Grundig Trento a/WE Radiogram Pt 2 - The Record Player

[@4X6GP]

When I feel like giving up (after breaking something, etc.), I say to myself: Wait! Be like David Tipton -- he never quits!

[@DavidTipton101]

Haha... that's the spirit Victor, never give up. Thanks 😄

[@Luis-wx2jn]

Yes, it's true :)

[@jerkerfridh8189]

Spot on mate! There's the usual way and the "Tiptonic" way, the latter being the rewarding.👍

[@bfrieske]

Wow! Finding all the paperwork including parts breakout and schematic! Well done... Cheers!

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Bruce, I was lucky to get the record player service documents and the correct radio circuit diagram was a bonus. Thanks... cheers! 🙂

[@horatiohornblower868]

"You wouldn't write home to mum about it". Again one of those vintage Dave Tipton oneliners!

[@DavidTipton101]

That popped into my head, I think my Mum used to say it 😄

[@MrCarlsonsLab]

Nice to see the dedication Dave. Fantastic work on a troublesome record player!

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Paul, I wasn't looking for intervention from persons unknown, a valuable lesson for me 👍🙂

[@shaunsiz.itsbetterbytube2858]

@@DavidTipton101 The powers of intervention Mr C or was it Q in the space time continuum lol

[@bradbeasley7669]

mr c sup

[@jerkerfridh8189]

Well there You got It David, from the Canadian Wizard Himself, congratuations, and well done indeed👍

[@freemind9734]

@@shaunsiz.itsbetterbytube2858 You never know!

[@wolfie854]

A new post from David - a continuing story of repair and restoration- something to make my day perfect. What more could you want? Thanks so much for posting these videos.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you wolfie854, it's my pleasure 😀

[@hestheMaster]

Egads what a fantastic repair and restoration! Changers are very fussy so you must take notes on disassembly and hope the last bugger , who lost the ball bearings, didn't muck it up. Your attention to detail is remarkable David. Now you found the schematic for the radiogram hidden with the rest of the brochures. Note to everyone : to look through everything first ! Schematics are worth their weight in gold, if your lucky to find one.

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Steve, Thanks. The lost bearings were the the least of my troubles, having two parts incorrectly connected was the problem. Note to self, look in the box 😄

[@rakeshkumarsharma5037]

David Sir Good morning.You are all in all .A very good job done by you to restore Changer in original condition Thanks Sir.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you Rakesh 🙂

[@ernielazdins1348]

Hi David. Turntables seem like an interesting but at times a frustrating bag of bits. Good work. Looking forward to part 3.

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Ernie, frustrating? maybe, I know I will probably work it out but it's waiting for the aha moment when the I find the fault which in this case took a bit of time 😄

[@Valvulo]

I recognized this record player as being Philips by two details, before seeing the "Philips" stamp in the bottom of it: 1. The cheap plastic piece with three bearings in the base of the platter; 2. The GP224 cartridge. Back in the days, these Philips were quite common here in Brazil, and you can still find many around. I got two from mid-70s which still shares many of the characteristics with yours - and one of them labeled as Grundig! They can play quite well when properly adjusted and lubricated, specially with a very generous amount of thin grease in that bearings. The cartridge usually go bad after many years, and can be carefully disassembled and cleaned/fixed, since now they're quite expensive. Thanks for another great video! All the best!

[@Ragnar8504]

The cartridge is a dead giveaway, and so is the design of the controls. The design language is exactly the the same as the EL3549 open-reel tape recorder.

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Álvaro, The platter bearing is very cheap but it does work quite well surprisingly, I saw a good quality replacement one on US eBay with the proper number of bearings in a brass cage. I ordered a new cartridge and stylus but the old cartridge still works as can be seen in the video. Thanks Álvaro 😀

[@hanske4106]

About 40 years ago I had a Philips radiogram which had excactly the same recordplayer ! Watching this video brought back so many memories! Like when it "drops" the next record down. And this arm that has to up otherwise the needle is not going on the record.. I respect your patience with these ancient appliances!! Greetings from Holland!

[@DavidTipton101]

Hello Hans, I imagine Philips made a lot of these players, the mechanism is pretty amazing. Thanks Hams, Hi to Holland 🌷😀

[@hamishspencer]

Always enjoyable to watch and great persistence. Thanks, Dave.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you Hamish 😀

[@iantyler4045]

You can see why most tech's hate working on auto turntables but once again your patience paid off.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Ian, I had to get it working or no video 😄

[@MarkMcCluney]

Poor old Laura and Tommy - their relationship stopped before it started. Thanks David another great show and the promise of another when the cabinet is done. Cheers mate and stay healthy.

