Growing Living Rat Neurons To Play... DOOM?

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[@rubenflores1200]

Rat neurons “What is my purpose” Scientists “You will play doom” Rat neurons “Sick”

[@kennyoffhenny]

😭

[@JmKrokY]

Fr

[@UnusuallyFrisky]

TBH, that is pretty f***ing tight. 😤

[@cleptuno]

“You can also pass the butter, once you get killed“.

[@FuS3D86]

Rat neurons "Do I get cheese?" Scientists "No... you get a tone generator"

[@SunShineForTheFine]

The fact that human neurons are so advanced that they can force other neurons into playing doom for them is crazy

[@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid]

Makes you wonder, what we're doing for some 4th dimensional scientist using 3D spacetime instead of 2D glass discs for growth media.

[@littletimelord2755]

Ya know, you bring up and interesting point. Imagine how these other neurons feel, they must think we’re quite audacious to do experiments like this

[@PHneverwhere]

You gain conscousness just to reap and tear rhose demons

[@KinuTheDragon]

Crazy? I was crazy once.

[@harrisfh]

@@KinuTheDragon They locked me in a rubber room. A rubber room with rat neurons. Rat neurons make me play doom.

[@RandumbPersun]

3 questions of the internet: Can it play doom? can it show bad apple? can it sound out megalovania?

[@Alexandrek1922]

Can it rick roll

[@vonelgamer3071]

Can It Squirt?

[@unknownvariable2456]

You forgot one Is there p*rn of it?

[@Shinkajo]

Does it blend?

[@Swagpion]

Bad apple is the least impressive, megalovania requires some effort, and doom requires the most computing power.

[@GlobalWarmingSkeptic]

Imagine getting stomped in an FPS and it's just an array of a few hundred neurons that owned you.

[@Beta_Mixes]

Well, technically this was always a thing

[@MaxJ.ProfessionalLilGuy]

I wonder if the Petri dishes will be capable of typing “I mitosed ur mom loser” in game chat…

[@OMalleyTheMaggot]

Haha i can only imagine... *cries in TF2*

[@bigshot103]

Imagine loosening to something with millions if not billions less neurons than you

[@skepolotv4173]

Who would win? Experienced pro gamer with decades playing a variety of shooters vs. a neuron blob

[@gabrielwolffe]

"We're building a meat-robot"..."we're training it to play DOOM"....I see no way that this could end horribly.

[@TooLameToDie]

something, something, Skynet. Something, something Armageddon

[@onewithsource9742]

😂🤣😂 You guys! 😉

[@Barrel4336]

Hey, there won't be no problems.... unless a portal to hell opens up on Mars

[@onewithsource9742]

@@Barrel4336 all because Douglas Quaid blabbed about Mars. Smh

[@wizard_bunny]

Maybe it saves us from the Demons coming through the portal

[@Cry0fwar]

Imagine gaining consciousness for the first time and your just Doomguy

[@realbrickbread]

*you’re lmao this has just become a giant meme in the replies

[@robloxarchiver]

@@realbrickbread yuo're

[@codatheseus5060]

Yore*

[@theevil_Dem0n]

*er’uoy

[@m.i.c.h.o]

*yur

[@arthurcallahan6108]

“Ah sweet, man made horrors beyond my comprehension!” -Peter Griffin

[@GhoztlyGhazt]

Holy shit real living creatures that can only see DOOM and only live in DOOM forever.

[@TheCaptNoname]

For them, DOOM is _truly_ Eternal

[@judet2992]

@@TheCaptNonameincredibly underrated

[@GhoztlyGhazt]

And if they escape, DOOM shall be on us.@@TheCaptNoname

[@wooblydooblygod3857]

Pretty sure we have no idea wether they’re conscious or not.

[@CHICKEN_sandwich_from_ohio]

DOOM IS LIFE

[@FinnCrossan]

It's nice to think that someone's thought process while looking at a brain was "but can it run Doom?"

[@nathangamble125]

Well, it's _playing_ DOOM rather than _running_ DOOM. My brain can also play DOOM, but can't run it.

[@idioticlight]

@@nathangamble125 quitter mindset

[@kevynpacthatguythatdraws]

@@nathangamble125 you're technically running doom if you're thinking of doom.

[@leafly7917]

​@@nathangamble125🤓

[@kaiserofyoutube]

@@nathangamble125 nerd

[@thetf2trainer633]

Imagine frantically running home, but instead of, "I left the oven on!", its, "I forgot to feed my computer!" 💀💀

[@exered-pc8hg]

Warhammer be like:

[@chocoholic77]

bruh💀💀💀 this is funny asf💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@Zacc2001]

Mom: remember to feed the computer!

[@user-ey1pt2vd5x]

And then it becomes conscious

[@darey8321]

Wow a TF2 emblem haver

[@maximusheaton8375]

Pretty sure this is what Mary Shelley was trying to warn us about when she wrote Frankenstein

[@puppyqueen5688]

No frankenstine was about not being cruel to people who look different

[@appletunisheccincute6253]

But can Frankenstein's monster play Doom?

