The growling Italian liftcran lifts are now finally sadly fully replaced with Jackson lifts the liftcran lifts was was awesome but it's sad to see them now gone since maybe the 80s or 90s. ☹️ 😭
@lalas895 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised and proud at the same time to find an old Italian manufactured motor there.
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
It might not be there for long though :/
@AlessandroCussino3 ай бұрын
L'ho scritto anche io (che il motore è italiano).
@DiodeGoneWild6 жыл бұрын
This lift doesn't look right at all. It barely manages to start downwards. When going up, it doesn't manage to slow down to the leveling speed before the brake is applied.
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
Visited these lifts a month ago. Both switched off and not working. Exactly the same 3 weeks later :( Such a shame!
@imsmart.4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the counterweight is too heavy for the lift to work right.
@imsmart.4 жыл бұрын
Those are some god damn loud contactors and relays.
@MichalM3 жыл бұрын
Indeed! All gone in the bin now sadly :(
@satoshiaaron6 жыл бұрын
Liftcran installed some brilliant lifts. Their estate lifts are brilliant. They are a pleasure to work on as well.
@KommaAchtKommaEins Жыл бұрын
Now that's where they sampled the elevator sound for Skyrim from.
@therealvbw6 жыл бұрын
that noise is spectacular tingCLACK!
@LiftyGamez4 жыл бұрын
Ah this Italian brand of lift. There are a couple of installations in my country but most are hydraulic. I haven't been into a motor room for a traction unit, and now I know what it resembles, great video!
@ag63712 жыл бұрын
It's generic from the 1980s hence a mix of brands
@FireController18476 жыл бұрын
Beep boop bing bong this type of video is the reason I'm still subscribed :P
@urgentkestrel79902 жыл бұрын
That sound is music to my ears. 😀🎶🔊🛗
@idl3k_elev6 жыл бұрын
That lift motor reminds me of the motor used in an older lift (Indolift, a local brand which no longer exist) that I saw in my hometown a few years ago. It looks a bit similar like in this video. Semag is an Italian company in case you're wondering.
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
The amount of editing and dedication to your passion is worth more than a like! Why can't KZbin make a love button to love peoples beautiful videos? We really need to chase them up about M&S though :/
@mrmattandmrchay6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michal :) And I recon a few more months - building leases and things like this take years (or many months) before things happen.
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
@@mrmattandmrchay I agree - however, I think that the building may have now changed ownership because a lot of the black stuff that prevents people from seeing inside the store has somehow been scraped off. The shopping centre care more about privacy than M&S I think. Tried all the doors but none open. Got some new photos and the lights are still on. Happy New year in 3 days!!!
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
@@mrmattandmrchay This might not be true, but I think the lift is making these noises because of the amount of use it's had. I'm surprised these lifts are that busy in the first place! These lifts are going to eventually end up being like the lift in M&S - noisy, but rare, and eventually modernised or abandoned. I think these lifts will get abandoned as the car park looks like it should have been demolished by now.
@patricksingh90694 ай бұрын
@@MichalM7:52
@RODALCO2007 Жыл бұрын
Awesome motor sounds.
@mrclucker19696 жыл бұрын
It sounds like an old crane controller from a 1950/60's factory! Can't remember the makes (Street, P&H???)
@jingarjay87546 жыл бұрын
Old Thames valley controller?
@fklabs68136 жыл бұрын
Guessing by the age of this Lift, the Controller is probably made by Thames Valley Controls (TVC), and its the two speed model. It could also be a custom one from Liftcran, but many generic Lift Companies were using TVCs at that time.
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
lol
@ag63712 жыл бұрын
TVC and Lester Controls still do generic controllers
@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL6 жыл бұрын
that growl as the motor starts up reminds me quite a bit of some 1990 OTIS Europa 2000s which are pretty much not maintained nowadays by the shopping centre that owns the car park in which they are located
@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL6 жыл бұрын
@Safety Breaks, Lifts,Skyscraper Sim & More :)
@Paul-mv1sj6 жыл бұрын
That motor sounds awesome going down but it sounds angry and clunky going up!
