GRUBBY vs HAPPY | Winners Final - Season 2 W3 Champions Tournament

[@FollowGrubby]

We've managed to defeat both Blade and Vortix in this Season 2 WC3 Champions Tournament. Now it's time to face a legendary opponent in this winner's Final... Happy!

[@davidlee2229]

Took us to edge of universe on ur spaceship. Onto another metaphor

[@alexanderwim3139]

It's just a game but... @FollowGrubby you should've been broke him via a knee: Happy always uses the same tactic, the same heroes. It's something wrong with balance if a known tactic can't be destroyed.

[@dingiding2614]

It's funny you say Happy does same strategy every time when he actually changed these games, without destroyers x)

[@DivineAtheistWannabe]

@@alexanderwim3139 no need to whine. As I remember, orc players used to use pretty much the same strategy for every matchup for quite a long time when Grubby was pro gamer. And Undeads were severely underpowered against orc.

[@Christoff070]

Hey Mr Grubber, congrats on making it to the finals and it was a treat to watch you and Happy fight and some insane micro and kiting. I hope this increase the exposure of wc3 to all ages of gamers. Younger gamers need to appreciate that newer game isn't always better

[@Artonox]

grubby when he is silent... I can feel the tension.

[@jamrollz]

Rebrand to Angry

[@derderdo3167]

Such a treat (And a bit of nostalgia) to see Grubby compete! Love him exhaling and rolling out his shoulders at the start

[@mardini]

2nd game late burrow research is probably cuz u had crystal ball early game. He probably research burrow when he realize u sold it. Happy does so many little things perfectly it's insane.

[@nikola4107]

Am so happy to see you back on pro scene! Keep it up mate!

[@JoshiIsAYoshi]

Deep breath Grubby... Well done getting this far, and thank you for the great games

[@KingJarlaxle]

Thanks for sharing this Grubby. love your replays and I’ll always root for you!

[@teyhuck]

this is all worth it just to see that fancy burrow trick in the beginning

[@themasterress]

finally managed to catch up to watch this and i gotta say grubby played extremely well...he was on pair in terms of general strategy, build orders and creep routes and maybe even ahead you can tell a lot of hard work, thinking and planning has been done by grubby those big fights were the key in the end, dont think any items would have changed the outcome

[@firewall_ru]

Grubster vs Emperor, this is a matchup to hype for

[@chicholinoflow]

amazing material to rewatch again and again!! great blows back and forth, so close BlueSuN

[@alesprochazka5781]

19:20 - luv that pro gaming biohacking haha

[@rr-yes]

You can see in the thumb that happy was only Kevin from home alone, something happened for him to turn into the russian arthas

[@ruidasilvamartins]

Congratulations for to be so far Grubby ! You play so well !

[@allenliu107]

Well played, Grubby! Proud of you!!

[@Mikey19846]

win or lose to me you are always the best!

[@bladecup]

Grubby face was priceless every time when he killed illu of abo;)

[@g.c.s.3720]

At minute... ?

[@bladecup]

@@g.c.s.3720 Watch whole match,it will be funny for you:)

[@ranjandas2636]

U tried thats what matters.. no worries.. it was just a bad day at office. Form is temporary but the clas is permanent. Cheers again.

[@DezZzO_YT]

Happy punished the expands two games in a row so hard... Woah.

[@生死郎月食]

He got a little greedy on the first game and cost him a lot specially when he didn't know where Happy's army.

[@alsinbad3772]

老兄语法有错误...

[@2020-q1p]

Good effort. Hard to beat the GOAT.

[@ianrust3785]

His play is just so refined.

[@oresthopiak8609]

Can someone explain me what is the reason to increase APM in the start by pressing the same keybinds, while not doing any actual actions? It looks a bit obsolete to me, so what is the reason for that?

