GSOR 1010 FB - Fact? Fiction? or Fake?

[@peerschulz2029]

OK, lets be real here: it's not a GSOR vehicle. It's a "British" AMX-10RC that was slightly modified becaus WG can't be arsed to reserch anything beyond the basic id number to make it somewhat believable. The whole line is fiction/kitbash (in higher tiers). I mean at least the design is (somewhat) plausible/workable. The tier 9 is worse. It uses the 1006 pruposed hull and adds a Vickers Mk. 3 turret onto it somehow...

[@armouredarchives8867]

yup. i know. - did the work for them. the tier 9 gsor 1006 hull with the wrong turret (also minus 16 missiles) and the tier X is a real paper project. but even then only a comparative study

[@Gabriel3244]

​@@armouredarchives8867 Well if it was on the console version it would have missiles, with a notable exception, the ww2 mode still doesn't have them and it won't for 4 more seasons with the introduction of the T34 calliope.

[@DeeEight]

As Chieftain said about WoW... "can't wait till they introduce the carriers to the german line..."

[@imboredrly5478]

balancing games is hard... the EBR is real and it broke the meta still, atleast wot is an arcade game and is not suposed to be realistic like war thunder

[@theonlymann1485]

​@@imboredrly5478 dude, the only oen that broke the game by a large margin was the EBR 105 that has never been planned/made and has a zerobakc speed that is comparable to the most advanced supercars out there all the while being liek 20 times heavier.

[@bjboss1119]

Enemy: *exists* British tank design office: *slaps swingfire* "this bad boy can be mounted anywhere"

[@HMSConqueror]

This could be a interesting series, comparing "wot tanks" vs the extisting prototypes or just paper tanks.

[@cryohellinc]

Yes!

[@Simon_Nonymous]

It could be a very long and cathartic series.

[@zbyszanna]

Or other games too really, although I'm not sure if his bussiness relation with Wargaming woudn't suffer.

[@GARDENER42]

@@Simon_Nonymous Or a very short one if you only considered what they got right...

[@Simon_Nonymous]

Indeed - it would make a good micro video :-)

[@tommeakin1732]

As someone that stopped playing their games yeeears ago, I take great pleasure in the fact that you do research work for Wargaming, and still go on to consistently treat them with all of the unapologetic, facepalming contempt that they deserve. And I suppose, in a way, respect to Wargaming for working with someone as honest as you. Though lets be honest, knowing WG, they probably just don't know. Don't worry, I won't tell them 🤐

[@mitchverr9330]

The pass off as real thing annoys me too. What upsets me more so though is that as you said/did the work for them to have clearly, easily implementable real vehicles both built and designed yet they chose to just make it up instead. Whats the point of adding something fake when you could add something thats real? So what if even 90% of the players dont understand autocannons can be superior in some instances over a main gun, let the 10% that understand this enjoy something thats a bit more real, same goes for the radar. Also the way they treat their players as "too dumb" is why I moved away from that game. When I heard British wheelie bois coming to it I was so close to reinstalling but then I saw effectively only 3 of the vehicles seem to be actually real lol. Though Saladin might be worth it if they dont bung that up. Have to give you big props for putting up with how they treat the history and information you put so much time and effort into finding for them, hope that they listen to it for the future and we can get some more "realistic" additions to that game as I enjoyed it, but they just never really added more things I wanted for years.

[@Simon_Nonymous]

Well said sir!

[@colinrichardson9537]

But they are right 😂 Their players are "too dumb" to complain or do research. Only like 1% don't have a job or hobby so they spent their time on this useless actions

[@chromiumphotography5138]

WG believe auto cannons and radar too complex for the player base. Is this same WG that had plans for a crew skill rework that has got flamed twice by the same player base? Oh hold on, yes it is, but getting vehicles somewhere historically correct is neither here nor there whilst there is money to be made from a crew skill revamp. 🙄

[@o-hogameplay185]

8:32 "even german mains can get this right after a few tries". as a former wot player, and these days wt player, this was so funny. the amount of germany mains who think that a tiger 1 or a panther could win agains a modern mbt is really high

[@tommeakin1732]

It's so funny that the same meme exists in War thunder; seemingly through organic convergent evolution, as opposed to the meme just being copied between games

[@ravenouself4181]

Technically they can... just not the likes of the Abrams, K2 Black Panther or Leapord 2A5+. An older/weaker MBT, such as the Leopard 1 or Ariete, if caught in an ambush and shot in the sides [or in the case of the leopard 1, anywhere] would get neutralized.

