Grind Time Presents: Thesaurus vs Illmaculate Part 1 of 3

[@TheUltimateRage]

It's ridiculous that this battle hasn't crossed a million yet! This is one of the greatest battles of all time!!!! WTF?!?!?!

[@rcronico1]

+nmryda man i was thinking the exact same thing, then saw your post

[@mr.thunder1219]

+rcronico1 the first part at least should have crossed a mill. dunno why it's broken up

[@TheUltimateRage]

Mr. Thunder It's broken up because at the time of the battle's release, KZbin didn't allow videos longer than 10 mins.

[@Broot603]

in old youtube's defense all the vids combined has over 1.3 mil if im not mistaken

[@UndergroundResidu]

Broot but most of those are probably the same people.

[@SunkenDPr0]

RIP golden era of battle rap

[@Sonataman974]

+SunkenDPr0 Battle rap is still going VERY strong. You sound a lot like those people who say hip hop is dead just because Tupac and Biggie are.

[@TYPHOONproven210]

It's pro era now

[@HenryFlamez]

This was a silver era Golden era was battle on beats and freestyle.

[@jessevasquez7917]

Real talk

[@510island]

I legit can't understand why this STILL doesn't have a million views yet

[@LoVeInADiUniVerSe]

STILL.......... 🤔

[@Eziokilla9595]

Best Grind Time event ever. There were so many classics, and the crowd was nuts.

[@Eziokilla9595]

Back when battle rap was still fun.

[@RangedDeath06]

Agreed

[@miserablegit7751]

They call it battle rap for a reason, don't be soft

[@RangedDeath06]

Miserable Git i'm not soft! Er, I'm not being soft with you. I'm just sayin this is a good battle, that's all

[@Eziokilla9595]

Miserable Git Don't be soft? Give me a break. Battle rap now is weak. All it is is gun bars, and doing stupid shit like punching each other. It's lost so much of it's flair. This was back in the days when freestyling was valued as was creativity.

[@UpdoggWhattt]

Eziokilla9595 I'm sick of hearing comments like this. Yeah, there are a lot of gun bars, but there are plenty of DOPE rappers who don't solely rely on gun bars. And yeah... you can literally, in the history of battle rap, count on one hand the times a rapper got punched in a battle, so that part is also invalid.

[@DaSkarekrow]

Haha this battle is so personal....two good friends and even teammates.....the crowd really enjoyed it...love this battle!

[@ghostface3290]

And they still friends even though they did alot of personals that shows there love for the sport in my opnion

[@useyouforfood]

This battle has the highest amount of people covering their mouth with their hand. Classic.

[@t5s]

and no covid yet.....magine?

[@kingmike9515]

Thesaurus is the diction lord. His rhymes are art. Dope cat. Illmaculate is raw too but that MJ line killed em

[@Most1ntrigued]

i love this battle, one of the 1st written battles i ever saw and has always been one of my favorites and one the top 3 battles of all time

[@asafshkalim6865]

I still regard this as the best battle of all time. The jokes, the personals, the references... this battle had it all and it lived up to the hype. Not to mention , there aren't a ton of battles from this time period that stand the test of time like this one. It still sounds as good today as some of the newer shit we here. Illmac won it, but the bars Thesaurus came with would have won 90% of other battles. Also, despite the OT being the most memorable round for "That was me!", Illmac's second is definitely his best and most replayable.

[@aiyachristian]

Illmac will be always the be one of the greatest of all time to me

[@uGotToBeTheDumbest]

thanks for clearly clearing that up

[@t5s]

he will he be be will best greatest you all time... it's understandable

[@imasavage504]

This was definitely one of the best quality battles ive seen on here. Good job to both artists.

[@SyrianHch]

Dizaster's reactions are priceless lmao 🤣

[@sillyyomeexo]

its weird how i decided to watch this exactly 3 years to the date it was uploaded

[@beanis421]

PH in the background... RIP

[@N0regretz]

the greatest, most respected battle of our time between 2 legends which defines what it takes to be an mc, an artist. holds projection, energy, lyricism and rebuttals and personals of a high level.

[@xinsectoxurbanox]

Honestly, I think this is the best fight i've ever seen on GT

[@Gr33nPhoenix]

They were a duo in WRC, they separated obviously during GT era... So they battled here. (it's something everybody wanted to see, two legends go at it) Everybody wanted to hear them come back again, so they did 2 on 2's in written format. Every so often they will.

[@johnsonater8491]

I just like Thesauru's style better in general. Illmac was great in this battle though.

[@783jose]

east meets west ,grew up watching classics like this what a culture ,

[@lordleo9047]

Who in this battle is from the east...?

[@783jose]

that event had many battlers who came from the east

[@AudibleRocks]

"We met in 2005,06 and 07,that was a mountain to climb. it's been 2 years since then,i put 3 projects out in that time. do the math bitch it's 2009 and you still haven't been on an album of mine" That punchline was SICK.

