Grumman F9F Panther - Korean War Carrier Jet Fighter

Grumman Aircraft Engineering produced several successful aircraft during WW2, but it is perhaps best remembered for creating one of the US Navy's first jet-powered carrier-based fighters, the F9F Panther.
The Panther was a single-engine, straight-winged fighter. During the Korean War, it was used extensively by the US Navy and the Marine Corps.
Equipped with four 20 mm cannons and a wide array of air-to-ground weapons, the Grumman F9F Panther successfully delivered quick air support to American units surrounded by enemy forces on the Korean Peninsula.
From 1949 to 1954, the Panther became the workhorse of the US air forces. Besides its close air support effectiveness, the F9F is credited with engaging in the first jet on jet combat and achieving victory by taking down a Soviet MiG 15.
It was a legendary aircraft used by legendary men, such as a young 21-year-old Neil Armstrong, the first man to ever land on the moon.
Fewer than 1500 units were produced, and it was only used by the US and the Argentine Navy. The aircraft would be the foundation of the Grumman F9 Cougar and other American jet fighters of the Cold War.
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[@davidtiemann1296]

This Jet is like a 50s car ,they just have style

[@kafeelahmed6439]

hell tes

[@1badhaircut]

Yes true because the are 1st-gen -- a WW2 appearance - with an extraordinary advance in performance. For the same reason I prefer 1st-gen muscle cars. The early ones still have the previous generation’s boxy style. The Korean War Panther is still similar to a WW2 P-80.

[@DavidGarcia-oi5nt]

Found the boomer

[@paulofurbringer4232]

I think so !!

[@arthas640]

I LOVE early jets, especially those common in the 50s and 60s. Modern jets are of course better in every way, but I just love those long sleek jets with all the rounded edges and reflective unpainted metal

[@henryschmitt7577]

John Glenn had 3 MiG kills flying an f-86. Wally Schirra had 2 mig kills flying an f-84. Buzz Aldrin had 2 Mig kills flying the F-86. They are the only astronauts to have shot down aircraft.

[@joestephan1111]

F-86s with a different designation also flew in the Navy.

[@scootergeorge9576]

@@joestephan1111 - The FJ Fury was quite a bit different than the F-86.

[@joestephan1111]

@@scootergeorge9576 I'm sure there was a lot of development on both planes.

[@scootergeorge9576]

@@joestephan1111 - the FJ-1 had a straight wing. The FJ-4 longer, thinner wings. All used different engines than the J-47 of the F-86. And of course there was arresting gear and catapult attachment points, heavier landing gear for typically rough carrier traps (landings) etc.

[@joestephan1111]

@@scootergeorge9576 Yes, I'm aware of that.

[@josiahricafrente585]

I like the look of the Panther. Every part just kinda seamlessly connects with each other, giving it a graceful, elegant look.

[@schnarre0]

Indeed! The Blue Angels aerobatic team showed they had taste when they adopted it for a time.

[@kurttate9446]

Of all the early straight wing jets I’ve always thought the F9F was the best looking.

[@josiahricafrente585]

@@schnarre0 they sure did!

[@josiahricafrente585]

@@kurttate9446 definitely!

[@jessfrankel5212]

Agreed. As well, Grumman always made their planes rugged looking, from the F4F Wildcat onward. They had a great rep for quality, too.

[@Phoenix-xn3sf]

The Panther/Cougar is simply one of te most eye-pleasing jets ever made. It just looks the part.

[@josephstevens9888]

I loved the jet aircraft of the Korean War; F9F, F-84, F-86... just sleek sexy machines!

[@lizard869]

@@josephstevens9888 the jets of the Korean War and the tomcat are just so beautiful and visually stunning

[@timothylu1349]

they look chubby to me lol

[@Phoenix-xn3sf]

I think you mean thicc. ;-)

[@djl5634]

@@timothylu1349 lol then u have never seen a mig15. Short fat and stubby

[@tucopacifico]

Star of the movie "Bridges at Toko Ri" along with the costar AD-3 Skyraider. Nice.

