Growing and curing tobacco the easy way.

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Rob Murphy

Rob Murphy

4 жыл бұрын

A how to achieve free smoking based on my own opinion. Works well and tastes great. The price is the best part.

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@emmeponto
@emmeponto Жыл бұрын
Very nice, sir! Here in Brazil we remove the stem before curing, so the “green” from the leaves disapear faster. As soon the leaves are picked, we let them wither for about a day or two (depending on the temperature), then remove the central stem and then let them dry/cure.
@cmcc3505
@cmcc3505 2 жыл бұрын
I have produced my first tobacco ever . 100g in jar and 300 leaves to go through the whole process. Can’t wait to get it all done. Nice smooth smoke. Golden Virginia
@CreativeHuckleBerry
@CreativeHuckleBerry 4 ай бұрын
I grew my first tobacco last year here in Finland, did a big mistake by putting 3-4 together on the curingrack and this caused 80% of my harvest to mould, i couldn't save enything from it. But i hadd some 20% left that i got to smoke, those i hadd threaded one by one on a thick metal wire, they where really aromatic and tasty. I noticed the stems are very high in moisture, helps alot to cut the stem in the middle when drying, i saved the stems aswell and made tobacco flour witch i used to make my own Swedish Snus. The stems has a high consentrate of nicotine and when they dry they smell stronger then the leaf itself. Get alot of weight from them aswell so i would recommend not to throw the stems away, i put them in a blender and make flour of it.
@emkay9508
@emkay9508 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job man. Thorough, top to bottom. Good tunes too 👌
@Lifegrowsonandon
@Lifegrowsonandon 3 жыл бұрын
it is a beauty of a plant, and a relaxing process , the money saved is fuckin unbelievable with how easy it is, if only I knew all them years ago :P
@Lifegrowsonandon
@Lifegrowsonandon 2 жыл бұрын
Just had my first taste of home grown tobacco, Virginia Gold, so sweet and tastes better knowing how it got there :)
@clarkyshomegrown8119
@clarkyshomegrown8119 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video mate my first year growing and I'm looking for all the advice I can get the drying and the curing is the the most important. This helps loads thanks.
@Leo-Nee
@Leo-Nee 2 ай бұрын
This is one of the most straightforward how-to vids I’ve seen on tobacco. Loving the tunes! Fat Freddy’s Drop?
@bcniven
@bcniven 2 жыл бұрын
Great video bro, thankyou! Easy as to get my head around the process thanks to your video
@DXmYb
@DXmYb 3 жыл бұрын
IRS Disapprove of your methods. Good job on keeping the money out of the hands of government.
@NoNORADon911
@NoNORADon911 3 жыл бұрын
Support GMO! Grow My Own :D
@natashabegley1346
@natashabegley1346 3 жыл бұрын
Home-grown taste like shit though cancer in a year lol
@DXmYb
@DXmYb 3 жыл бұрын
@@natashabegley1346 Great I'll pay even less tax if I'm dead
@NoNORADon911
@NoNORADon911 3 жыл бұрын
@@DXmYb They will still tax you somehow lol...
@jonathanmontgomery7106
@jonathanmontgomery7106 2 жыл бұрын
Your roots go deep brotha! I thought it was my music playing in the background lol
@henryrackley3983
@henryrackley3983 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job on this video
@vanlifeblogdiary1960
@vanlifeblogdiary1960 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video very helpful!!! Sticky fingers playing on the radio my favourite ozzie band !!
@melvincollins5811
@melvincollins5811 3 жыл бұрын
NEVER throw away ANY tobacco (not even if it's moldy, green/"under-ripe", etc)... Even if you don't want to smoke/chew it... you can use it to make pesticide, wood stain, dye, etc...
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
Also fertilizer for new plants.
@Toomanymemes697
@Toomanymemes697 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for this !
@natashabegley1346
@natashabegley1346 3 жыл бұрын
You can use it to get yourself cancer quicker aswel!
@ryancarper595
@ryancarper595 2 жыл бұрын
@@natashabegley1346 Contrary to popular belief, everyone including you will die of something. Alcohol, bus, COVID, diabetes, over exercise. and a million other ways. Why bother watching if you have that point of view.
@nathangrueber9834
@nathangrueber9834 4 ай бұрын
Hey man im just watching this video. Took me ages to notice why your accent was weird. Im so used to listening to american accents on videos that when i hear my own it throws me😂😂. Are you aussie or nz? Cos i find perth people sound like nzders. Im nz. But your accents got both aussie with new zealand accents too. Gosh you smoke too much if that box was a weeks worth. That cutter i was thinkin. You could make new blades from anternating big and small washers on a rod and bolting the ends. And make two. Then interlace them. I got a pasta roller but im not getin it stickey. Ive got jap knives that a razorblades. Did uou know that american brittish tobacco is 50%shredded paper and flavourings and fine tobacco. Frim now on all of it hasta be fine cut floss cos it burns faster. Cunning bastards!
@olsonoutdoors783
@olsonoutdoors783 2 жыл бұрын
I love your playlist. I listen to high stereo love as well.
@jfvincent4993
@jfvincent4993 5 ай бұрын
Great video. I do exactly the same over here in zone 6B Quebec. No hassle method, low cost and efficient.