[@00PUSH00]

He says he does it by habit, I would assume it also generally keeps your fingers loose and moving quickly so that you when the actual need for APM increase is needed, your fingers are ready

[@dond2807]

Happy is just unstoppable

[@gobzanuff5078]

wow... its like 700 years ago i played this game... what a sudden recommendation...

[@noxiansummoner1730]

This is so frustrating to see how kodos couldnt feast on spiders every damn time. Happy was controlling them too well.

[@TheTriangle444]

Damn right Happy was microing like a goddamn manager

[@noxiansummoner1730]

Yeah I remember playing myself as orcs a lot years ago and I just could press feast as every one. Normally never could react on those hippos running to their units. They were too focused on heroes or pressing active abilities on regular untis.

[@ccnbutter]

Cheering for you Grubby!! You're the best!

[@mir3877]

Grubby played the second game brilliantly.

[@Zervive]

Such a good game too watch! Gg

[@Mrschickert]

I find, you kind of played with too much respect against happy. I love your orcplaystyle, but against another Player, you play more aggressiv.

[@peterbrad9727]

Maybe the opposite. He was too aggressive. He looses his calmness. His FS being killed in the first game is a big big mistake. Happy’s army was almost destroyed.

[@peterbrad9727]

Mrschickert if you mean mean mentally and strategically. I say yes.

[@Mrschickert]

Yes, i think so. That ease is missing.

[@Christoff070]

@@peterbrad9727 I wouldn't say it was almost destroyed. And even with just heroes the ud player is formidable if they are deece level and lot of Mana.

[@МаксимВасильев-у5м]

Нельзя так запросто с помощью hh перестрелять fin при таком мощном лечении у UN. Grunt+ Wyv+ spiritW+ Kodo.

[@Demosthenes84]

I wish this game was more popular now adays

[@sentilopis]

Happy’s win on the 2nd game was sort of insane.

[@Karim-ik5ij]

Happy looks so innocent.

[@mir3877]

It is good that grubby realised kodo never works. He should use the gold wisely for some other purpose instead of making a useless kodo or two.

[@NokturnalMTG]

I loved watching these guys in the SC2 days

[@Veslanjejezivot]

wtf lol

[@dvd100cias]

What once was a fire still has embers. Really nice to see him playing

[@theyeticlutch3486]

Why not get casters? Like bloodlust

[@James-e4p2o]

lol Grubby playing super hard, once the opponent says "hf" you can see it in grubby's face

[@boskodivljak7594]

That guy is beast.

[@TheDrakmannen]

GG Interesting games for sure!

[@attention_shopping]

yeah luck isn't one dimensional -- it's the delta, the difference between you and your opponent's luck. if both players are lucky or unlucky it's normal, it's absurd when one is unlucky and one is lucky.

[@Zucth]

look like Happy is a god player now...

[@James-e4p2o]

odd how he doesnt kill Happy's aco in the second game

[@sebasmejia4844]

Great fight, with the best

[@aR3mYs]

anti-spoil screen really smart thing

[@alexanderwim3139]

It's just a game but... @FollowGrubby you should've been broke him via a knee: Happy always uses the same tactic, the same heroes. It's something wrong with balance if a known tactic can't be destroyed.

[@Vincent44483]

yes, a same tactis actually have been destroyed by fly,lyn or even 120 orc, because they know him well n outmicro him. but same tactis being practise over thousands times n maintain high winning rate means its quite stable n scary as well

[@jeangoffin6110]

@@Vincent44483 destroyed in which tournament in the last two years ?

[@miqueasledesmaamos2160]

@@jeangoffin6110 Happy lost against Lyn 9 mounth ago and more recent vs 120orc

[@Vincent44483]

@@jeangoffin6110 HSL 5months ago destroyed by 120 n fly orc, lyn orc. wgl last year by fly,

[@jeangoffin6110]

@@Vincent44483 Yes but this is so rare, look at the stats. I definitely think Orcs should be buffed in any way

[@JohnTheYetiBeast]

Is this reforged?

