Philippines Brahmos Missile Batteries vs US & Chinese Carrier Groups (WarGames 241) | DCS

[@DH-.]

You know what would be cool, sci-fi options... Like the air battles from independence day,. Or Godzilla attacks Tokyo , etc ...

[@grimreapers]

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[@jacktheplaygod]

CCP Bot Alert.

[@nepenthy9804]

wdym, Indian made missile getting through US CSG air defense, wasn't this sci-fi already lmao

[@-Blue-_]

@@nepenthy9804 Indians are masters in missiles technology soon we are going to have hypersonic cruise missiles preparing for testing

[@nepenthy9804]

@@-Blue-_ Try sell that to Russians

[@CuriousEngineer]

recently an indian brahmos went inside pakistan , they had chinese made SAM's and radars but were not able to track or intercept it

[@goldeagle1976]

A year ago, it was misfired. Pak had no clue until they got informed by Indian authorities.

[@APDM_Analysis]

Pakistan said they tracked it but saying it's not going inside its territory but skim on its border, so they didn't engage. You two nations love to do these boasting things all the time, rest of the world will take both Indian and Pakistan claims with a huge grain of salt.

[@amartiwari4594]

​@@APDM_Analysis😂😂 bro it's inside their main territory and destroyed an under-construction house

[@RS-jq4oc]

@@APDM_Analysis true, in the pursuit of one-upping the other, all news ends up being propagandised in the subcontinent. very few are privy to the ground realities

[@defence3355]

​​@@APDM_Analysis condescending westerners are also big liars and narcissistic

[@lavsingh6512]

"The BrahMos missile is detected only about 30 seconds before impact, and during this time, it doesn't follow a straight path. Instead, it performs an S-maneuver, which significantly complicates interception efforts. This combination of a short detection window and complex evasive maneuvers makes the BrahMos incredibly challenging for defense systems to counter and it is missing in video if included would be amazing to watch ."

[@Shubhabratabanerjee]

They couldn't model it, so they added a fictional EW system in the missile to even it out.

[@kentony7672]

Shipborne esm may intercept its seeker emission tens of nautical miles away. I'm wondering if it has LPI seeker so enemy early detection could be more difficult.

[@timetraveller8895]

​@@kentony7672 What about earth curvature?

[@nakulchbarman8694]

@@timetraveller8895 he is a flat earth believer let him be

[@asakurayoh3909]

Not to mention the speed, IRL it's mach 4+, hard to intercept.

[@GSCLASSES02]

When indian navy tested single brahmos on a frigate size ship it's broke the ship into two pieces

[@digitalbharat170]

Without Explosive - you forgot to mention

[@lordisback1947]

One thing which was missing is the terminal maneuver which makes it the deadliest missile indeed, along with 300kg warhead and mach 3 speed which is higher than mach2.5 on onix, it can seaskim as low as 3 metres from the surface. The speed is so much that it produces a kinetic energy equivalent to 32 times of tomahawk missile with it's 3 ton kerb weight. Moreover it can carry nuclear warhead to which gives India the nuclear triad where nuke can be launched from land, sea and air

[@soumalyabarai5125]

in the video, he is saying that this simulation is "realistic".... he forgot that BrahMos has datalink, intermissile datalink.. Onyx had it as well, one would go up, track and designate targets, and stay there to guide the rest.. if that unit would get intercepted, another unit will go up and take lead.. this simulation dosent have half the capabilities...

[@mrmakhno3030]

He did mention it at about 10:00 and also in other video when Kalibr, YJ 18 and P 800 (have the same feature) was used but also without their real-life random trajectory maneuver.

[@AnuragDDethe]

I agree with everything else but it's not the Brahmos that gives us the nuclear triad. Brahmos is nuclear capable in terms that it CAN conceivably carry nuclear warheads, but we don't even know if the Indian nuclear warheads are small enough to fit. We have long used Mirages for airdropped nuclear missiles, our land strike capability comes from all the ballistic missiles we have, and our sea strike capability comes from the K-4 and K-15 SLBMs launched from our nuclear ballistic submarines. The point of Brahmos or why its dangerous is not being nuclear capable, we have many other options for that. The point of it is accurate and very hard to defend against attacks, especially on moving targets. It's better to use ballistic missiles against stationary targets as long as the object is big enough. The Brahmos can hit small targets accurately and also can hit moving targets like ships.

[@mrmakhno3030]

@@AnuragDDethe India don't have tactical nuke. Only USSR and US developed such thing and most if not all of them are out of service.

[@AnuragDDethe]

@@mrmakhno3030 We don't know for a fact that India doesn't have tactical nukes, though considering our nuclear policy, we most probably have all or most warheads as strategic nukes. But all of that doesn't matter, as the Brahmos is capable of carrying even strategic nukes. The thing is, Strategic targets are usually big, cities, industrial complexes, ports, etc. Why would you use a Brahmos rather than using a much cheaper and more effective ballistic missile like a Prithvi or Agni Prime. The Brahmos is handy when attacking a small target accurately.

[@Value_Pilgrim]

Once Brahmos closes into target it does : 1. S - manuever : which makes it extremely impossible to intercept 2. Sea skimming so its probably at about 10 feet about sea level. 3. It does a cobra maneuver on strike which makes it go hypersonic on strike.

[@Stephen7344]

It doesnt do any cobra maneuver. It hits on the side. Enough to spilt even the Type55 in half

[@shubh_nx777]

Bruh, No cobra maneuvers here.😂

[@bestvideoselected8362]

Cobra maneuver for mountain core only.