@williamtomashowski1486
@williamtomashowski1486 2 жыл бұрын
Hey,thank you Rob,watched many u tube videos on this subject.1 person was answering his phone,next 1 got up 2go 2 bathroom,then next 1 yelling at dog,1 was filming with his wife yelling at him,I won’t go on.All of the above were talking about there pipes,what 2 drink while smoking,there lighters,the weather,I wouldn’t go on.You where straight 2 the point,no poo.I be watching You only about pipe tobacco. Thank You 😊!
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why I did my own take on it. So much nonsense out there. Its free, its cheap and easy, enjoy.
@barnburner2475
@barnburner2475 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you!
@neemaamiry8947
@neemaamiry8947 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video mate
@Ludwig_Cox
@Ludwig_Cox 4 ай бұрын
Looks good man 👍 ive just planted my seeds yesterday cant wait to smoke home-grown tobacco
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 4 ай бұрын
Its a process and a hobby.
@sunset3052
@sunset3052 6 ай бұрын
Nice video!
@timeflowtap
@timeflowtap 3 ай бұрын
thanks for the video. Also in NZ and thinking about growing for pipe smoking.
@bcsnapier
@bcsnapier 3 ай бұрын
Also in NZ. I've heard you can buy the leaves somewhere here in NZ at the side of the road (not against the law). I'm still trying to find out where.
@rondiesel5827
@rondiesel5827 Ай бұрын
I used to grow my own 20 years ago in Charters Towers. I wonder what the laws are growing your own in Queensland Australia now. Great video.
@GoodNewsGospel777
@GoodNewsGospel777 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta be honest, just watched both your vid's, and I am very impressed by your method, it's both practical, and very simplified compared to so many I have seen, which, to be honest really complicate and make expensive the fermenting and curing process. So a big thumbs up from me. God bless. 👍👍👍
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what motivated me to make the video. I wanted to find the easy and cheapest way and was sick of all the nonsense on curing tobacco. Thanks for the feedback.
@GoodNewsGospel777
@GoodNewsGospel777 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 All good, and thank you for this, it was honestly helpful to me, and will be doing likewise this year. 👍👍👍
@clayveldkamp6739
@clayveldkamp6739 Жыл бұрын
I have been looking a long time for a method to replace the kiln fermenting of tobacco. So simply placing the fresh leaves between some moist towels and drying them once a day can allow them to ferment? I plan to grow cigar leaf.
@mobiusprolix8454
@mobiusprolix8454 2 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the cure doesn't happen until after the drying process, which is sometimes referred to the Color cure. Aiming for a bright yellow (hence the #gold in the name). At which point you bring them to the fermentation chamber raising humidity and temp. This is done for 3-4weeks and turns the leaves brown. Never seen it done this way, ever.
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
There's many ways. My way works fine and its low cost quick turnaround.
@alanomofo
@alanomofo 3 жыл бұрын
Growing my own bucak this year for fonto , BTW, smokin love was a great song for this
@adrionhemara5696
@adrionhemara5696 2 жыл бұрын
Good sounds bro
@brettgarvey
@brettgarvey 3 жыл бұрын
Nice irie tunes n herb brother :)
@williambock1821
@williambock1821 4 ай бұрын
I’ve grown other medication but I decided to try three types of tobacco for smoking this coming summer. Hopefully it’ll turn out as well as my other meds!
@winstonsmithsoul
@winstonsmithsoul Жыл бұрын
Great video production and advice Rob. I like your, No biggie, style. My first year growing, so it will be learn as I go. But far better armed with your help. Just wondering what region are you and what month do you plant outside. Thanks for your post.
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
New Zealand 🇳🇿. Germinate seeds indoors early spring (August here) and plant out in September. The earlier they go outside the bigger the plant. 6 months growth will get 7ft high.
@winstonsmithsoul
@winstonsmithsoul Жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 Thanks. Just prepping the planting area, I best get onto the seed trays. I’m a complete novice at gardening, lucky we have YT posts like yours to make knowledge so accessible. Good luck with your crop :)
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate. All the best.
@dadygee
@dadygee 4 ай бұрын
I have tried Mohawk, Aztec and Virginia gold. First I got a few sprouts... and then boom I find new sprouts everywhere.
@legentilhommedefortune
@legentilhommedefortune 3 жыл бұрын
I use a soaked old brick to rehumidify or green leaves being too scared it would smell old cabbadge ! great helpfull video Thanks
@BjoernNawrath
@BjoernNawrath 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe using the core of an apple instead might be an idea? used it for my pipe tobacco years ago.
@stageiiwappie950
@stageiiwappie950 2 жыл бұрын
U can use potato peels as well. Leaves no smell or taste. They do that over here. Or just spray with a tiny bit of water. Leave in plastic bag overnight. Dry a few hours if needed
@minime8048
@minime8048 Жыл бұрын
You will be supprised about smoking cabbage .. if done using the right curing method, you can get cabbage leaves tasting like tobacco.. i kid you not
@Ellis307
@Ellis307 Жыл бұрын
I’m just getting ready to stick my plants outside in early May (U.K.). I’m excited to try your process. I might also try a slightly more aged version as someone below suggested putting them in a zip lock bag with slight moisture, opening/closing for a week or so. Cheers for the no bullshit. Tobacco videos online piss me off with all this curing fermenting drying order crap. Confusing just to make it confusing
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
Best of luck.