[@eduardoydo]

GG Grubby love to see you on championships again. Can anyone explain me why Grubby doesn't try to play vs UD without making HHs? They seem to become very ineffective once Lich reaches lvl 3...

[@perotal]

his best performance vs Happy was with the hh build during their showmatch a few weeks ago.

[@eduardoydo]

@@perotal Yeah I saw it too, but the feeling I have is that Happy adjusted his strategy and made Grubby's HH strategy much less effective. I think you can play HHs as some alternate to the cookie cutter, but imo you have a pretty tight window to wrap the game up, otherwise HHs just become food to undead heros.

[@FabulousJejmaze]

Damn Grubby looks so intense in the thumbnail whereas Happy looks like a failed clone of the Home Alone kid

[@chunyulu8444]

Why recently I seldom saw grubby kills the heroes by circle them

[@michealkhatar6370]

Now I see why hes god how he move all fiend at same time difrent dr wow

[@quiksilver87]

Happy is just next level. Sickest micro

[@user-jw3dz9iy8i]

You should have made blood lusted taurens.

[@colgema007]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏Ty for share!!

[@Falorik]

Healing done by those statues is immensely. Game was not even close. Specially cause UD can fight with its heroes alone and do well. But that wasnt even needed.

[@MassEveNova]

Little scouting in both games, which is uncharacteristic of you, hurt your chances along with a bit detached sense of micromanagement of your units especially in the second game.

[@attention_shopping]

do rushes not work on pros? sc2 still has cheese

[@weplaygaming5066]

Its usually obvious when you're getting rushed. These guys don't fall for such easy tactics

[@nickk3403]

UD is too overpowered that simple. Mass fiends with stats 1-2 destroyer with coil/nova nuke automatic win. Also I think melee and range needs to be revisited. Range kills melee easy in war3

[@bestway6032]

ud is not op. a lot of pro players can win against happy. grubby just have to play better.

[@Igorsov]

Nick K 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@nickk3403]

Brazoncius Roxfort I have not seen anyone in the last year get 3-4 melee. It is all the same for each race mass range and something else

[@SaveMeXenu]

@@bestway6032 UD is OP. Infi, the current world champ, specifically said Undead is by far the strongest race.

[@bestway6032]

@@SaveMeXenu if infi said it must be true. moon is the strongest ne player and he can beat any kind of player who play ud. your just mad because your a fan of grubby and he lose. grubby not really good anymore that the fact

[@davidsaborido6585]

Don't worry grubby

[@LuckerW3]

isnt this the semifinal?

[@nathanaelbishop8489]

they have a losers bracket so the semi-final is the winners final.

[@beowolf4572]

Undead OP? Even Moon said he struggles against the undead the most.

[@loganfletcher184]

Was he doing a try not to talk challenge lol

[@Genie3292]

His micro is better. Hes units are never not attacking

[@leonun]

12:00

[@Artes_659]

Is this a online Tournament ? Or offline ? What happens when the Internet is dead?

[@acheronsal3281]

when is reforge coming out , i want to see the new/modern graphics LMFAO. RIP .

[@SAULGOODMAN478]

BRUH ITS ALREADY OUT

[@abdelmalekdjellouadji2976]

Orc is the easiest match-up for happy, if you played out-race you could win

[@royalgrandgosu8430]

Thx.

[@dmitriytimofeev5980]

Великолепно отыграл.... Продолжай свой профессиональный путь дальше и мы увидим тебя снова как великого 4K.Grubby.

[@warcraft3ph98]

Grubby Vs Sky Rivals 2020 Grubby Vs Happy Rivals Now. The Era is Not End.... Grubby Make Find Tactics to Defeat Happy... Happy Is Very Strong Undead Player.

[@jelenajelenic4861]

Grybby pls get Dark Ranger as 3ird hero u need tpo cut his speel abbilities then u can kill the hero...and u lost so much time going around insteed of creeping like him...