[@markwheeler202]

That was a great movie. "Where do we get such men? They leave this ship and they do their job. Then they must find this speck lost somewhere on the sea. When they find it they have to land on its pitching deck. Where do we get such men?"

[@Chilly_Billy]

Don't forget "Men of the Fighting Lady." From purely an aviation fan standpoint, it's probably the better movie.

[@markwheeler202]

@@Chilly_Billy I've never heard of that one - will check it out. I saw "Bridges" on TV late 50s/early 60s.

[@chrisstarring2991]

That movie was banned , it was shut down. Mickey Rooney was blacklisted for the movie. Because he was on war bonds for WW2.

[@markwheeler202]

@@chrisstarring2991 Which movie? Link?

[@nelsonphilip4520]

It's amazing that Neil Armstrong not only flew Grumman's 1st operational jet, but he also landed Grumman's 1st operational space ship, the Lunar Module, onto the surface of the Moon! "Tranquility Base here; the Eagle has landed!"

[@braininavatnow9197]

It's amazing to me that anybody believes in humans actually landed on the moon. I guess you're also talk to leprechauns and wait for the tooth fairy.

[@Kez_DXX]

@@braininavatnow9197 Ha, you believe the moon is real.

[@braininavatnow9197]

@@Kez_DXXI can see something....but it's certainly not what they want us to believe it is.....I'm leaning towards the alien podship hypothesis...but a big chunk of green cheese can't be ruled out.

[@franktreppiedi2208]

​@@braininavatnow9197 Whether you believe it or not, you don't have to be a dick about it.

[@braininavatnow9197]

@@franktreppiedi2208 Anyone who would make such a statement as you clearly as some severe issues with trans dimensional analytics. It is obvious that you are blatantly delusional and require immediate and permanent cancelation. Keep in mind that I am in every way Superior to you. I'm going to give you five minutes to retract your comment or I will have to report you to the proper authorities. I speak only one hundred percent pure truth as revealed by absolute science. I am indeed the greatest human being that I know. I will allow you to get down on your knees and beg my forgiveness for your crime against my holiness. Referring to me as a "dick" is a Class 1 capital felonious act of heinous debauchery. May God have mercy on your soul. There is no dark side of the moon..... matter of fact it's all dark.

[@henryschmitt7577]

Neil Armstrong was actually 20 when he was sent to Korea. November 1950. Received his wings week before his 20th Birthday. His Birthday is August 5, 1930.

[@clearcreek69]

He looks like a young Rick Shroeder in his younger days

[@Joshua_N-A]

What's the average age for newly graduated pilots in WW2?

[@clearcreek69]

@@Joshua_N-A Early 20's I think

[@deltavee2]

The Panther was living proof of the old adage "If it looks right, it flies right." A beautiful bird and it could only have been designed and built by Americans. A straight-winged jet, it was a quintessential example of the design ethic and engineering of the late '40s and the '50s. The Sabre picked up where the Panther left off, being another aesthetically beautiful piece of work.

[@timw6596]

I am very proud to say I worked on the TF-9J and the F-14A during my time in the Navy !

[@smith5312]

I love how the German scientist “Migrated” to the US.

[@Patriot20054]

Why??

[@smith5312]

@@Patriot20054 well they could have faced trial or go to the US to eventually work on the NASA program and further weapons development for the US.

[@fr4me.01]

Glad I'm not the only one to think that spin is pretty funny. :P

[@smith5312]

That’s why I highlighted the word “migrated”. They had very little choice.

[@Dr_Reason]

@@smith5312 Some 'migrated' to the USSR.

[@kithill1423]

Another famous person who flew Panther/Cougars was George Roy Hill, Maj. USMC who eventually directed such films such as Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and The Sting. He flew as a night fighter pilot, training Marines at Cherry Point. As his nephew, I got to hear a lot of great (wild and woolly) stories as a kid.