@ag63712 жыл бұрын
It actually growls longer when going down
@marksmith-ew7ir6 жыл бұрын
We have otis gen 2 lifts in our building which has power and cable belts in one our building been open for four years and the flat cables have been replaced all ready, with a new motor like you say old is better and parts where made to last blogger not five minutes lol 😁
@AlessandroCussino3 ай бұрын
7:46 That's an italian electric motor. Why i know that ? Because the label says : "Motore asincrono trifase", that in english means = three-phase asynchronous motor. P.S. Yes i'm italian, cheers from italy 👋😉
@mrmattandmrchay3 ай бұрын
Ah, interesting! Thank for the comment!
@dusterdude2386 жыл бұрын
9:30 the motor sounds as tho its going " ARRRRR! I'm so knackered, and they just keep making we work anyway!" HA HA BTW, what do the white stripes on the Shieve cables indicate? floors? or some other type of reference points?
@max_dottie5 жыл бұрын
DUSTERDUDE238 ewwwww
@jani1405 жыл бұрын
These white stripes indicate floor level if matching the red stripes, shown at 11:10. This helps leveling when manually winding during rescue operation.
@ZLDSmogless5 жыл бұрын
These motors would be good for the broadmoor sirens!
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
Indeed! We might be able to get hold of these motors, as these liftcrans are sadly being replaced in the new year.
@ZLDSmogless5 жыл бұрын
@@MichalM 🙄
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
@@ZLDSmogless lol!
@windekind276 жыл бұрын
Some early digital control with direct start power relays... and my guess as why the motor is so wonky (angry), it seems to be running on only two phases.
@imaginox96 жыл бұрын
Well, your "quality and not quantity" standard is the reason why your videos hardly get any dislike but have a lot of likes ! That's interesting how the lift has so much difficulty starting when going down, probably due to wear and tear in bad condition. I hope you had a merry Christmas and I wish you a happy new year !
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
Visited these lifts a month ago. Both switched off and not working. Exactly the same 3 weeks later :( Such a shame!
@jamberrytastic4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like bearings are going out of the motor
@skylined55343 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like a phasing issue on the three phase or a sickly 'hot start' capacitor.
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
Also 8:38 Have they nicked that piece of metal from the shopping centre or Something???!!!
@mrmattandmrchay6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I did wonder that also!
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
@@mrmattandmrchay Thinking about it, that piece of metal may actually be from the shopping centre. I went to Wellington House as it was open for the christmas celebrations in slough town centre, got there, one lift decomissioned and two lifts working. There is a very small chance that they confused the name of the building (as it is attached to the shopping centre) and the motor or motor mount may be from the decommisioned lift. The lifts themselves have a chequered past. Otis nameplate at the bottom by the doors, button panel from lift specialists ltd, maintained by thyssenkrupp and the centre have put a sign saying kone!!! No interest to the channel though:/
@lbsiuk6 жыл бұрын
Also, relay with VF (it does exist)?
@rpg42646 жыл бұрын
I love old elevators
@sketchymoof6 жыл бұрын
The lift should eat a Snickers.
@Kingsizebooster Жыл бұрын
Yeah its not itself without snickers
@elonmask505 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thanks for sharing
@ajs21206 жыл бұрын
I went to an old car park today that is about to be converted to a premier inn, with some very old skool lifts present. Pushed the button, button lights up but lift does not come. Sadly the motor room had one of the overhead entrance hatches with a sturdy padlock tightly shut. Another 'death of a lift'.
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
Same with these - according to the council, these lifts are being replaced in November 2019, because they haven't worked since this video was published, and an "independent investigation found that they are too costly to maintain". I would hazard a guess that they are going to be modernised by Kone or a generic company.
@christopher-20006 жыл бұрын
awesome video
@keicoscomedy2 жыл бұрын
The loudest elevator I’ve ever heard
@ArgaTheRexouium6 жыл бұрын
a+ for editing
@lbsiuk6 жыл бұрын
this is gonna be good
@mrmattandmrchay6 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Leon...couldn't find your email!
