Grosse Messer : Cold Steel Swords

Cold Steel Grosse Messer.
*Meats utilized in this video was carefully preserved and donated to the Ventura County Rescue Mission.
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[@cinimatics]

I'm surprised the basketball wasn't filled with meat.

[@DarkLordDiablos]

They use the basketball because of the density and resistance it can give due to the properties of compressed air. Anyone who has been hit in a soft area but either a football or basketball will know it hurts. Using one for this test shows how sharp their swords are, filling it with meat would require them to cut it open and thus weakening its structural integrity.

[@cinimatics]

Still surprised.

[@FyremaelGlittersparkle]

The bamboo pole, too. I thought for sure they'd have stuffed some meat into that. For, I don't know, reasons...

[@user-ql2sb6dz6n]

@@DarkLordDiablos there is always this guy

[@chimpypimpy8245]

@@DarkLordDiablos it's a joke bro

[@AlastorTheNPDemon]

Now *this* is a knife.

[@pvtspartan]

Technically it is my lord!

[@thebasedspectre3048]

@@pvtspartan actually it is gross messer means big knife

[@pvtspartan]

@@thebasedspectre3048 That's what I said lol

[@snookiewozo]

I'm always amazed how skillfully those two handle the blades.

[@poopdump2]

skillfull? they're just hacking as hard as they can. you should go read up some martial arts bro. maybe you'll find people with real skill

[@ryarod]

JsinXx I think Vultar666 was being sarcastic.

[@amishtechwizard5540]

I'm always surprised at the fact that these fuckers work at/own a sword company and are the equivalent of Dark Souls noobs.

[@MassiveTestes]

@@amishtechwizard5540 They're basically swinging the swords like baseball bats

[@longrider42]

The Grosse Messer actually has a marital arts style all its own. I've seen books. And if your use it right, you let the weight of the sword do the work, you just control where it goes. I own one, and love it.

[@DannoCrutch]

Dang, ole Robert really did some serious cutting in this video. Good job, brother. Gotta love Lynn's enthusiasm. Can't say Cold Steel Cutlery isn't tough.

[@shadowalker1776]

Out of all your swords this is my favorite.

[@kyleeldred3465]

The boot and the bend sold me those are some impressive tests and results 👏 I love my messer it's a beast thanks cold steel

[@VCBird6]

Own it and love it...and is honestly the most terrifying piece of steel hanging on my wall. It out-cuts everything I own. A bit heavy, but damn, will it make mince meat out of anything put in front of it!

[@Captain__Harlock]

Hello, I was think about this sword myself, but every review says its semi-dull and doesn't really cut. Did yours come sharp or did you sharpen it?

[@VCBird6]

Captain Harlock oh mine is plenty sharp

[@dannykeck2986]

Mine came razor-sharp and I love it.

[@adamcochran7950]

What the hell do you use it for? This isn’t the Middle Ages.

[@edge1518]

@@adamcochran7950 I use mine as a large kitchen knife it's nice and slicy lol.

[@WotanBarnes]

it should be "Grosses Messer" or better "Großes Messer" Greetings from Germany :)

[@bartomiejkempkiewicz4395]

Robert is a legend. Salute him

[@MaicoMoon]

Damn, this was a great review, especially with the bending part. All your other videos should be as thorough.

[@likliklik9515]

Any of you still prefer a katana?? B*tch please!!

[@Wright805]

I do but only because I'm an anime fan and some of my favourite characters use katanas.

[@deoproximo1572]

Jowen Dyer A Katana is a two handed sabre at the end of the day

[@jam1148]

Katanas are the most overrated swords in sword history.

[@Wright805]

jam1148 True but let's be fair. They are good swords that get the job done. Though I agree completely that the overhyping is annoying.

[@dominiquemusk773]

I like the katana better

[@HaraldDahmdamm]

For months I've been bullied by a group of cardboard villains. Not anymore, though, now that I've got a großes Messer! Thanks Cold Steel for making our lives safer!

