GTA 3 - Who was Darkel? [Removed Character] - Feat. SWEGTA

In this video we will be looking at the cut character by the name of "Darkel". Rumors state he was a crazy bum, who wanted to see Liberty City in flames and terror by giving you various weird and controversial missions. Sadly, a few months before the game release, he was cut.
I tried to show you everything what I managed to find. As a bonus, we will bust a few myths. Let's close this topic once and for all. I hope, you will enjoy it!
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[@NationalPepper]

*Do you have a magazine with a GTA series article?* I would be very grateful if you could scan or photograph me your issue. These GTA articles usually have a lot of interesting stuff inside. If you think that your article is uninteresting, contact me anyways. Be aware, that I don't care if your issue is not written in English. If I use your scans or other materials in a video, I will give you a shout-out. This would be my special thanks to you. If you have something awesome or a lot of articles, I would be happy to give you an early access of my upcoming video (or even videos) absolutely for free. Do you have GTA press kit or non-English GTA version? Contact me here *([e-mail])* Thanks in advance!

[@TKMachine007]

Vadim M since gta series didnt make yet a gta lcs vcs iv.... can you do the beta of gta iv please

[@ogsheldonakajone6721]

Vadim M Any News About Bully 2? :/

[@MrStuniz96]

So sad this character was cut, he is like, the creepy version of The Truth gta sa lol.

[@MrStuniz96]

Btw he is not the only creepy guy in Liberty city there is that bodyguard of Salvatore Leone, who give you the mission where you need to kill some chainsaw psichos.

[@dangduong1581]

awsome video.Keep up for more video :)

[@jerredlong1023]

Darkel was too busy teaching kids how to fight in exchange for radio parts to contact the mothership.

[@ninthworks5525]

Rocket Rangoon Bully 😁

[@shinkenger2011]

this is my official headcanon now

[@GTACIP]

underrated comment

[@anonymoususer7117]

Bully/gta sa lol

[@SteveFergen]

Umm it’s from… never mind

[@seriousnorbo3838]

Bigfoot? Ghosts? Aliens? Ratman? Nah, Darkel is the true mystery of GTA.

[@JohnFortniteKennedy_]

What about the disappearance of scooter brothers

[@PlutoTheSynth]

Doug Rattman?

[@PolarisCastillo]

Mt. Chiliad

[@cj-dawg4184]

What about goatman from GTA V

[@8900Kane]

what about piggsy from gta sa

[@killazspain]

Great investigation! :)

[@jorgecaimanque6951]

killazspain Killaz! Has pensado hacer un video tratando temas así en tu canal?

[@KevinGomez-fz1yg]

:$ Estaría bien

[@mato32dx223]

+killazspain No pensaba verte aquí! :)

[@GrumpyCat97]

well of course dodo wasn't meant to fly or els why would rockstar let you to fly around the city that don't have roofs

[@Gasoline85]

Exactly. Plus, when you get to a certain height they aren't even solid if I remember correctly.

[@JF930H]

Parts of the Love Media roof where the cutscenes took place were solid.

[@TheLuca2001]

@@JF930H Similarly, the roof of the Portland hospital is solid.

[@tobe1207]

Plus it's named after the dodo

[@midge_gender_solek3314]

It's not hard to code a working plane, it's hard to remake the entire map to make it suitable to fly around

[@EmrehanGokcay]

Rockstar Games: "Darkel was just a crazy bum and he gives you crazy missions. And we thought he couldn't fit with game dynamics" Also Rockstar Games: *Adds Trevor as main character*

[@rocky-zx6kq]

And also rockstar made cj bury someone in concrete

[@Spencer_232]

@@rocky-zx6kqif you listen to the in game radio, it tells that the construction worker was rescued. Still what cj did was crazy.

[@Penoatle]

@@Spencer_232 Naw dude, the foreman is dead.

[@xSpicySaltx]

Also them: Lets make Manhunt

[@GK-qu1jx]

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[@atothed84]

If I'm not mistaken, I think you can play as Darkel by entering the pedestrian code a bunch of times. There's even a female pedestrian that doesn't appear anywhere else in the game that can be played as. Now, keep in mind, I'm going by memory here, but that Darkel model looks familiar.

[@sadmankhan9630]

That Darkel model is taken from the creepy old man model.

[@pseudogiant6504]

I have a theory. Just look at the GTA 2 rampage missions, see the guy at the lower left of the screen? I think that's Darkel. I think when Rockstar started developing GTA 3 they decided to make the rampages to be given by that same man but this time they gave him an identity: Darkel. What do you think Vadim? I would like to hear your opinion about this.