[@joestephan1111]

Boston Baseball Hall of Famer Ted Williams flew them in Korea when he was called up, survived being shot down, returned to his best seasons ever.

[@j.w.matney8390]

He was also John Glenn's wingman when their squadron was flying the Panthers.

[@johnharris6655]

My aunt was a Navy Nurse. When she was at Boston U getting her Masters in Nursing,she lived in the same building as Ted. He once told her he would never eject because it would ruin his knees for baseball.

[@schnarre0]

...Always loved the F9F Panther! A sound, solid design that was also well armed.

[@maureencora1]

Yeah, Four 20mm Cannons on the Nose.

[@motorcop505]

My uncle flew Corsairs with the USMC in WWII and his squadron qualified with F-9F when they were called up for Korea. He preferred the Corsair.

[@sski]

I don't blame him. Awesome plane.

[@glm4914]

Both are good plane

[@nebunezz_r]

Can't blame him really

[@Manco65]

Either way either plane good chance he flew air cover or support for my uncle who served in the USMC during the Korean War.👍

[@Dearborn2213]

well i mean the corsair was far more effective in attacking ground targets which was most of the fighting . was still fast enough to take on early jets too in the right hands. first american jet kill was from one of our prop fighters in korea .

[@kl0wnkiller912]

When I was a kid in the 1960s in Florida there was one of these in the city park. It sat on the ground, stripped out with no landing gear or engines. Us small kids could climb up the exhaust opening all the way through to the nose. I spent a lot of time climbing through that thing. I remember that it did not have wing tip tanks and was natural metal finish with some red color in spots though so I guess it was a early model based on what is said here.

[@markauble3928]

First jet-on-jet fight proved from the beginning: Lose sight, lose the fight.

[@icarus8471]

The first US jet fighter was the Bell P-59 which first flew in 1942 but was underwhelming. However the US then developed the P-80 Shooting Star which was actually deployed in Europe before the end of the war although it flew no combat missions, although two were deployed in Italy to to shoot down German recon jets. The P-80 was a respectable first generation jet fighter until the Sabre replaced it.

[@Khan.WrathOf]

My grandpa flew one during Korea. VMF-311. He actually flew with John and Ted.

[@sski]

Awesome

[@noahholliday9761]

If I could choose the time I was born it would be the 20's so I could have been a part of the greatest period of aviation innovation and potentially the space race later on. A true stick and rudder pilot. Those guys are still my hero's today.

[@ricksheard1093]

"Grumman Most remembered for the Panther...." No mate I think you'll find the Tomcat and Intruder are a tad more famous

[@tashahatzidakis5680]

Northrop Grumman still going strong A Grumman plant was by me , two of my uncles worked for them, before they merged

[@crimfan]

To say nothing of the Wildcat and Hellcat.

[@stillsalty947]

I think thas probably up for debate. And thats pretty much why he included "perhaps" I would say the Wildcat is the most iconic Grumman aircraft, but the Panther is certainly also a great candidate...

[@syfer866]

Not only the Tomcat and Intruder, also the Wildcat and Hellcat too.

[@wildough]

@Justin Freeman Designed by Grumman, largely built by General Motors in Terrytown, NY.

[@wramsey2656]

Thank you for covering the F9 Panther. My dad flew the F9 on his WESPAC tours with VF-111 Sundowners (on his last tour he was the CO). It was a solid aircraft for the mission it was tasked to do. Dad and his squadron among other things were tasked to provide support as covered in your video; moreover, they also attacked railroad locomotives (some with AA guns), bridges, infantry, etc. Korea was quite different than his missions with VF-11 in WWII (which was more aircraft on aircraft and also against ships and airfields). Again thank you as there is not much coverage on these fine aircraft and the squadrons who flew them. Salute ! My dad was Commander John W Ramsey (USN 1941-1963).