@R-Lee-
@R-Lee- 10 ай бұрын
Those videos make you mad, why?
@user-gb4mu5oi2i
@user-gb4mu5oi2i 5 ай бұрын
Cześć co kraj to ina historia w Polsce jest problem o podłożu fermentacji i wyrwaniu centralnej łodygi bo jeśli nie zrobisz tego maszynowo (pneumatyczne) to ręcznie się nie opłaci a tytoń najbardziej splesnieje od tej łodygi. Znam trochę temat i widziałem już kilka ton splesnialego tytoniu.
@hairbag4096
@hairbag4096 10 ай бұрын
Like your video, some good basic info. Just starting to learn about. The American way would be cut the crank off and build a simple mount for a drill. Just saying.
@melvincollins5811
@melvincollins5811 3 жыл бұрын
You could also "re-moisten" them by using apple slices (gives it a sort of brandy flavor), slices of bread, or spritz them with Kentucky Bourbon (I prefer Wild Turkey 101)... LLLOL
@Toomanymemes697
@Toomanymemes697 3 жыл бұрын
Yup my great grandma used to do this when I was little :)
@rick1622
@rick1622 Жыл бұрын
rum and a good port mixed and sprayed and left to soak a good while works awesome especially if the backy is still less than three months old the longer it ages after drying the more mellow it gets i find its much more flavourable and no green taste when i was in hawkes bay on a small farm i grew VG for three years it was awesome 2 cents a cig had some massive plats eight nine footers saved thousands .. jumped back across the ditch 2016 its a lot harder in oz to get seed but im finally back on track the last manitou 30 gram i bought cost 80 bucs its insaine been smoking fifty years it what i do and i enjoy it the persecution trip is bs . mean while the crack heads get sympathy crazy world !
@installtekzdotcom9777
@installtekzdotcom9777 Жыл бұрын
First day of smoke for me today. It tastes amazing (Golden Virginia) however it burns the tongue and lips. I think it needs more time to age
@zandig666
@zandig666 9 ай бұрын
Thanks sir it's my 3rd yr of growing but my first yr of topping curing and consuming I've been picking the leaves when they are yellow but I see they use green leaves in some videos I've seen !!??!!??
@paulmorgan9775
@paulmorgan9775 4 ай бұрын
Awesome.
@jx4312
@jx4312 4 ай бұрын
good on ya,u sound aust,australia charge's $35 to $50 for a packet of smokes,.a 25gram tobacco pouch cost $60 to $90 depending on which brand of tobacco.
@CarwynHenigan
@CarwynHenigan 26 күн бұрын
Nope - he's a Kiwi. Different accent to Australia. And over here in NZ (2024), it now costs approx $80.00 per 30g pouch, to $140.00 per 50g depending on brand. This video is 4 years old.
@joscarmichael8341
@joscarmichael8341 Жыл бұрын
If someone could answer a question I have that'd be great! I dried my first tobacco leaves. I left them fermenting quite a while on the floor stacked on to of each other and then dried them by hanging them in little bunches. The leaves have a good color but smell a little strange (fermented, kinda earthy smell). I am worried i left them too long before drying. Is there a danger of smoking poorly dried tobaco leaves or leaves ? I've smoked a bit, it's alright but pretty strong on the throat. I have no way of comparing so any advise would be amazing ! Would be disappointed if I have waisted them all... Thanks !!
@easemailboxes
@easemailboxes 3 жыл бұрын
Great. Will these method produce tobacco suitable for placing in cigarette 'tubes'? Great video. Simplest method so far., thanks.
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Not sure as I roll my cigarettes. But from what I have seen there's no reason why not. You might need to put the tobacco through the grinder twice so its a bit finer.
@badgoy8439
@badgoy8439 Жыл бұрын
If i'm growing 2 different varieties, can I simply let one of each plant make a seed head, or will they get cross pollinated and become a hybrid of the two varieties?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
Not sure on that one . Give it a go and see what happens
@D0WNSINNER
@D0WNSINNER Жыл бұрын
If you cure/ ferment it longer does it get much smoother and if so, at what rate?
@BlendAndConquer
@BlendAndConquer 2 жыл бұрын
I live in a very dry and hot climate. Should I still ferment first and then dry or dry first then ferment? Also is curing the same as fermenting? I’m trying to work with Hickory Pryor and Mountain Pima (both nicotiana tabacum L). Thanks for this video, btw!
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Experiment and try everything. I found my way by trying many times and failing. This method works for me. Pick, cure, dry . It can then either be stored or shredded.
@joannepiasecka8449
@joannepiasecka8449 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Looks fun to😁 DO YOU KNOW WHERE I COULD BUY THE SAME GRINDER YOU HAVE???