[@tim.e.l]

Damn have an expo and he still roll over. uD Op

[@bestway6032]

ud not op happy just a pro player

[@hotline7797]

Happy is oP

[@SaveMeXenu]

@@bestway6032 Well Undead actually is OP and Happy is the best Undead, they just aren't so glaringly broken against Orc.

[@bestway6032]

@@SaveMeXenu dont try to have an excuse because you like grubby. a lot of pro players beat happy like moon and he play ne. hitman play orc sometimes and he never lose a match so its not because ud is op its because grubby is not the player he was. he lose often and hitman play orc too and never lose.

[@Tolbby]

JOOOO JOOOOO!!!!! (Game 1)

[@tynao2029]

UD needs nerf then you won't see Happy anymore massing 1 unit and focus fire simple playstyle

[@Christoff070]

Lol if you think Happy has a simple playstyle then you need to play and watch more warcraft.

[@maltemeyer7526]

There are alot of good UD players around and you can see that this race is slightly OP, but when u take happy's winrates in comparison and watch him playing, there is nothing "simple" about his playstyle...

[@tynao2029]

@@maltemeyer7526 what you mean, 1 race 1 unit for every race/strat

[@bestway6032]

@@tynao2029 ud not op grubby just have to play better

[@maltemeyer7526]

@@tynao2029 so by 1 race, you mean that happy wasnt in the top 10 as NE last season? With like 90-22 stats? I wonder what you even know...

[@bestway6032]

congrats to happy who won the tournament. happy is too strong as we can see. grubby have to play more tournaments if he want to be good as happy. grubby said he had bad items in the second match but even if grubby had the best items ever he had no chance vs the macro of happy. grubby always have an excuse why he lose he cant said he lose because happy better than him...

[@SaveMeXenu]

ToD is that you?

[@perotal]

@@SaveMeXenu don't be mad at facts bro

[@bestway6032]

@@SaveMeXenu yeah dont be mad at facts. you have to accept grubby not so good and its not because ud is op

[@robertcuicapusa468]

Grubby Las bestias Kodo cuesta mucho recursos. Y son debiles porque no tienen armadura. Y sigues inisitiendo en ellos. Preferible Sacar Chamanes y Tauren. Asi mayormente gano a muertos

[@R3DTHR3AT]

Great undead

[@Kendosable]

I abandoned blizzard after the reforged fiasco

[@teslation]

its not ur fault its not any orcs fault.. blizzard has abandoned this game 16 years ago and nothing has changed to this UD meta... an orc with 1 expansion and with IQ180+ and still loses to ud. no wonder why many orcs left this game

[@marcd1498]

Go check race win rate on wc3 champions and you'll see that orc win more often in ud VS orc 😉 BTW games with more then 200 mmr difference between players are not counted so its good stats👌. You can't say orc is weak VS ud while orc is best ud counter LOL. It feels like you never played a 1v1.

[@mrclown268]

Yes thats why undead won so many tournaments in those 16 years. Total of one WCG. Check how many orcs won. And check who was always but once, best ranked UD player. Once someone asked Grubby what to do against Orcs and UD and Grubby laughed and said: lose. Ha ha ha.

[@НикитаШелков-х7с]

Безысходность какая то!

[@CydTwo]

Ohhh Yeah

[@A_D_I_KGOO]

So nice game 👍

[@raymondabrenica8471]

Been so long since I have watched WC3 game. But Orc without BM is something I thought I'd never see.

[@Mene0]

Happy is a beast

[@milosorevic927]

For the algo xd

[@jeangoffin6110]

In the second game I did not understand what was the purpose to stuck two units in the upper left part of the map. May be speed scroll should be used only to run away or for kodos to eat and run instead of being still. In last bo5 Grubby was better. I think blade is better against Happy, FS is so fragile against DK + Lich

[@PastelitoBombon]

haven't watched, but know grubby has no chances against the russian

[@JeremyToot]

Damnn good game very tough opponent indeed

[@VladimirMotchoulski]

Decent streamer. Lacks the talent, skill set, and head space required to compete with professionals. C+

[@neodoodle3334]

rad dude!