[@maximusheaton8375]

@@puppyqueen5688while yes, that’s a very surface level interpretation. Mary Shelley was a romantic who opposed the enlightenment, Industrial Revolution, and heroic era of medicine. Frankenstein was written as a ‘cautionary tale’ about the dangers of pushing science too far which was happening at the time. The monster is a physical representation of the horrors that happen when science is pushed too far, these horrors (the monster) eventually catching up with humanity (Frankenstein and his family being killed)

[@decentdudedisease5418]

I originally misread the title as using neurons as the hardware to run doom, but this was 200x more insane than even that

[@i3l4ckskillzz79]

Same here but I only realized because I just saw your comment

[@ashtonhoward5582]

I think making neurons run Doom would be far more difficult and impressive. But playing Doom is just the start.

[@decentdudedisease5418]

Well if Neurons can run a human, shouldn’t be too much of a stretch to see if they can run doom as well 💀

[@GWPvR]

The fact that only a few neurons are needed to play Doom is a reason for this games success.

[@noobinblender]

bro😂

[@GWPvR]

@@BB-wl4qz 😜

[@JackPonissi]

Lool!

[@mhyotyni]

If unnamed kid brother could play Doom succesfully in 1990s, there is nothing to wonder if a couple of rat's brain cells would play that game better! 🤤

[@SwampNucker]

Neuron Gaming

[@togglehd]

He really took "But can it play Doom" to a whole new level!

[@goofoffchannel]

Can't wait for down the line when it inevitably runs skyrim

[@TheDrakanMaster124]

But can it run crisis

[@pumbi69]

I think you got doom confused with crisis. Doom can even run on a toaster

[@TheDrakanMaster124]

@@pumbi69 I play Doom on my TI-89 titanium

[@suisse0a0]

Well, it is know Doom can be play on anything... he just keep the trend going and true!

[@sldtyp0]

Ok so this video taught me something. I have ADHD and get Overstimulated A LOT and when I do it’s chaotic noise and unintelligible yelling. The noise is chaotic and you said that neurons naturally try to avoid that and i definitely avoid being overstimulated so I bet that my brain is trying to get me to un-overstimulate myself

[@relixnova251]

Aw sweet man made horrors beyond my comprehension *sick heavy guitar riff*

[@stuff31]

I like that this guy's first thought when creating a sentient being is to make it play doom as if "can it play doom" is a benchmark that should apply to living organisms and not just old computers

[@Kishmond]

This is less sentient than a small insect.

[@StormsandSaugeye]

@@Kishmond *But can it play doom?*

[@nicolasherrera0]

@@Kishmond It's more sentient than a tardigrade?

[@ricecooker7037]

@@nicolasherrera0yeah well giving the neurons positive output is like sex for them so they’re having a goddamn party.

[@plumeria1985]

@@Kishmond and? Would you trust an wasp smart enough to play doom? I think not.

[@AS-lv5fw]

I taught human neurons to play Doom by playing it myself

[@KadenHartley]

Booooo. You suck

[@POLmusic173]

true.

[@Tanystropheus10]

No you didn't you taught them how to pilot a mech to press certain buttons that translate into certain actions and you choose what actions to do based on sensory signals based on light wavelengths (eyes) Very different

[@AS-lv5fw]

@@Tanystropheus10 Yes I did. It took me like 6 years to master this body. I'm amazed you've heard of my other endeavors. Are you perchance a fan?

[@protocolsavage8506]

@@AS-lv5fwteach me how to pilot a mech broh pls

[@Street_Mouze]

people in the 19s : Were gonna have flying cars in the 2020s : the 2020s : Growing Living Rat Neurons To Play DOOM

[@the_soggster3464]

What someone will say 100 years from now... "awe come on dude, he was 1hp and then I started lagging, my computer must be hungry brb."

[@williamprice7364]

We need to get a rat neuron speed run community

[@frfrough7088]

Shesh, you've got my laugh

[@user-hm1kx6xg3u]

Logical next step

[@aaronthecatten]

lmao

[@Atoyihrs]

Are YOU faster than a bunch of rat neuron!?

[@rebeccaconlon9743]

Rat%

[@miss_bec]

These man made horrors are within my comprehension and they're really cool

[@Tiziotozio01-cz1nd]

Nevermind

[@MouldedMind]

@@Tiziotozio01-cz1nd your grammar is beyond my comprehension

[@kaanthereaper256]

Man made horrors are the best ones

[@thearpox7873]

I can't wait for the lab-grown brain to face off against a supercomputer.

[@GruppeSechs]

@@Tiziotozio01-cz1nd I'm with you, man. This video was just kind of disturbing to me, when I think about the implications in the decade to come.

[@xn85d2]

Bro spent so much time working out if he could, he forgot to ask if he should.

[@lilliecelestedavis7968]

making the biomechanical brain ai orgasm every time it kills something couldn’t possibly go wrong

[@ruff1e]

At this point the doom community will overtake the science community technologically very soon

[@swalke6861]

Can we play doom inside our eyes find out in 10-50 years

[@thespaceman8231]

Can we play doom in our sleep?

