Grumpy bank holiday flat deck building - Starting the posts & frame

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Gid Joiner

Gid Joiner

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@finnleybrookman3307
@finnleybrookman3307 4 ай бұрын
It’s good to see videos like these. Being an apprentice and eager to do hobbles like myself😝! I’ve been declining customers like these because I work on site and simply haven’t got the experience. Thanks for posting for people to watch and learn👌👍
@michaelrimmer2557
@michaelrimmer2557 5 жыл бұрын
Barbara.......that's standard building industry's language,welcome to the real world. This man's practical knowledge is brilliant. Keep them coming Gid, Many thanks from a Handyman.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael will do 👍 Yep I'm a builder, i was going to cut out the swearing but i decided that this is real not some shiny pre watershed show & some bits were necessary to keep the continuity 😁
@ljones396
@ljones396 4 жыл бұрын
Theres always something quite amusing about someone else having a grumpy, shit day, without sounding too sadistic 😂. I foresee myself having a lot of days like this when I finally get off my arse back to work! 👀😪😂 thanks for the vids Gid!
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lyle, you're welcome 👍 yeah it's nice to see that bad days happen to everyone n not just to you, esp if you can empathise with them, good thing is it's happening to them not you, Hope you don't have too many days like this, 😉 they're shit 👍
@Sharon-jh6xs
@Sharon-jh6xs 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is hilarious if you do it and you cut your fingers of don’t f*****g come crying to me 😂🤣😂🤣I love this guy
@samdub
@samdub 2 жыл бұрын
Love the honest commentary 😎
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 2 жыл бұрын
👍 I struggled to keep it cool on this one 😡🙃😂
@robtorino
@robtorino 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos Gid, I like your style and your humour, loved your comments when you were plunge cutting the posts 😉🤣👌🏻👍🏻
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob 👍 I'm glad you enjoy them. yep a bit of realism there, a bit of grumpy Gid joiner 😉👍
@paulmcgeoch2603
@paulmcgeoch2603 5 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks for the shout out Gid. Sitting smiling at my iPad like a mongoloid lol 😂. Glad ur getting the use out of it buddy. You canny beat a nice shiny pencil ✏️ All the best Gid 👍🏼👍🏼
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
😁 No prob, got use a bit of my editing suite that does alsorts of fancy crap, I did have your name appearing Paramount film style across the screen but obscured the view too much for too long so had to simplify it a bit, Thanks, Yep i'll use it n as expected it has a decent magnet, I've still got 9 i think pencils inc this one but where did they come from?, 👍
@silverfox8801
@silverfox8801 4 жыл бұрын
Mongoloid?? 😂😂😂🤣🤣
@simdog635
@simdog635 5 жыл бұрын
"If you cut your finger off Don't come crying to me " Love it. This is Gid's Effing and Jeffing episode
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
👍👍😂🙊🙊
@finnyboy82
@finnyboy82 3 жыл бұрын
Funny guy lol
@nicpye248
@nicpye248 5 жыл бұрын
I hadn’t noticed that your language was bad until I read the comments. Nuts to ‘em Gid. 🙌🏻
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
😂 like it 👍👍
@unionpacific8330
@unionpacific8330 3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow British i love this
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I think maybe you need to be a Brit to understand the 'grumpy' sentiment of this vid 😣🤣😏👍
@nicholassherwood1107
@nicholassherwood1107 3 жыл бұрын
Top Tip for getting the standing water out of the holes, always carry a big old sponge in your car or van, it’ll suck up all that water in seconds 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@garethheathcote4988
@garethheathcote4988 4 жыл бұрын
I,co just ordered four of those wolf craft 150mm clamps off amazon, they were only £12.50 each, that's cheaper than I,ve seen the Irvin ones for. Nice one m8!
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍👍 I bought two of the ones that open with the second lever, liked them n after a few yrs of abuse decided to buy two more, unfortunately i ordered the wrong ones, i got the ones with just the reg release second trigger, 😢 Which ones did you get ?