[@sameerthakur720]

Cobra maneuver slows down aircraft, doesn't make them hypersonic. Brahmos often does an S-maneuver to make it difficult to intercept for guns, nothing hypersonic about it.

[@hyper-pronab]

Brahmos doesn't do cobra maneuver

[@patriot0971]

I can see the Chinese being foolish enough to sail into the range of these incredible weapons and getting some ass whooping. I think Vietnam and Indonesia are going to acquire some of these also.

[@thelungilife6057]

Vietnam went full-Russian and bought Bastion onshore batteries - which use the less sophisticated Oniks missile.

[@mrmakhno3030]

Vietnam are focusing on mass producing their own coastal antiship missile complex- VCM B. They might introduce this system at the end of 2024.

[@thelungilife6057]

@@mrmakhno3030 I mean, yes, but these are basically subsonic kh-35's. They're not to be compared against ramjet powered mach-3 missiles.

[@AdityaRaj-ru9br]

Lol so you are saying now they won't come in Phillipines that is a good thing Ig and lol in this video they told exact location of batteries like seriously is there any secrecy or not ofc there is lol

[@patriot0971]

@@AdityaRaj-ru9br sushh low IQ jibber jabber. :/

[@vigneshb5347]

P-800 Oniks is reported to have 0 (zero) intercept in Ukraine (with western Radars and interceptors), I expect Brahmos to be even better

[@PoliticalSeer-ii3wh]

Yes BrahMos is Better than P-800 and the BrahMos-NG is Even Better than BrahMos 1

[@ravenmusic6392]

That is literally just made up lol. The Ukrainian air defence system has so far shot down about a dozen Onyx, according to the Ukrainian ministey of defence and US projections. The Russian missile with the lowest interception rate is the KH-22/32, which is a slightly older missile that has been heavily upgraded. Also, the "Western radars" in Ukraine are not exactly AEGIS, they're a mix of 1990s British and Swedish technology and older Soviet systems. In any case, the large number of missiles fired pretty much offsets the ability of Ukraine to intercept over a large front. We still don't know anything about accuracy or what sort of targets were hit. This literally proves nothing, there is no information to suggest Brahmos is better than any other modern ASCM system

[@Flanker2799]

@@ravenmusic6392 please dont make laugh by your propaganda,but yes kh 22/32 have zero intercptions,even p 800 oniks,kinzhal also have zero interceptions

[@benbowland]

@@Flanker2799 They've found multiple Kinzhal's blown up in tiny pieces lol they've been intercepted by Patriot batteries many times

[@Flanker2799]

@@benbowland yes yes,in your dreams,many nafo clowns think they are military experts🤡🤡🤡

[@davidmiller5028]

Nice Brahmos is legit I belives it does a "S manoeuvre ".

[@speedgodshorts]

Yes it's extremely hard to intercept brahmos which does s maneuver, surf above 3 meter of sea level.

[@7rhythm]

Easy installation on jets, ships, plane, drones carriers, and lightweight material making it future ready defense technology

[@sameerthakur720]

Actually the S maneuver makes it difficult to intercept for guns. I don't know whether it will make it tougher for air defence missiles.

[@java1221-sv7bh]

​@@speedgodshortsit's 5 meters not 3

[@TFY-v8l]

Crazy that not even AEGIS could handle 36 missiles.. i wonder if an AWACS could see the missiles further away since the ships have limited sight against low flying missiles

[@dat_sauce_tho2194]

The test was only against Chinese carrier group even though the title says & US

[@easonhuang7117]

@@dat_sauce_tho2194 You missed the last section.

[@grimreapers]

Roger, it's because they all arrived at exactly the same time at such high speed.

[@dat_sauce_tho2194]

@easonhuang7117 thanks friend! Still didn't see the end results on mobile the next video bubbles block everything

[@toasteroven6761]

ECCM is also not modeled, so the avg. intercept range of the missiles will likely be off by some margin.

[@sherigar_9]

One Indian brahmos missile entered into Pakistan Air space, Pakistan had activated HQ-9 Chinese made air defence system. But could not destroy the India super sonic brahmos missile. The Pakistanis tracked the missile inside India and after it entered Pakistani air space traveled about 120 kmts inside Pakistan and fell inside Pakistan. This was actually done to prove to our buyers that our missiles will achieve its target and the Chinese air defence system won't stand change against brahmos. It was a trailer for our potential buyers.

[@7rhythm]

Pakistanis after looking this comment 😖😂

[@physco4641]

It was a misfire. Happens

[@captainnemo8072]

The crew was court-marshaled

[@PoliticalSeer-ii3wh]

Yes They Could Only Track It, But They Didn't Have the Capacity to Intercept it With the Chinese HQ-9B

[@tataibasak6274]

More power to Philippines. 🇮🇳 🤝 🇵🇭

[@Stephen7344]

DCS is wierd... 1 hit from an BRAMHOS without a warhead is enough to SPLIT an entire destroyer in half.. let alone one with a warhead

[@capteagle9]

Hows it weird?

[@Stephen7344]

@@capteagle9 the hit animation l meant

[@capteagle9]

@Stephen7344 whats wrong?thats a fkn ac not a destroyer...

[@capteagle9]

@@Stephen7344 also the hit Animation is not even important

[@Stephen7344]

@capteagle9 no no. It was my 2nd DCS Video. I was just pointing it casually. Ik its not important

[@JohnSmith-se9yl]

Cap... Please,on behalf of all the fans of GRs, take a short break. Your health is paramount, especially to your family. Excellent sim, as usual

[@lizilinx1431]

😂

[@Mr.Niubility]

wtf is this?