[@goinhot]

Grumman made some great cats!

[@thechaozrevenger404]

100% agree, it’s a shame the F11F-1F Super Tiger didn’t make it into service would have been an excellent aircraft.

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

Super cat

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

The seaplanes were good too.

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

@@WALTERBROADDUS I awnt to ride in a chinook rode in a Huey want more.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 Uh... Okay.

[@richardanderson2742]

Historical note. The US did not wait until after the war to develop jet aircraft. The P-80 dates from 1943, well before the US had access to German technology.

[@guidor.4161]

Not to forget the Bell P-59...

[@joeshmoe9978]

@@guidor.4161 👍

[@skaterdave03]

I was going to comment this also, so frustrating that the researcher didn't do a very good job.

[@richardanderson2742]

@@skaterdave03 Even 80 years later people are giving too much credit to German tech. We grossly overestimated their abilities during WWII and grossly overestimated E. Germany during the cold war. They were indeed leaders in basic research, but not so great at application....with rocketry being a really big exception.

[@jimstrict-998]

And the invasion of Poland itself had little bearing on the development of the Me-262, lol.

[@davidhoman3807]

Speaking of the F-86, while stationed in South Korea during 1984-86 in the USAF, I saw a South Korean Air Force F-86 take off from Kwang Ju Korean Air Force Base. I was not very close to the flightline so I did not see what aircraft were parked, therefore it was not until I saw that one in the air that I knew they were still using these. I really felt like I had travelled back in time. I had seen some at air shows, but this was an active duty aircraft, and the feeling was very different.

[@rickee2652]

One note, the original Frank Whittle patent fir the jet engine was lodged in 1932. Ohain's patent was lodged in 35, and he admitted to having studied Whittles patent before developing his own ideas. So while Ohain got there first his design springboarded of Whittle's work.

[@mrh678]

I was looking for this very comment 😁👍

[@jeffsmith2022]

I see the Panther and the P 51 Mustang as works of art as well as fighters...

[@funstuff2006]

'German scientists who migrated to the U.S.' *cough*operationpaperclip

[@drm315]

Yea, "migrated". That's funny!

[@stephenmeier4658]

I'm sure the number of words in this video and the speed at which they are spit out made it impossible for the script to read: "former Nazis who were illegally smuggled into the US".

[@wfp9378]

Yup... it was an exceptional comment.

[@billjamison2877]

Operation Paperclip! When the US, more or less, kidnapped von Braun and his Nazi team to build our aviation, rockets and space craft.

[@thebobs9343]

@@billjamison2877 I don't know... I think Von Braun "surrendered" broken arm and all to the Americans rather than the Soviets. Where would you rather go.....

[@3rdwatch168]

Thank you for including E. Royce Williams amazing action. He should have got the MoH that day.

[@ChineseKiwi]

If you been watching the Dark channels long enough, the voice over guy **has** to know German or Dutch fluently! (Dutch and German are similar and thus why the pronunciation of the Dutch author's name at 9:52 is so smooth.)

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

@@strangelove9608 Narrator hired for propaganda purposes by the DS-D-F-F channel operator.

[@JoeOvercoat]

That one of those is his native language might explain why he reads the script he is given where sometimes it’s kind of funny like with the “starburster”.

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

@@strangelove9608 Intentional mispronounciation and grammatical errors.

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

@@strangelove9608 Manipulation

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

@@strangelove9608 Manipulation

[@Paul-lm5gv]

A beautiful looking airplane! Like someone here said - it looks like a classic 50's car looks - timeless!

[@citabria808]

My Dad served on the USS Boxer CVA 21 during the Korea fiasco, they had a mix of F4U's and Panthers, and he took some 8mm videos of them taking off in the fog. It was pretty cool. He eventually got his wings in the F4U and got 2 Purple Hearts from enemy fire. He never ever talked about those times, I only found out after his death and had access to his discharge papers.