@justarandum7959
@justarandum7959 2 жыл бұрын
Who else loves a 'fuck it' quote
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Followed with 'That'll do' 😁
@Reuben1024
@Reuben1024 5 жыл бұрын
Nice solid job - seen so many decks that are so springy. Yep real pain when the postholes' footings aren't fairly flat - the bit you want always the worst bit to put them on.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 Yeah i try to slightly over do decks, or at least build as well as in a house, decks are for party time, lots of people on them, it always surprises me how flimsy some people build them, i think a lot are built by non-qualified builders, (can't think of a better way to describe them), mine are solid,
@Reuben1024
@Reuben1024 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gidjoiner yep seen some awful decks, especially when they were the next great thing back 90's ok of diy at least they had a go and a reason for it not done right but as you say I saw a lot done by ' professional ' so called tradesmen. Those really annoy me. If you not sure - look it up / ask around and find out sizes / spans no-one an expert in all areas builder or not (and real time served tradespeople getting thinner on ground )
@garethheathcote4988
@garethheathcote4988 4 жыл бұрын
You can,t beat wear bits and screwdrivers, they're bloody expensive but worth they're weight in gold. Another nice job for the books gid!
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 Yeah, i like my Wera bits, the smaller ones don't fit in the impact so i'm thankful for this bigger one that does, best magnets around 👍
@pauldavison7105
@pauldavison7105 4 жыл бұрын
So you've created lovely water filled holes for the posts to sit in. Carriage bolts are overkill if you notching the posts.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Blue60
@Blue60 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gid, on a 16”x8” deck how far apart should the holes be for the supports, and on one side there be a lazy spar so should the joists be closer and extra support holes, hope this make sense, cheers for your time.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, hard to say but they are supporting that side of the deck so not too far apart, i put them roughly 1m apart but sometimes that has to change slightly for each job, it' only like a table sunk into the ground but too many posts is better than too few 👍
@benallchurch1052
@benallchurch1052 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video, informative and humorous. I’m a novice with building work. What’s the black pipe running into the centre of the deck which just seems to end with the open end in the soil?
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Ben 😊👍 The black pipe is a ground drainage pipe builders put in front of the extension, the owner moved it when he dug out this area.
@mergrew0110
@mergrew0110 5 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that you are not organised. I had to wait till Wednesday for my "Gid" fix! Pull yourself together man. My weekend, on the other hand, was perfect, couple of cold beers and a snooze in the shade! Just saying, a couple of handfuls of pea shingle in the bottom of the holes, would have levelled it off, he said, from his hammock.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
I replied to this but YT's lost it, Yeah sorry, i finished this job Mon, i should've edited it that night, A bit of gravel yeah it might help but this frame is 8m x 3m ish, balanced level on rocks n bits of flags & i had to keep it under the door cill so not a lot of room to manoeuvre, I shouldn't have had to start trying to pack up 20 legs if the concrete was flat to start with tho & I swore i think a couple of times in this this so you might have gathered i wasn't in the mood for fannying around with bits of gravel.😉🤣
@mergrew0110
@mergrew0110 5 жыл бұрын
Gid Joiner. It's Murphy's third law! No1. If it can go wrong it will. No2. When it goes wrong, it picks the worst possible moment. No3. When 1&2 happen, it will happen to you. O'Saunasey, however, always thought Murphy was an optimist! You just put your head down, grit your teeth and keep going. Unless you wear dentures, then you grind your gums. Good luck!
@james-jq8sk
@james-jq8sk 4 жыл бұрын
Great channel, new subscriber, we often use galvanised post stirrups here in Perth, Australia, set it in concrete, keep the end of the post out of the water, use your method too though, cheers for a great video...