[@anijeepa]

Impossible,characters from the 2d universe cant appear in the 3d

[@tehwatermeloon865]

@@anijeepa Why?

[@thecoolcatsproductions8034]

Well, Rockstar wanted Gta 3 to be in same universe as the 2D universe, hinting why theirs Zaibatsu posters in older screenshots and the graphics are like cartoony sorta like the 2D universe. So chances are they wanted more stuff from the 2D universe Like the 7 gangs from gta 2 in that interview, and the most likely wanted to gta 2 rampage guy have a identity.

[@spartankongcountry6799]

@EchoStorm I doubt that their universe divergence was planned during gta 3's development.

[@censoredeeznuts]

@EchoStorm Point is they said it after the release of GTA 3, after Darkel was already removed from the game. If he was the GTA 2 guy, they wouldn't be lying since he still isn't in the 3D universe

[@MrMario2011]

Would boomshine technically be making a return? Vice City took place in the 80s while as GTA3 took place in 2001 :p Either way - Solid video!

[@NationalPepper]

In this case, yes it's it doesn't make any sense, but not if we look at the release dates :P

[@jeffreymalinowski4091]

Head Cannon: Darkel was never "real", he was a character in the game with a model and voice actor, but he's just a figment of Claude’s imagination, a manifestation of Claude’s violent nature

[@IntrusiveCuckholeGenerator]

there is no violent nature in him (who's "claude" btw? never heard of him), he just goes with the flow all the time and that's kinda cool nihilistic tingle in the story if you ask me

[@GraggleSimpson4ever]

@@IntrusiveCuckholeGenerator Claude is an 1800 fishing vessel

[@blackbeast9268]

@@IntrusiveCuckholeGenerator you didn't really provide any arguments . You just said it's bad because it's nihlsitic tingle (and it isn't nihlsitic at all. Claud isn't supposed to be a good guy). The game is literally named after a felony

[@IntrusiveCuckholeGenerator]

@@blackbeast9268 just play the game one more time or at least try to read my comment, I'll pray for you

[@sadmankhan9630]

​@@blackbeast9268 Claude is a bad guy. But he only cares about money. He is the most evil and psychotic protagonist. He is also the coldest and doesn't care about anything unless you respect him or give him money or stay out of his way. But if you are his target, your life is doomed because he is coming with his shotgun and M16.

[@bl4ckw1ngz64]

Darkel's lines are more fascinating. He has a voice credit but no lines surfaced over the years?

[@charlottepaterson6354]

So even though Darkel wasn't in the game, parts of him still linger on like the i scream you scream mission and rampages.

[@GovernorRiffRaff]

Seriously. We know they changed the first responders to not resemble NY after 9/11 but we’re suppose to pretend this dude still left in the game files wasn’t cut because of 9/11 lol. I don’t get it

[@spartankongcountry6799]

@@GovernorRiffRaff Rockstar gave reasons why he was cut. 9/11 was not it.

[@GovernorRiffRaff]

Spartan Kong Country yea okay you buy the governments line on that one. Nope not me. The governments lied to me before, have you ever heard of the gulf on Tonkin incident? I was a former Governor, a fighter, a navy seal, I was on the inside. And even they won’t let me go inside a woman’s restroom, why? What are they trying to hide? well I’m here to get to the bottom Of it.

[@spartankongcountry6799]

@@GovernorRiffRaff Lol that has nothing to do with rockstar.

[@TheMelvinV]

@@GovernorRiffRaff Dude did you escape from mental level?

[@qr2qm]

children: bigfoot legends: *darkel*

[@scenariiecranizatecu]

When i was little i had a magazine with Darkel's Involvement in future GTA Games ''Darkel was always the player invisioned. The need to go on random rampages, a version of him is someway portraied in GTA I AND II. In GTA III , Darkel gives you missions such as ''Minimum Bureaucracy'' Darkel can be found at the trail railways and can be used as a quest giver. It involves takeing the train for the first time in GTA III and serves as an introduction, however Darkel ties a politician to the tracks and Claude is forced to watch as the train he took splashes the Politician. We all love the upcoming GTA: San Andreas and are excited to see what role he will play in side the gangster riddled world of San Andreas.'' It was a very knock off magazine that contained loads like this but for now this is all i can find by googling it. It was called ''Risky'' and it was a gaming magazine that used to leak information about upcoming games and trailers.