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
That one is to small now so up graded to this one. www.tobaccoandmachines.com/index.php?s=produkt&id=97
@joannepiasecka8449
@joannepiasecka8449 3 жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 ... Thank you so much🌺👍
@iron1002003
@iron1002003 Жыл бұрын
I bought a pasta machine for $40 from Kmart. works perfectly
@aussiebob1315
@aussiebob1315 Жыл бұрын
glad i found this channel , where do you get the seeds from? i live in totaltarian NZ (just passed new laws where people born 2003 onwards cant buy tobacco products EVER) it's a joke and i want to grow my own $32.50 a pack of 20 taylermades here now
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
You can buy them online . Im in NZ too. Planting season is September so you have plenty of time to set up.
@rick1622
@rick1622 Жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 GUMTREE 5-10 BUCKS
@hathead300
@hathead300 4 ай бұрын
Yeah i bought a pack of a thousand seeds off TradeMe for $6
@nashnash6052
@nashnash6052 4 жыл бұрын
Hi rob thx for the video mate did you yellow the leaves in the towel then dried them ?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Fermented first yo yellow, then hang to dry.
@Karl_Marksman
@Karl_Marksman 2 жыл бұрын
This looks awesome I wanna try this. Sorry if you mentioned this in the video, I have trouble paying attention but how far north do these grow?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
What country are you in ?
@Karl_Marksman
@Karl_Marksman 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 Norway close to the capitol like 60 degrees north. I think we get most of our tobacco from the us
@stageiiwappie950
@stageiiwappie950 2 жыл бұрын
@@Karl_Marksman u should be able maybe. Im in the Netherlands which isnt tropical at all, we can grow tobacco, plant them in April. And pick them when the tip of the leave starts yellowing. They always do that over here. Idk why i see ppl in other countries pick them fully green.
@Sharon-yk7xm
@Sharon-yk7xm 4 ай бұрын
I got my seed from a pk of cig that fell in a bucket of water so i throw in the garden i was amazed how big the leaves are
@MrChrisParson
@MrChrisParson 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I have only seen it done the other way around; First drying and then fermenting with heat in a box. But does your way of fermenting get rid of the ammonia in the leaf in the same way a ”traditional” fermentation would do?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it sure does. The chlorophyll comes out and can smell it in the shed. Makes for a good smoke and have been using this process all year. Once the leaf is cured and dried it can be stored for years.
@MrChrisParson
@MrChrisParson 3 жыл бұрын
I see! For how long do you usually leave the leaves in the fermenting pile?
@nickkitchener6155
@nickkitchener6155 Жыл бұрын
What he is doing is making tobacco for cigarettes. Cigar tobacco is treated differently which is why they smell and taste different when you smoke them. If you want that cigar type tobacco, then you take the leaves he has at the point of shredding, and instead of shredding them, you need to ferment them in a hot, moist environment. It's almost like the early stage of composting where the leaves break down a bit and release ammonia. They also darken. If you have a ton of leaves then you stack them into a compost like pile as they do on the plantations. Otherwise you have to replicate the conditions inside a box. You could probably do it by putting the leaves in a container and actually burying it inside a compost pile for a few weeks. Something to try out.
@minime8048
@minime8048 Жыл бұрын
@@nickkitchener6155 Thats very good advice he skipped the next lvl of fermenting process. better still put the leaves in a ziplock bag , spray a little water in it for moisture. Zip up the bag and put it on the dashboard of your car.. each day open it up air it out .. rince and repeat for 4- 5 days each day you do this, you will smell compost.. keep going with the open up dry out in the bag, moisten again .. around the 6 -7 day .. open it up and it will smell like chocolate, a very sweet smell .. then you know its done. Dry, cut and smoke 😤 👍
@kylelochhead4785
@kylelochhead4785 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t say how long you ferment the semi yellow leaves under the towel for, or more to the point: how to judge when they are perfectly fermented ready for hanging and drying, any tips on that? Is it just when they go yellow? Otherwise THANK YOU so much for this video and putting this skill in my hands! Cheers from Scotland.
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
Its a good question. I sort of go by what looks like will dry well. All yellow is perfect but the yellow can start to rot if you don't take them out to air dry.
@kylelochhead4785
@kylelochhead4785 Жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 great, thank you. One other thing I thought about; if the fully yellow leaves still on the plant can jus the considered fermented already and hung up to dry without fermenting in the towel; why do ferment in the first place? And not just let it happen on the plant and take the fully yellow ones?
@1worldgaming18
@1worldgaming18 3 жыл бұрын
could one spray a light mist of rum whiskey brandy on the leaves to flavor them ? and if so when would one do that in the process nice vid cheers
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
Try essence instead. More flavor, less wet.
@jordansinger5508
@jordansinger5508 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! I will be growing some next year. Two questions: How long do you leave them to ferment in the towels? 2: how well does it burn? I have heard homegrown can be tougher to keep lit.
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
Max 2 weeks in warmer weather but check and wipe daily to avoid moisture and rot. Burns well if you take out what you need for the week from a jar once shredded. Leave 50g in the sun for 30 minutes for final dry up if its too moist.
@carpathianhermit7228
@carpathianhermit7228 3 жыл бұрын
As a bored 19 year old during lockdown I had a go growing some and had some nice as plants. Picked them off when they started to yellow, had them hanging for a good month, tried experimenting by curing in jars and leaving them in the sun on my window sill letting them air out every day. I'm having some issues with keeping it lit not gonna lie, as a first timer definitely made mistakes somewhere but idk why they're having issues burning. Have them currently in sealed vac bags with some boveda bags at 62% relative humidity.