[@o-hogameplay185]

@@ravenouself4181 yes, i know. but they mean, 1v1, and the tiger destroys it frontally, while the mbt cant pen it. that level of wehraboos i was talikng about

[@tommeakin1732]

@@ravenouself4181 If you're being charitable, it's pretty clear that's not what they meant. Even a lot of interwar/early ww2 AT guns could penetrate the rear armour of many modern mbts, but that doesn't suddenly make them effective or competitive modern AT weapons

[@Ewen6177]

I was so waiting for this after your Saladin showing yesterday.... Oh this line is going to be the worst British line yet. GJ on your content as ever. Cheers from Elgin up north.

[@andreww2098]

dear god even worse than the light tanks with a camo rating worse than a medium and a slow firing limited ammo low alpha gun?

[@Ewen6177]

@@andreww2098 I bet it will be..

[@cryohellinc]

More videos in this style! Awesome.

[@wacojones8062]

Being one of the early Beta testers I absolutely love your dissections. In real life I spent 27 years most as a trainer on the reserve side training Cav scouts how to ID and kill Russian tanks. I play Armored Warfare every day the Wargaming side all 3 games when I want to try out their newest goof ups and see how well I can do with them vs the boys with 7 skill crews. I was able to visit Aberdeen proving grounds on a cold December day before the collection was broken up.

[@Simon_Nonymous]

Oh I am so shocked. I love the pumpkin seeds on the main background... that's even cheekier than suggesting all Russians are vodkaholics. This is a very good essay on how entertainment and money will defeat history every time. Nice hatchet job Ed - you didn't get shouty at all, I would have!

[@GARDENER42]

They're sunflower seeds for WG bods to put in their pockets. (It's an old Ukrainian thing...).

[@Simon_Nonymous]

@@GARDENER42 as soon as I read your comment I knew I'd got it wrong - sunflower seeds indeed they are, thank you for putting me right.

[@thanosaekk2449]

Great video, would love to see more analyses of WG "creations" from someone who's actually looked at the archives. Is the Tier 7 (FSV Scheme A) based on anything, BTW?

[@armouredarchives8867]

yep due soon

[@mrjockt]

WarGaming really do need to change the name of the game to “World of Fantasy Tanks” since the last few tech tree lines they’ve added mostly appear to be made up just so they can put more “tanks” into the game.

[@strategicmind2652]

Again, autocannons they work well in War Thunder, they're huge fun as the ROF on them is insane ofc in exchange for lower pen though some have as much as 200mm

[@schnuersi]

Its not that they don't work in a game or even wouldn't work in WoT. After all they do work in low tiers and they used to have larger ACs in mid tiers as well. When introduced the French tanks startig mid tier all had auto loaders. This had been their gimick. These worked allmost like ACs with very short ramming time... Which caused conciderable bad blood in the community. It turned out the heavy tank players had a conciderable problem with a light tank flanking them and by unloading their clip into their rear taking more than 1/2 their HP befor they could turn their turret. I guess if you have to compensate for things by driving the biggest tank possible its very detrimental getting outmanoeuvered and -played by a small light tank. If they would introduce post WW2 ACs it would be allmost exactly that situation again.

[@kippamip]

When WOT was first released it was almost accurate. Then premium tanks came along and the rest was history. Seems like a similar concept to the Saladin variant covered in yesterday's vid but upscaled.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

The thing about players not comprehending autocannons is weird to me considering the same video that first teased British armoured vehicles also talked about a new mechanic for autocannons, presumably high teir tldue to being teased with a E50m. So clealry they changed their minds but not in time to give this vehicle its proper weapon.