[@jeanpoliko]

I don't know if I said it before, but I love this channel

[@nobody1510]

Sube videoooooo

[@GenmaTheDestroyer]

Too evil, dark and gruesome? We helped lure Marty Chonk's wife in and she got ground into dog food. You even hear when she realizes what's about to happen and yells 'Stop'. *Schlrch*

[@AlexisStreams]

Remember what happened to Casa

[@patcharadanaichanchei4270]

Gta 2 have mission hot dog homicide.

[@malletUsergaming]

Your over looking it, you never lured her in, she chose to.

[@GenmaTheDestroyer]

@@malletUsergaming She was delivered thinking she was just going to spend talk with Marty, her husband. She most definitely did not 'choose' to get ground into dog food.

[@MisterAki43]

Love the fact that there is a channel out there that does such in-depth stuff for a game as old (and as good) as GTA 3.

[@MarshallMathersthe7th]

The tunnel you mentioned was supposed to be or an entrance to Darkel. The missions that where deleted where most likely replaced into the rampages spread along the island. That is what i think.

[@IntrusiveCuckholeGenerator]

exactly, that's how the rampages were born - the whole concept of rampages throughout the 3D era came solely from one cut character

[@Xegethra]

I have an idea how he could have been a rampage icon. Maybe unlike the rampages we got, because he is a man he would only be in one spot at a time, find him and do the mission. The rampages were multiple over the map,although they did move location if you failed them, maybe Darkel was gonna do that too I dunno. Or there were going to be multiple Darkels standing around because that's what video games do sometimes.

[@lemagreengreen]

I never really bought the idea that the Dodo wasn't meant to be flown. I remember when GTA3 came out and we found the Dodo, getting it flying took about two minutes of experimenting and it didn't ever seem like exploiting a bug or anything, it was clearly just made to be difficult to fly but certainly not impossible to do and the technique isn't really a bug. From what has been said it seems to me that Darkel was probably seen as just a bit too much which is saying something in a game as controversial as GTA3.

[@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565]

well I think that DMA design (aka Rockstar North) was actually planning to make planes drivable in GTA 3, because like you said, the dodo has a weird contro,scheme to fly, but it can fly once you get the hang of it, but because it was their first 3D gta and they either didnt have enough time to finish the flying mechanics or had to scrap it for being too difficult to implement. they scrapped the entire concept, but left some working code on the dodo and didn't bother to erase it and instead cut its wings and call it "deaddodo", justifying why you shouldn't be able to fly it. They also probably scrapped the flying mechanic because of the GTA 3 map not being fully modeled for flying in the first place, if the player was able to fly then he would see a lot of unfinished areas around the top of the buildings. So yeah, TL;DR: It is possible that they were working on the concept of claude being able to fly a plane like the skimmer in Vice City, but it was cut due to either being too time consuming to implement or they couldnt get it right.

[@raylee8820]

When will the gta liberty city stories beta analysis be uploaded ?

[@NationalPepper]

I am not interested in this game nor completed it, sadly.

[@eduardedy322]

Vadim M then do GTA IV pls

[@napaceHbIK]

Not interested? Why?? To me, it was very nostalgic and interesting to see how the city and the characters changed from GTA 3 - I smiled in the 1st 10 minutes of the game when I saw my first safehouse, a building that was in ruins in GTA 3. How can this be not interesting to you as a researcher whose entire channel is dedicated to comparisons? No, I'm not asking for 3 vc LCS comparsion, I just mean even seeing the obvious differences between these two games is interesting, and imagine what you could do with your finding beta material and stuff skills.

[@zerO-fn8oe]

napaceHbIK watch GTA Series hot topic, they made a video about GTA:LCS but unfortunately there weren’t many interesting beta content (well imo)

[@chineseboxingstylekanye7147]

gta: lcs was a good game it was a much better refined 3, and deserves a video fam

[@Kurty94]

Really great compilation of all info about Darkel! Also I didn't know about the alpha 8-ball model left-overs! Looks really close to the render!

[@user-vb1bs8le3g]

Bill FIore's lost voice lines are the real mystery and darkels missions and role in story

[@sammy61187]

Darkel would of been extremely interesting sucks they cut him out

[@Heat7208]

They removed Darkel because there was a mission where you have to destroy school bus maybe there are kids in there who knows? And it was at the time of where 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center.

[@Heat7208]

If they keep that mission then GTA 3 would be the last Rockstar Game will ever make.

[@DCF530_]

@@Heat7208 you did not pay attention because when he mentions that he also said that Dan Houser denied their being a mission to blow up kids in a school bus. His character got scrapped because he did not mash well with the other characters.