[@DavidTipton101]

She told him not to go as well, Kids! Thanks Mark, stay safe 👍🙂

[@neccron9956]

If you look at the original platter mat, the raised ring towards the outside is the same height as the center plastic ring. So the the record rests on the platter, it will touch the center ring, and the raised outside ring. Now that you replaced the platter with the felt mat, the record is now not supported correctly on the outside.

[@DavidTipton101]

It seems to be working alright with the felt mat so far Gustave, The centre disk is depressed below the felt now 🙂

[@TheUltimateRecycler]

Funny thing with vintage record player mechanisms - I think they were always designed late on a Friday arvo after some beers at work!! Perhaps the secret to understanding them is to replicate the environment! 😂😂 Well done Dave, I admire your persistence! 👍😊

[@DavidTipton101]

I did! Thanks Chris 🍻😄

[@vinny142]

Oh the good old days when I was a kid and I got old and broken raiod's etc from my family. Sometimes they had had a go at fixing it and had a little bag of most of the parts they had taken out but forgotten where they went... the hours I spent trying to figure out where the bit I had should go and then the frustration of missing that one essential spring that went "PLOINK" when they tried to take it out and probably ended up in a hooverbag. It's great fun when you finally get it to work and it's very enjoyable to see you struggle with the same problems I had back then :-) Cheers!

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi vinny142, sounds like you had a similar childhood to me. Haha... it's nice that you enjoyed revelling in my record player struggles 😄 Thanks vinny142 👍

[@998cooper]

I have restored quite a few old record players Dual Kriesler Garrard & BSR and whilst they are similar they all have their nuances. This ones is no different. I loved the vid and your attention to detail.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you 998cooper. With a bit of exposure these machines would be relativity easy I expect 🙂

[@blitzroehre1807]

Good going there David! That record player chassis has a definite Philips signature to it. I filmed a video on a Philips portable resto I did some months ago, equally frustrating. Have finished editing and will upload on my channel in a day or two Cheers from Germany

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Blitz, It is a Philips unit with a Grundig badge, all Grundig id was cut a hole to fit it. I'll be sure to check out you video 🙂

[@chrishansen724]

I thought that drop of the vinyl onto the turntable would crack the record, it was so loud. Another Tipton Triumph! Now can't wait for the woodworking in Part 3.

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Chris, the noise was frightening but the record is OK. Thanks Chris 😀

[@terrycard6775]

Looking forward to part 3.This channel is the best restoration of electronics there is. LOVE your dedication. Best wishes Terry uk 🇬🇧 👍

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Terry 👍😀

[@otekrec]

Whenever you say “my next radio adventure”, I am reminded of the Mahavisnnu album “Adventures in Radioland”. 😁 I actually had a Grundig radio/“preceiver” much like that way back when, which was handed down from my dad. It was hooked up to a Bang & Olufsen HMV turntable and a Philips tube amp, and custom-made 3-way speakers. It sounded great as I recall, but as I didn’t know anything about these things back then, it was discarded when the amplifier malfunctioned back in the mid-80s. Wish I had it still…

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Ola. Not my cup of tea but I found Adventures in Radioland on KZbin kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3u1fKqqlKt0jbc&ab_channel=elQuixote

[@chrisclark6192]

Hi David. Another great result. Those old Philips turntables were cheap and cheerful. Idler wheel drives were still popular back then, Garrard and the cheap and nasty BSR were using idler wheels into the mid 80s. In fact the superb Swiss made Lenco L75 with the Goldring arm was idler drive, and was one of the best turntables in its day. Look forward to seeing the next part, and I'm sure you will achieve another superb result. As always another enjoyable video. Cheers Chris.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Chris, it had the spare belt in the box and I expected it to be belt drive. You are right of course, I don't remember seeing belt drive till the mid 70s 👍🙂

[@Antony_Jenner]

I can't wait for part 3 Dave. I'm sure it will sound great. 🤞

[@DavidTipton101]

I'm looking forward to hearing it too A Last, should be good 😀

[@clasicradiolover]