@demonetized6837
@demonetized6837 3 жыл бұрын
Make saltpeter and liquor your leaf with it.
@NapoleonGelignite
@NapoleonGelignite 2 жыл бұрын
@@carpathianhermit7228 - fertilise the plants with potassium when growing - it helps with burning
@carpathianhermit7228
@carpathianhermit7228 2 жыл бұрын
@@NapoleonGelignite cheers man
@pjg_77
@pjg_77 Ай бұрын
Looks a decent Bakky
@mikehein8970
@mikehein8970 Жыл бұрын
Tried this last summer and went through the same process but without the "curing". The texture, burn and inhalation was great. The problem I had was A) it smelt like burning leaves and nothing like tobacco and B) did not have the aroma and taste of the Drum (or equivalent) tobacco I so desperately want to match. Would this be sorted by "curing" with a bowel of rum instead of cabbage and should I do this after the leaves are fully dried (as to absorb the taste and smell of the rum)?
@minime8048
@minime8048 Жыл бұрын
It seems your curing process went wrong, there is actually another stage that this guy did not do during the curing process
@escapetherace1943
@escapetherace1943 Жыл бұрын
you have to cure the tobacco to smoke it, or it tastes like you are smoking a leaf. You can't skip curing 😅 also if you want to make it next level and get that sweet taste/smell you need to ferment it too, or you just aren't going to get it.
@alanross2876
@alanross2876 2 жыл бұрын
do you ferment before hanging or hang before ferment?
@ravincathomestead-cecilia2894
@ravincathomestead-cecilia2894 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there Rob, l grew my first Virgina Gold this year, and l dried it and then tried to smoke it, will it went up in flames. l have been watching and most of the process is for commercial use. l let them air dry and then cut them down. l have seen now some that state to water it and leave in jars, which l am trying, but l have others that are dried in in a bag. How do l property process / ferment them, watched your two videos but still not sure what to do as they are super dry right now. Please let me know. thank you
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry mate that lot is passed it. Plant again in early spring and try the method as shown. Cheers.
@MatthewHyland-nf2nq
@MatthewHyland-nf2nq 14 күн бұрын
what kind of grinder are you using? where can I get one?
@denismaurice1006
@denismaurice1006 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Thanks. How do you store it?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
Once cured and dry it can be stored for years in sacks. When you want to grind it take 20 leaves and put in a container with a cabbage leaf for 24 hours to soften. The shred it and put in an air tight jar and fill your tin for smoking. If a bit damp leave in the sun for 20 minutes.
@denismaurice1006
@denismaurice1006 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob that’s fantastic!
@PaKa-kj3rj
@PaKa-kj3rj 9 ай бұрын
Kia ora Rob. I’ve read around where a lot of guys are “fermenting” in temp/humidity controlled environments with makeshift boxes (rice cookers and slow cookers etc on a thermostat). Do you skip this process? There’s a lot of conflicting info out there about the process AFTER air drying. Some “ferment” and some don’t. What’s your take? Cheers from Rotorua.
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 9 ай бұрын
Lol. Thats why I made the vlog. I to was confused about all the different styles. When I stated out my rules were "cheap and fast" and thats what I ended up with. If your tobacco is smokable, tsstes good and isn't mouldy then its a win. This method works but feel free to try others.
@PaKa-kj3rj
@PaKa-kj3rj 9 ай бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 Makes sense. My only concern is ensuring enough time for ammonia to dissapear. 2 weeks under the towels (with daily wiping) has been sufficient for you?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 9 ай бұрын
Definitely. Its been the cheapest way for home size growing. Pure tobacco taste . No chemicals added either.
@Mrjboomseedco
@Mrjboomseedco 2 жыл бұрын
Where did u get that grinder I really like it ?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
www.google.com/search?q=tobacco+shredder&oq=tobbaco+shredd&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13l5j0i13i457j0i13j0i22i30.11460j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=mSaV5H0gVGckhM
@cindysquirrelloffgrid9514
@cindysquirrelloffgrid9514 3 жыл бұрын
great video. how do you keep it fresh for say 9 months?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
Leaf can stay stored for years when in dry and crisp state. When ready to use put 50 in a big container with cabbage leaf for 48 hours until soft. Shread and smoke.
@minime8048
@minime8048 Жыл бұрын
if you still have it after 9 months .. you havent been smoking enough
@Mrjboomseedco
@Mrjboomseedco 2 жыл бұрын
I got some Alaskan type do they still give you the satisfaction like a commercial cigarette with less chemicals?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
I got used to it.
@thedude4795
@thedude4795 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck me dead, In one week he saved 300 dollars? He must smoke like a chimney!
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Tobacco expensive tax in New Zealand . $40 NZ dollars for pack of 20 .
@JohnDoe-dx7bu
@JohnDoe-dx7bu 3 жыл бұрын
How long does it take to cure in regards of seed to smoking time on average? Thanks Brother
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
6 months at the earliest.
@janettepond7896
@janettepond7896 Жыл бұрын
What grinder is that and if you could please tell me where you got it from?