[@armouredarchives8867]

yeah, they were also very anti flamethower then too, but seem to have come round since then

[@antalpoti]

​@@armouredarchives8867flamethrower tanks will be introduced to the Russian servers only. They are Lesta's idea, not Wargaming's.

[@novus80]

No love lost between you and WG 😂 Thanks again for this unbowing vid and the effort done to atleast keep the real stuff real as well as reserchable. Modelsmakers already have done enough harm as it is..

[@boris8787]

I love the Universal Carrier as seen in the 1944 war movie set in the town of Chillingbourne.

[@catlee8064]

I see at 03:02 the driver has the new and improved tiller/cross over arm style of driving, a lost art of cocking up not seen since the 60s!!

[@Nebris]

As was said below, ""British" AMX-10RC". But I do like the looks of the thing, *wrong* as it might be. 😁

[@SkywardSpork]

This is a great idea, I love the history of tanks I've not heard much on, especially if they never made it off paper. My only recommendation is subtle background music during the video, it fills in dead air between sentences.

[@coalmine8350]

I feel like taking the red pill... wow this is the channel I've been looking for! Thank you very much for the wonderful content. This channel deserves more subs.

[@dougstubbs9637]

I used to ride a Suzuki GSX-R 1100, but this vehicle is yet to appear in WG.

[@simonwood1402]

Drug taking is out of control! The design team have obviously been snorting baguettes! 👃 🍞 because this vehicle is 100% French!!! 🇫🇷

[@stuartgmk]

👍👀

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

WG: Players are too stupid to understand autocannons. Also WG: Here is an overly complicated holiday event. Enjoy!

[@rogerhinman5427]

Wargaming messed it up. No surprise to any of us familiar with Wargaming.

[@DeeEight]

I once asked Chieftain in one of his Q&As if he thought WG would ever put the Skink (the Canadian Grizzly , aka M4A1 Sherman variant) with the AA turret for quad 20mm Polsten cannons into the game and he didn't much see the point..... except...this is wargamming... they'd obviously fake it anyway, change the rules of the game to make it work, etc. I mean they already treat the armor as somewhat ablative in operation. I'm sure they'd come up with a reason why a 2 second burst totalling 30 rounds of 20mm would be as damaging as a single shot of 75mm. And all the morons who think the GAU-8A 30mm rotary gun is the greatest thing ever to be put into the sky would drop real $$$ to buy one for the Brrrrrrrts.

[@JWQweqOPDH]

"Ablative armor" No such thing in WoT. Non-penetrating shots don't make following shots any more likely to pen. You could put the skink in the game, but at tier III it would be similar to the Pz II J which everyone hates. The closest thing at tier V is that Polish medium that has a 40mm Bofors stock. The Leo has a 30mm stock but it's primarily a scout.

[@DeeEight]

@@JWQweqOPDH Except, this is wargamming. THEY WILL alter the rules and game mechanics of the game to introduce something at a different tier level, or outright make shit up, especially if its premium content they want to sell. They eliminated weak spots on tanks to force folks into using gold ammo to kill things. The difference in WoT of penetration values regular AP to premium APCR for the 20mm on that Pz II is double (23/46mm), when in the real world... it was 23mm at 100 meters / 14mm at 500 meters for the AP and 40mm at 100m / 20mm at 500m for the APCR. In any case, the armor of the Pz II J is such that even with the gold ammo two of them wouldn't be able to kill one another now that they eliminated weak spots. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4CremqpnKeLn8U

[@RedXlV]

A better option for WoT would be the T52 MGMC, a Sherman hull with a ball turret mounting a 40mm Bofors (and a pair of .50 cal on the sides, but those would purely cosmetic in WoT). For that matter, post-WW2 armored vehicles with the Bofors 40mm L/70 and 57mm L/60 could be used to bring autocannon gameplay to high tiers.