[@BlackTalon53]

The "tough guy" poses and looks after each cut are priceless

[@adelmalouf6104]

Hi i am from Switzerland i buy your Grosse messer from a reseller from you. after few duels and demostration. things start to get shacking i kontakt the reseller he said i have to send it back to him for inspecktion. To send it back it will cost me over 120 $. So i decide to fix it to my self and i did with some welding and epoxi. So after all i have to say your grosse messer is good but not that good as you put it on this video. You can not do those kind of things everytime without getting some damage to the sword. So to all people out thier just inspeckt your sword everytime you use it. So you dont injure your self. Thx and have a nice time using your Grosse Messer.

[@edi9892]

I like their videos, but when it comes to their products, I'm really skeptical, since their quality control sucks. My Shamshir came with an oblique crossguard, protrusions and decoloration etc. and I've seen sellers that warn that CS has too many rattly guards that they can't even check themselves and sort out, since that would be too costly sending all those blowouts back. There are also plenty of videos of CS blades breaking or getting seriously notched. Moreover, when it comes to fittings and especially handling, other manufacturers are simply far better.

[@GenScinmore]

Geez, that rope......im dumbstruck....you could secure a pretty big ship with that rope.....absolutely speechless.

[@andrewlevin6331]

I got this sword a few years ago and i must say, i absolutely love it. The wood handle feel amazing in my hands and its considerably lighter then i thought. In fact, the only real complaint i have is that the sheath does not come with any sort of device so that would allow you to strap the sword to a belt. But, that's not a huge deal, considering could probably make one easily enough.

[@Dorchagraine]

Ok... Ive been in martial arts along time now, I am sitting here stunned by this video... Keep it up Coldsteel Outstanding job!

[@ItalianAvalanche]

Cold Steel is the best. best PRODUCTS, best ADVERTISING, best PRICE, and made in the USA.

[@johnsartor1811]

I own this product, and it is incredibly well made. The edge is shaving-sharp out of the box, and has mirror finish as well as a solid handle and nice balance. The size and width of the blade is staggering, and is like a Katana on steroids. This sword is a beast of a weapon. This is probably in the top 5 most fearsome single-edged weapons that are available.

[@partylikeyouaredead]

And these guys have the best job ever....

[@AkaiShizuku]

I want one of these, badly. Will purchase one sometime next year. Great job on all of your stuff, I can't get enough of your products.

[@2wfit]

This is the one that I've wanted for years and years excellent sword cold steel

[@Wright805]

It's "aplomb." Aplomb means self-confidence or assurance, i.e. "to do something with aplomb" means to do it very well. He's basically saying it can cut equally well as an Eastern sword.

[@cpu46]

@MadPyrotechnicus There are several reasons it bends that far; the fact that the bending is balanced throughout the entire length of the blade and not focused on a single point as well as the fact that type of steel used (1055 carbon steel) is a medium to high carbon steel (.50-.60 carbon content, steels with .60 carbon content are generally used in springs) so it has the right strength to ductility balance to bend without deforming.

[@akkev907]

My next Cold Steel purchase. Great products.

[@IKlimaXx]

Robert is a monster with bladed weapons!

[@24kRobot]

The boot with the meat left a big statement.

[@bossrob3707]

Has Cold Steel ever considered doing custom made swords for special orders?

[@HugeWangPiece]

These are the most addicting videos on KZbin...

[@Callsign_Kishin]

Husky guy in the black polo is the only one among you that actually has some solid form.

[@Gooseman2k2]

This thing has the most incredible cutting power! look at those TWO giant garbage bins!

[@1moaper2]

World record for the most bundles of string cut by a grosse messer? Why didn't I hear about this in the news?

[@cdx83]

I'm EDC'ing Cold Steel for a couple years now, none of their products ever let me down. Even though they blew out a couple weird, totally useless weapons, anything with a Cold Steel brand on it i definitely top notch high quality stuff.