@lbsiuk6 жыл бұрын
Don't worry... I have now made the 1930s Keighley lift public, and if you hurry, you might be 1st commenter!
@julianpiper2404 жыл бұрын
Star and delta contractors could have been inadvertently reversed during modernisation? I was on a job installing a new supply cable to a lift panel where the star and delta contractors were incorrectly labelled, and operated in the reverse sequence (start in delta, run in star) which reduces the torque to 1/3 of the delta torque
@julianpiper2404 жыл бұрын
I may have mentioned this before also, but open delta configuration will result in a power 66.7% of the rated power output. Could be an open winding or burned winding etc.
@dykodesigns6 жыл бұрын
Definitly hear some relays but only a few. My guess it’s some early solid state controller. The lifts are in not so good condition, I see some oil leaks on the ground below the right lift’s motor. It also sounds like the motors need a revision, something sound really worn on them, like the bushes of an old vacuum cleaner motor or perhaps some worn out bearings. I wonder how well these lifts are looked after. Owner saving some money here?
@uzaiyaro6 жыл бұрын
dykodesigns2yt probably contractors you’re hearing. Even with brand new lifts, there will be some relays and contractors to control the power supplies. They won’t be relay logic, but there will be some of the stuff in there to do certain things, mainly power supply switching.
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
Its run by the council so I'm not surprised - they've been broken for at least a month now!
@gabrielcoyle90494 жыл бұрын
Are they going to be left original ?
@MichalM4 жыл бұрын
They have been switched off and broken since this video, both of them. They're both going to be replaced unfortunately. It's taking forever so if you want to see them derelict, now is your chance!
@MichalM4 жыл бұрын
Now being modernised.
@aronslegogbcs10576 жыл бұрын
im thinking relay control based on the sounds im hearing
@kimchi_dudez4 жыл бұрын
Up: 8:53 10:18 Down: 9:40 11:04
@alessandrovisconi10794 жыл бұрын
The engine sound reminds me of old rheostatic Italian locomotives startup
@dieseldragon67562 ай бұрын
The motor (And possibly the control gear, if not the lift overall) come from an Italian company, so it's possible they had/recycled some engineering knowhow from Fiat Ferroviaria... 😉
@Roblilley9996 жыл бұрын
Recognise this car park very well, the lifts are always breaking in this car park
@blueauraretriever6 жыл бұрын
The lifts are a piece of crap
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
Its run by the council so that explains why. They have been broken for at least a month now :(
@jonjohnson12596 жыл бұрын
Happy New year to you and your family. That motor sounds as though it struggling to move the lift do you think maybe they need to install a beefier motor?
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
They do - but keep one lift original. Lock it off with a Dewhurst keyswitch that lift enthusiasts can use. Replace the motor of the other lift with a newer one.
@LevelCrossingFan923 жыл бұрын
Johnson is my last name too
@willlovesbearzd8106 жыл бұрын
That motor sounds like it needs new bearings
@qeelevators29604 жыл бұрын
**grind grind**
@xxexplosivexxxxexplosivexx85124 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those ball-clicking sounds:/
@SummerADDE_Elevators6 жыл бұрын
I dont know brittish generics, but I guess, Telematique controllers. Btw. You need a Rode videomic to upgrade sound quality. Look at my videos, most of them have rode sound and it is just amazing! I have used rodemic since 2014.
@TheMightyAtomNL4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of lifts with attitude and "personality", have you ever seen the Dutch 1983 horror movie "De Lift" (The Lift)? It's about an elevator system in an office building that seems to have gotten a mind of its own and starts killing off its passengers! So an elevator mechanic is send in to inspect the elevator but nothing out of the ordinary can be found. Then, a security guard gets his head decapitated... Yes, it's ridiculous but its one of the better Dutch horror movies out there and is considered a classic. There's also an American 2001 remake called "Down" and its even more ridiculous and over the top than the Dutch version however the movie didn't do very well. I say go watch it you're curious but I recommend watching the Dutch version first. The movie "De Lift" can be watched on KZbin here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXmuaYeOeb-Gi5I without English subtitles, or here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXnCZmWwaLF2h6M with English subtitles but the audio seems to be muted for one minute at the beginning.