A good video and a great time was had by all your viewers. I wouldn't ever figure out that complex of gears and rods and ect in that player. I'm impressed.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks clasicradiolover, there's a lot going on in there 😄

[@steelcity321pb6]

Hi Dave, Thank you for sending me information about your signal generator: some of the articles in the magazines are interesting reading - much appreciated my friend. The times I’ve received electronic equipment that has been messed with - like you, with your record deck, I have ended up spending loads of time putting right what has been put wrong before I get down to repairing the original fault. You have done an excellent job cleaning, and restoring the record deck. It looks very much like it was manufactured by Philips. I’m certainly looking forward to Part 3 of this series - I know it too will be a treat Cheers my friend, Phil

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Phil, it was my pleasure. The fiddling by others caught me out, the info I had was that it was original and had simply stopped working and it was in the box ready for me to look at. Being delivered in a box might have been a red flag 🤔 The unit is built by Philips and delivered to the Grundig factory. The cabinet is turning out to a bigger job than I thought, I hope I can get it finished in time. Thanks Phil 😀

[@ripleysmith7583]

There’s nothing like trying to figure it out from scratch and then find in the instructions afterwards. Great work as always. Excited for part three.

[@DavidTipton101]

It's my go-to method Ripley, do the work then read the instructions to see where I went wrong 🙄 Thanks mate!

[@midnightwind8067]

Good stuff. Funny how it’s never as easy as you would hope isn’t it. Oh well. It’s a win. Something occurred to me while watching this video. Growing up, our world was full of motion. Records turned and tone arms moved magically. No wonder we had more fun. Everything was like a mechanical toy of some kind. I’m sure that added to the perception of the experience.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Midnight Wind, it was a little harder than I had anticipated 🙄 Watching all those parts moving about is mesmerising 😀

[@hijmestoffels5171]

That rubber idler-wheel brings back memories of frustration and anger. My first turntable was a Philips, like this one. Because the rubber on that wheel had dried out the turntable slipped, which I tried to fix by shortening the spring. Which, of course, caused other problems. Not everything was better in the old days!

[@DavidTipton101]

Idler wheels are a problem, they aren't readily available and are often beyond repair, yes, more spring means more damage to the wheel over the long term 🙄

[@1974UTuber]

Anther video from David means another fantastic Friday night and a great start to the long weekend here in NSW.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks 1974UTuber, enjoy your weekend 👍🙂

[@edwardhannigan6324]

I must say, not only is it a task to figure out what's wrong with the mechanism, but who the hell has the mind to design this stuff..! Just fascinating, and as usual David, your determination ( without the violence & language..🤣) To get it fixed..Great vid and info..Ed..uk..😀

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Ed, thanks. I was thinking the same thing while I was working on it, how do you design something like this. It was tricky to fix, I wasn't looking for incorrectly fitted parts 🙄🙂

[@edwardhannigan6324]

@@DavidTipton101 Ya got there in the end..👍

[@wrex7044]

Another mechanical radio adventure, thank you very much Dave!

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you W Rex

[@triodehexode]

Good old Grundig and their diagrams quality stuff back in the day.

[@DavidTipton101]

Yes, very good of them to put one with the set 🙂

[@pd1jdw630]

Well done buddy. Looking forward to the completion of the stereogram. 👍🏻

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Rob, part 3 is up 🙂

[@johncengia]

Great work Dave, and you've got a circuit diagram of the radiogram too. You beauty.

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi John, thank you. Yes, a bit of luck there 🙂

[@davidcronan4072]

For those that haven't seen it before, the 16 speed was used for non-music discs , such as talking books and dramas. Argo, for instance issued the complete works of Shakespeare in this format. Because of the slower speed you could get a longer playing time on the disc.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks David, that's good info, cheers 😀

[@greggsvintageworkshop8974]

Awesome troubleshooting of that record player and getting it figured out Dave! Nice work!

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Gregg. It was a bit of a challenge, I could see what it had to do but didn't expect someone had fiddled with it, a lesson learned 😄

[@greggsvintageworkshop8974]

Yes, previous repair attempts can definitely interfere without something to compare it to. You did fantastic on it. Getting ready to watch the cabinet video. Excited to see the finished product!

[@DavidTipton101]

Maybe that the player was in a box should have been a clue. He said he had pulled it out for me to look at 🙄🙂

[@glenwhatley4125]

BTW, brilliant repair on that split gear! I'm sure I'll use that idea somewhere along the line! Gotta love the spare screw stash as a life saver!