[@arielalvarez5553]

The Argentine NAVY operated the F9F-2B Panther. Argentina bought 28 F9F-2B, and 2 F9F-8T Cougar. Those had operated from 1957 to 1970. Those aircraft did touch and goes at the ARA Independencia aircraft carrier, but those airplanes couldn´t be launched due to the lack of catapults powerful enough for the weight of those aircraft.

[@bensmith7536]

really enjoy these deep dives into various aircraft.

[@marstondavis]

I used to crawl all over and through an F9F at 'Airport Park' (now Kennedy Park) Hayward, Ca. in the late '50's. They had one on static display. I thought it was the coolest thing ever...still do.

[@dand7772]

Slight correction : Sir Frank Whittle filed a patent for a jet engine in 1930 and evidence showed that German scientists copied his design to develop the 262. Great Britain sent Whittle and other engineers to the USA to establish construction of a jet aircraft. This occurred prior to what this post states about the U.S. using German engineers. In April 1941, John Golley, a Whittle biographer, pointed out: “Thus America received a virtually free passport into the field of aero gas turbines, entirely brought about by Whittle’s guts and determination to bring his project to fruition.

[@dennisrankin9508]

One of my favorite Aircraft from Korean War! Even one of my favorite movies; The Bridges at Toko-Ri! Saw rows of them out in the bone yard at Tucson Arizona!

[@harrymadden7622]

My dad was a Chief Petty Officer and was the crew chief on the Panther until his squadron converted over to the Cougar.

[@keeganpenney169]

I just started working towards this in war thunder. Another 500 battles to go bb

[@nikpapado9785]

Lmao see ya next year :D

[@matejdostal9992]

unless they alter the brs, it´s not worth it. sabres and mig 15 bis has same br, even if they have 150 to 200 kph faster max speed

[@jsubrag]

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[@matejdostal9992]

@@jsubrag oh I'm sorry, I didn't know that, my experience is only from rb

[@henryschmitt7577]

One of my favorite Korean War fighters.

[@pgroove163]

i love these fighters

[@henryschmitt7577]

@@pgroove163 always think of the movie Bridges over Toko-Ri! One of my favorite classic war movies!

[@donaldkjenstad1129]

One of my favorite model kits back in the '50s ...

[@clifbradley]

Literally never heard of this plane and I consider myself a warplane nerd. My grandfather's brother was a P-39 Airacobra pilot and then flew the F-86 then the A-1 and A-4 when he left the Air Force and joined the Navy. He wanted to fly the A-10 but he couldn't go back to the Air Force after already being past 20 years in and over 135 combat missions.

[@3ducs]

Frank Whittle was designing jet engines in the 1920s, he patented his design in 1930.

[@MrTaxiRob]

you can tell the P&W J42 was a copy of a Whittle designed Rolls Royce just by looking at it

[@kristov29]

Our British allies not only sent a functional W.1X turbojet across the pond, they later sent Whittle himself! Radar, jet engines and proximity fuses were amazing advances in technology by our allies, which they generously shared with us. In exchange, we sent the Brits massive amount of supplies, but we weren't especially generous with our own technology. Thanks for the gifts, chaps, although I'm sure that Rolls Royce, who have to compete against GE and P&W regret it!

[@jackrussel853]

Shame the RAF ignored him for so long!

[@lampy5490]

"Neil Armstrong, the first man to ever land on the moon." No. He and Buzz Aldrin landed at the same time, but Armstrong was the first to walk on the moon's surface.

[@dkompres6889]

My father flew the F9F Panther and was a squadron leader!

[@guystiles7658]

Your father’s name? My father flew F9F aboard carrier, USS Orisskany. 1952-54. Lt. John L Stiles

[@williamdawkins4062]

Many Inaccuracies in this even though well produced the allies had the P-80 which actually was flying combat missions in Italy before the end of the war

[@cdp200442]

First fighter I got to see up close was a Panther. Just a beautiful aircraft.