@minime8048
@minime8048 Жыл бұрын
Spaghetti noodle making machine will do the same process
@notaflicker
@notaflicker Жыл бұрын
Im at the stage where i have dried the leaves and they are the same as yours. Im taking the stalks out now, My question is do i need to leave them to age or are ready to smoke now?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
If you have a lot then they can be stored in sacks and will mellow with time. If they a crispy dry put a bunch in a big plastic container with a cabbage leaf overnight. They need to be leathery when you shred them. If to wet leave in the sun for 10 - 20 minutes.
@audiohabbits6475
@audiohabbits6475 3 жыл бұрын
Lol katchafire in the background
@kieranbroadfield3401
@kieranbroadfield3401 Жыл бұрын
Hi Rob. For leaves that turn yellow on the plant, are you still ‘curing’ them, or just hang them straight up to dry? Price of smokes here in NZ I need to start growing 🤣
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
Thats why i started growing. Yes they will need time in the blankets but you will look at them each day and wipe them down. A bit more yellow won't hurt. Hang them up before the yellow goes brown and rots. The curing is more fermentation.
@mikemarland3726
@mikemarland3726 Жыл бұрын
How long would you say they take to dry I had some young leaves and they are taking forever to go brown
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
Did you ferment them to yellow first? If you dry them green they will stay green.
@MM-op6ti
@MM-op6ti Ай бұрын
Could you use a tobacco leaf for home rolled cigarettes?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 29 күн бұрын
Yes of course.
@ambermccallum4889
@ambermccallum4889 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, where can I buy a grinder like yours? Does it have a brand or a name on it? Is it a sphagetti pasta machine?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Tobacco shredder, online. There are better options for around 300 nz.
@cuznclive2236
@cuznclive2236 Жыл бұрын
I use a cross-cut paper shredder. If you think about using a new one, run a bunch of paper through it first to soak up the oil used to preserve the blades during manufacturing. Also, make sure the tobacco is at or above 60-rh; otherwise you'll make tobacco dust.
@minime8048
@minime8048 Жыл бұрын
sphagetti pasta machine works too. trade me has his machine for $39.00 dunno why he paid $300 😋
@leaving-learnig1220
@leaving-learnig1220 4 ай бұрын
you know when you harvest, befor hanging to drie, use something like a hamer or annything to smash/break the stalk running up the leaf then you get sweeter tobacco becouse the sugars dont get pulled back in the stalk and if you do it fine enough you can even grind the stalks seprate, and you'll see why when you do 😉 gr from holland.
@Sjak50
@Sjak50 2 ай бұрын
Hi, ik zie dat je uit Holland komt, voor mij wat makkelijker communiceren 😉 ben me sinds kort aan het verdiepen hierin. Wat houd nu dat fermenteren in, hoe doe je dat en waarom is dat nodig? Weet jij dat? Ik lees ook over oventjes enz, maar dat lijkt me met de huidige energieprijzen een nogal dure aangelegenheid.
@leaving-learnig1220
@leaving-learnig1220 2 ай бұрын
@@Sjak50 jazeker fermenteren is eigenlijks gocontroleerd rotten zonder de schimmel, denk maar aan bier en wijn etc,. en het heeft voor zin dat de chlorifofiel en de zuren tijd krijgen om af te breken dus de smaak word naar mijn mening hartiget, end de nicotinne, enz, word iets afgebroken tot een zout wat beter opgeneomen word in de rest stof die je rookt. mischien handiger om eens te spreken, ik kweek al jaren tabak, vanaf opa op vader, dus er is wel veel meer wat ik je zou kunnen vertellen maar dat zou je moetten proevem, meemaken, en zien😁, groet, martijn been
@-why--no-11
@-why--no-11 Жыл бұрын
What watt led will do them
@carpathianhermit7228
@carpathianhermit7228 3 жыл бұрын
As a bored 19 year old during lockdown I had a go growing some and had some nice as plants. Picked them off when they started to yellow, had them hanging for a good month, tried experimenting by curing in jars and leaving them in the sun on my window sill letting them air out every day. I'm having some issues with keeping it lit not gonna lie, as a first timer definitely made mistakes somewhere but idk why they're having issues burning. Have them currently in sealed vac bags with some boveda bags at 62% relative humidity. The types i grew were bonanza and yellow twist bud. When it does burn its got a lovely flavour however little throat hit, I let them flower for a few weeks so i'm guessing the nicotine levels decreased. Gonna give it another go this year. With my jar experiment, I had them drying for a good month and just as the leaves were crisping up with the stems still moist I put them in large glass jars, leaving them in the sun for a few hours a day where the jars would steam up, and id give them at least an hour a day to breath. II continued the process until the stalks were dry. As i currently don't have a shredder, I rolled up the leaves and made cuts so its a bit wider than you're normal shredded rolling tobacco but its not too bad. I did spray the shredded tobacco with distilled water to rehydrate it Do let me know if i made some big mistakes/advice for the next run, cheers.
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
Watch as many youtube videos on the topic that you can. Its a balance between cured and dry.
@carpathianhermit7228
@carpathianhermit7228 3 жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 cheers is what I'm doing currently
@ModernBladesmith
@ModernBladesmith 3 жыл бұрын
@@carpathianhermit7228 if it doesn't burn it is too wet.