[@johnconnorstopskynet]

Thats when the interdimensional gates to hell will open for real lmao

[@doomtrooper3184]

And the Divinity Machine will exist... Probably.

[@ulamoggyre958]

@@thespaceman8231 yes

[@jackpfefferkorn3734]

Everybody was asking "Can it run DOOM?" But nobody thought to ask "Can I run DOOM?"

[@goodguycarl]

e1m1 starts playing (in my mind)

[@The_OwO_Shogun]

Can you?

[@Hexagons7]

@@The_OwO_Shogun yes

[@hiphyro]

i think if you can play doom you can run doom because you're experiencing it which I think would mean you're simulating what you're experiencing in your head (to some degree)

[@apIthletIcc]

The answer is yes.

[@mehreganzare7658]

This video made me cry. Thank you, you give me hope that although I'm stuck with a crappy lab and professors, there are still real scientists out there doing real scientific experiments.

[@gunkwizardry]

I totally feel this, currently taking gen chem and my lab instructor is awful

[@jaymikevillanueva1212]

I recall in Star Trek, they have something called bio-neutral gel packs. The concept is that neural-based processors which allow "fuzzy logic" for faster processing time. This is cool.

[@DefaultFlame]

Pitting miniature clone-brains of the lab personnel against each other in a quake tournament is the most mad scientist thing I've heard in real life.

[@alexkha]

yea, why not choose a more peaceful game? Flappy Bird? Tetris? Pacman? Sim City?

[@michazadkowski8516]

​@@alexkhastellaris

[@dgurevich1]

​@@michazadkowski8516ah yes 'peaceful'

[@michazadkowski8516]

@@dgurevich1 it is peacefull after xenos are gone

[@arekrekas213]

most of the games you listed are singleplayer only one that's multiplayer is Tetris, and even then matches of that can get pretty sweaty all things considered@@alexkha

[@mekingtiger9095]

Honestly, the concept of growing actual organic brains, even minituarized ones, with just a few cells or loose tissues grown artificially out of an actual organism to do tasks or control a computer sounds FAR more terrifying than the digital AIs...

[@subbot8077]

that’s basically the plot of Bladerunner lmao

[@weirdojo2392]

It's conceptually uncanny

[@GodOfLovers1111]

Yes

[@DaTLMusic]

​@@subbot8077you mean psycho pass right

[@shweedy_]

its not terrifying, its exciting

[@TheLonelyStreetLight]

“Though unlike the missile the array doesn’t know where it is” bro I just got flashbacks of that missile meme

[@OhWizzer]

I think the best part of this video for me is that i finally understand how to play doom. I've had it for years but never knew how it worked, so this helps a ton, haha

[@grafite_x]

you could say that neurons taught neurons, and these neurons taught other neurons how to play doom

[@ursidae97]

Did you try firing the gun?

[@Cesar-ot1xk]

New episode of manmade horrors beyond my comprehension, good work, greetings from Spain

[@timmutaja5687]

I think that the explanations are quite excellent, therefore making them man-made horrors within my comprehension ://

[@Ennarmreal]

I'm so sorry, hope you make it out of there

[@uis246]

Noone expects Spanish Inquisition

[@Soul4007.]

Arriba España!

[@Gsus__17]

Sabes de algún canal o blog sobre ciencia neuronal o organoides neuronales en español? El tema me parece alucinante

[@jugel4533]

You're doing litteral scientific studies and present it as a KZbin funsie to fund it, you have my utmost respect

[@brutuschapman2508]

This man is grinding out meat robots and getting paid. The grind is real.

[@SixWatt]

@@brutuschapman2508meat grinding

[@LightPink]

I didn't see anything that indicates this is a study

[@jugel4533]

@@LightPink because there isn't, but when you're doing cutting edge research like that, even if you don't publish afterwards (and nothing point to them not doing that, this seems more than worthy enough), you're pushing the field forward.

[@brutuschapman2508]

@@SixWatt put ya head in the meat grinder 🤌

[@DarkArachnid666]

A lot of people don't know this, but the motor units inside muscles are binary, rather than analog, in nature. That means if you are using 80% effort to perform a physical task and you have 10 motor units, 8 of them are "on" and 2 of them are "off", rather than 80% of each motor unit being "on" like you would probably assume. Not sure how this relates to neurons but I thought I'd mention it.

[@maesdejardin8648]

"But can it play Doom" That really is THE benchmark for all things

[@Rhuke]

Imagine playing a multiplayer game someday, and you just get destroyed by literal neurons Edit: Istg people need to understand why I said *literal neurons* and not neurons controlling a human body 💀

[@soupcangaming662]

To be fair, we are basically neurons making controlled seizures (or shocks, heh) to a hunk of meat. Ennard controlling a corpse husk makes more sense now.