[@kleomenis456]

GGS!

[@nathanaelbishop8489]

nice games

[@romanz2361]

2ez for Emperor. gg Grubby

[@ohananam]

U need learn with kodo. Eat and sent Instantly to Ur Base. U building so expensive Kodo and watch replay U eat and free exp die Kodo all the time. Eat and Run Base never stay in Fight

[@tianlinlu2054]

hex first might be a better hero power.

[@mir3877]

Kodos = target practice

[@Nuticks]

KODO are so slow, expensive, they die fast. At the pro level, I see that opponents deal with them easily (in this game too). What do you think Grubby might cost Blizzard to do any KODO changes?

[@aghadmtl]

Роман М about tree fiddy

[@Gamyr]

God damnit I dont understand why you always let your kodos stay on the battlefield after they have eaten, better get them far away, stay with one for aura. Not worth it loosing so much gold and time just to get an extra shitty attack from them. I dont understand this.

[@Christoff070]

Kodos add a passive aura so if they stay in the backline they can alter a fight. Plus the threat of gobbling units can be used as another weapon. Perhaps their speed could be buffed a little but there is also speed scroll. Also, not all pros can deal with kodos easily. Its the UD race that can melt them easily, though.

[@perotal]

@@Christoff070 They have endurance aura, they don't need a speed buff lol

[@Christoff070]

@@perotal true but they need all the speed they can get

[@ИванЯкунин-с8ж]

Useless kodos, you need to eat faster and escape. Try to dispell frost armor

[@Chtchav]

At this level it comes to game balance. Happy's skills into orcs against Grubby's skills into Ud, Grubby would win

[@Igorsov]

Chtchav 🤦‍♂️ It has nothing to do with balance. Many mistakes were done. Grubby simple needs more practice. Then it will be all about luck on drops. I would also suggest orcs to always make the deadly combo BM + SH against players like Happy.

[@Chtchav]

@@Igorsov I think you're wrong. If we make 2 AI play against each other for a long time, at some point, one will be revealed to be the strongest. The 2 IA being equals, all comes to balance. It's impossible to make a perfect balanced game. My analysis of the game tells me that Ud is favored

[@Igorsov]

Chtchav I am not wrong, I know that for sure. It’s all about your skill at that particular moment. Plus luck on drops. I was like you once, crying until I saw a player who could achieve something other players couldn’t. This is how life works. Hopefully Grubby him self can explain it to you guys in a separate video. You have to be at a pro level to understand it. UD won WCG only once out of what...10 WCGs? Orc and NE were always favorable. We only have 2 pro orcs who compete at the pro scene. They are Lyn and Focus. Grubby is there too, but he doesn’t practice and doesn’t care much about tournaments these days. He is more semi-pro now. He can always beat a pro player, but it won’t be regularly. If he practice more and play more tournaments, then he will get on top level once again. We also only have 2 good NE players Moon and Lawliet. Btw, Lyn beats Happy often.

[@Chtchav]

@@Igorsov It seems you're emotionaly implied and it's important for you to defend The Emperor

[@Igorsov]

Chtchav Not sure what it has to do with emotions. It for sure has nothing to do with defending Happy. However, It’s true that I only watch Happy’s games. Once you see Happy’s games, it’s hard to watch other guys. Something you don’t get is that Happy’s advantage is that he makes less mistakes than other players do. That’s how he wins. They call him ”the machine” for a reason, you know....Happy is the world’s strongest Undead at this moment. Other 2 players that I really enjoyed watching are Deadman (No longer with us) and Grubby. Korean and Chinese players are great too, but there are so many of them that I prefer to watch them during major tournaments. Moon, Th000, Lyn are legends.

[@Benja95X]

i think in the second game you just needed to stop making trolls, an army with +2+2 grunts and raiders would work better, maybe even SH instead of TC

[@Гавс-кот]

Happy cool)