[@juusolatva]

Gaijin did add Skink to War Thunder and it's just as bad against tanks as you would imagine, but it's decent against aircraft. there are other anti-air vehicles that can shred tanks too, which are a better choice. anyway WT does have its own problems due to the aircraft, which bring with them fun things like revenge-bombing and having to deal with close-air support in tank battles.

[@AllanRowland]

Becasuse you asked for it, coming to WoT are 8 autocannon vehicles and a multi-rocket launcher.

[@Vespuchian]

This merely confirms my opinion that you could make a game similar to WoT/WarThunder and populate it with entirely fictional vehicles from fictional nations. As long as the gameplay works, it'll have a market.

[@SRDPS2]

5:50 8:55 "They sure can do what every other tank in the game can do" - Zwhatsh, wheel that can't turn

[@paoloviti6156]

Interesting, as you pointed out quite a few mistakes they did, and this is fine, but you have pointed out that the players weren't much capable of handling the auto-cannon and I was surprised because the gunner/commander has to just press a button to select the right ammo! Could you enlighten me?

[@armouredarchives8867]

ir was more that WG felt players would see 30mm as a downgrade. they think players only want to see bigger guns every tier and wont understand that small autocnnons have a role.

[@mitchverr9330]

@@armouredarchives8867 Which is mind boggling. I suspect that the players that would be turned off by a RARDEN are players that will not play the line anyway, big gun or not.

[@paoloviti6156]

@@armouredarchives8867 thanks for replying!

[@RedXlV]

@@armouredarchives8867 Which is yet another example of Wargaming's ignorance of their own playerbase. There's plenty of people who enjoy the low-tier autocannon tanks and would love to see high-tier autocannons as well. As far as dropping the radar from the British wheeled line, though? My guess is more that after the very negative reaction to the French wheelies (the reason it's taken so much longer than originally planned for the British ones), Wargaming is scared of another backlash and wants to make these wheelies play as much like regular tanks as possible.

[@bondhesh7372]

​@@armouredarchives8867 Did they forget why the bulldog was so fun back in the day ?

[@solreaver83]

Awesome video and a new vehicle for me. I'm curious as you have so much involvement with wot I'm wondering do you do the same for war thunder? GAIJIN seem to think the Brits never developed anything resembling a light tank or much of anything and act surprised when something is suggested. You clearly know of way more stuff then I and know they could have a tree double the size rivleing the other big 3. Curious on your thoughts.

[@armouredarchives8867]

i offered them the whole lot for free, about 1tb of documantation on a fast load of stuff, somebody called Smin or something like that said no, they were not interested, and that was that

[@solreaver83]

@Armoured Archives fukn sm1n. What a tool. I wish the uk would make a game like warthunder. I'm so annoyed with this british inferiority meta/history they try to engineer at wargaming and gaijin. Thank you for all your hard work, doing the things I wish I could do. Keep it up

[@iatsd]

@@solreaver83 To be fair, a lot of British vehicles *were* utter shite at/by the time they were introduced. But at the same time, there were also a *LOT* of vehicles and while a good percentage were shite, an awul lot more were entirely workable and some were world leading at the time they were introduced. The wheeled line should have been a chance for WG to introdue a hysterically amusing line that alternated across good and simply ridiculous. From the Rolls Royce Armoured Car through to the Marmon Herrington's to the Humber series to the completre AEC series on upwards through to the Saladin and Fox and later design proposals that could slot into the highest tiers. Throw in some "what-if" gun and engine options at each tier to give players options that work across tiers and you'd have a great line. And yet what have they done? Ignored ACTUAL vehicles and over time removed IRL options from the few real/design vehicles they do have in the game. The new line is simply going to be a stunted incapable shadow of what it should be.

[@nightshade4873]

Gaijin doesn't understand doctrine, like the Cromwell is meant to be used as a light tank due to it's role as a Cruiser Tank, and not in the same sense Medium tank doctrines of other nations during the 2nd World War. they can't understand automotive stuff like gearing (see churchill), don't expect them to understand things outside of what WG/WoT has established.