[@grimreapers]

I am taking action. As of next week I'm moving from 5 to 4 days per weeks to see if that helps things. If not, then I'll move down to 3 days per week and will just have to hope it works.

[@bzipoli]

​@@grimreapersbrother, we know the algorythm is ruthless, but take all the time you want. by now you guys have a pretty good audience imo

[@JohnSmith-se9yl]

@@grimreapers ...That's great news, Cap! I think it will do you a world of good! 👍

[@arnavvacharyaa5597]

Bullshit.. Brahmos gives opponents only 30 seconds to respond and with its S maneuver it can outsmart any missiles.

[@politics4304]

A year ago, brahmos was misfired by India. Pak had no clue for 2 days until they got informed by Indian authorities.

[@dspawar8690]

no need to boast, China n pakistan both have YJ-12 missile, which is equivalent to brahmos if not better.

[@Rahul_Singh100]

15:22 No buddy, its nowhere near really realistically modelled. Brahmos does S maneuvers, its able to travel at mach 4 and fly just 10ft above sea. Its way different than the limitations of Brahmos in this models.

[@Crayon__Muncher]

He already mentioned this in the vid doofus

[@capteagle9]

Mach 3 not mach 4...

[@GiR1854]

The missile is hardly Russian. Most of the missile has Indian indigenous content

[@noneed-hj9mi]

It's about technology

[@brAmbedkarvadheemusalmaan]

​@@noneed-hj9miit's a combination of Indian and Russian.

[@pandibbarman]

But mostly Russian technology​@@brAmbedkarvadheemusalmaan

[@devanshrana7145]

@@pandibbarman Bhramos is mostly made and manufactured in India with mostly Indian technology and was only designed by Russia

[@sameerthakur720]

Hardware: Russian Software: Indian

[@pratikgupta8899]

Fun fact indian bhramosh variant can travel the speed of mach 4 or more with range of 800 km

[@antiidiottaskforce]

No

[@asakurayoh3909]

@@antiidiottaskforce Yes

[@-Blue-_]

@@antiidiottaskforce yes but payload will be less but still deadly

[@trev8591]

From a Naval perspective, those things chill me to the bone!

[@TradingwithAnxiety]

Humans gone mad 😂😂

[@tp71000]

Carriers are not sitting ducks as assumed in these "games". They remain unsinkable for reasons that can not be covered in single videos like these.. Case in point, Even with development of highly accurate Brahmos, India is spending more money in acquiring aircraft carrier than in Brahmos.

[@sandeep_reddy22]

​@@tp71000 we dont acquire we make it....and obviously u have to spend billions on air craft carrier then missiles u dumbo😂..even if we want only one carrier..it will bein billions compared to just missiles

[@direwolf7491]

​@@tp71000India has got more than 20000 Brahmos and more advanced variants are in the making.

[@ReformationUA]

​@@direwolf7491 20,000? Yeah right 😂

[@usslexingtoncva-1639]

actually since the limit to the Ph missile is 290km due to missile restrictions it could keeo the same higher speed since it has less range to burn up the fuel or if lower speed more damage since the remaining fuel also combusts on detonation

[@timetraveller8895]

Lol nah

[@layneanderson9582]

To be honest also know that every US naval asset in the phillipines and US airforce asset will also be activated in defense of the Phillipines even if you don't use the phillipines own assets.

[@fritzmordred4874]

Yo my Country got featured again

[@grimreapers]

Best country.

[@The1RedRooster]

@@grimreapers China? jkjk

[@kiwishamoo6494]

Phillipines?

[@christopherchartier3017]

@@grimreapersUSA? Lol

[@MurderPierrot]

West taiwan?

[@abh1yan]

When you realise India has 20000 Brahmos 💀

[@blankpaper2471]

okay I'll turn back my ship thanks for the reminder 💀

[@nirvanabhilash117]

💀💀💀

[@daredevilonfire87]

You are wrong... We have around 1500 Brahmos with 220 more on order.

[@PrinceKumar-sr8fr]

​@@daredevilonfire87official numbers. Few months ago China gave statement that india has around 14000 brahmos

[@redman1249]

@@PrinceKumar-sr8fr Typo - it's 1400.

[@InnetTV]

It not just does the S menouver but also the speed doesn't get affected during that stage which makes it even more lethal 😮

[@joelcueto2460]

If the Philippines will have those multi-role fighters that can carry air launched anti-ship missiles like harpoon or RBS-15 and they can time it, perfectly on those Brahmos Missiles, I believe the devastating effect on the target will be enormous it could even take our couple of those PLAN escorting ships. Thanks for this video.

[@ajaypal14121]

Well India operates air land sea version of brahmos , Indian su 30 carries brahmos air version philipines also have Su 30 with few upgrades it can also launch

[@direwolf7491]

​@@ajaypal14121Philippines don't have Su30s. The only way they could have air launched Brahmos is if they puchased the naval variant of the Tejas.

[@PrinceKumar-sr8fr]

​@@ajaypal14121bro it's malaysia who have su 30

[@PrinceKumar-sr8fr]

​@@direwolf7491naval variant is for carriers they can buy the normal mk1a and it would still be enough and be capable of firing 2 brahmos ng

[@direwolf7491]

@@PrinceKumar-sr8fr They are not interested in MK1A. They want modified naval variant which will have mk1a features.