[@amvora]

@@soupcangaming662just imagine how our flesh is miserable in gaming compared to naked neurones, while we have to see a threat, send a signal for our hand to contract index finger so that we shoot it, neurones basically see threats and shoot immediately

[@whos_that_one_guy]

Test tube gaming

[@wintergreen9949]

​@@amvora from the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me..

[@Swingingbells]

That's literally how it already works when you're playing against your fellow humans lmao

[@Freakshowed95]

I’m terrified of the idea of severed brain cells learning to circle strafe at top speed and proceeding to play the game with the skill caliber of a professional speedrunner

[@Sam-hw4kj]

This is already happening with machine learning, which is literally bruteforcing any possibility simultaneously by abusing the ridiculously INSANE computational power of hardware

[@Freakshowed95]

@@Sam-hw4kj i know, but that’s a machine emulating the human ability to grow and learn. I’m talking about organic material severed from it’s original environment learning how to do the same kind of stuff on it’s own without any kind of assistance from the rest of the body it originated from. THAT sounds like brain-in-a-jar kind of stuff, which is exactly what this seems to be, minus the brain itself.

[@beebo33]

I'm thrilled by the idea

[@Beepers559]

The first artificial intelligence made of flesh

[@wta1518]

That already happens, just with non-severed brain cells.

[@user-go6qz8vq2r]

Anyone else concerned about the moral implications of growing brains to be computers? We've already established that there are things that these brains find pleasant, as well as things that they find unpleasant. I can only see this going down a dark route.

[@cosmicphoenix4136]

Exactly, that was the exact thought I just had

[@deadweightnero]

no

[@vittoriozanchi2492]

Like and dislike (in this case) have nothing to do with emotion. At this level those are just chemical imputs.

[@baller21324]

no

[@TheAggravatedApe]

@@vittoriozanchi2492 But isn't everything we experience some variety of chemical inputs lol

[@agmass]

My thousands of brain cells playing doom On a microcomputer during a test:

[@Marzipannn]

Adding "making home grown brain cells remember doom mechanics" to my list of man made horrors no longer beyond imagination

[@BiggityBoggity8095]

Putting here cuz no responses OP is factually wrong when he says that doom is only 2d. The game is legitimately 3 dimensional.

[@MortemRex]

Imagine what governments around the world are doing in a deep dark lab somewhere

[@Natsukashii-Records]

@@MortemRex Remaking old non threatening dog viruses into human-spread diseases?

[@MortemRex]

@@Natsukashii-Records ☺️not the government silly! They would never do such an awful thing

[@mohandamrouche7470]

@@BiggityBoggity8095 Okay can i have your truth about what you claim ?? Because i never played dooms but have digg into a lot a video that explain dooms ! And to what i know it is not 3d at all ! Only 2d image pre selected through the view of the player to only render a multi 2d image "collage" or paste together ! That why dooms can be play on a electronic pregnancy test of even electric thermometer ! And if you say well there is stair and level .... Well yes but it still in 2d ! When you use a elevator or a doors sometime the game teleport you to a another location in a 2d map ! what you see is only a 2d rendering and the clever trick of John carmack (wich is not is own idea there is a github explain the code to anyone with a goode levl in math ) is to only a reverse square formula to skip the impossible 3d rendering they were aiming to do ! Just think about it it was a time were Graphic card wasnt even at 1gig of ram for the randoms pc owner ! But i'll be more than happy to be wrong and learn a feww things about it ! But i'm sure the first 3d engine weren't 3d at all and use a trick to rendering false 3d ! You know that's why you can't have bullet impact on the wall or smoke grenade ... it's particule rendering or 3d object with own physic wich the game can copy and lie about but can not do by the way redering doom is ; Just like the video say the game is 2d :/

[@Nerdnumberone]

How complex does an array of rat neurons have to get before "negative reinforcement" becomes "pain"?

[@Nerdnumberone]

Also, does using human neurons matter at this point, or is it more a matter of how many neurons you can cram into it?

[@the_devolper]

@@Nerdnumberone I would assume human neurons are better at doing what they do because they need to organize in a more complex way in the brain and so they are better at creating useful connections... As for the pain thing I think that you would need to have a real brain to have the "pain problem": it would have to be really complex to begin suffering I think, and also if you tune the system right even if it had self consciousness (that I think is needed to suffer) you would not need to make it really suffer: it's enough to make an error create an unpleasant situation and a correct response a pleasant one I think, no need for pain

[@coyotedomino]

@@the_devolper all things suffer, on with the torture

[@tennicksalvarez9079]

@@coyotedomino brutal bro brutal.... Love it

[@feuerling]

A brain can't actually feel pain. It would need pain receptors.

[@hackmaster124]

It's cool you guys are using Intan. I do neuroscience research at a university and Intan is our go-to for ephys stuff. The RHS system is really nice being able to stim and record at the same time. The amp settling rate sucks though, it's like half a second before the recording signal is reliable. We go through a lot of those headstages because we use them with awake rats. Gotta love those NIH grants XD

[@greenavmshorts9335]

Rat: “I am Rat” “Rip and tear..” Rat: “Until it is done..”