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks James 👍 Normally i would sink the post deep enough, 18"-ish, below 6" the posts don't rot they're hermetically sealed, they rot 6" above n 6" below ground, when the fences here rot there's often a stump left in the ground, as you see in this vid i had problems with the digging 😖🙃😂
@jrooney06
@jrooney06 4 жыл бұрын
Gid Joiner curious to know Gid by sinking them 18 inch deep what’s to stop the posts rotting at 6 inch below ground and snapping. Is this just inevitable? Having to put a few posts in myself soon and would appreciate the info. Cheers
@glenthompson3095
@glenthompson3095 4 жыл бұрын
Great informative video Gid, I will use these tips for my decking project. Top man. 👍🏾
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 Glad you can see past the grumpy language & pick up the details, The posts should be in deeper holes & the concrete at the bottom should be a bit wider & thicker 👍 hope it goes well 👍
@graham6807
@graham6807 3 жыл бұрын
Alright Gid mate. Quick question again. Sorry mate. What size and how deep are you holes that you filled with concrete? Few holes I can't get through as deep as I would like so need to post anchors. Thank you 👍
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, i didn't dig these holes, they didn't go even half as deep as i would've liked, Normally in a garden there's 1ft - 18" or so of black soil then yellowish sandstone or clay type substrate, (here in Yorkshire) i dig down to that, if i only find black soil 18" down i put in a good 1ft round x 4" concrete pad at the bottom, let that dry & sit the post on it to spread the weight & help stop it sinking, if it's hard sandstone in the bottom the concrete isn't necessary, you're better off looking at my FB pics 👍 facebook.com/gid.joiner/photos_albums you can backfill the holes with whatever you want, Imagine it like a table with it's legs pushed into the ground leaving the top 1ft off the ground, it isn't going to go far if you stood on it, & if the legs only went into the ground 6" - 1ft & you back filled them with concrete, that concrete would just be like a doughnut around the post, not doing much, a lot of the strength is in the joints at the top, that's partly why i notch & bolt them,
@graham6807
@graham6807 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gidjoiner thanks very much mate. I'll check it out now. Appreciate the help.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 3 жыл бұрын
& even if a post is concreted in it is only as strong as the soil around it, i try to disturb the surrounding soil as little as poss 👍
@graham6807
@graham6807 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gidjoiner nice one Gid, I've gone down 800mm on the ones I can get down that deep and the soil seems solid. Bit overkill. Mind you, they have just filled up with rain water 🤦🏻 I've got a block under for the posts to sit on. Some holes I can't get deeper then 150-300mm 'ish so bit stuck there hence the anchors. I can't get on you Facebook page as it says the links broken.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 3 жыл бұрын
I've had problems with FB 🤷‍♂️ Yeah digging can be a bit tough, if you've hit stone then that's the end of the dig, i've got those hole diggers that are pointed & the long roughneck bar that makes it easier going through stones or when the grounds a bit hard but not solid bedrock.,
@michaelplays2449
@michaelplays2449 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@frankbennett8877
@frankbennett8877 5 жыл бұрын
Top Job 👍
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank 👍
@simonclayton3390
@simonclayton3390 5 жыл бұрын
Another cracking video...
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon 👍
@kerryjeeves1330
@kerryjeeves1330 5 жыл бұрын
Never fail to make me laugh. Your amazing 👍
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂👍 Thanks Kerry 👍 I didn't censor this one 😏
@Samwise457
@Samwise457 3 жыл бұрын
Watching old videos, waiting for you to come back, looking forward to whats coming up and hope your well
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks, I'm just working a few things out, It's been a bit of an end of era type thing, my van dying, dad died Nov, freezing weather n lockdown, so a couple of mths in these crazy times will be a drop in the ocean 😉 I'll have a van in a little while & be back to work, I have to 🙄 mad world, it's freezing in my house, I don't like winter & i don't make videos just to fulfil an upload quota, I only film my work so with no van sorry i haven't got a lot to share but I have a couple of clients waiting who are starting to ask when! I'll be on with their jobs, & have been offered other bits of jobs, I'll be back in a little bit 👍 I put a post on my FB page if you haven't seen it 👍 Thanks again n i hope you're well too. facebook.com/gid.joiner/posts/3547240428695631?notif_id=1611010950171715&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif
@Samwise457
@Samwise457 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gidjoiner sorry to hear about you dad and the van, i hope you get back on your feet soon and look forward to your new videos! I wish you the best of luck for the future, i aswell as thousands of other people will be waiting here for you when you return! All the best mate keep ya head up! 💪🏻
@adrianandrewrogers
@adrianandrewrogers 4 жыл бұрын
Was wondering instead of notching the post could a 2x4 be screwed onto the post for the beam to sit on
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Yep but every fixing put into the wood creates a poss weakness, the fixings puncture the treatment coating on the surface, I don't think it penetrates too deep, def not all the way to the centre so if those fixings end up below ground? 🤷‍♂️ the piece fixed to the side as you suggest would have to go all the way to the ground otherwise your relying on the shear strength of the screws/bolts. but I've bolted extra pieces on to supply support.