[@AryanRaj-ib5oi]

7:18 Okay that's not correct. Brahmos attains supersonic speed seconds after it is launched. Unlike other "supersonic" missiles which reach near their target before boosting up to supersonic levels, Brahmos reaches Supersonic speed seconds after its signature 90° turn post-launch. It is one of the signature characteristics of the missile that it reaches AND Maintains supersonic speed throughout its flight envelope. It helps the missile counter long-range detection, drastically reducing reaction time even if the missile is detected at extended ranges and ensuring high survivability during the entire trajectory.

[@sagarbyahatti3758]

shussssssssssss...... Dont discuss what brahmos can and cant do. Only time will tell, you need not spill the secret here. With all the imperfection it did get a hit

[@RitamSanyal]

Its publically available information ​@@sagarbyahatti3758

[@vlnal1477]

Philippines should invest in more Brahmos the Indian government is happy to provide more loans.

[@koshiwakawatori9348]

Talo na nga aa video

[@kevintony4652]

Real brahmos cruises at max speed through out the flight

[@johnsilver9338]

What if a US Army Typhon system based in the Philippines loaded with SM-6 and Tomahawk works in conjunction with Indian BrahMos. And M142 HIMARS/M270 MLRS loaded with PrSMs with anti-ship capability. Maybe even LRHW launchers.

[@RD-fr3wx]

Do you mean an Ohio Class? Assuming you are talking about a Boomer. The Typhoon is a Russian Boomer. Either way I don't think they were able to make that work with submarines thats why you never seen them in the videos. I don't think HIMARS can target moving targets, not that a small upgrade can't sort that out. My guess is cap is sticking with 2024 tech and those hypersonics aren't quite available yet.

[@johnsilver9338]

@@RD-fr3wx I meant US Army's Typhon system. Basically a TEL launcher with 4 VLS. Also PrSM Increment 2 LBASM can target ships. Tested recently on June 2024 against a decommissioned USS Cleveland during SINKEX.

[@johnsilver9338]

​@@RD-fr3wx Also US Army already received its 1st LRHW prototype battery since October 2021. “Today marks an important milestone in equipping our nation’s first hypersonic battery,” said Lt. Gen. L. Neil Thurgood. A 2nd battery is in the works for 2025 and a 3rd one for 2027. 1st battery is currently deployed at Cape Canaveral and had recently made a successful all-up round AUR live fire test. It is also light enough to be carried by a C-17 Globemaster. Japan already agreed to host them.

[@RD-fr3wx]

@@johnsilver9338 oh gotcha hadn't seen that launcher yet, thanks for informing me

[@RD-fr3wx]

​@@johnsilver9338 Not sure id I'd call it fully deployed just yet but in a war I'm sure we'd move them even if they aren't 100%. to your original comment assuming we deployed all of those things I don't think the Carrier group has a chance. Seems a bit OP for one of caps videos, but in real life OP is what is desired lol

[@sanatanihindu383]

brahmos can travel at lowest of 5m to 50000 feet, I am very excited for Brahmos 2 which is going to be hypersonic missile with speed of 8-10 mach

[@Bionicbuddha_X]

Brahmos 2 still a pipe dream. It's based of Zircon missile and Russia is reluctant to perform technology transfer. Especially now that India is cozying up with US. Not to mention China is also blocking Russia from transferring any hypersonic missile technology to India.

[@jpg4774]

Brahmos 2 would be om mach6

[@PETSTOP-r1v]

Brazil is also negociating Brahmos missile for their Gripen E and their Scorpene submarines.

[@jayasankar_t]

I hv read that Brahmos is mk3 supersonic throughout the flight regime whereas the onix cruise missile will only accelerate to mk3 while nearing target. Latest version is mk4.5

[@mrmakhno3030]

So all of the Onik's tree (P 800, Kalibr, YJ 18 , Brahmos) still can't be modded correctly in DCS, when 2 most important feature are missing - S maneuver and datalink capability.

[@solomongray6352]

I would like to see someone implement a 2 stage missile that runs long and slow but when it's at a point where it's targeted the 2nd stage blasts away at supersonic speed, like "sprint mode," a term from a book series I liked (scifi). All the tracking telemetry would be ruined after going 100 miles at 500 mph but then go to 2000 mph for the last 10 miles without warning.

[@godlugner5327]

Unless you had a trajectory change with the velocity change it would be a pretty predictable flight once your opponent knows what to expect (even if super fast(

[@Jiaqi-p5b]

YJ-18 is probably the closest. It’s a sea hugging missile with a 350 mile range that flies subsonic around Mach 0.9 long and slow (ideally this stage should be over the horizon) but will do a Mach 3 final sprint towards the target. In the sprint mode the missile also changes its RCS and does a S shape maneuver.

[@johnsilver9338]

That's Russian Kalibr 3M-54K/T.

[@solomongray6352]

@@godlugner5327 If interceptor had to strike from above then the speed increase would shorten intercept time, and as such location, which makes trajectory alteration.

[@Vendell_23]

PHilippine Marines has 3 batteries and soon PHilippine Army also gonna have additional 2-3 batteries

[@dspawar8690]

Should also include long range air defense system like Patriot/Arrow/David sling/Barak to counter the Chinese hypersonic attacks. Spyder is not enough. China's main edge is its hypersonic tactical ballistic missiles, can destroy the launch pads before their launch.

[@Vendell_23]

@@dspawar8690 They are already in the process acquiring additional air defense systems for both Philippine Marines and the Army i just don't know what system they are going to get

[@dspawar8690]

@@Vendell_23 good 👍

[@Four9sFineJewelry]

West Taiwan won’t like this video.