[@TheGreatSteve]

I had great fun with British auto-cannons in the lower tiers of WOT.

[@ptonpc]

Ah WG, What you could be if you ever sobered up! I can understand your annoyance. Out of curiosity, I noticed the towers for the indicator and running lights appear to have holes on the side. Why would that be? My vehicle (built in the 60s and modded in service) has light towers but no holes on the side, it's not as if they are needed to equalise pressure or save weight.

[@garyburns2831]

Great vid as always wish I could up load you a pic of my otter LAC restoration

[@user-nh1xg3tn2s]

As usual, WG screwed up something again...And,will you introduce the Corinthian light tank? I found this car in a community album,I think that intro is from your article, but I can't find it on the internet.

[@armoureddiver5262]

Are you sure the World of Tanks team did not formally work for the UK Procurement Executive? They seem to be about as effective as the MoD was at devising equipment that a. met a 'real' operational requirement b. was capable of being built, fielded and operated c. would have met the needs of the crews in combat.

[@johnkelley9877]

This was really interesting and I mean the real vehicle. The game vehicle looks plausible but why not make it and give it a different name and number? I agree, it does look like an AMX-10RC. Thanks for sharing this. I always enjoy and learn from your tutorials.

[@stoob.5767]

i would be down to see you breakdown alot more of the fake stuff in wot as a sort of repository of correct knowledge but i assume you have better things to do

[@Bane_Diesel]

Interesting that you said mph. For the speed. Didn’t expect freedom units.

[@hydrolox3953]

As a WoT player, I hate the fact that WoT just has no real competition in its genre. So they can pull shit like this, and get away with it, because there is no competition. Concerning the radars: passive scouting in WoT is useless until the endgame on a majority of maps, because said majority of maps consists of city/CQC maps, and in open maps, camping is a big issue because of TDs and Artillery, specifically artillery, because of the stun and crew/module damage associated with getting hit by it. In summary: I hate WGs Monopoly on the WW2 arcade tank shooter genre, and more powerful passive scouting would make open maps even bigger campfests than they already are.

[@nightshade4873]

Jesus, i just got a small positivy to even try returning to WoT (PC and Blitz), but dayum did things become so bad that even blended subway sandwiches would be a thing. Wargaming is like the kind of person to grab a cup of water by dipping their hands inside.

[@luvr381]

WoT is so realistic, I want a Bolo.

[@NakiriX1]

if youre referring to a bolo tank we technically get those in the halloween mode as the immortal

Very interesting vehicle.

[@hydrolox3953]

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[@RetroGamesCollector]

Brutal

[@Pr.Wyvern]

WG should hire you to so when they have to add new tech trees or premium tank those tanks have historical context

[@NakiriX1]

theres a problem, armoured archives doesnt understand that the game isnt a sim and has to be balanced accordingly so he will fight to put 600mm of armour on a tank when its at tier 8

[@WanderlustZero]

Demolished! Brilliant.

[@DivineDawn]

Oh WG you so silly! The speed is deliberate as players expressed alarm at more fucking ebr type vehicles, which zoom around the battlefield at 90mph and have a commander that was obviously a circus entertainer previously, as when they get hit, all that happens is they get a flat tyre, the commander brakes out the bike pump mid turn while hanging off the side if the vehicle and boom there back in action.

[@JayFochs1337]

I wish they'd just add a disclaimer that the backstory is fake or even exaggerated. Sure, gimme some lore on a fake tank, just make sure we know it's fake 😂

[@armouredarchives8867]

yeah. - description: Me and sergi pulled this out our arses high on coke one evening. - would suffice

[@watcherzero5256]

Can someone turn on the lights? so much Shade thrown at Wargaming I cant see thing...lol

[@danielaguirre2516]

At this point WG is just making up tanks as they go, to fill in the gaps in the tech trees or to make money by selling a made up premium tank.