@garethperrin5317
@garethperrin5317 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Gid, did you mention anywhere what size your timbers were?
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes i do mention it, - for 2" joists @ 400mm centres it's ( Span ÷ 20 + 20mm) that will give you the size/depth of joist needed, eg. a 2.6m span ÷ 20 = 130mm + 20mm (the 20mm added is for safety & to reduce bounce in the joist), so to span a distance of 2.6m you need a 150mm joist. To see what distance a piece of timber will span do the calculation backwards, a 150mm joist is, 150mm - 20mm = 130mm, 130mm x 20 = 2600mm . therefore a 150mm joist will span 2.6m,
@garethperrin5317
@garethperrin5317 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gidjoiner Ah, this was the video where you mentioned that was it :p I've been using that ever since thanks, I was just wondering if you'd mentioned specifically what timber you used but as you say 2x6's thanks :D
@steveharrington1242
@steveharrington1242 3 жыл бұрын
can I ask a of question, what mix sand cement should i use for the post foundations?
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 3 жыл бұрын
Concrete is traditionally a 6:1 mix, that means 6 parts sand/gravel (Ballast) & 1 part cement, to break that down further it's 4 parts 20mm gravel, 2 parts grit sand, 1 part cement, you can buy the Ballast (sand/gravel) already mixed in a bag ready to go, If you use just sand & cement it'll shrink n crack, that's what the gravel is there to do to bulk it out & prevent shrinkage, 👍 Don't be tight with the cement, not enough & the concrete will be porous & crumble in time, too much & the balance of sand/gravel/cement is wrong & might lead to cracking for the same reason i mention above, also too much cement can make the concrete brittle but you would have to put a LOT in to do either of these things, so go with the 6:1 mix & throw just a little more cement in if you're unsure if you've put enough in, rather than not enough, I work it on 6 bags of ballast to 1 bag of cement, providing they're similar sixed bags.
@garvielloken3929
@garvielloken3929 3 жыл бұрын
19:22 where may i purchase such a highly sophisticated tool?
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 3 жыл бұрын
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@KidneyMush
@KidneyMush 2 жыл бұрын
Is it okay to keep a deck flat/level?
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 2 жыл бұрын
I can't remember how long this deck was but the timber/boards aren't flat or perfectly straight & 4.8m long, so to get any kind of worthwhile pitch it'd have to be quite a slope, you'd need at least 20mm if not more per metre, so over just 3metres the deck would slope 60-70mm (3inch), i don't like that, these boards have big gaps between them so water doesn't really puddle, putting a slope on just isn't practical.