[@thewizardtk]

Imagine a whole room filled with irrigated brain mass used as an advanced AI system… Kind of horrific if you think about it

[@kylehankins5988]

Yeah it would be pretty fucked up if that thing was actually sentient, if not I guess it’s fine

[@benjaminmiller3620]

Read any Peter Watts?

[@soldierinsane2689]

There’s so much potential here, this development could usher in a new age. Giant mother brain computer mechs

[@jacobydotwin]

imagine playing the next cod game in 2074 using a gaming pc with brain matter in it

[@maxk5065]

you mean "psychopass"?

[@toul100]

The fact that the last living memories of this rats brain is quite literally a hell on earth is crazy.

[@robinvegas4367]

*mars

[@SobeCrunkMonster]

a bundle of neurons is not going to be formulating conscientious memories or thoughts or feelings.

[@Nobddy]

@@SobeCrunkMonsterprove it

[@chilling_at_pontiff]

​@@Nobddylet me lower your neuron count to >2000 ,and see how much you remember

[@noahboucher125]

​@@chilling_at_pontiffThe number of cells has very little to do with their function. A dog's brain is way bigger than a rat's, but they aren't significantly smarter.

[@place_holder563]

He is building a machine spirit to slay daemons, just as the Omnissiah wills it

[@joshowens330]

You can get Doom to be played on crab logic gates played by rat neurons in theory.

[@Egg_fanatic]

We're just a bunch of neurons watching a bunch of neurons growing a bunch of neurons to play doom

[@coolchannelyt]

But can it run Doom?

[@ujvarig74]

Nice joke! 😂

[@Jakub98x]

Ever tried dmt?

[@Egg_fanatic]

@@Jakub98x how would I ever be able to afford that

[@ujvarig74]

@@Egg_fanatic I don't think it's unaffordable lol

[@TheGershon]

So let me get this straight: you guys are gonna grow Metroid clones of yourselves out of your own skin cells, and then train them to play competitive deathmatch against each other? Finally, the future's starting to seem interesting

[@zport1853]

imagine training against a living trained clone of your cells in video games or cooping with one

[@silentwraithgaming8631]

@@Blueness1230 we both know thats a lie

[@Ensensu2]

I would settle for sperm races instead of horse races.

[@gaintslash366]

I want to do this

[@MetroidFusion5044]

Doom guy rat: What am I, father? Why do I exist? Just to suffer?

[@the_corgster]

life will be forever nice sounds, bad sounds, and DOOM

[@JustWhyFFS]

Think we've finally taken the old "yea, but can it run doom?" meme, far enough

[@timhaldane7588]

lol

[@Numbabu]

Can’t wait to get the new doom port installed in my frontal cortex

[@Paul_Bedford]

No. Until we design the universe to play doom, we will never be finished.

[@BobbyBlockable]

They were so focused on seeing if it could run Doom they didn't stop to think should it run Doom

[@twistedyogert]

No, that would involve removing someone's brain and spinal cord and using that to play Doom.

[@seleckt6600]

Ah yes. One more step towards servitors and man made horrors beyond our comprehension. Excellent work.

[@rinoksilpshiknimenyaa]

Black mirror for real

[@x-rust5667]

@@Fangyuan838you reminded me of the SOMA game, you should probably check it out if you haven’t. Touches upon storing your mind as a file.

[@jacksonayres6326]

Man made horrors beyond our comprehension - or wonders beyond our comprehension. It just depends on whether humanity continues to value human/sentient rights.

[@davidf2244]

Sick. I don't believe experience is sacred if it even exists in some meaningful way. So bring it

[@wyldelf2685]

Remember the AI replicators on StarGate SGI ???

[@mmx2731]

This in depth video about your entire process is amazing!

[@blitzmaniac]

Imagine dying and reincarnating as a bitcoin mining computer💀

[@bunsenn5064]

Imagine creating what is essentially a completely organic supercomputer just to play Doom

[@superlexaan_]

You might like playing Rain World then!

[@superlexaan_]

You might like playing Rain World then!

[@valer119]

I mean that is the instinct of every computer engineer. Or Linux Brosnan that think they are computer engineer.

[@PoopooTf2]

You might like playing rainworld then!

[@psychicchicken5263]

You might like playing Rain World then!

[@barry6541]

Now you should turn it into a computer that can render a CGI spinning rat

[@TheGuyWhoComments]

Make the rat make a program architecture capable of making architecture to create more rat programs

[@kentozapater8972]

Imagine you just gain consciousness and you see your rat mother spinning into the void with a tpose

[@TheGuyWhoComments]

@@kentozapater8972 for all you know I’m actually spinning rat that’s been given KZbin access

[@Partyturtle357]

I USED THE RAT TO MAKE THE RAT

[@TheGuyWhoComments]

@@Partyturtle357 yes

[@Slugman909]

very nice work. Would love to see some of these ideas folded into quantum computing in order to play tetris. It's possible to light certain microscope slides from different angles if just from lighting below produced flat imagery, though you need to be precise, you can also use focus stacking to build more of a three dimensional image without it being lit from the bottom (might also be possible to import into photogrammetry via meshroom, though I've never tried) - look forward to seeing how the project works out and have a Merry Christmas

[@TheDarkWing123]

I did not expect a the missile knows where it is at all times reference in a video about a literal bunch of braincells playing doom, but here we are

[@TheLazyBot]

I demand to see more manmade horrors beyond my comprehension!