[@shanghaiartist]

West Taiwan needs to chill

[@chessproos]

Liked your choice of words😂

[@STURYANPHUAYEWLIANG]

Hey cap, I have an idea to expand on this further. Instead of just the phillipines and the US, you could try a full ASEAN against china, it could be interesting!

[@SuperAd1980]

My wife is happy her homeland is better protected now. But thinks I should fly to go get the Chinese too 😂😅

[@shanghaiartist]

Tell her, the territory is protected by a 🐯 No plastic dragons anymore

[@capteagle9]

​@@shanghaiartistbruv shut tf up...stop embarrassing us

[@nehagoala3633]

Brahmos never travel in straight line it's start skimming it maneuvers ,the missile which India's has can reach up to Mach4 ND it travel low so that it can evide radars....but it was not maneuvering

[@dspawar8690]

These are not official missiles in DCS but mods, so anything that happens here should be taken as a grain of salt. Even Russian Zircon got intercepted by those crapy Chinese HQ-9 missiles in one of the videos. Its just for fun enjoy👍😉

[@SimpleTradesWithNeo]

With all the other features remember that while other countries advertises their missiles every feature India on the other hand always hide some features and only discloses it to its buyers. Most of the missiles which india has today, India has never shown its full capable Range to the world due to international laws and geopoliticals. There were controversy on them also.

[@TheRaginCajun6]

As a US Navy veteran living here it's nice to see videos of the Philippines in dcs. I know there have others but nice to see updated ones. We had an f22 here in southern philippines two weeks ago and a p8 poseidon last week. Maybe you could base some other assets around the philippines since they have refueling stations now. I dont think you ever used a p8 in the game to fire anything but maybe its also pointless too. What if you maybe added some patriot missile batteries and the chinese attack ships in port at subic bay. Just throwing out ideas. I love your videos, endless possibilities.

[@rhk111schannel9]

WTF, this is all so confusing. Attempt 2 was for 12 BrahMos Missiles PER Battery, so that's 36 missiles in Total for three Batteries. Attempt 4 was for 36 BrahMos PER Battery, so 108 Missiles in total for three Batteries. Goodness.

[@carcamp5451]

does the Brahmos's sea skimming capability bring any difference?? an Indian Su30 launched it in a trail and it went way too low and almost touched the water posted by Indian Airforce on Instagram. if Philippines gets that update, would that bring any change... or is it already sea skimming in this video?

[@RiturajBluemoon]

Nahh..its not in this video..

[@apocalypse4144]

Yes, It can sea skim for sure. but it is not that easy to model it in DCS

[@RitamSanyal]

Yes it will significantly improve the detection delay. Also him launching so many missiles would in real life sunk the whole carrier group because they behave in Wolf Pack behaviour by communicating with one another,here in DCS they are literally colliding with one another 😂.

[@princechoudhary9226]

In real battle scenario, chinese carrier battle group would stay away from bramos range and would come close after bramos battery are destroyed.

[@capteagle9]

How would they destroy the batteries

[@Iamabot4708]

​@@capteagle9 By first gaining air superiority over amd around the Philippines. Using there carrier group fighter jets and longer range aerial refueling planes that would be plausible.

[@pkmkb007]

@@Iamabot4708 You forgot USA is protecting the Phillipines not just Brahmos. In reality they would have to get pas USAF first before Brahmos gets to them.

[@Iamabot4708]

@@pkmkb007 Americans who want to protect the Philippines would be forced to sit in the range of every single missle type from the dong feng family. While I'm sure they could it's unlikely the Americans even bring ships within the South China Sea or close to it.

[@pkmkb007]

@@Iamabot4708 They already have ships in South China sea and they have bases in Philippines, Japan and Taiwan.

[@dad-ms8mz]

Guys today we will do Chinese vs US airforce. Only one difference is jets can't do maneuvers. Its not a big deal.. The s maneuvers in the terminal flight alone account for 60 percent lethality of the messiles.

[@dushyantchaudhry4654]

The Indian navy's trump card is a missile.launched torpedo. Fired from about 300 km away the payload is an autonomous torpedo that can drop to a depth for a submarine or stay under the surface if locked onto a ship.

[@PoliticalSeer-ii3wh]

The Brahmos is Far Superior to What it is Shown in This Lowly Video Game

[@priyashmukherjee3015]

*The BrahMos travels at speeds of Mach 2.8 to 3.0, making it incredibly difficult to intercept. Most anti-missile defense systems have trouble engaging targets moving at such high speeds*

[@sulyokpeter3941]

BrahMos + Zircon vs US CSG? Yeahh... :D That could mess up the AEGIS even more.

[@FleetDefenderRA5]

In the 1980s, one of the possibilities was to have a SAM picket well in advance of the expected threat direction. Obviously, that leaves the pickets vulnerable. Modern thinking and modern weapons may make that defense method archaic. Good sim as always that gets you thinking. Well sone.

[@michaeld1170]

Minor corrections. A Philippine battery has 6 launchers for a total of 18 Brahmos launchers with 2 ready to fire missiles each. The Philippines also has SSM-700K C star missiles on its naval ships, they’re sort of a modernized Harpoon, as well as Spike NLOS on small missile boats called FCAS, they are locally made versions of the Israeli Shaldag-V for saturation attacks. In the future the Philippines is looking at a $36 billion upgrade plan that includes multirole fighters, MLRS (168 launchers required) and subs. Lets revisit this once the plans get finalized

[@grimreapers]

Thanks!

[@Gundam4President]

@@grimreaperswould DCS be able to properly handle all the goodies?