[@an_asian_guy]

I actually have a model in the US marines corps airforce of it and I found out that the f9f Panthers look similar to the t2 Buckeyes USN

[@Samfishersplintercellsconvicts]

The Cougar first entered squadron service in November 1952, but was too late to fly combat sorties in Korea. Immediately following the Korean War, large numbers of Cougars entered service with carrier-based Navy fighter squadrons. By the mid-1950s, the Cougar was the most prevalent carrier-based fighter in service. The Cougar was popular with its crew, who admired it for its pleasant handling properties and its strong airframe. However, the Cougar was destined to have a short front-line operational life because of the rapid development of more advanced supersonic carrier-based fighters. In the late 1950s, the Cougar was replaced in the fighter and reconnaissance roles by the Tiger and the Crusader, and Douglas A4D Skyhawks replaced the Cougar in the light attack role. The last F9F-8 and F9F-8B Cougars were phased out in the Pacific and Atlantic Fleets in 1958 and 1959, respectively. The Blue Angels flight demonstration team flew F9F-8s from 1954 to 1957, when they converted to the F11F-1 Tiger.

[@josephstevens9888]

It was thought that the first jet-on-jet aerial combat that resulted in a kill was on November 8, 1950, when a F-80, piloted by LT Russell Brown downed a MIG-15. However, Soviet records show that no MIG's were lost that day. Later it was concluded that the MIG-15 kill that was credited to LT Brown was able to recover and make it back to base. Therefore, the F9F Panther most likely was the champion of the first jet-on-jet combat! I always loved the sleek lines of the Panther. "Bridges at Toko-Ri" is one of my favorite war movies!

[@risinbison1106]

Mig ally was like the Wild West. Gunslingers with just their skill to protect them.

[@MarkSmith-js2pu]

A great movie featuring this jet is The Bridges at Tokyo-Ri with William Holden.

[@scaleworksRC]

I love the sound these old turbojets put out. So loud you could hear it before you see it. These birds, Sabres, F-4s, F-16s, old Lears.. 🥰

[@reecedawson6113]

You should tell the story of how a British Sea Fury shot down a mig 15 during the Korean War

[@equin_xx]

This would be really interesting to hear, as well as the story of the Superfortress that shot down a Sea Fury, resulting in the installation of D-Day stripes.

[@reecedawson6113]

@@equin_xx yeah I never knew that’s were invasion strips came from

[@sski]

The Panther is an underrated killer. It doesn't get the props it deserves.

[@danhayward9186]

The Hawker Hunter was another beauty

[@martentrudeau6948]

Neil Armstrong was a great test pilot, especially flying the X-15.

[@gunner678]

A handsome aircraft. Bridges at toko ri is in tv whilst I'm watching this.

[@jessestrauss]

definitely favorite early jet fighter. it just looks so clean. love these videos keep it up! please do the p38 soon!

[@jamessilberschlag1705]

Clean, elegant lines certainly are a plus, although brutal functionality has its own charm (see the USAF A-10).

[@georgedoolittle9015]

Ted Williams Baseball Legend before and after also known as *"John Glenn's Wingman."* Workhorse of the Korean War as it could be launched as Carrier Based aviation and so despite the Mig-15 being of better design was wholly lacking in ability to launch a surprise attack. An amazing 39 Combat Missions flown by Ted Williams all returned safely with the first combat mission no doubt a near death experience. Would have been interesting after the Korean War how the Vietnam War would have played out had Ted Williams gotten involved as an Advisor as he was most certainly available as such. Definitely the wrong guy to be made to sit on that Bench would be an understatement. Would have been a huge morale boost for the War as well...both in going in and getting out. One of the great What Ifs in US History.

[@fleafrier1]

Really like this channel. This was one of the best videos yet. Always liked the F9 as a kid but never knew about the different variants. Crazy that a guy shot down four mig-15s in a straight wing ground attack aircraft.