@benjaminbutler3487
@benjaminbutler3487 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernBladesmith wisdom
@rvansteensel420
@rvansteensel420 Жыл бұрын
boveda bags are a scam , thats probably what screwed ya over
@masken72
@masken72 Жыл бұрын
where can we get plants price in sweden are crasy
@kulfon5609
@kulfon5609 3 жыл бұрын
its taste good and dont burn my throat if i burn my own havana gold sun and air cured ?
@kulfon5609
@kulfon5609 3 жыл бұрын
wihtout fermentation ?
@superfunkmonker
@superfunkmonker 2 жыл бұрын
how do u get the leaves to be pliabe when dried and not brittle?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Store in a large container with a cabbage leaf for 12 - 24 hours.
@ciervo_mulo
@ciervo_mulo 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of grinder/ shredder is that? Looks like an old pencil sharpener
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
It broke so I got a better one on the net.
@stageiiwappie950
@stageiiwappie950 2 жыл бұрын
It looks really good, the color is spot on with "natural" tobacco from the store like american spirits RYO. Are u growing in the tropics? I smoke 5.5kgs a year. Would that require a huge garden ?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. New Zealand
@kronikphase
@kronikphase 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 thought you where from nz . might give this a try myself im in nz too.
@francoisgilbert3266
@francoisgilbert3266 Жыл бұрын
allo, good job ! Tell me if my understanding is ok ? With about 2 plant you made 100gr of tobacco ? I must me wrong no, yes ?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Yes average about 50g cured per plant.
@francoisgilbert3266
@francoisgilbert3266 Жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 merci ! thank you
@squarepantsdance
@squarepantsdance Жыл бұрын
Hey Rob, thanks for this mate, are you in NZ?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Жыл бұрын
Hey. Yep NZ
@squarepantsdance
@squarepantsdance Жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 appreciate the vid mate, I'm a pipe smoker and it's damn expensive here, wish the government would just leave us alone.
@winstonsmithsoul
@winstonsmithsoul Жыл бұрын
@@squarepantsdance We can’t win either way. NZ medical system, we pay massive tax for smokes, supposedly to help offset the cost of treating people with smoking related issues. I need back surgery after blowing my back out in construction. Received a letter from the hospital that said blah, blah, blah and because I smoke there’s no operation being offered. I was fit, no health problems, no medications and correct BMI working in a physical environment. But put smoker on your file and well. Could we have our smoke tax back you thieving bastards. Other than that, Rob has been a great source of knowledge, my plants are outside in Wellsford doing well, fuck em!!
@alanross2876
@alanross2876 2 жыл бұрын
did you say pull the seeds off for better leaves?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Yes . Snap the whole flower steam off. That way the plant spends energy on the leaves and not the seeds. Save one plant for seed production
@greenbullltd
@greenbullltd 4 ай бұрын
So plant seeds grow plants when leaves yellow pull off hang to brown up remove stem then shred is it not dry tho most commercial is moist
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 4 ай бұрын
When leaves are mature green or yellow then pick and cure in blankets until all yellow and smelling good. Hang to dry then store or grind. Use a cabbage leaf in a storage container to soften for grinding. Experiment lots - good luck.
@greenbullltd
@greenbullltd 4 ай бұрын
@robmurphy5548 do they not taste of cabbage tho 😆
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 4 ай бұрын
Haha, no
@diycrypto1031
@diycrypto1031 Ай бұрын
The cat sleeping there might even help with the temp
@dennisstevenson1608
@dennisstevenson1608 2 жыл бұрын
Do you roll it or pipe it? What’s the flavor profile like?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Roll with filter. Great natural tobacco taste. No added flavours.
@cjgfos
@cjgfos 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the grinder that you use mate?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
www.google.com/search?q=tobacco+shredder&oq=tob&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j35i39j46i67i175i199j46i67i131i433j46i67i433j0i67j0i433i512j46i175i199i512l2.3563j0j9&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=mSaV5H0gVGckhM
@HashPhantom
@HashPhantom 2 жыл бұрын
I’m growing a few plants this year, my question is can I use these leaves to roll “blunts?” Or is that a specific type of tobacco? Great video!
@user-xq7re5sq1d
@user-xq7re5sq1d 2 жыл бұрын
It will take you a few years to ferment the leaves to make smokeable "cigar" wraps from what I understand. Cigar wraps are the same wraps you want for sticky icky
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Only the best leaves are used for cigar wraps. If you want them quickly ferment until past yellow to more brown then hang to dry. Put in tub and poor hot water over to rinse out some of the tar and nicotine. Hang to dry again. You can repeat this for mild smooth smoke. Reintroduce moisture with apple slice or cabbage leaf to soften then roll up. Leave to dry then store in humidor. Or smoke as required.
@sekovittol3124
@sekovittol3124 Жыл бұрын
I had a difficult time, but maybe the leaf wasn't the right humidity? I got it rolled but it was too floppy and hard to smoke. I think the trick is to roll it, then let it dry. Was wondering if one could wrap a leaf around a pen or smaller cylinder, let it cure that way, then fill it with the green shrubbery? Not sure how spit glue would hold up, but rolling paper glue is made from golden roasted corn starch and water. Anyway, I got about 20 maybe more plants, and for the past couple weeks I have been harvesting bottom leaves, but nothing is quite ready for spliff loads yet. I need to get, or make one of those tobacco slicer-dicers!