[@night8285]

It will take decades, especially when the government didn't give the requested budget of DND for this year, it didn't even get half of the requested budget. We have the most pressing problems in the region, but we're also the lowest military spender compare to our neighbors.

[@neoshot101]

Yup 3 missiles on 1 truck instead of 2

[@carcamp5451]

man... what if Philippines launches Harpoon first as decoy or cover fire and Brahmos goes behind? more damage... If Philippines got good air defense in land, they can easily defend from Chinese assault. I hope they got good air defense...

[@CLGL9-yv8kh]

Why wouldn't you model the carrier air wing? Fighters have played an important role in intercepting cruise missiles since WWII.

[@PolPhotographs]

more than likely because by the time the carrier group detects the missiles there wouldnt be enough time to get the plane up to make any difference before the missiles hit.

[@atomf9143]

@PolPhotographs As I understand it, unless this is a surprise attack, most carriers will have a wing or two ready to take off at a minute’s notice. so definitely not a full air wing but a squadron or two of Chinese or American aircraft might be the most realistic.

[@Benjamin-fq7nm]

@@atomf9143from what I understand they don’t model the aircraft because the air defense missiles would intercept friendlies in DCS

[@PolPhotographs]

@@atomf9143 i think generally in a more real situation the carrier strike group would def have a AWACS up? so def couple planes would def be able to get airborn to help but he didnt have one for this scenerio so I assume it would still be too short notive since it seems the missiles were detected 20miles out? so that def still not enough time to take off and defend plus all the defense missiles going out at the same time

[@VodkamanBR]

@@PolPhotographs I'm not entirely sure, but I believe the US carrier group always has a couple of F/A-18 in the air to act as interceptors.

[@IND-VG]

BrahMos is more stealthy, super maneuver and faster than American cruise missile, even its only its kind missile. It doesn't need 12 missiles to sink one warship, only one is enough without being detected and it gives only 5 second time to shoot it down which is impossible to react in 5 second . I think you need to research on BrahMos specifications first.

[@teresaharmon4405]

Cap your great! Wish you the best with your health issues and the little one!!!

[@chrisstopher2277]

Thanks for your hard work cap.

[@matthewkern3619]

How about a mixed or combined LRASM and Brahmos battery? Defense will target the Brahmos but may miss the LRASM.

[@rakeshkrishnan1099]

I was about to say that, But rea brahmos is itself dangerous

[@matthewkern3619]

@rakeshkrishnan1099 yes. But they may be synergistic. Someone should test that. It could make a huge difference.

[@lavsingh6512]

"The BrahMos missile is detected approximately 30 seconds before impact. At that point, it doesn't follow a straight trajectory; instead, it performs an S-maneuver, making it much more difficult to intercept."

[@matthewkern3619]

@@lavsingh6512 Yes. They still may be synergistic when used in combination.

[@John-d8p]

@@lavsingh6512 Even that 30 seconds window seems way too much considering the radar horizon of those ships is 20 km at best against a wave scraping object.

[@Youtubutitoy]

how about US Task force + indian & Philippines Brahmos Missile Batteries vs Chinese Carrier Groups next time eh?

[@RD-fr3wx]

seems a bit unfair, maybe russian + chinese carrier vs that.

[@Omnitaku7]

The fact is in real life Russia would never even think of attacking India because of historical friendship.

[@GSCLASSES02]

I can observe that there is two false scenario here first brahmos don't go that much high second brahmos can manuvour in last stage

[@sudiptahaldar2862]

And it was without payload

[@mcelravys]

The Philippines is a US Protectorate the same way Canada is. 😂 I think you pissed off the PI. The Marshall Islands are, pretty much, but the PI are independent.

[@amansehgal3133]

bruh the flat world in dcs nerfs brahmos upto 50% and where is s manoeuvre , wolf pack system ? is it that hard to code in a game

[@night8285]

The Export Variant range is only at 300 km.

[@dad-ms8mz]

I single Indian destroyer has 16 Bromosh. Threat to a CV 😂 1 single destroyer. Anyways India has around 14 thousand of those. Can be launched from sub, air and naval ship and land.

[@champaberiasub4809]

Please show brahmos missile vs UK carriar group 😅❤

[@clangerbasher]

My question is how are the Philippines targeting Brahmos? It is all very well having a long range heavy missile, but which way do you point it?

[@maxlin3442]

Duh, US datalink

[@grimreapers]

I actually have no idea, I cunningly left that bit out of the vid lol.

[@maxlin3442]

@@grimreapers yo it's GR himself

[@clangerbasher]

@@grimreapers

[@strichtarn3228]

In the time you spent typing this up you could have pulled up the equipment page for their air force and counted how many ISR assets they have yourself. Anything that knows its ownship coordinates and a means to gauge bearing and distance can hand off targeting parameters for a launch basket. Come on this is basic. Surely you're not assuming they can't loft even one aircraft up with a pair of binos or FLIR.

[@kentony7672]

In the reality ships heavily rely on ESM to detect emission of missile seekers since radars aren't 24/7 or anywhere operated.

[@PriyankaKumari-jg2ub]

Brahmos is the supersonic ballistic misslie and speed of ig 3/4 mach(3 triple of sound) and its hard or impossible to intercept these missiles

[@Ashis_Kumar.]

Brahmos is the supersonic Cruise misslie.

[@TheTempest73]

finally, something i wanted to see for a while now.

[@dgangadhar6574]

Brahmos performs S manuvour to hit target 🎯 approaching enemy.

[@techgyani1579]

One thing is for any country any missile you do not know when attack will happen radar operators must be always ready so that they could even launch counter missile .