[@theonlymann1485]

some say its a french 6x6 instead lol. anyways, for "historical accruacy", while its accruate that you should be tryign to respect it, especially if one is a very well known game with some aspect to historical accruacy. that said, sadly WG has walked away from such- which i can respect, but least they could've tell what stuff is created and not lol

[@armouredarchives8867]

exactly. dont rry to pass of fakes as reall, or add to stuff, 'one made' etc etc.

[@michaelguerin56]

You had a lot of fun here, didn’t you😂!

[@adamrodaway1074]

If all else fails, stick a Swingfire on it!

[@Simon_Nonymous]

There must be a record somewhere for the biggest number of Swingfires to be put on a vehicle. I bet BAe were all set to buy a different Porsche for each day of the week if these had been approved for service.

[@ironwolfF1]

Regardless of the vehicle's power plant, I'm guessing they nerfed the top speed since they already have a speedy wheeled recce vehicle...much to the annoyance of most WG players.

[@dcummings7253]

Why does WoT refuse to put SdKfz 234 Puma in the game? A real WW2 wheeled vehicle.

[@armouredarchives8867]

they know it will pull in all the boos, so wait till they get a big sump in sales, then they will wheel em out - no pun intended

[@dcummings7253]

@@armouredarchives8867 Probably right.

[@TheRagingStorm98]

All they had to do was give us the Rooikat & Rooikat 105

[@jagervonweebs610]

with how gimmick heavy warships is, i have no idea why wargaming thinks that players cannot figure out how to use a new system

[@10kimk.2combatprotogen9]

At this point scrap the vehicle Wargaming made and just add the alvis saladin! 6 wheeles a cannon and light

[@devinbyrnes8058]

World of Tanks is an Arcade Shooter, not a simulation. Who cares if it is historically accurate? It only matters if it is cool and fun.

[@CthulhuInc]

is it any wonder i'll still just play panzer commander? lol

[@DarkestVampire92]

So basically... It was meant to be a quantum leap in ground combat, but Wargaming decided to strip all of its modern features and just made it a boring british version of the EBR or AMX 10 instead. Because clearly they looked at this and didnt see the radar, missiles, autoloader, etc.

[@armouredarchives8867]

yup

[@nekophht]

Dropped autocannon options because they felt players too stupid to realize they'd still be useful and bigger isn't better. Gee, I wonder how players got that idea - could it be how tanks got tiered based on gun size and gun damage was based on caliber, and higher tiers would get bigger guns than previous tiers nearly every time alongside the increase in HP per tier? Of course, OTOH, we have AW, where MBT players at one point heavily complained that autocannons were piercing their side/rear armor. And the radar thing... They think players are smart enough for siege mode, but not radar toggle? OTOH, I can't really fault them for deleting missiles off turrets/hulls since they've done a decent job not introducing ATGMs into the PC game thus far. But not even keep the turret design otherwise?

[@RedXlV]

My guess for their reason of not doing radar is the same reason it's taken so long for Wargaming to implement British wheeled vehicles at all: the backlash against the French wheeled vehicles. I'm betting they decided they're going to make the British wheelies as conventional as possible, without any new mechanics, because they figure players will be more accepting of that. If so, they've probably got a point. Players as a whole *will* be less likely to accept a potentially powerful new mechanic if it's added to wheeled vehicles rather than if the exact same mechanic is implemented on a line of "proper" tanks. Entirely because the French wheelies are so widely seen as toxic, and thus the very idea of wheeled vehicles in World of Tanks is now controversial.

[@iberiksoderblom]

Since when has anything that includes even a slight sniff of Russian, had any concerns about the truth?

[@JayFochs1337]

All the small gun, dpm players in WoT hearing this video just 😢

[@goaway7346]

It's an RNG controlled game. They can't use RNG to rig the games if reality and skill are allowed anywhere near it.

