complicated eye surgery on yourself while riding a unicycle . I found auto thrust a great help , also cheating by using "L alt / Z" to slow things down as I have the reaction time of a sloth . And then "l ctl / Z " to speed back up again .✈✈ Great work by the Reapers . without these tutorials DCS would be unfathomable

[@danglingdave1787]

Lol that's what i do as well.

[@mdeerocks6792]

@13:18 LOL. Great video!

[@eddievhfan1984]

By the looks of it, the yellow light indicates being out of position laterally and vertically, and the red light indicates the same longitudinally (front/back).

[@virgo47]

This was very helpful. Speed is my biggest problem at the moment, I own a good throttle, finally, but Su-33 is very agile when it comes to speed (at least for refueling purposes :-)). Autothrust is incredibly useful, it makes the whole experience nearly arkadish. 🙂 Also, there is a ACS refueling mode, which is very handy, especially for level refueling. I have to figure it out for orbits yet.

[@brolee6830]

i find it hard to believe that you you werent using asc refueling mode or auto thrust mode to begin with. how the hell were you dialing in single knots with your throttle alone?

[@ramjet7089]

I have autothrust +/- on my hotas and use it prior to connect to tanker

[@grimreapers]

Oh yes, that is a much better idea. Good job.

[@gunlovingliberal1706]

Su33 is much easier to learn, but it is not a high fidelity model. The F-16 is easy for me to land, but that is because I crashed short of the runway or ran off the end of the runway many many times. I finally learned to regulate my throttle and descent rate. Ground handling can be tricky if you get in a hurry. Just keep your speed low. I agree that the F/A-18 is easier in every respect.

[@randyreal5871]

Beautiful, looks very difficult

[@alheeley]

How about the use of Refuel Mode (R ctrl + R) to help stabilise the approach to the tanker?

[@grimreapers]

oooo nice idea

[@shavofairbanks8232]

How do you trim your plane so precisely? I find that my plane when is either one trim to high or one trim to low and will make it so i have to manually control to keep myself from drifting up or down. This makes it impossible to refuel as it creates a bob effect.

[@shavofairbanks8232]

Nvm i practiced this for 3 hours straight and have it perfect.

[@lSlicerl]

how did you do that then ? I am intrested to know how too . Thanks :)

[@shavofairbanks8232]

If you are talking about trimming then i will use the stick deflection trim option to get it perfect. You can also do Lctrl+r (I think) to use auto leveling meant for refueling. the next bit of advice i dont think he mentioned was using only rudder to line up. if you use rudder it will prevent you from bouncing up and down trying to keep it steady.

[@zoranbrasnjo7488]

They didn't mention ACS refuel mode, it gives you more precise controls when refueling, it is like autopilot mode but it is not called like that. In controls menu you can find ACS cobra mode and ACS refuel mode, very cool feature along with autothrottle.

[@stratoleft]

You take your hands off the stick or throttle and look somewheres else, to push these keys for "auto" whatever and that's enough to completely lose your position and go off course, which I only know too well.

[@unleqitzymeax7246]

How do I get this mission ?? I can’t find it anywhere under instant action or anywhere else... could someone please help me? Thanks

[@aymansaad7478]

Use the map editor to create it

[@HOTSHTMAN53]

Tried refueling for the first time yesterday 20 min in the air, couldnt get it in. Never sweat so much playing a game.

[@grimreapers]

yeh it's hard

[@heikojakob6491]

@@grimreapers Have you disabled wake turbulence? It's way harder with wake turbulence enabled.

[@nighthawk8104]

Air refueling is the Grand Master Level of flying in DCS, if I manage to connect I can only hold it a few seconds, no matter which plane, but basket is a bit easier once connected due to more space

[@_Casperus_]

How do you stay so steady?!

[@grimreapers]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWqmoneGoq5mmMU

[@lasselahti4056]

Cap gets "additional signals" *rumbling tinfoilhat*

[@AhmadDanHamidu]

When you went upwards at the end of refueling, what clipped your wing, the hose or a gun on the tanker?

[@cursed9930]

Stand by for stand by guys stand by for a stand by stand by standing by

[@goninja2162]

love to hear a south african voice :)

[@MrNicoPela]

-Do not fly upwards *flies upwards*

[@marco2571]

Sorry, maybe a stupid question, but.. how can you find the tanker? Thanks in advance.

[@zoranbrasnjo7488]

You can use map or call AWACS it will give you bearing and distance

[@marco2571]

@@zoranbrasnjo7488 okok.. I thought there was smarter options.. :) thanks a lot for the reply

[@TheGhostlyDragonLP]

Nice stuff!

[@dm19881]

Don't go up, got it!!

[@hmsmerlin7060]

Some jaggey lines in your cockpit cap, you disabled anti-aliasing?

[@johnbrown9181]

AA makes it harder to spot things, so they leave it off.

[@grimreapers]

I've never really though about it TBH, I'll check my settings when I get a min

[@stratoleft]

@@grimreapers No big deal. Not everybody makes high end video a "requirement" , or something. It's plenty good enough.