@clayveldkamp6739
@clayveldkamp6739 Жыл бұрын
@@sekovittol3124 the growing process is new to me, but I’m somewhat familiar with cigar rolling. For glue, you can use honey, cigar glue (it’s flavorless and cheap), or just canning fruit pectin. Once you roll a cigar it’s best to let it air dry for a week then age a couple months at the right humidity (70ish percent) to let it reach a consistent moisture level among the leaves. For a homemade blunt, I would think use the driest leaf you can still roll. Then leave it out to dry for a day or two after rolling. That should help the cigar leaf burn better and tighten up around the contents.
@sekovittol3124
@sekovittol3124 Жыл бұрын
@@clayveldkamp6739 So far, I just tear a rectangle off leaf I cured in a pizza box. put it in a paper, and make a spliff that is delightfully rich.
@Pez974
@Pez974 Ай бұрын
What do you use to shred your baccy,and where to get one. Thank you.
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 Ай бұрын
www.wickedhabits.nz/product/tobacco-cutter-magic-cut-hand-machine-ts023
@Pez974
@Pez974 Ай бұрын
Thank you,very much.
@lorrainestokes931
@lorrainestokes931 5 ай бұрын
Thanks can you buy those shredders here in NZ or did you make it ?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 5 ай бұрын
It broke not long after that and I got this one which can handle volume and bigger leaf. www.wickedhabits.nz/product/tobacco-cutter-rs100-plus-ts021
@lorrainestokes931
@lorrainestokes931 5 ай бұрын
Thanks again !
@user-gb4mu5oi2i
@user-gb4mu5oi2i 5 ай бұрын
Cześć, jeśli chodzi o rodzj maszynki tego rodzaju (walki) to ja mam coś lepszego za 1700 $ i jeśli po każdym cięciu jej nie umyje w ciepłej wodzie i potem jej nie przedmucham kompresorem 10 bar to jej nazajutrz nie uruchomię, zawsze trzeba ją czyścić i dmuchać w dodatku one nie są do tytoniu z łodyga. Pozdrawiam Nowa Zelandie
@PoolCube
@PoolCube 2 жыл бұрын
9:55 can someone tell me the name of that machine his using
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
www.google.com/search?q=tobacco+shredder&oq=tobbaco+shredd&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13l5j0i13i457j0i13j0i22i30.11460j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=mSaV5H0gVGckhM
@joeymaximus8146
@joeymaximus8146 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you purchase the leaf grinder/shredder that you're using?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
www.google.com/search?q=tobacco+shredder&oq=tobbaco+shredd&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13l5j0i13i457j0i13j0i22i30.11460j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=mSaV5H0gVGckhM
@nickkitchener6155
@nickkitchener6155 Жыл бұрын
I thought you were using one of those old pencil sharpeners they had at school when I was a kid :-)
@joeymaximus8146
@joeymaximus8146 Жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 thanks for the reply!!
@bojanstromboli1306
@bojanstromboli1306 3 жыл бұрын
I bought some tobacco in a vacuum bag here in Serbia from someone and almost all of the tobacco i buy shredded stinks. Why is that it has that weird smell?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
That's fresh baccy.
@dalelemac3394
@dalelemac3394 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to ferment them later? Due to the ammonia
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
The ammonia comes out in the yellowing of the leaf.
@dalelemac3394
@dalelemac3394 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 thank you 🙏🏽
@rodm2345
@rodm2345 4 ай бұрын
Maybe it's a stupid question but what process or how do you determine what can be smoked and what can be used as a wrapper for your own cigars?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 4 ай бұрын
I tried making cigars and got nicotine poisoning. Would suggest the firsr pickings but rinse well with boiling water after curing then dry. Maybe leave for a year or 2 to mellow.
@rodm2345
@rodm2345 4 ай бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 Oh boy!! Thanks for the reply
@tproductions6050
@tproductions6050 2 жыл бұрын
how much gram u get roughly for 20-30 plants golden virginia
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
About 70 to 100 grams per plant depending on size. Raise seeds indoors end of winter and plant early spring for big plants.
@ahumanboy1556
@ahumanboy1556 2 жыл бұрын
grew, picked and cured but couldn't get a throat burn out of em? Kinda like smoking yandi green. Where am I going wrong!
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. What plant variety?
@ahumanboy1556
@ahumanboy1556 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmurphy5548 Nicotiana tabacum. Not sure other then that.
@hemidart7
@hemidart7 2 ай бұрын
Where do you get the cutter from?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 ай бұрын
www.gentlemenscorner.co.nz/tobacco_cutting_machines.html
@duane-vw9nh
@duane-vw9nh Ай бұрын
Two seasons in a row I killed approximately 60 to 70 lbs of leaves the dried green I wasn’t able to get them to cure I give up
@mickromer6199
@mickromer6199 3 жыл бұрын
100g in today's moneys about 200+ dollars lol Where did you get your shredder from?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 3 жыл бұрын
Ebay or trademe.co.nz.
@mohammadalawneh8100
@mohammadalawneh8100 2 жыл бұрын
And what about fermentation?
@robmurphy5548
@robmurphy5548 2 жыл бұрын
As shown in the video.
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