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Glen, thanks. I think the gear repair will hold 🙂

[@bharathba4762]

Hello Sir, it's a very Great Restoration Work. Especially I am very interested with the GRUNDIG RECORD CHANGER. Very great idea in fixing the gear which has crack.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Antique_Guru. The gear wasn't cracked, it was a manufacturing line 🙄

[@paulziminskin2ghr282]

That was a bit of a challenge Dave, Challenges are good keeps the ol brain stimulated, nice job, anxious to catch part 3, Im sure the cabinet will come out pristine..

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Paul, You have to keep stimulating the brain or lose it 🧠😀

[@lakrfan4980]

The patience and detail you've given the record player is quite commendable.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks lakrfan 49 😀

[@Plons0Nard]

Oh, those smart mechanisms. Wonderfull engineering. Once again it was a pleasure, Dave 👍🤝🇳🇱

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Nard 🙂

[@veryboringrides3664]

Not the simplest of mechanisms! Great restoration job

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Very Boring Rides 😀

[@kennethgibbons2487]

Hi David - quarter to one in the morning here - your posts always arrive late at night and I just can't wait till the next day! I have really enjoyed this series so far... your work on the turntable was most interesting (but frustrating from your point of view no doubt). Strange how all your problems came down to a thin spring hooked (incorrectly) over a piece of the mechanism. I know I would have been tearing my hair out but you always seem to project a calmness and matter-of-fact attitude. Keep up the good work - looking forward to episode 3.

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Kenneth, The time difference is a challenge, sorry to keep you up 😉 I don't seem to get frustrated, there must be a missing brain cell or something, I do go and do something else for a while and come back, maybe that helps. Thanks Kenneth 😀

[@mounilef]

Great David!

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you Mohamed 😀

[@BoB4jjjjs]

Excellent work Dave :-))

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Bob 🙂

[@waynethompson8416]

Dave, as always a great video. Your dedication and "sticktoitiveness" are great examples for the rest of us! You have sort of taken a page from "Galaxy Quest" with your "Never Give Up, Never Surrender" mindset. I really enjoy and appreciate your videos!

[@DavidTipton101]

Gosh! I haven't seen Galaxy Quest for years, Tim Alan I remember. Thanks Wayne, I'm happy you enjoy them 👍🙂

This model was my first record player back in the early 70s. At that time one could get all spare parts at the local Philips service station.

[@DavidTipton101]

It would be nice if you could still do that Jens, save me a lot of work 🙂

[@kharakim]

Masterful, as usual. You could give the Grundig factory service techs a run for their money! Looking forward to part 3.

[@DavidTipton101]

Haha... Thanks Moshe 😄

[@horatiohornblower868]

That felt mat will do wonders to your vinyls. The noise the LP made when falling on the rubber was simply deafening. Like a Stuka nosediving!

[@DavidTipton101]

I know, it was like dropping it on concrete, thanks Horatio Hornblower 😀

[@horatiohornblower868]

T. Dobbs Indeed it is!

[@cogidubnus1953]

springclips...the gifts that keep on giving!

[@DavidTipton101]

Keep on going... (somewhere) 😄

[@Joe-KN4IFI]

Looking good David. It can be such a pain when someone has been inside before you. 73 Joe

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Joe, especially when you don't expect it, I will keep that in the back of my mind for the future 😀 thanks Joe.

[@eddys.3524]

The pickup head is a philips... they're still available, at least here in The Netherlands...

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Eddy, they are available here too, I bought a new one 😀

[@clivetucker176]

Enjoying this one Dave. Cheers 🍻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Clive 😀🍻

[@terryblackman6217]

You got there in the end. Nice one.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Terry 😀

[@ivorbassett5249]

Hi, I had one of the which was given to me by my grandfather. He told me that you had to flick the needle one side for playing vinyl (LPs, singles etc) and you have to flick it the other way for playing 78's (LPS), the S stood for shellac because the old 78's were made of shellac and you needed a harder needle to play them.

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Ivor, I remember those stylus, it would get left in the wrong position occasionally. I can still get the stylus with the 78 on one side and LPS on the other 😀

[@amaraltimimi4106]

really another amazing jop dive nice work 👍with all my respect to you

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you Amar 👍🙂

[@GregAlanEdwardsEmmanuelRidge]

Another one for the books!! David, you never fail to amaze!! Great job!