[@CaptainPanick]

Kind of reminds me of the Italian designed Aermacchi MB-326 which was also built under license in Australia, Brazil and South Africa. In South Africa the MB-326 was known as the Impala or Imp and I remember seeing them in the skies in the 80's.

[@bobthompson4319]

It looks like the guns pan up. That's a really good idea for dogfights when you cant pull hard enough you can just pan the guns

[@heatherburger1666]

I learned a lot from this video. Thank you.

[@Wideoval73]

As always, a very good and informative video. Thanks

[@smiley3012]

When I was a kid back in the 60s 70s there was one in the park downtown. We climbed all over it and they had an old Train engine.

[@zanenobbs352]

As noted previously, First Lt. Russell J. Brown, flew a USAF Lockheed F-80C Shooting Star in the first known jet-versus-jet combat shooting down a North Korean, Soviet made Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 on 8 November 1950. The first MiG-15 kill by a Panther was on 9 November 1950 by Lieutenant Commander William (Bill) Amen of VF-111 flying an F9F-2B. The F-80 versus MiG-15 apparently did take place. I had along and lengthy argument with an acquaintance in the Russian Air Force (Военно-воздушные силы России) a few years ago. We compared sources and his conclusion was that it "most likely" is true. He didn't trust Soviet records and said the American ones were more reliable. Most likely, we'll never know for sure. C'est la vie.

[@tyronemarcucci8395]

WE were producing the English jet engine in the 1940;s and Bell built our first jet aircraft in 1943.

[@michaelpessin7233]

I really like the narration in DarkDocs* the writers, the video clips, it all comes together to get the material across in a digestible fashion while maintaining a zippy pace for those like myself with extremely short attention spans... Mike Pessin of Watertown MA, USA

[@michaelpessin7233]

- @ctively watching everything these guys put together

[@loganholmberg2295]

funny as even the Panthers were going out the door the Navy was still finding uses fir the propeller driven Skyraiders. There's even a medivac and passenger version that could take several people never mind the strike fighter version.

[@wralford]

Contrary to what is implied in the video, the US did not wait until after WW2 and use German technology to develop its first jet fighter. The Bell P-59 Airacomet first flew in 1942 using an engineered version of a British jet engine. Then, the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star first flew the following year.

[@sisleymichael]

The consistent constraint during aircraft developments and innovations is the engine. There were many aircraft that were designed and built around the same engine. That is a constraint. You can draw up plans for an aircraft, but ultimately, the final design will be affected by the engine size and weight.

[@oceanhome2023]

Many of these were also provided to the Chilean AF in 1962 and 1963 they absolutely loved them !

[@duckyouall3225]

Danm didn't even realized this was posted an hour ago

[@bobbybrown.4257]

Amen. Shout out for this video.

[@canoestothemoon]

I love my Grumman aluminum canoe ;p

[@markleuck]

How many people knew they used to make those

[@bryangrote8781]

They also made Postal Service vans until a few years ago. Still dozens of them in use. Seem to last forever.

[@drinkthekoolaidkids]

I remember aluminum Grumman built canoes when I was a kid in the 70s , as well as I remember they were built like a tank , stable and sturdy as hell .

[@canoestothemoon]

@@drinkthekoolaidkids They are still being made under the Marathon Boat brand with the Grumman name. Not sure if they're the same quality as they used to be tho.

[@drinkthekoolaidkids]

@@canoestothemoon thanks , I might look for one , as far as my old dad is concerned a Grumman's aluminum canoe is the only canoe to have , lol .

[@austenbin4068]

Such a beautiful aircraft. One of my favorites!

[@carlmontney7916]

The Korean war. Forgotten, but not by those who fought there. Great video lots of information in the content. Thanks for posting.

[@navyreviewer]

Forgotten? By who? I think everyone knows about the Korean war.