@SuperTehri
@SuperTehri 4 жыл бұрын
fcukin great video
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
😁👍👍
@extremereclusefallows5779
@extremereclusefallows5779 4 жыл бұрын
Bury those above ground concrete preformed footing blocks half way and lay the frame inside. No wood rot.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
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@russelladams6840
@russelladams6840 5 жыл бұрын
Cracking video gid I've almost watched all your videos now I'm thinking of doing decking at my house would fixing it to the side of the house be OK
@krakenhackenla
@krakenhackenla 5 жыл бұрын
As long as you put a space between the timber (ledger board) and the brickwork so air can dry the space out when it gets wet.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Russell. 👍 I avoid attaching it to the house simply to avoid damaging 'their' house but on my own house i might, make sure it's braced in a way that it's not pulling on the wall if it's not a low flat one like this, vertical load on a wall is fine but not a lateral load. as Kracken says leave the air bricks open that's why my frame is 2" off the wall, i should've mentioned that in the vid, it prob should have an uninterrupted air flow through but you do what you can to let air in,
@russelladams6840
@russelladams6840 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gidjoiner thanks that's great advice mine will be almost the same except I want to use composite decking thanks mate look forward to the next video's
@teawizard
@teawizard 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Gid, what do you use to drive the nuts onto the bolt. I'd like to buy one but struggling to find the correct stuff
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, in the past i used a Dewalt 1/2" chuck drill/driver but burnt out 2 quite quickly, i had/still have 2 Makitas, they're not powerful enough so went over to my impact driver on the air line, i used that for a while but having to have the airline n noisy compressor wasn't good so i bought the Bosch GSB 18-2-LI-Plus because it had a decent torque rating, 63Nm, It does well n i haven't killed it yet after quite a few yrs of abuse, so being more than happy with that it set me on the Bosch 18v tool route, i recently bought the Bosch impact driver, max torque 200Nm it says but i was very disappointed when driving in some coach screws, i thought it would piss on the GSB driver but noo 😒 I've learnt the impact driver has it's uses & is good for getting bigger screws in but still don't understand why it isn't hugely more powerful than the GSB, I use both for nuts, the impact because it has a sq drive chuck so i don't have to find the socket adaptor bit for the driver but i still like the driver, it'll twist your arm if not careful, only prob with that is i use the GSB driver for drilling the holes but then have to swap the bits, My little Milwaukee has pretty much died, it's piece of shit n i'll be putting it out of it's misery with a big hammer, i'll be replacing that with another Bosch 👍👍 Partly because i like them, they do what they should & i have the batteries but also because i don't want numerous chargers on site hogging sockets 👍😉
@teawizard
@teawizard 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gidjoiner what a brilliant reply. Enjoy smashing the shit out of the Milwaukee, maybe post a video of that too 😂👌. I have a 18v dewalt combi drill so may go with a dewalt impact driver so I can use the batteries I have. Your videos are so good, as a beginner they have taught me so much and really appreciate the advice. This shit is expensive so want to make sure I get the best kit! Thanks Gid! 🍻
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
If i was on-site still i might conform or choose another brand, maybe the Dewalt, I'd want the best, i'd be using it a lot more & would prob have a reg wage, more pennies in my pockets to buy the best & i also know what the peer pressure on-site is like 👍 if you turn up with a Ryobi drill 😂😂😂👎 I think the Dewalts have come a long way since then n people seem to like them, my other Dewalt tools have done well & my old chopsaw lasted over 20yrs, it still works but is a little tired so i replaced it with another Dewalt 👍 Yep the Milwaukee retirement will be getting filmed, was using it today & went out to the shed not long ago n it's light was still on 😖🔨🔨 Thanks, glad they're helpful, that's why i make them 😊👍👍
@ep91monster
@ep91monster 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of moaning about the bottoms of the post holes not being flat, you could've just propped the deck frame to level, bolted the joists to the posts, and poured concrete in the holes and tamped it so the concrete flows underneath the post too 🤦🏻‍♂️. Total waste of time notching them posts to sit the joists on! Two coach bolts straight through the joist and full post is plenty! You really make a right job of that, moaning about the post holes not being flat
@paulmcgeoch2603
@paulmcgeoch2603 5 жыл бұрын
8:00 Spectacular 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
😂 I wasn't in the mood for niceties 👍
@johncole9964
@johncole9964 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Couple of things surprised me: 1. You are using a full size pencil, 2. Most of your power tools do not have paint overspray on them! :)
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John 👍😂 The chop saw is blathered but most of these are site tools so don't live in the shed much &! 😲 the Makita screwgun & Bostitch nailer still live in their own boxes 😲😁
@garvielloken3929
@garvielloken3929 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gidjoiner Slathered*
@garvielloken3929
@garvielloken3929 3 жыл бұрын
sorry!