[@Thulgore]

I own one.......damaged it horribly......I want 2 more! Damaged it on cinder block during a drunken party. This thing is badass.

[@KrazyKratosFan]

Can you make a left handed version of this, so the guard works with the left hand?

[@MadPyrotechnicus]

I'm not that familiar with Metallurgy and other things, but can someone explain me why the steel blade isn't as crooked as a walking cane after it's been bended for about 60°?

[@Crazedblades46]

I just ordered one of your catalogs using the link in the description thnk you for all the great products

[@MrCocoRobot]

Grosse Messer translates to large cutter in German. In parallel to the "da dao" in Chinese, which means "big blade", aka the "Chinese War Sword" also by CS. These were meant for use with conscripted peasants, who tend to have good upper body strength, and unlike double edge swords, these need only minimum training to create a formidable opponent.

[@leroyjankins2420]

thank you for replying i went to my local knife shop and i saw they carry the cold steel grosse messer and i got to hold it and it felt good in hand and it wouldnt break easily at all ill be be getting this in a couple of mounths thanks

[@gonad84]

What do you guys think? Is this the best cutting sword by Cold Steel? Seems awesome.

[@MrJustinArt]

Fearsome overhead swing you got there.

[@Just_A_Dude]

@GigaHands If you pause it and jump to 3:48, you get a really good still of the severed pig. I'm pretty sure I can make out the ribs and vertebrae in that shot, but even at 720p the resolution is a little grainy for me to say I'm 100% sure.

[@Kezan999]

You are probably right. or they are similar enough to be the same thing. I am paraphrasing from memory, but Hank Reinhardt in his book entitled "The Book Of Swords," basically states that there is no definite black and white with regards to swords, or arms and armor for that matter.

[@apugalypse_now]

@Damienx247 Not really. The Chinese war sword went through a chunk of beef in one swing. This thing took four swings.

[@ThermalGlobal]

habt ihr auch das "Noch Grössere Messer" ?

[@shinnoblablah5409]

why do u call your swords strongest ?

[@LordZachael]

Hey Cold Steel I know you are very busy but I would like to know which of your swords have the best cutting power. I'm seriously considering between these swords, Warrior Katana, Chinese 2 Handed Sword, Gross Messer, and European Longswords or Hand Half Sword. I want a strong durable sword that will cut well. I heard the cross guards near the hilt can loosen so that makes me uneasy.

[@dudest.v.g.5881]

Lord Zachael hand and a half or gross messer probably for cutting, long sword has a lot of stabbing power

[@46FreddieMercury91]

too right.having the videos is proof of the swords' durability,and one of the main influences on making an informed choice.Well you'll be pleased to hear that i purchased the messer off you today.Damned fine sword.Keep doing what you're doing !

[@cpu46]

@Bjo15 Following through generally means that you keep going after the stuff is cut. As for the guy's body following the sword I'm pretty sure it has less to do with his strength and more to do with his inexperience with blades compared to the other demonstrators.

[@cujo55544]

@lockbreak12 also, though I'm no expert, I always assumed that a curved blade concentrates more of the force of the swing on a shorter section of the blade, which translates to greater cutting force. I hope I explained it well enough too.

[@bobleeswagger8676]

German blacksmiths made, Gothic armour, Maxmilliam armour,Use heating and quenching most versitile, made the sharpest western swords. And made Grosser Messer.

[@ThePhoenixAffinity]

how come half the reviews i see of this sword, the sword shatters or bends if they try to do anything similar to these tests, only seems to be an issue with the grosse messer

[@PankoBreadcrumbs]

Not to sound rude but what are the bending tests for? Isn't it supposed to be bad if you can bend a sword or am I just ignorant?

[@m3rcur1u5]

Im wondering if they're going to give to the Ventura Mission also the meat that was inside the shoes.