[@Shubhabratabanerjee]

Great content Cap !! I appreciate the part where you compensated for the lack of ability of modelling the 'S' maneuvers with an Internal EW which actually isn't present in the missile 🤍 Next time let's see CH modelled Indian Destroyers vs Chinese Destroyers 💪 Last but not the least, take good care of your health 🙏

[@cuz129]

The Phillipines have no airborne radar so they could not avail themselves of the true range of the Brahmos missiles. They couldn't launch beyond line of sight for the ground based radar, or am I missing something?

[@jacob79001]

Any asset that could detect the ships at extended ranges, even if it be a guy on a dinghy with a smartphone could send rough GPS coordinate data which could then direct the Brahmos which, once within the range of their onboard seekers will then be able to home directly onto the ships.

[@cuz129]

@jacob79001 True, but it's a huge ocean, and ships are moving targets. Without AWAC's those missles are much less capable.

[@joelau2383]

@@jacob79001 Does Phillipines have smartphone service 300km away from coastline? Besides, there is a possibility the missile lock on the boat where the man sailing instead of the targets because the missile doesn't have any target information but a GPS coordinate for attacking whatever it detected first.

[@joelau2383]

You are missing the point that why would their carrier group sail within 300km from coast when everyone knows the missile only have less than 300km range............ It is an aircraft carrier which aircraft can easily fly 1000km and launch 500km range missile to strike targets 1500km away.........

[@jacob79001]

​@@joelau2383haha I suspect not, the dinghy example is a bit of a joke but nonetheless, merchant vessels with SATphones, USV's, UAV's, passive sonar sensors placed off the coast, satellite imagery etc.. All can contribute to the kill chain. Yeah those are good points, the Philippines will not be using these batteries as a primary measure against a Chinese fleet, but more as a deterrent against the use of landing craft where the aim is shore defence.

[@jetrickgordo4026]

Unfortunately due to budget restraints, the approximate battery composition our Marines will recieve will compose of 3 MLU's with 2 missiles per each MLU's at the lowest or 4 MLU's with 2 missiles per each at rhe highest. So the first simulation of 12 missiles salvo is pretty much accurate of what a Philippine version 2 Brahmos battery will launch.

[@PoliticalSeer-ii3wh]

HQ-9B Cannot Defend Against the BrahMos Pakistan Has Several HQ-9B Batteries, and India FiredJust 1 BrahMos inside Pakistan And That too was Travelling at 40,000 Feet Altitude, Still Pakistan Army Said They Didn't have the capability to Defend Against the BrahMos. Forget About Defending Against Sea Skimming BrahMos, The HQ-9B Can't Even Stop a High Altitude Flying BrahMos

[@sngemar2664]

Brahmos is World's fastest Supersonic cruise missile and 3× times more faster than American Tomahawk And brahmos also capable to do sea-skimming Crezy 😮

[@redman1249]

Tomahawk is a cruise missile, the Brahmos is a anti-ship missile.

[@sngemar2664]

@@redman1249 I think You need Defence knowledge Brahmos is a Supersonic cruise missile and Tomahawk is a Subsonic cruise missile USA use tomahawk as a Anti-ship missile

[@7rhythm]

​​@@redman1249nope it can be installed in jets, ships, drones etc making it future ready missile technology. It up to Philippines where to install them

[@matthewkern3619]

What effect would an air wing of F15-EX stationed on the Philippines have?

[@r1ppl3_13]

1:56 protectorate implies some restriction on autonomy which is not true. But yes the philippines is an ally of america.

[@russelfang7434]

Bro really knows how to harvest those clicks.😅

[@clownmeat792]

Cap: just trust me on this. Source: cap

[@grimreapers]

I heard that is a VERY reliable source...

[@clownmeat792]

@@grimreapers obviously

[@vivekkumar-fx7pg]

brahmos maintain supersonic speed throughout it's range

[@sarangkulkarni7034]

I think the maneuverability at the terminal phase is what is most dangerous feature of Brahmos without that the simulation is not very realistic.

[@ashubk2052]

OK ! We can always send another one for a reality check😅

[@bzipoli]

aren't the exports limited to 290km tho?

[@rajendrakalari9467]

Yes.

[@akhiltyagi6141]

Its funny how ukraine couldn’t stop even a single brahmos till now. But amwrixan youtubers analysis show brahmos is defeatable

[@shamanbhattacharyya9285]

Ukraine couldn't stop Onyx missiles 🤣🤣, imagine if Russia used brahmos missiles against them.

[@Rahul_Singh100]

Brahmos wasnt even used in Ukraine as far as I know. Russia used Onyx.

[@pandibbarman]

Ukraine couldn't do it because their capabilities are very limited. You shouldn't underplay Chinese capabilities lol they have far better capabilities then even many european nations. Not to mention cruise missiles are usually very hard to intercept as they fly very low. But they aren't impossible to intercept you simply need more resources 🤷‍♂️ and it's very easy to detect cruise missiles if you have a awacs as they can see very low.

[@vishalrao4073]

There are differences between onyx and BrahMos. BrahMos is superior, faster and very costly missile than onyx. If anyone can't face onyx in reality, then they shouldn't even dream to face BrahMos.

[@coreymoyers5771]

Next time, give the carrier group EWACs support for earlier detection to see how much, if any, of a difference it makes.

[@Kevin-hb7yq]

Nifty.. valued and nifty.

[@venugopalkarakattu4046]

Brahmos delivered from a fighter is more dangerous as it will gain the speed and velocity to strike at any target before the other side responds. That is why China and even US are very much cautious when dealing with Bharat, a well qualified nuclear power, with multiple strike capability. Everyone should think 1000 times before taking false steps against Bharat, a Peace Loving Nation 👍👏👏👏👏.