@davebax6819
@davebax6819 4 жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t it be at least 150mm below the dam proof course?
@davebax6819
@davebax6819 4 жыл бұрын
And if not fixed to the wall would you sat 10mm=15mm away from wall??
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
It's more than that away from wall
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
The outside wall is classed as a wet wall, the only reason you get damp inside is if the inside cavity is breached or the damp course is not stopping water from rising for whatever reason, the outside wall could get rained on constantly so if those two i mention are correct there won't be any damp.
@TT_ClubRacing
@TT_ClubRacing 7 ай бұрын
To be honest mate those posts wont last long with the amount of standing water in there
@rodgerq
@rodgerq 5 жыл бұрын
The square drive on that Bosch gun is a great wee idea! Good video as per, mate! One question, what's the score with the concrete for the extension being at ground level? (In the corner where the owner struggled to dig through)
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
The concrete i don't know, 🤷‍♂️🤣 i didn't spend too much time thinking about it. that drain away pipe ran along the bottom of the wall up to that bit of the extension with the doors in but no further, before he dug it out, Yeah the sq drive is why i bought it, in the comparisons on YT it can last, but that's the part i wanted it for, for jobs like this tightening coach bolts up & it fitted my batteries, it's good enough for my uses.
@simplykitchensnorfolk
@simplykitchensnorfolk 5 жыл бұрын
great vid again, what did you say about his torpedo level, cheers rob
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ?Robin 👍 I'd have to watch it again, it prob wasn't good 😉
@SBNewMe
@SBNewMe 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still angry about the bricks not lining up on that extension
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂👍
@Andy-2022
@Andy-2022 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you set the posts in the concrete? Or you could have just used concrete slabs. Would stop the water puddling in the hole
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
I mention in the vid putting concrete around the post would be just like putting a doughnut around, pointless, If the holes were dug to the depth i wanted than water in the hole wouldn't be a problem, below 6"-sh the ground/post would be hermetically sealed, no oxygen n therefore no organisms to rot the wood, that's why fence posts rot at ground level often leaving a stump in the ground, I spoke to the client who had ignored my advise when digging the holes, after explaining i wasn't happy with what a very piss poor job he'd done i mentioned options like you say about blocks but i felt i was getting nowhere & to be honest i'd had enough of this job,
@Andy-2022
@Andy-2022 4 жыл бұрын
Gid Joiner ok fair enough, many thanks.
@garethprice4223
@garethprice4223 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Gidjoiner For anybody who has not had to dig OUT those "rotten stumps in the ground" when right next to walls and poured concrete; it is a complete #unt. Spent several days face down in the ground (armpit level with edge of hole) mashing old screwdrivers and chisels attempting to remove rotten timber that was still strong enough on the inside to kill hours of time but rotten enough only to come away in bits. Digging iron bar? yeah right, they get wedged in the wood. Did consider burning them out with charcoal. www.prowellwoodworks.com/articles/_site_articles/postholes.htm BTW: Thanks for the video.
@jansobieski2250
@jansobieski2250 Ай бұрын
I had the same experience.
@robcamm7584
@robcamm7584 5 жыл бұрын
Get yourself a wet vac, clear them holes in no time bud.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Got one, I didn't expect it to be this wet so it wasn't in the van when i started, day 2 i couldn't be arsed still pissed from day 1 😏 got a big sponge in the van, couldn't even find the effort to get that out 😉
@robcamm7584
@robcamm7584 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@MrSSlice
@MrSSlice 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gidjoiner 😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👆
@samosborn9611
@samosborn9611 5 жыл бұрын
Gid, thoroughly enjoy your videos and I swear as much myself, you commented the holes had straight sides how should they have been done? I will be doing an almost identical deck soon and was planning to use a post auger to make the holes.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
😁 Good, Thanks 👍 don't see why a post auger wouldn't work but I like the holes to be about a ft wide, the wider than the post concrete gives a wider footprint to stop it sinking, if the ground/substrate was solid i might not bother with the concrete but this is clay, The concrete flat on top so that the post can be slid in under the frame once cut without the level changing, the foot of the post sitting on a flat base & also it makes it easier for the frame with legs attached to be shuffled over a little to get it sq, & deeper than this is what i asked for so that that posts can be back filled to give them some support, a ft i asked for because this is just a low flat deck but 12-18 inch maybe deeper depending on the job/ground, I notch the post so the frame is sitting on the post, the bolts just hold it in place, a decent length of post under the frame feels more like it will hold itself together better with that weight on top rather than a stubby corner block/post, There's pictures on Facebook of other decks I've built & i built a shed base in a similar way.