@mrmattandmrchay4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I know it very well. Ridiculous story, but I did like the film! (circuit boards coming to life and growing in places, with flashing lights on them, then the car ropes came to life at the end and hung that person!!) I received an email from someone a long time ago which said where the building was that they used for filming.
@TheMightyAtomNL4 жыл бұрын
@@mrmattandmrchay Glad to hear you liked it. Yes I know the building very well, you can see it right here in Google streetview: www.google.nl/maps/@52.3211569,4.8782336,3a,75y,56.43h,111.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGbLXf5m8K0zbATowQPDdyg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
@WasherkiddoYT6 күн бұрын
12 years ago at least i heard the other lift motor
@aprilkolwey47796 жыл бұрын
Somehow I get the feeling the controller is going to be some cheap (relatively speaking) PLC-based thing. These really don't look like the sorts of things that would have a nice controller on them.
@lbsiuk6 жыл бұрын
I'll try not to ruin it for you, but it is really good.
@mrmattandmrchay6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! BTW, got your message will reply tomorrow :)
@lbsiuk6 жыл бұрын
I will give you the link early :D
@erikgstewart5 жыл бұрын
One of two lifts at work broke down so often it got its own Facebook page and support group. It is a1994 Schindler and was modernised a couple of years ago and finally the problems stopped. Recently it has started braking down again though. Always the same right hand lift.
@gabrielcoyle90495 жыл бұрын
If I’m correct is that lift a generic
@LaPatateDouce4 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt :) Can you list me the differents music used in this video? Thanks ;)
@Avidiy Жыл бұрын
It spins slower when going down as well!
@dieseldragon67562 ай бұрын
Out of the two components, the counterweight is heavier than the car...So the lift will do less work when the _counterweight_ is descending, unless the total of car+load exceeds the gross weight of the counterweight. 😇
@Avidiy2 ай бұрын
@@dieseldragon6756 thank you for explaining this. I do appreciate this but I also mrmattandmrchay explained it before too, so thank you
@kimchi_dudez4 жыл бұрын
I kind of want to see what happens when it struggles even more...
@MichalM4 жыл бұрын
You won't be able to, both of them have been switched off and broken since this video :/
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
Am I disqualified from this competition?
@mrmattandmrchay6 жыл бұрын
yes! lol!
@Egress.6 жыл бұрын
I think it’s going to be some sort of PLC judging by the displays and the lack of relay logic clicks.
@procksomaterman6 жыл бұрын
It might be older Lester controllers. I don't hear many relays, and these don't seem to be made by a competent enough company to make their own controllers.
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
Lester? Nope
@procksomaterman6 жыл бұрын
@@MichalM I'm not very sure, just a very blind guess. Never heard of LiftCran before either, I couldn't find another instance of an installation on you tube. But I defiantly believe these are third party controllers, I doubt such a unheard of company would make their own logic.
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
@@procksomaterman I haven't heard of a Liftcran before either! They use a generic logic.
@procksomaterman4 жыл бұрын
@@MichalM They are Thames Valley, It's all the same crap
@38911bytefree6 жыл бұрын
Thames Valley Lift.
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
When is Mr Chay going to be in a video?
@mrmattandmrchay6 жыл бұрын
When I edit our holiday video we've just come back from :)
@MichalM6 жыл бұрын
@@mrmattandmrchay Fantastic! Can't wait!
@gabrielcoyle90495 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they don’t get replaced or modernised
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
According to the council, they are being replaced in November 2019, because they haven't worked since this video was published, and an "independent investigation found that they are too costly to maintain". I would hazard a guess that they are going to be modernised by Kone or a generic company.
@FrostyGaming83945 жыл бұрын
@@MichalM What day in november
@gabrielcoyle90495 жыл бұрын
Are the motors bull motors
@MichalM4 жыл бұрын
@@FrostyGaming8394 Typical council, they still haven't been replaced.
@user2C474 жыл бұрын
The gearbox seemed to be almost broken.