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Greg 😀

[@franklincoello8606]

You're dedication to what you do is really amazing, nice job Dave

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Franklin 🙂

[@neilforbes416]

2:47 What you have there in that rectangular black device is a stacker adaptor for the large-centred 45rpm discs common through Europe, Canada, America, and some British issues. It slips over the standard stacker and you pile up about 4-to-6 of those large-centred records and "let 'er rip!"

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Neil 👍

[@Mediawatcher2023]

Those stackers use to fascinate me when i was younger

[@LarryDeSilva64]

I really don't know how you can troubleshoot a mechanical record player. I have only added a new belt to one luckily nothing else was wrong. I would have been lost if I had to take the mechanical parts out and tried to troubleshoot a problem. But, you are very methodical in your approach and seem to find the problem. Great Video David.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks LUCKYLARRY, I was a bit lucky, I knew what was supposed to happen I just had to work out why it wasn't 🙂

[@chriswade7470]

I had a friend who had a Grundig Stereogram. I had a Philips Portable stereo record player and the Headshells were the same on both. I had still have somewhere a Headshell with a stereo diamond stylus. S on the stylus means Standard which is for 78rpm Shellac discs. I personally think that Grundig used record decks made by Phillips, but badged for them.

[@DavidTipton101]

That is correct Chris, Philips supplied Grundig with rebadged Philips record players in later years 🙂

[@chrisr3614]

Those electrostatic tweeters are renowned for not working properly after many years and need restoration. There are many articles on the net showing how to restore them. If you Google electrostatic tweeter restoration you will see quite a few Grundig models being rebuilt. The problem is with the foam rubber pressure pad distengrating against the diaphragm. It would be worth checking yours out

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Chris, thanks. I looked at the speakers and they are riveted to the mounting plate and the plastic casing has been melt sealed, nothing that can't be overcome but I will wait and see how well they work or don't work. Other electrostatic speakers I have have been OK but I have no experience with Grundig's models. I'll check out the videos so I can be mentally prepared 😀

[@jeremytravis360]

Watching this video motivated me to get out my Hi Fi Year reference books from when I worked in the trade. They list turntables as "Motor Units" And strangely they they do not motion the drive methods.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Jeremy, my 'Motor Unit' is working well now 😄

[@jeremytravis360]

@@DavidTipton101 We just called them decks.

[@martinoakley6651]

Nice one David. Good work as always!

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Martin 😀

[@jaytitus902]

Well done, as always.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you Jay 🙂

[@waynio67]

Nice work again 👍💪💪👍

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks waynio67 👍🙂

[@user-nd3lx1zg9t]

Great job Dave.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Tim 😀

[@101blog]

Again the mechanics been more erksome than the electronics ...good one keep it up!

[@DavidTipton101]

It's a bit of a maze in there, thanks 101blog 👍🙂

[@andybbeck2043]

Dave super job as allways great detail

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you Andy 😀

[@paulsto6516]

Very enjoyable. Thanks for sharing.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you PauSto Sto 🙂

[@alanm2809]

Great job David!

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you Alan 👍🙂

[@neilforbes416]

4:00 If you took the stylus out, you'll see that the two tips are both for LPS(Long Players) Sapphire styli, it's just that the head-shell holding the cartridge obscures the lettering on that little flip-over tag on the stylus shank.

[@DavidTipton101]

Yeah, I worked that out, thanks Neil 🙂

[@PaulinesPastimes]

Those automatic changers look like a nightmare, so many levers and springs that are easy to get wrong. Wise not to dismantle it I think :-) Congrats on getting it working and, er, reverse engineering a past 'repair'. 😊👍

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Pauline, it was a bit tricky, there was a hole with a rod in it, hard to tell it wasn't supposed to be there. It works well now though 😀

[@peterhollander6392]

On the deck of the record player is there the brand name Grundig, but actually this deck is manufactured by Philips in 1962, the type is AG1025. From 15:30 you can see the Philips brand label.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Peter, I found that out, the manual I used was from Philips 😀

[@zx8401ztv]

That deck really did need your love dave, lots of problems what a shame :-( I always enjoy your well thought out approach to repairs :-D I'm also impressed by the clever/sneaky mechanisms made by the manufacturers. Every deck is different, but they all do the job. That platter looks so nice with it's new grip mat, looks spot on :-D.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks zx8401ztv, I cannot imagine designing something like this, the mind boggles 🙂

[@Latuernich09]

Oh, a micro tool with front light!, Nice, never seen that before.