[@Jonesmeister83]

Hahaha, cheers;) on a serious note, I've had a lot of fun talking to you mate. I like a good trolling match, but most folk crumble after 2 messagesXD I respect the fact that you never give up.

[@babysnoize]

"He called up crying like i gave a fuck *i didnt*." LMFAO!

[@vridaw]

2009 was the pinnacle of battle rap. Legends.

[@morphine1137]

An absolute fucking classic 2 legends.

[@guilitotorres9777]

This battle is still crazy to me even after so many years. 2 legends. This was so necessary. Alot of people emulated this afterwards

[@kechan13]

"You aint rolling w crooks and thieves or pushing keys, whatever" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CrookedRosePOD]

Love that part

[@azabee1]

ILLMACULATES BEST PERFORMANCE I EVER SEEN- PROPER KIDNEY SHOTS

[@SypherGamingNetwork]

I don't care who won, both the best in my eyes, evil battle XD

[@Jonesmeister83]

Very nicely put mate. You know your stuff, more so than me in fact. Salute!

[@ninjae4976]

That Scottie Pippen line was so hurt hurtful, but so was that Peter the sport stuff :)

[@HiFi5280]

Intro said it all, Saurus was there to have fun. Illmac was there to show he was never in his shadow

[@Nappy1987]

thesaurus angles was too much in this battle, classic doe

[@vannayim728]

2024!!! still coming back to this

[@starbucks-8472]

That Michael Jordan Line Crushed iLLmac. .

[@jaybee3327]

no illmacs bars about him not being on any of his albums shut shit down lol i bet thesaurus was like damn i aint never thought about it that way

[@kingmike9515]

That Jordan line was crazy yo, Killed mac. Haha

[@FriedChkn4Eva]

Jay Bee yeah, that bar is probably the coldest one out of all the battles i watched, from then to now.

[@YellowKing661]

Grind Time still has the best battles

[@il100374]

Man the simplest rhymes made people freak out back then haha

[@boogie504]

Whatya mean, they STILL do.. Didn't you listen to Cassidy, LOL

[@il100374]

boogie504 Haha straight up man, depends on the person though. Cass was gassed UP, through the roof. Unfortunately some people do get away with that shit. Example: Pat Stay, Math Hoffa, Cassidy, etc.

[@nicholassolis8763]

il100374 agreed but you gotta have a good medium between the 2. sometimes dudes be saying shit thats way over peoples heads and get silence. gotta think of the audience and make sure they get most of what you're saying. thats why i love daylyt...he has a good mix of that shit!

[@georgetravos2492]

I know they didnt even spit unoriginal gun bars automatically we got 3oed

[@d2izzle123]

il100374 fool.. this shit better then anything nowwadayz, fuck all y'all schemes an months of preparation an twenty minute rounds y'all new generation cats fucked the game up in all ways, this is the shit. fuck u.

[@puertoricanboii]

Grindtime needs to have comeback, with all the originals from back in the day battling again. siiigh, those were the good ol days

[@calmandcollect15]

It is pretty crazy this battle only has 650k views and its been out since 2009. If you don't know the history between these 2 then it takes away slightly but battle wise for history this is def a top 10 battle if not top 5

[@youngcarter765]

Although this is a re-upload, I do believe it deserves multi-million views.

[@Jonesmeister83]

HahahaXD I never noticed that. Nice catch lad, I hold my hands up to that one;)

[@mrcool72]

R.I.P PH!

[@joemnewport]

one of the best battles on grind time

[@BloodBathandTREE]

Illmac maybe 3-0. Jordan line was OK but Mac def got that round with that never been on an album of mine shit. Illmac Hollowman

[@paullaney3339]

Facts

[@SuperHns]

no way, this was a robbery TheSaurus got this

[@Treantz]

Diurno MX biggest robbery. Thesaurus stay getting robbed his rebuttals alone won this. He rebuttal’d 5 bars in one round.

[@chrisjohnguyo0707]

FlipTop - Batas vs Shernan brought me here

[@123Mathzak]

Wtf, Dizaster vs. Arcane has more views than this battle... Smh what has the world come to?

[@RandomBoxingGuy]

Bar for Bar, crowd, delivery, and presence and competatively....THE BEST BATTLE OF ALL TIME!

[@DJM.I.A.]

this was goku vs. vegeta

[@MICHAELULTRA-z4q]

And their compliment battle that just dropped really brings this full circle.

[@lordleo9047]

Saurus' tick-tock nursery flow was hard to listen to. The punches were there but eventually the corniness just eclipsed everything else by the middle of the 2nd round. Mac 3-1.

[@npholmes09]

Lord Leo so wrong on so many levels. This should of been a tied battle after overtime. Thesaurus had better delivery, better personal jokes and better flow/rhymes. Illmaculate had better personals in general, but had horrible delivery, and really bad rhyme schemes. 1/2 of his shit didn't even rhyme throughout the battle and if you can't keep a good rhyme schemes, back out of the battle. It was just overshadowed by his enormous personals.

[@ZyrusSmith]

Actual battle starts at 1:52 You're welcome. Also, doesn't Lush One look like a short, colorful Dizaster?