[@Ulani101]

So, WG at its finest. Take the concept, screw up even the name, and bugger the rest six ways from Sunday. No surprise there, unfortunately. 😳

[@ricardoaugusto2333]

WoFT - World of Fantasy Tanks

[@leonardo-m2524]

for me is funny sometimes wargameing add someting to wot and in a few monts we se the same thing in war thunder at least with the strumtiger and french armored cars

[@comentedonakeyboard]

Somehow this erm "british" vehicle has a certain french je ne sais quois.

[@Mr_Bunk]

So…why the hell do you still work for them again, if they have so little respect for your diligent research work?

[@johngreen-sk4yk]

I imagine they pay well, sometimes you just have to take the money and run like the Chieftain does .WOT has never been anything more than an arcade game, I definitely wouldn't class it as a sim

[@Mr_Bunk]

@@johngreen-sk4yk I can’t imagine there’s anything stopping a ‘World of Tanks Researcher’ from just sending Wargaming some photocopies of chocolate wrappers after spending the last fortnight at the pub and binge-watching ‘Suits’. They pay no attention to what’s submitted anyway, so why bother putting in any effort?

[@Sleepy.Time.]

id imagine he is in more of a consultant role than as an employee so think of it as like why your dentist still accepts your appointments when he knows full well you do not brush or floss... he gets paid either way

[@armouredarchives8867]

I don’t anymore! - Freeedom. and yes, a consultant you have no real say in what they do at the end of the day. they would sometimes ask what x or y did, or ask for help in a mechanic their end, but mostly they just wanted the images, text, and info, which would be thousands of pages. There were a few good people, like the chap I reported too. but once you peeled back the skin to management level, they were thoroughly incompetent, had no interest in what players wanted, often just referring to them as thick and placed profit above all else.

[@FairladyS130]

Yes, the real problem with these game made up AFV.s is that a lot of the gamers come to think that they were real. They then get on forums and start spouting their nonsense, it's soooo annoying.

[@jarigustafsson7620]

More like World of Autoloaders with Speed & 800dmg gold ammo.

[@mosconisadepto6172]

Oh shut up, WG is 100% legit, Italy won ww2 with an average wn8 of 2k thanks to the hordes of progetto 46 pawning enemies here and there, so good that they completed 279e campaign alone.

[@hydrolox3953]

Thanks for the comedy

[@blusoda0021]

Im both surprised and shocked he plays WoT

[@timheywood7521]

So they irritated you once too often?

[@chrisrowland1514]

Don't give them Ideas , Radar on Tanks😂😂😂

[@michaelmulligan0]

Wargaming slated for redesigning a vehicle that never entered service

[@armouredarchives8867]

wargaming slated for redesigning real proposals and then trying to pass that off as truth

[@michaelmulligan0]

@@armouredarchives8867 fair enough

[@stretch3281]

Only people of 4' 12" or less need apply for combat in this vehicle 😂

[@allanrowland130]

I'm 6 foot tall and have been crew on a Ferret and a Scorpion. Also an M41 bulldog. No problem.

[@oddball_the_blue]

After watching this video you get the idea that maybe.... just maybe you're less than impressed with Wargaming... Not 100% convinced though.

[@dy031101]

Normally I love look-alikes and life-scale kitbashes, but total fabrications like this don't really do it for me.

[@armouredarchives8867]

its not total, the paperwork and original pans are all real projects. - what WG have produced is however mostly fake

[@wbnc66]

I was commissioned to illustrate this for a fellow. my work was not great ..I was just starting...but having seen the design docs it is all made up.

[@michaelgautreaux3168]

Stop @ 3:18. All I'm seeing is AMX-10 RC.

[@mosesracal6758]

Im pretty sure WG is just a kitbasher's dream

[@parrot849]

Now wait a minute…, Ya don’t suppose they bungled all this you’ve pointed out, on purpose; in some fiendish master plan in cooperation with MOD in an organized effort to confuse the sh*t out of the “real-world” Russians as to what true developmental stages have taken place to properly produce a state of the art wheeled AFV!? 🤣

[@aceofhearts573]

War thunder is better