@samosborn9611
@samosborn9611 5 жыл бұрын
Gid Joiner Thanks for the answer much more comprehensive than I would have expected and greatly appreciated. If you don’t mind me pestering you with another question; if you did this deck for your own house what changes would you make aside from the footings if any? Really appreciate the videos and the length you go to in explaining. All the best.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍no prob you're welcome, I've built a few so have had the experience to refine the design, Each deck is different in design but the basic build, posts & frame etc is the same or very similar,I'd maybe return the ends or make the bit around the garage door differently but in the major design I prob wouldn't change anything apart from the footing & that would only be done right instead of the shambles he made of it., Most things i build, i build as if it was my own so if it was mine I'd probably/maybe only take a little more care on the minor details, cleaner cuts or more accurate gaps but these boards aren't straight, they vary in width & thickness a little so only a certain amount of 'precision' can be put into it. These decks got a little more attention 😉 there's a few more on my page, facebook.com/gid.joiner/media_set?set=a.1010427002376999&type=3 facebook.com/gid.joiner/media_set?set=a.187058694713838&type=3 facebook.com/gid.joiner/media_set?set=a.171525492933825&type=3 facebook.com/gid.joiner/media_set?set=a.281468205272886&type=3 facebook.com/gid.joiner/media_set?set=a.187017938051247&type=3 This big one i built in 2011, i didn't notch the posts, don't know why, I've been back to that recently tho & it seems fine but now i always (normally 😏) notch them, facebook.com/gid.joiner/media_set?set=a.186994724720235&type=3
@samosborn9611
@samosborn9611 5 жыл бұрын
Gid Joiner Thanks again for the comprehensive reply! You’re videos give me a lot more confidence to have a go myself, if you were southern I’d probably just get you in!! Cheers!
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck & sorry I'm northern 😂
@senseinathan1
@senseinathan1 5 жыл бұрын
hi Gid, what make are those clamps?
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, Wolfcraft 😉
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
These are the ones that open & close with the lever, 20yrs old mine n apart from the spring in the other this one is still going well n strong, going to buy some more one day, got enough for now but never have enough www.amazon.co.uk/Wolfcraft-3031000-one-hand-clamp-100-300/dp/B000P39LES/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?keywords=Wolfcraft+One-hand+Clamp&pd_rd_i=B000P39LES&pd_rd_r=d382f34a-de71-47f5-a2ee-01a4df7702ee&pd_rd_w=AOZr8&pd_rd_wg=biC3t&pf_rd_p=7dc56c0d-8a5f-4d97-9143-7233b106859a&pf_rd_r=6GM4NFC3ZRMC6CBPVRSC&qid=1567028184&s=diy
@senseinathan1
@senseinathan1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gid
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
@@senseinathan1 They look a little different to mine but mine are 15-20+yr old-ish
@craigbone9231
@craigbone9231 4 жыл бұрын
It would be a lot safer cutting the posts with a table saw.
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@ackec-umsekkruch-ekucki952
@ackec-umsekkruch-ekucki952 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like grabbing a lawn mower! This lawn is appalling. By the time you're finished with this job it'll need strim cut. Horrendous. Just like your language like Barbara said!
@Gidjoiner
@Gidjoiner 5 жыл бұрын
blah blah blah 🤷‍♂️
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