[@HipposHateWater]

@ringsgold That would be the messer and langenmesser, not the Großes Messer. (The first two are single-handers, but the third one is usually a two-hander.)

[@gamerluke9247]

I think this is my new favourite cutting sword.

[@Doom3695]

It is also compounded into one word, correct? I am rusty but I also thought it was a Kriegsmesser also, took two years of german and that was two years ago.

[@stridingshadow]

@SweStuff94 Sharpness depends on... you guessed it, sharpening! So if a grosse Messer is made out of quality steel and is well sharpened by a skilled specialist, it will cut very well. European Longswords were generally less sharp than katanas, because they were designed to be swinged at armoured opponents (among others), which would quickly dull the blade anyway. Many longsword techniques involved gripping one's own sword's blade (through gloves of course) as well.

[@Psiberzerker]

I see you have a side-ring instead of a nagel. Would it be availible with a nagel?

[@Just_A_Dude]

@AAGuitar123 I truly hope that was meant as just a joke, not an attack on the video; this is a technical demonstration, and those tests all show things about the sword's durability, maneuverability, and cutting power. Also, FYI to everyone, a pig carcass is the closest natural analogue to a human body readily available without getting medical cadavers. Their equivalent mass, bone density and flesh consistency means a sword's impact will have a similar effect if used on a person.

[@GalokVonGreshnak]

Even though it's on the heavy side, I'm glad you guys have made a reproduction of a two-handed messer sword. The one I received has the blade slightly bent about 2-4 degrees to the left. I've joked with my friends that I received the original blade that was bent to show the durability of the heat treated blade. Guess I have the tried and true version, eh?

[@MagonTheConqueror]

I'm surprised no one has done this yet but here it goes: James Hetfield walks into a cold steel store. - So, you want a katana or a grosse messer? - MESSER! MESSER!

[@godofimagination]

Why are curved swords better at cutting? besides weight distribution and sharpness?

[@BeyondAbsolute3]

If we wanted to get a certain design or engraved message, word number etc. would that be possible?

[@andreynapalkow5520]

this work is very similar to the work of sabers. I saw such fencing on "carabels" among the Poles -

[@Breakneckhydra1]

@TheBeyondBeast What if you are attacked by a person wearing boots? Wouldn't you rather have this then you're bare hands?

[@battletoads22]

What's the purpose of cutting a basketball or a boot?

[@earleaccount]

Just out of curiosity.....When making cuts in this and your other videos with other products, do you guys use the same swords/weapons or different ones for each cut/demonstration? PLEASE tell me it's NOT the latter.

[@46FreddieMercury91]

why do you use 1055 as opposed to other sword makers who use spring steels etc? is 1055 the best? i like the messer.hmm i think i might get that if you can tell me that the sword on the video came out of those tests unscathed.

[@EgoEroTergum]

Hey, just wondering, what did he say about the messer vs eastern swords? Equal of plone? Plome? What does thet mean?

[@Gnostic88]

Is the back edge sharpened too? Otherwise I no likey. Still impressive though.

[@mojothemigo]

Gross Messers were actually smaller then that and one handed weapons. This is more of a two handed falchion, I don't think there were anything like them. There was a "Kriegmessers" which were two handed, but they were longer with different blades.

[@L4nd0C4lr1s14n]

Is there anyone I could discuss certain concerns I have about buying one of the items you sell, such as any laws that I may be breaking by simply owning one of those items, and other concerns.

[@Kezan999]

no, uh, according to wikipedia, there are a number of different sword types with Messer as part of their name.

[@spooned0]

i put my sword where my mouth is and now im posting from the hospital. thanks cold steel.

[@cinimatics]

You guys should fill the basketball with meat one of these days. That would make my whole week lol

[@infernape425]

i have a few questions, on my sword it came a little dull and the guard has become a bit loose can i send it in to coldsteel to get both of those taken care of and can i also buy an extra scabbard? and how would one go about carrying a sword such as this?