@rods3332 жыл бұрын
Y'all see how close the door to his foot
@yuiopYT6 жыл бұрын
Well replacing these lifts may take lots of money
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
Visited these lifts a month ago. Both switched off and not working. Exactly the same 3 weeks later :( Such a shame! They might be replaced soon :(
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
According to the council, they are being replaced in November 2019, because they haven't worked since this video was published, and an "independent investigation found that they are too costly to maintain". I would hazard a guess that they are going to be modernised by Kone or a generic company.
@Noniksleft5 жыл бұрын
I think I just hit rock bottom (aka (for lift fans) the basement) time to change my life! WTF youtube, stop trying to murder my soul
@user2C474 жыл бұрын
AKA the pit.
@sp5sjt5 жыл бұрын
Nie widziałem jeszcze chyba na żadnym filmie, żeby maszyna tak bardzo nie miała siły uciągnąć windy. Silnik taki słaby, czy jakieś inne opory? Zdecydowanie problem do poprawy. ...yy... tak, wiem, że przeciwwaga jest tak dobierana, aby zrównoważyć połowę obciążenia nominalnego. I tyle wystarczy, żeby maszyna tak długo się zbierała? Mniejsze wciągarki przy większych masach chodzą zdecydowanie żwawiej... Jestem ciekaw, ile przez to energii poszło na straty w grzanie uzwojeń?
@ag63712 жыл бұрын
Even hydraulic elevators do growl
@cyan-ecvacnium2 жыл бұрын
Why is is liftcran!?
@simeonayanbadejo22873 жыл бұрын
OK GUYS CHAT.
@BeezyKing993 жыл бұрын
uploaded on my birthday, heh.
@uzaiyaro6 жыл бұрын
That motor sounds about ready to seize. I would’ve thought that with how expensive parking is, they could afford to maintain their infrastructure...
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
This place is quite cheap actually - that's why both lifts have been switched off for at least a month now!
@w.mk11555 жыл бұрын
no the poor lift ;(
@mrmattandmrchay5 жыл бұрын
And... they are about to be modernised :(
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
Haven't been replaced yet, but they are still out of order!
@MichalM4 жыл бұрын
Being modernised now.
@flipper7513 жыл бұрын
Relay logic
@GreenFlexGaming6 жыл бұрын
could you turn the camera 180 degrees?
@MichalM5 жыл бұрын
He shows his face you know
@asetatlikalem Жыл бұрын
İ think TVC
@ElevatorsClips3 жыл бұрын
Scusa ma cme mai sul mitore c'è scritto motore asincrono trifase in italiano?!?! 😐
@HardDriveGuruOfficial6 жыл бұрын
Are these the same lifts you filmed in this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWfMmJSioLJ8mpo - or are they just similar?
@mrmattandmrchay6 жыл бұрын
It's the same place. Damn, wish I'd looked at this video one more time, would have included that nice bell and lantern with the hole in the middle!
@samuellourenco1050Ай бұрын
The motor is too weak for that lift.
@Clement-xy9iv6 жыл бұрын
I don't ear any or almost any relay click. --> It's not a relay logic This lift is from the 80's, so or it's a chip logic, or it's a computer logic. As this lift is featured on this chanel, it's not one of theese boring chip logic. *Conclusion : It's a computer logic.*
@ag63712 жыл бұрын
9:41 11:05 *Grr*
@vancouverelevators_transit4 жыл бұрын
It was modernized :(
@MichalM4 жыл бұрын
Yes they were modernised by Jackson.
@Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials Жыл бұрын
made in italy
@WasherkiddoYT6 күн бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭 thay got moderised into a horse sh generic lifts
@netgamesofficial6 жыл бұрын
Nice video mr mat this reminds me of the lift I found its really spooky and it's doesn't run properly here is the video link m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6PLYZmepbympJI the first lift I record is fine and runs normal but the second Lift runs so bad when it goes up and the lights make it spookey they's are Evans modded by generic normally I hate generics but they are so spookey and I can't explain the feeling on camera
@netgamesofficial6 жыл бұрын
They's are most likely mrl lifts since I couldn't find the motor room