[@DavidTipton101]

Very handy tool Latürnich 🙂

[@glenwhatley4125]

Nice. I haven't seen a Grundig record changer since the early 70's. In the US We didn't see many Grundig anything's even back then. Btw, the record end trip slider that the tone arm actuates should be grease free as it impedes its travel down the record. You might think perhaps some light oil, but that tends to attract dust and defeats the purpose off minimal drag on the tone arm movement.. Just a thought...

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Glen, I'll check the Philips lube chart I have and see what it recommends, thanks for the tip 👍😀

[@Digital-Dan]

Microfiber swabs are now available, both in a flat paddle format and pointed tips, that avoid leaving fibers on everything. Somehow, to me, that makes a difference.

[@DavidTipton101]

What would I use those on Digital Dan, the deck?

[@martinbrooks1562]

Cheers David, reet good do,

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Martin 😀

[@neilforbes416]

7:01 That flip-over stylus *does indeed* come out of the head. That bracket just behind the flip-over tab holds the stylus in the cartridge. It's just a matter of turning the tab half-way to get a good grip, then just gently pulling toward the front of the cartridge. The replacement goes in by reversing the procedure. By the way, LP-S refers to LP Stereo, which is somewhat superfluous as the other side, simply labelled LP will also play the stereo discs. The stereo content is detected by the cartridge, not the stylus.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Neil 👍

[@Mediawatcher2023]

@neilforbes416 Yes i remember those.

[@Jerbod2]

Mechanism looks pretty complicated to me, nice how you figured it out.

[@DavidTipton101]

It is Manny, and half of it is on each side, it's a bit hard to follow 🙂

[@neilforbes416]

The loop on that spring closest to the underside of the player deck should, I think, hook onto the narrower prong of that piece under the pivot point of the pickup arm. That's my best guess. (20:40)

[@DavidTipton101]

No, it just sat there in the breeze. I think a person before me got to it and put it on the prong trying to 'fix' it 🙂

[@mattvoce1091]

Great work Dave fascinating mecatronics!

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Matt 🙂

[@sheldonlatimer6688]

As usual a job well done can't wait to see the Finnish product

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Sheldon 👍🙂

[@blueribb99]

Rubber idlers get hard with age and should be replaced. The problem is finding an exact replacement. When I serviced turntables and couldn't locate an idler, I would use a rubber drive cleaner liquid to soften the rubber. I actually still have some left over. It must be 20 years old or more. The tiny glass bottle (1 ounce) was sold by Vita-Drive in the USA

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi Glenn, the rubber was still very soft and supple. I removed the hard edge rubber and it's working perfectly. I have seen people used rubber softener but haven't heard of Vita-Drive. Thanks Glenn 😀

[@nathkrupa3463]

excellent sir

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Nath 👍🙂

[@richardbrobeck2384]

nice Dave !

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you Richard 🙂

[@eddyaudio]

Another great repair Grundigs didn’t appear in the Workshop except I migrate person bought them over from and as you said that double Pentode plus Triode is very expensive The changer looks like Philips clone I think Philip Australia used a similar Changer in there RadioGrams but. Full Marks Mate in getting in operation I can difficulty and swear word you be using.Ian.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Ian. The player is a Philips unit and even the part number carried over to the Grundig. Cheers 🙂

[@tarstarkusz]

Idler wheel turntables were more or less standard on high end stereos of that time. It really wasn't until the mid 70s to early 80s when really cheap DC drive motors replaced these nice all metal constructions. Basically when stereos went from hiding inside furniture (the console) to the rack and bookshelf type systems of the 80 and 90s.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks tarstarkusz, I saw the spare drive belt in the box with the player and assumed it was belt drive. I had a belt drive player in the mid 70s 😀

[@tarstarkusz]

@@DavidTipton101 Isn't this from the 60s? Was your belt-drive turntable driven by a small DC motor? I know they started to become really popular in the mid-late 70s and had taken over entirely by the mid 80s. The high end consoles of the 50s and 60s all used these changer type mechs and the best ones had very light tonearms and light moving magnet cartridges. I think Zenith had a different type that was also very light. IIRC, it was called the Cobramatic or something like that. Some of the better ones also had a "pitch" control that would allow you to speed up or slow down the record, although they are pretty good without it because they are synced to the frequency of AC.