[@柏宇朱-w1n]

why 055 and KJ2000 target the Brahmos in such short distance? Brahmos isn't a Stealth missile

[@grimreapers]

I actually don't know, I haven't set it as a stealth missile.

[@mephisto2359]

Brahmos has Stealth coating.

[@pandibbarman]

It doesn't lol ​@@mephisto2359

[@EstablishedFlight]

Darn it why are we always the baddies? (Joke, I'm Chinese lol)

[@grimreapers]

lols

[@satyamjee-yz1ul]

yo i mma tag xi that you are using youtube via vpn, he will give you nice ass whooping

[@tatonoot1950]

Would be interesting if the plans of AFP, aside from the marine corps possessing this, the army desires to purchase these as well, particularly a 500km range variant. That would signficantly increase the numbers, and if they fully arm the batteries with the amount of missiles they were designed for.

[@sradhandas5174]

No Chinese Air defance Can detect Brahmos , we have seen in Pakistan...recently India misfire a brahmosh missile but the best chinese Air defance missile HQ-9 failed to intercept this missile.....the only missile system which can detect and counter brahmosh is Barak-8 SAM system which is also developed by India and Israel

[@stone1227]

Looks like lndia is invincible on the whole planet. No one can stop lndians 😆😆

[@mephisto2359]

​@@stone1227Not so much ! India even beating US in Thorium reactor techs.

[@sradhandas5174]

@@stone1227 hahaha...so funny ..i'm just saying china doesn't have the capability stop stop Brahmos yet

[@pandibbarman]

😂 Israel probably already gave all the info to the US on how to intercept brahmos

[@Ashis_Kumar.]

I don't see the Brahmos missile travelling at a speed of 0.8KM/Second. It is travelling like a speed boat in this simulation. 😛

[@DirtyHairy1]

hey, i cant read the text at the end. any hints on how to hide those fs overlays at the video end

[@Shubhabratabanerjee]

If you are watching on a smartphone, then drag down the screen a bit and don't release your fingers. The suggested video overlays would be gone. As soon as you release your fingers, the overlays would come again. Hope it helped 😇

[@DirtyHairy1]

@@Shubhabratabanerjee thanks... I had hoped there was some sort of hidden YT setting to hide or click that away. Ty anyway!

[@hughmungus2760]

yeah without AWACs modern warships really don't stand much of a chance against supersonic sea skimmers. 25nm just does not give enough time for anything to react fast enough to a large volley.

[@breakingthehumdrum]

No 'S' maneuvers, the missile is going too high to be detected by the ship. How is that a brahmos ? Just imagine a sea skimming missile which can dodge the counters.

[@newlife8141]

One major mistake brahmos perform S manuever before hit the target so that was missing....reaching 1 to 2 miles distance barhmos performS mansuver at march 2 speed so there is no chance to perdict the path ....

[@austink4712]

Aegis is capable of shooting down ICBMs at apogee, so I don't think DCS is correctly modeling how well it works. This comes from the Iranian attack on Isreal when USN used an Aegis missle cruiser to shoot down an exo atmospheric balistic missile

[@John-d8p]

These Russian super sonic anti-ship missiles can fly as low as 5 meters above sea level during their terminal phase, which means a shipborne radar can only pick it up at 20-22 km range, which is simply not enough time to complete the kill chain against a saturation attack. Plus, if the incoming incoming missiles are flying too close to each other, then it will further complicate target detection and given the short reaction window, I'd say this result is definitely plausible. Now, if you have an AWACS up, then it will be a different game.

[@anmolsharma2266]

ballistic and cruise missiles have different trajectories

[@agnesakioyamen2576]

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[@mephisto2359]

​@@John-d8pIt is Indian missile not Russia's

[@John-d8p]

@@mephisto2359 No, it is not as the key technology that actually makes these missiles go supersonic is still imported from Russia.

[@cgtim3230]

Rus used 223 P-700 Onyx in Ukr, which is the system based on which Brahmos was developed. 190 out of 223 found their targets when facing top of the line US and NATO air def systems. Brahmos primary improvement over Onyx is its 3D maneuvering capabilities in terminal stage to avoid aid def systems. Therefore Brahmos will be even more accurate. Brahmos a few months ago was discharged accidentally into Pakistan by India and Pakistan forces which use Chinese air def system were unable to engage Brahmos as it travelled unchallenged for 3 mins inside Pakistan for a total of 130Kms. These clearly show the impact a Brahmos battery on a carrier group.

[@trostorff1]

I don't think you'd have to add a whole US carrier fleet to this particular scenario to make a huge difference. I think simply adding a few US Navy subs would be enough alongside these missiles to completely ruin the day of a Chinese naval force such as this.

[@dexlab7539]

Same would go for Chinese subs to US Carrier near Taiwan

[@trostorff1]

​@@dexlab7539If you think the US is going to sail a carrier strike group between Taiwan and China during wartime, I want some of whatever it is you're smoking. US surface vessels would be much more vulnerable to air attack and land based cruise missiles in that area than a handful of Chinese subs. The fact is that the United States has been so far ahead in submarine technology and secure underwater operations over the past 50-plus years that its submarines are virtually undetectable by either China or Russia.

[@SubcontinentIndex]

Not realistic at all, its not taking into account S maneuver & sea skimming abilities.

[@pandibbarman]

It also didn't take account an awacs and jets to intercept the missiles