[@chickenman-ol6cw]

thats called death

[@GMoth]

This is a manmade horror perfectly within comprehension, no? Sometimes, the things that can be known are worse than the unknown.

[@tachikomagaming2451]

human creation is so beautiful

[@itscorvid358]

I can comprehend this pretty easily so that's your problem I guess

[@sunnesonne]

🤓

[@charlietheuncreative6737]

I am INCREDIBLY excited for these manmade horrors beyond comprehension

[@lubricustheslippery5028]

He is going to release hell on earth

[@boomer3494]

Well I can comprehend these horrors just fine, must be a skill issue 😎

[@mrjoe332]

I might even kiss them on one of their many mouths

[@sanstheblaster2626]

>man-made >beyond comprehension Pick one.

[@st.altair4936]

@@sanstheblaster2626 KZbin is man-made, yet its algorithms are not fully understood by anyone on the planet. Current LLMs like gpt 4 are also man-made, and their algorithms are not understood at all. Man-made =/= comprehensible

[@time_keeper643]

The human disregard for anything and everything natural amazes me. First me made rocks think, then we created life and placed it into the world controlled by those rocks for out own amusement. Great video and great project! I am glad I was able to experience it.

[@sadslavboy]

Just discovered your channel and love it. Very fascinating stuff. I cant help but be reminded of "A Clockwork Orange" cause your essentially trying to make "A Orange Clockwork" haha

[@aakashsahani2991]

"You can grow neurons from skin cells" I certainly need to do that to myself

[@vanconojl]

xD

[@orthotron]

Too much skin and not enough brain?

[@MatthewConnellan-xc3oj]

@@orthotronyes

[@catatoblob8598]

That's terrifying. Most people have "just enough skin"

[@orthotron]

@@catatoblob8598 you can harvest your own skin, just let it grow back each time

[@PoliceTelephoneBox]

I'm glad that the path to manmade horrors beyond comprehension is being recorded for posterity on KZbin.

[@nesnahnevard4907]

Hello future history teachers :D

[@Virtualmassslave]

doom is the way to go

[@stiffori]

how ominous, our doom starts in doom

[@preppertrucker5736]

Sci fi horrors beyond our comprehension coming soon 💀💀💀

[@ultimatecultchaos]

Agreed.

[@drgibs347]

Are you ever going to make a part 3 to this experiment? Its been 8 months since part 2 came out.

[@IsotopeSoap42]

Holy shit this is the lab meeting talk from a 2nd year phd student, that is suuuuuuuuuper polished. The project looks great, clever trick about the microscopes. Great images. Excited for organoids. Actually doing the crazy lab-conversation-project-ideas, I love it.

[@azraelcorvo9087]

I didn't realize until the start of this video, but a meat robot is basically a homunculus. Crazy how sometimes science loops back abound to its historical roots in alchemy.

[@dejavuism]

If this is a homunculus, then so are things like ChatGPT and all the other AIs. Hell, our CPUs and GPUs probably count as well, with the amount of 'neurons' and 'connections' it has. This video really had me thinking on the nature of conciousness and humanness.

[@azraelcorvo9087]

@dejavuism I'd say current AI tech isn't really anywhere close to complex enough to be considered conscious though. And while a GPU might have a lot of connections, I wouldn't consider it a homunculus either. I think the meat robot is close to the idea of a homunculus because of its organic nature, what with alchemical homunculi being artificial humans and all.

[@DG-iw3yw]

well, the capabilites lie in different areas, the brain is more complex and powerful than our ai, yes, but ai is seldom delusional or willfully ignorant id imagine too...Plus human error and all its nuances

[@idontwantahandlethough]

@@DG-iw3yw I was about to [jokingly] say "uhh I'm pretty sure ChatGPT has been both delusional and willfully ignorant"... but if anything, that actually reinforces your point 😂 (and to the inevitable nerd that comes along to tell me that chatGPT wasn't _actually_ delusional or willfully ignorant: shut up. just.. shut up )

[@cowsrbeefy]

styropyro quote

[@2.0_brittt]

This gives the sentence “my computer died” a whole new meaning

[@judet2992]

😂

[@Cheeser409]

Ok i now accepts that im a brain in a jar playing the new 2024 simulator

[@b.assmaster1504]

Computation Device: *exists* Everyone: YOU WILL PLAY DOOM!

[@puppetmon9687]

Damn, Doom truly is the universal videogame, it can be played in anything that can generate electricity

[@samuelglueck6911]

Too limited, someone ought to see if they can run Doom on a clockwork Babbage Engine.

[@kentestes192]

Well, there are A FEW requirements...but...yeah.