[@bradbeasley7669]

excellent

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Brad 🙂

[@pbrstreetgang2489]

Great job Dave! Way to stick to it till it's done Mate.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks PBR 😀

[@rádiosantigos1958]

Well done again!

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Alvaro 🙂

[@bborkzilla]

Waiting for the Harmonica Dude demo!

[@DavidTipton101]

Haha... thanks Borkzilla 😂

[@lookoutleo]

the turntable is philips, i had a few with that weird philips cartridge , love your videos. would love to visit if i ever make it to aus :) s for saphire or stereo stylus, and rubber idlers didnt go out till the last of the crappy bsr turntables in about 83 , then they were modified to take belt, but by then turntables were plastic so pretty rubbish :)

[@DavidTipton101]

Hi lookoutleo, yes it's a Philips. I was a little surprised when I saw the idler wheel but on reflection I should have expected it 🙂

[@howardhiggins9641]

I'm not into phono-players, but after I start watching your videos, I forget that - and always enjoy them. There's always something to learn. Your caution about the voltage setting made me wonder if you have ever changed the voltage (correctly) on something, only to find that the device does not work properly on 50 Hz AC (or 60 Hz) ?

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Howard. The Hertz difference doesn't cause any problems except for motors in grams or clocks so I haven't had any issues so far. I would assume this gram would have a different diameter drive spindle to suit 60 Hertz 🤔

[@neilforbes416]

27:45 Don't throw out the cartridge, just get rid of the worn stylus. The cartridge is still okay. it's the stylus itself that's worn(unless you've flipped it and the tip on the opposite side of the shank is okay). That's the thing with these dual-tipped styli, as one tip wears away, flip the tag and a new tip is waiting, ready to, as the late John Meillon used to say, "Keep on keeping on!".

[@DavidTipton101]

The replacement cart and stylus came as an assembly. I still have the old one and it works fine 👍

[@jeffreyhickman3871]

Yes 👍, it has a radio 📻. I now remember the name "Radiogram" 📻. Your friend, Jeff.

[@DavidTipton101]

Yep, OK Jeff 🙂

[@JacGoudsmit]

At first I thought: Hey I didn't know Grundig made cartridges that are similar to Philips? Then you flipped it over and there's a label saying it IS a Philips. Duh. Great video as always. Thanks for posting!

[@DavidTipton101]

Haha... I found out pretty quickly that it was a Philips, I searched the Grundig model number and it came up as a Philips. Thanks for watching 👍 😀

[@shaunsiz.itsbetterbytube2858]

👍👍☕☕☕ on it's way

[@DavidTipton101]

Thank you Shaun ☕☕☕

[@neilforbes416]

2:29 That's a 45rpm single-play adaptor, and then there's the auto-stacker 45rpm adaptor which slides onto the thinner auto-stacker spindle, these are for playing European, Canadian & American and some of the British records that had large spindle centres(usually from Polydor and Philips Industries before they united to become Phonogram Ltd., then later Polygram Ltd.) Those things should've been supplied as standard accessories in Australia as well but you only saw them with British, European and American/Canadian record players.

[@DavidTipton101]

Thanks Neil, I know. I don't remember seeing any large hole 45s in Oz, some players came with a little filler disc to accommodate them 🙂

[@neilforbes416]

@@DavidTipton101 I collect overseas 45s as a hobby, from Canada, America, Britain and Europe. The first record player I ever owned was a HMV "Minigram". It was British-built as it incorporated a pop-up spindle adaptor(pull up and turn anti-clockwise 45 degrees to lock in place). This feature was absent from the Australian-built versions of the Minigram. I started collecting American 45s while in high school. The first one I bought was *I'm Wondering* c/w *Every Time I See You, I Go Wild* by Stevie Wonder on the Tamla label, T-54157. I still have it but it's too heavily worn to play any more.

[@Mediawatcher2023]

@@neilforbes416 The HMV Mercury 1973 model had a pop up centre the player came in three different colours red,black and grey the only down fall is it had that transistor sound but it would be ideal if your playing kiddie records on them from Disneyland,Peter Pan and Mr Pickwick a good example