[@lisandrobeltra1186]

Wich mod do you use to set the HUD to english?

[@Little1-1]

it's just an option. While in the main menu go in the options and you will find something like cockpit language (original/native)

[@zarrockvorran13]

F-15 will be fun ^^ It always takes me ages to refuel this bird

[@grimreapers]

Gah I hate doing it

[@justaregularguy3827]

Auto thrust is just Russian Cruise control

[@fokjohnpainkiller]

Ending the video in proper Reapers fashion I see

[@grimreapers]

LOL of course!

[@tituslund2669]

My probe no longer retracts

[@ArkanOthman]

Is this still up to date Cap?

[@grimreapers]

I don't think they changed anything since this. Let me know if anything doesn't work.

[@Petidani0330]

I don't understand why that tanker speed indicator is not present on American planes. Yes, I know they fly and train at the very least 10x more than Russian pilots, but the plane should always take off as much workload from the pilots' shoulders as possible. In my opinion it's a little but important thing. Despite having much more mechanical switches and dials (even some gauges from the freaking '60s...), from time to time I find the Soviet/Russian planes more pilot-friendly than the Americans. Though American planes (especially the Raptor and the Lightning II) are still mostly superior, so I guess it's not an issue at all. I just find it weird, is all.

[@keepwalking6041]

to me its a no brainer, having such tech is just makes sense... why put strain on pilots unnecessarily.. but propaganda tells us russian tech is outdated, while reality is autoloaders for tanks, cheaper tanks, helicopter with ejection seats, no such thing in western equipment.. it could be propaganda is just powerful in west and its not as bad as they say, maybe even in parts russian tech is superior clearly.

[@Petidani0330]

@@keepwalking6041 Indeed. I'd die to see what a joint American-Russian warmachine could do. With the ingenuity of the Russians and the inexhaustable budget of the Americans, I believe it would be an absolute monster that would put the likes of the Raptor to shame. I know there's not even a slight chance of it ever happening, as neither parties wish to get closer to each other, nor is it their economic and political interest to do so. Treaties signed in the 90s are like the unification talks between the two Koreas - looks nice on the outside, but makes no progress whatsoever on the issue.

[@keepwalking6041]

@@Petidani0330 actually problem is not RF, what prevents RF joining NATO for instance its to big, as in too big potential, RF has all it needs to become superpower, a hegemon, so west cannot enable RF to have peaceful decade let alone century or they risk RF developing to such a level it will be impossible to bring them down a notch, Putin asked once Clinton, we would like to join NATO, lets do it, he was declined. sadly USA empire is in a war with anyone that could pose independence and sovereign thought, right now the war in Ukraine is most evident such proof, but as we can see, RF will be victorious, Ukraine will not exist as a nation anymore and all of it was done in hopes to weaken RF?!?! all west had to do was say, ok, NO NATO for ukraine, got it RF, we respect your red lines..but naaaah, whatever.

[@TheKingofshdws47]

great video

[@saayanbiswas209]

I don't have a 🕹️ , I play DCS with a 🎮 So It was 3x harder for me as I didn't had that precision movement So I used time slow down to 0.5x as my handicap and was able to refuel

[@galturgman818]

how to you keep perfect altitude al the way

[@grimreapers]

just basic manual pitch control. No tricks

[@TheKingofshdws47]

also was first comment yeahs also part of the Notification squad 😛

[@Fershky98]

can someone help me to do this with the mig 29 I cant seem to find anywhere a tutorial for this

[@grimreapers]

kzbin.info/aero/PL3kOAM2N1YJdwXKusowM9lsZWCIZFQSKA

[@philismenko]

The mig 29 doesn't have aar

[@cykalandon8635]

I dont get it you literally never actually explained how to do the auto air to air refuel

[@nemzecski]

This is all you have to do

[@Petidani0330]

You just skipped to the auto refuel part, didn't you? Bro, if a 13 minute tutorial is too long for you, I can only imagine your horror when you try to learn high fidelity modules like the F-16 or F-18. Btw, he explained the auto refuel right before the corresponding section (it's a Grim Reapers thing to have the chapters completely messed up and out of sync with the video...), and it's not entirely automatic. It won't steer the plane for you, there's only autothrust. You connect with the boom, you settle down, then press autothrottle on (default "J" key), then you can adjust it with LCtrl+, and LCtrl+. (default). Like I said, you still need to steer the plane, but at least you can get your hands off your throttle lever (or buttons if you have it bound that way - mine does).

[@joaopedrocarneiro4645]

Can you do some f16 gameplays?

[@juniorslothsix5562]

Joao Pedro Carneiro how do you propose that he does this? DCS has no f-16 that is flyable

[@joaopedrocarneiro4645]

Juniorslothsix sorry didnt know it

[@Motorman2112]

There is currently no playable F-16, but it's planned for the future.

[@juniorslothsix5562]

no prob

[@LtDogoop]

@@juniorslothsix5562 but how does jeff favingo fly it