[@kingmonkey460]

This is absolutely stunning on my opinion. The fact that this can be a real, living thing with very primitive intelligence, and it learns how to play a geme. But at the same time, this is funny because just imagine you wake up and you're just Doom guy

[@Twekion]

This is what the neurons are experiencing "You have been selected to become Doomguy!" "Huh, what???"

[@elfstar7514]

@@Twekion what if neurons could learn to make KZbin comments. anyone one of us could just be a pile of bottled robot flesh and no one would know

[@manuell3505]

It's highly exaggerated. Most functioning, like the idea of aiming and firing is based on binary computer logic. Only dedicated decision-making might add a tiny bit to what otherwise would be a program with some RNG-trickery.

[@armanazmiibnamin1108]

@@manuell3505 You missed the joke buddy 😅

[@manuell3505]

@@armanazmiibnamin1108 And that is? Calling bs...

[@emilkanstedt5088]

What an INSANELY cool experiment! Id like to learn more of neuron cells and how versatile they are!

[@WomanSlayer69420]

Those few neurons did better than Dean Takahashi ever did

[@zoz2124]

As a PhD student in biomedical engineering focusing on stem cells and blood vessel organoids, this series is a awesome to watch and gives me a lot of ideas to try!

[@jan-Sopija]

oh no a smart person

[@starblight22]

I find this stuff fascinating, i have one more year of high-school and plan on going into biomedical engineering, i feel i know what it's about pretty well but I'd love if you could spare the time to explain some of the things you and/or your colleagues do in as much detail you seem fit. Thanks in advance.

[@jan-Sopija]

@@Jason-rp3jg no but they might actually do something with this idea instead of "can you run doom on a brain" (and j realise that theyre making the brain cells play doom instead of run it I used 'run doom' to emphasize the meme origin of this)

[@beaconblaster33]

oh no I'm scared of what your ideas may be

[@starblight22]

@@jan-Sopija yeah like helping paralyzed people interact with the world in unique and useful ways. The applications of using cells with computers and stuff as well as modifying them are endless.

[@davidcotham1939]

Imagine having different batches compete against each other in Quake. Then through years of tweaking and improving generations of this, you create the ultimate force of gaming neurons.

[@Dengar97]

Or you could take the best specimens and turn them against actual people to conquer the world.

[@LtdJorge]

​@@Dengar97they would only know how to play Quake, tho!

[@accuratehvacr]

Ultimate war machine

[@Darth_Bateman]

@@Dengar97I don’t want to take the best specimens and turn them against actual people, Spider-Man!

[@przemysawnowakowski]

And then release them into multiplayer

[@NukeDragon-ry2xw]

MAGAZINES, they're called magazines! A "clip" is a thin piece of stationary metal that hold the rounds in the gun. It has no built in assistance to move the rounds up to the loading ramp. The guns that use clips have internal magazines that do the work. The clip just holds them in place. Magazines on the other hand are metal or polymer box type structures that hold the ammunition while also taking on the responsibility of moving the ammunition up to the loading ramp using a spring and follower system to force the rounds up and out. TLDR: clips don't move the ammunition, magazines do.

[@zapwag]

If I ever get clipped by a petri dish I'm gonna be pissed

[@redtalon8947]

Breaking: Game Journalists are officially worse at games than a bundle of Neurons

[@defintlynoob4263]

i wont be suprised if a single neuron can beat a team of game journalist in a game

[@Puddingskin01]

@@defintlynoob4263 A single neuron is still more neurons than a team of game journalists, so...

[@originalbeedachu]

💀💀💀💀

[@Tom-tg2jl]

A bundle of rat neurons*

[@alexchunlin5527]

I can't believe I'm just a vat of neurons trained in a lab to simulate a life where I watch neurons trained to play doom

[@robertfox4114]

Botlzmann brain-like paradox

[@venustrap3030]

Stop talking you electron stimulant I’m the one true vat of neurons

[@ninjapowerx11]

Literally mythought though 😂 tell me thats not what we are now 😂 they can attach the nuerons to a meat suit or a robot, we are biological technology, biological being what we can "natural" 😂

[@Tah-.]

My neurons learned how to pilot a flesh mech, pacific rim style

[@TWITCH.JAVASAR]

Every time I get on KZbin, another video surprises me with the creativeness of humanity

[@Justin-dv7ul]

someday these neurons will speedrun minecraft, and beat all the world records.

[@the_devolper]

I think that it would not be that more difficult than what they are doing (obviously it is incredible in general)(I do not know basically anything on the subject apart from what they explained in the video): I think they would "just" have to make the thing bigger and write some more code that would still be similar, then I think, given that the smaller version works properly, that it should be able to play Minecraft, or at least perform relatively simple tasks in the game, like mining

[@rach_66]

human brains have neurons, so that's already happening 🤓

[@TerraKnight27]

the neurons will "accidentally" install drop rate mods

[@ARACHNIDPARTY]

@@TerraKnight27waiting for the day the neurons hire a rocket scientist to “debunk” their cheating scandal

[@kh6853]

Not sure how they could beat the set seed any% TAS of 20 seconds...