[@SuperLumipallo]

@allshallbelosttoyou there is a lot to consider.. like the length the curve and handle.. of course if it's one or two handed counts a lot too.. but still you can have the worlds most durable and sharpest warblade and can't cut a mere plasticbottle half.. on the other you can have cheap pocket knife and get it through steel plate (if the knife itself can handle it without breaking).. so the way of effective cutting is only a matter of technique and how well can you handle your blade.

[@ContradictoryNature]

2:21 I love the part where he cuts those bins a bit low and shaves off some of the wood plank underneath.

[@BenX74]

1:03 When you're fed by the Ventura County Rescue Mission and you have been a naughty boy, you're gonna get the bootmeat.

[@NeoRIGEL65]

these guys love thier work for sure!

[@mykal145]

THAT IS AN AWSOME SWORD,I WANT IT

[@Doom3695]

well yes but this is a certain type of sword being displayed. I believe that these have just turned a colloquial for the same thing.

[@TheFreakyJhonny]

I think the cutlass and the saber lost their place on my wall to that thing.... at the other hand, why not go and buy the saber AND the grosse messer?

[@omegaG100]

Dude, Robert Von likes like he just came out of Skyrim with that Messer!

[@brandonsnappingturtle4771]

On the Grosse Messer, what is the ring on the guard for above the hand grip?

[@wung97]

I was thinking of buying one of their swords. Should it be the grosse messer or the Chinese sword breaker?

[@WitheringintheDark]

Lmao I wonder how many times the big guy goes to the dry cleaners with all those soda soiled suits.

[@Wright805]

In the manga series "Bleach" one of the villains, Juha Bach, uses a weapon that looks very much like a grosse messer.

[@charliepruett1932]

the suspense when they bend it! is it bad that I really want them to just let it goand see it vibrate?

[@davsonik]

Grosse Messer is one of bests swords.

[@1ohtaf1]

I agree, modern steels are superior. Repeated forging would have burned off the carbon in the steel, and folding it was done to control the size of the steel. It would also have distributed the different elements of the steel more evenly. You're correct, the Tamahagana would not be steel, it would have high levels of carbon dissolved in it, it would be comparable to cast and pig iron.

[@GigaHands]

@RyanB2112 I think that pig, however, had most of its bones removed. Take a close look.

[@samurai7411]

Do the blades come this sharp? If not, what method of sharpening do you guys use?

[@Kezan999]

so, vs the grosseS messer, how do you think the seax holds up? this is an opinion thing, and any input would be welcome haven't bought a sword yet, and i am looking for something that might complement a hand axe or hatchet as a main hand weapon. and yet still be functional for a coup de grace during hunting, as i will be using a bow and would like a weapon to be completely functional for this.

[@earleaccount]

I take it the same is true with every product demonstration video?

[@P-XIII]

I never said pure iron is found in the natural environment. That modern steel is better, is what I have been saying all along. But I see my ignorance concerning the refignment process before steel is made and my incorrect assumptions following it. I have been told by metelurgists that, folding was used to even out and burn off impurities. If I understand correctly, tamahagana was not steel, but high carbon content iron, which had to be reduced too to get it to the sweet spot to make steel?

[@Kezan999]

so many regional variants, and minor alterations that can be done to a weapon or armor that to say "all these are this and all thats are that" isn't completely possible. look at longswords, which are also bastard swords and hand-and-a-half swords, depending on who you ask and what area they are from, et cetera.

[@slyrez]

ur website doesn't work for me

[@LordZachael]

The world record rope cut at the end of this video, is that still current and are their other swords you make that can do the same cut as easily? I'd guess the Chinese War Sword and the Katana could do it. Perhaps the Great Sword, European Longswords and your Hand Half Swords when used in 2 hands. Always wondered which are best for sheer cutting power. Great videos btw!