[@dbeasleyphx]

I love the PIMA AIR MUSEUM pics!

[@Bearkiller72]

01:48 "von Ohain is credited with creating the first jet engine in 1936"? Wasn't Whittle first, about one year earlier? At least that's what I've been told so far. But nevertheless Ohain followed and developed the right idea: the axial flow engine. ^^

[@RustyControls]

Generally the are considered to have co invented it. Even though they worked seperately. However the Uk goverment was slow to fund the project to operationally wise the the germans won that race.

[@bengaarder2972]

A little bit of new information that draws me to this channel.

[@autodidact537]

I guess this guy has never heard of Frank Whittle.

[@jerrymail]

My favorite Korean War aircraft. I remember building the Matchbox kit when i was a kid, i just tought this plane looked fantastic.

[@soupys]

I manage the airport the F9F was built at, Witham Field. We still have some of Grumman’s old hangars on-site that they were built in. Grumman has since changed their name to Triumph and still maintains a presence on the field.

[@treerat7631]

One of the best early jets

[@jamesorozco1243]

This was one is the must beautiful planes ever made

[@htos1av]

One of my earliest and fav airplane models as a kid.

[@lycossurfer8851]

@1:52 So where does Frank Whittle fit in all this??????? You have heard of him, right?

[@TheUltimateBigwink]

Was going to say, pretty sure Whittle had jet engines before the Germans did

[@keptinkaos6384]

Whittle has the 1930 patent for the idea Ohain built the 1st operational engine in 36

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

Both were working at the same time on jets and get credit.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@@TheUltimateBigwink Both deserve credit to jet development.

[@lyndondowling2733]

I have rectified this by my comment and corrected Dark Docs Mistakes.

[@ivu-fe4ik]

One of the best thing we could've ever spent money on✈🇦🇷

[@doctorTF_2]

you mean the german scientists, or building the jet?

[@BennB3n]

@@doctorTF_2 your making me laugh way to hard I’m bleeding in the nose

[@doctorTF_2]

@@BennB3n cap

[@PeteCourtier]

Thanks for uploading this. Excellent stuff.

[@kragf1802]

This video just popped up in my feed. I just lawn darted my rc F9F panther a few hours ago. Lol

[@oddforoddssake3751]

I am more of a fan of the Cougar (purely based on looks), but one cannot deny the Panther’s impressive service record

[@butchp568]

Ted Williams, MLB star, as well as a USMC Naval Aviator and wingman for John Glenn also flew F9F Cougars

[@ManfromJapan12]

your docs are well researched along with archival footage to match .

[@ThorsonWiles]

The U.S. was developing jets before the end of WWII, in Lockheed's case with the L-133, even before it. While the P-59 in 1942 wasn't successful, the P-80, that entered service in 1945 was. (The initial P-80 engines were British and the jet relied heavily on British research.) Niel and Buzz landed on the moon at the same time, Neil was, of course, the first to walk on the moon.

[@johnharris6655]

Korean war pilots were mostly pilots from WW2 who had good Air combat skills and were competent with machine guns.

[@kommandantgalileo]

as another channel will say, certified legend

[@catman4644]

Is it just me or does anyone else think the Panther is the best looking sexiest fighter ever built? I have admired and been fascinated by the lines of the Panther for at least 60 years after seeing one close up, as an already airplane crazy kid I was so impressed with this plane I just never lost my admiration of the thing!

[@gunner678]

Frank Whittle I'm sure would disagree with you about the origin of the first jet engine and jet aircraft. There was also a British jet aircraft before the meteor. The Germans and British developed this technology independently but at the same time. The former focusing on axial flow, the latter on centripetal flow engines.

[@cavemanbum]

13:54 - That's the COAN (Comando de la Aviación Naval Argentina) - the Argentine Navy.

[@jerrygrappi4676]

My Dad flew F9F Panther in Korea. I have pictures of when his aircraft was shot up by A.A.