[@Superboy999T]

Imagine dying a peaceful way and all of a sudden, you wake up in Doom. (Thanks for 1.2k likes)

[@scardan1070]

They have grown a brain structure that is not responsible for consciousness. It was purely vegetative.

[@Mystical_owl]

real

[@WinterPains]

Terrifying

[@emmanuelakalusi3690]

That’s prolly what hell is gonna be like for most people honestly

[@jacobhake342]

I mean, it is literal hell...

[@The_Burber]

It would be awesome if you did something like this but instead of the raw location data, you give the neurons what you see on screen, and have them try to decipher what the things on screen are.

[@Kaldrin]

I was entering the video thinking the neurons would actually be the computer running doom. But this is still very cool

[@robertfletcher1871]

Hold on, so the old-school sci-fi 'brain in a jar' concept might actually be possible? I feel nervous, yet intrigued...

[@KaizokuSencho]

"Arrooo" - Nixon's head

[@The_scrongler1978]

I’m gonna turn into a robobrain

[@MagnetizedBread]

lol

[@kekekessa]

The brain in a vat is a philosophical thought experiment and while certainly interesting, shall remain as such for quite a while, as keeping a mammalian brain alive in vitro would require some substantial leaps in science - not even mentioning the ethical concerns. Grown neuronal networks have nothing compared to the highly specialized cell types, nuclei and networks (and much more) we possess.

[@Weldedhodag]

​@@kekekessashut up im gonna be a cool robot

[@Chris06660]

the first ever lab grown brain tournament sounds incredible, and I wanna be here for the day that happens

[@irmatroll]

He's going to Prestige himself into a jar. Worse, he's going to convince his lab partners to join him.

[@irmatroll]

@@Jason-rp3jg most people today would likely be uncomfortable with the notion of grafting a human brain permanently into a computer. Especially in this format, where it's freedom is so dramatically reduced.

[@thechazz3230]

​@@irmatrollIf he and his partners don't have the morality and self control to stop themselves from doing this. They need to be involuntarily hospitalized. They are not well, they need help because this is pure sociopathy and something no one should ever even consider. They have lost it. I hope they realize the consequences of their actions are vile and reprehensible so they can get the therapy and psychiatric help they desperately need.

[@The1Herton]

​@@thechazz3230you can't stop science m8

[@nightsquats]

I've seen the doom play mods like digital pregnancy tests playing doom etc, but what caught My attention was the neurons attempting to minimize ststic-like input; could that be why white noise serves as a sleep aid? Our brain is attempting to silence the input by going unconscious? Huh. Maybe not but fun to think about. Ok doom on! (Back to vid)

[@viribusunitis8617]

We can programme neurons to fly planes, drive around and shoot stuff. There is no way this could go wrong down the road.

[@s.r.howell1297]

I've got a feeling that DOOM is going to be a test of choice for the next 1000 years.

[@muguly4591]

In the next 1000 years humans will be the test choice

[@ClancayCargo]

@@muguly4591we already are the test of choice.

[@muguly4591]

@@ClancayCargo yeah but it's getting worse and worse and people are going to normalize it and then we're screwed

[@Stetch42]

That or Skyrim

[@Pablo-zx6ki]

Doom is eternal

[@nc2526]

This could be a plot for "That time i got reincarnated in a video game, but that game was doom, so I decided to live a slow life in hell".

[@MouseGoat]

yeah, guy might accidentally make doom slayer D:

[@mordet2]

Damn, sounds authentic.

[@atleast4566]

Would we call that a meatsekai? 😆

[@Electronica27]

Blended Rat: Blended Rat

[@Electronica27]

That time I was put into a blender and transported into a video game world!

[@d_zhang22]

bro we got rat neurons playing doom before gta6💀

[@cream5439]

babe wake up new horrific state of consciousness just dropped

[@SpringySpring04]

Its interesting; I think that if the neurons that were being used as the AI to train to play DOOM were to become somehow sentient, that "brain" would, from a philosophical perspective, be able to perceive only the world of DOOM that it is connected to. Really makes simulation theory sound a lot more weird if we think of it in this type of context, lol!

[@NotVergil]

Holy crap that's a brilliant idea

[@SpringySpring04]

@@NotVergil Vergil?!!!! lol

[@icedqq]

it only really sees the variables which is a bit scarier

[@thomabow8949]

Referring to the neurons involved as a brain isn't necessarily an appropriate use of the term, though I understand what you mean.

[@SpringySpring04]

@@thomabow8949 ah my mistake, you're right. I guess I meant brain in the metaphorical sense as a collection of neurons forming one? Idk I'm not a neurologist

[@Eutropios]

5:37 Don't think you can slide that meme past me, sir. "The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't."

[@helenbooth5109]

By subtracting where it is from where it isn't...

[@decract]

A neurons forcing a neurons to play doom. Complety normal.

[@BlakeAkarusa]

I love how biomancy and biopunk is more and more of a real thing