[@Nirvanarules45]

This should have more than a million views.

[@Blakewor]

@GetThatDoughBoy81 was that a reference to Storm(X-men)'s claustrophobia?

[@BeatsByKal]

so illmaculate and thesarus don't chill anymore like they did from like 05-08?

[@benjixx1990]

One of the best battles to ever go down

[@jamesmichael11]

2 legends 4 rings combined in scribble best battle of all time

[@Rtv03]

Can''t believe what i just heard. This is some real shit! That personal stuff beautifully crafted and hit hardcore! Definitely one of my favourites now.

[@nikolastamenkovic3222]

Great verses from both of them

[@kodrum15]

potentially the best back and forth battle ever

[@SiYanara]

This video needs to hit 1 million views.

[@kevinspacey9452]

whats the illmac joint in the beginning called?

[@twiztidlestat]

This battle seemed REAL personal, For obvious reasons. Amazing shit.

[@Most1ntrigued]

that intro song is called "I'm Grindin" by thesaurus, chase moore & okwerdz. and the beat was made by chase moore. its on that album that plex and lush were hyping b4 the battle called Fresh Coast Non-perishables Volume 1. its a great song and besides a couple low points that album its really good too

[@MrRaptors101]

this battle never gets old. my favourite battle of all time

[@fbibreaker14]

what was thesaurus on about when he was talking about grizzle? was that illmacs battle against madness?

[@AlakahnRah]

grind time was fresh as fuck when around the time this came out. i haven't seen a compilation album in forever either

[@finalflash929]

What was the songs for Illmaculate and TheSaurus?

[@xentech]

wow cant believe this was a year ago already

[@twiztidlestat]

Thesaurus has gotten SO much better since his ''All I know is'' early stuff

[@BigMacComic]

What is TheSaurus's entrance song?! Plz lemme know

[@Outherefordapaper18]

Best grindtime battle

[@alexonelovez]

@deansgnr do you know what the song name is of thesaurus's intro song?

[@fcukausername]

is that locksmith behind ph?

[@Jonesmeister83]

Nice catch either way mate.

[@Jonesmeister83]

It started as block parties in the Bronx and was created by various DJs and emcees but Kool Herc is generally given the most credit. Do you mean first recorded rap or first ACTUAL emcee crew?

[@umahomie]

what's the name of the song on thesaurus' intro?

[@kolcukolczasty]

what's the song at the intro?

[@syphlect]

anybody know the song thats played during thesaurus' introduction? thats some good shit. Anybody know the title?

[@gregoryostrom8639]

This is the best I've seen Illmaculate

[@jeecreative]

did they stop battling together?

[@finarrykahn13]

with all the personals, this has to be the best battle of all time

[@kc307]

On what grounds..?

[@Gloom_Under_Night]

whats the saurus intro song?

[@erwindermeister]

best battle I've ever seeen !!! that personal stuff is so raw!! "its been 2 years since then, I put 3 projects out in that time do the math bi***, its 2009 and you still haven't been on an album of mine"

[@dschist93]

can anyone tell me what the song at the very end is??

[@GusBeBussin]

One word to describe this battle..... Classic

[@Yuqiandygao]

good bars are heavily sleet on, after watching this and done a lot of research, all illmac's lines (references) are done, best battle ever

[@anth0nyandrew]

@DroppinKnowledge69 how are the 3 that ive mention not in the top as of RIGHT now?

[@estover4life]

what the song on illmaculates profile bit? 1:33

[@jeecreative]

playing the dumb brit here but just getting into this scene, are these guys now back together, saw a recent video with them both in Europe battling, whats the deal with these guys????

[@illyastheprof]

why doesn't this have over 1,000,000 views!?! LEGENDARY BATTLE!

[@thekeyboardmaster2487]

fucking brilliant thesaurus's opening round, illmac's rebuttals, everything here is just the epitome of quality battle rap on the whole fam we need to revive this shit

[@OKG2000]

How come in the first round desarus said he hasnt eaten lunch since yesterday

[@enrique5235]

whats thesaurus intro music?

[@MarkMarotta1992]

@MrsssChuck21 If I'm not mistaken, he was 17 in '04 when he won scribble, so that would make him ~24 now

[@joevanek846]

So classic you can't even put the shit in HD...love it.

[@jaredlyan7037]

So are they still “illmaculate and Thesaurus” or are they not a team anymore?

[@RebelConcept]

Is that Pumkinhead next to illmaculate?!

[@AudibleRocks]

@bigzooka420,didn't know the title but that song was included in Illmaculate's "Police Brutality"

[@CriminallyRegarded]

Personally, I feel The Saurus won. I liked Illmac's personals but everyone over-shadowed the personal jokes that came from The Saurus. The WRC punchline regarding him saving Illmac is so true. And that Michael Jordan line was absolutely sick. All-in-all, best battle I've ever seen and both dudes killed it.

[@djmrnelson]

Great battle. I have Thesaurus winning rounds 1 and 2.