[@aspirewot8408]

@@Heat7208 Did you even watch the video lol dumbass

[@lcmiracle]

@@Heat7208 He was right not to

[@KevinsYouTube]

Thanks so much for making these videos. I'm always on the look out for old magazines and anything I can that might aid in the quest for beta knowledge. All we can hope is that someone at Rockstar realises that a lot of people care - and maybe throws us a bone someday.

[@noctowl4823]

you can fly a dodo but is very hard to learn it in gta III

[@ogsheldonakajone6721]

Noctowl IKR

[@GrumpyCat97]

whats the point?

[@noctowl4823]

i used dodo too to find ghost town

[@noctowl4823]

GrandTheftBoy ! ok

[@Daasisjqh]

I tried...flew 8 seconds 8 inches into the air...fell.

[@jhonatanseminario]

¡Gracias por subtitular tus videos al español!

[@scornax]

Pero el que lo hace soy yo :'v

[@jhonatanseminario]

scornax Te amo.

[@BladeStrike]

Who knows. If his missions were based around these terrorist acts, Rockstar would never admit to it as it would hurt them further.

[@theroundone4943]

Zeng Vuh idk. Blowing up citizens is pretty terroristy

[@Bahraini_Carguy]

Illinois Umm...okay??

[@haoweishi5538]

Agreed, back then people’s attitudes are much less liberal towards video games in general than they are today.

[@MrGEORGETHOMPS]

No it’s just a game

[@justinhopper5941]

It could of been. A bunch of things were changed in the game before it’s release because of 9/11

[@qbert8695]

As we all know, the majority of game mechanics in GTA 3 are introduced to the player in the mission, be that driving, buying weapons, scoped shooting with sniper rifle, rigging a car with a bomb and so on. I guess, Darkel supposed to be a character that explains Rampage mechanic to the player, so one of his missions (perhaphs a very first) was dedicated to it.

[@bluvsred9266]

I love that GTA IV tune, but i don't remember myself hearing this tune while playing da game.

[@theonlyplain]

Izza cut wasted theme song in IV.

[@eschaton7813]

GTA III, I feel, is the most-underrated GTA. It's a personal favorite. Interesting video.

[@hiddendesire3076]

If only he was brought over to GTA V. Could just imagine him being a character who would be a bum in Sandy Shores near Trevor. Could even see him being a wacko who could supply Trevor with some of his more illicit goods. Maybe Ron would voice his concerns over Trevor’s association with him, but would be told off. Maybe in terms of outfit Darkel could instead be wearing some old army fatigues and have a missing leg which would be replaced with a prosthetic. His madness could be attributed to shell shock.

[@thebrownbearstudio]

Just uploaded, great vid man

[@oldmandanker463]

Just new in this channel, and I played GTAIII a month ago! Thanks for the great info!

[@8900Kane]

now sounds like not new...right?

[@AndrewVasirov]

I love when you do upload new informations related to the betas! :)

[@ChiefWombatCuddler]

Darkel was clearly inspired by Fight Club, since the movie came out right around that timeframe I can't tell if it was due to it or the book. Also I do believe the Love Hurts myth, Rockstar has been caught lying blatantly about cut features from their games due to controversy, plus it helps connect the dots over Donald Love's disappearance.

[@oldmandanker463]

I Got a theory. Remember the cutscene "Love's Disappearance"? So there was a said mission of Darkel that says to fly the Dodo to his large home. Maybe Darkel really told us players to kill him if Darkel really exists, then that is why Love disappeared.

[@valyxevanylla]

could you please do a Manhunt series analysis?

[@robertbrunello]

Great video. GTA 3 is my fav and a gem!

[@fsd502]

great video man! , great video

[@relewave]

Woah! But if Darkel missions were deleted why El Burro's one are available to play and restarts themselves if you leave Portland?I mean, come on, Burro's missions are violent too, not like "Darkel ones" but still violent.

[@twatinternetcafe923]

Amazing. You just uploaded it, i love your content!

[@CLOWNBOT00]

*Sweet collaboration!*

[@EverythingAboutGTA3]

A new video by VadimM, yeah! Thanks for always touching interesting topics from GTA3. Keep it up!

[@neandrewthal]

I used to be good at flying the dodo and landed it on top of the Lovemedia building and was able to check out the Japanese garden you see in the cutscenes. Very interesting to hear you were supposed to destroy that building by crashing a dod into it...especially given the timing of the game's release.

[@Fulllife3.2]

He literally said that that was just a rumour in the video.

[@geckomkii3916]

I have a copy of GTA 3 on disk for the PC and when I install it and load into a game when I go to the options screen I can't see anything, does anyone know of a fix or why it does this?

[@thearousedeunuch]

Try running it on compatibility mode.

[@Xsiniti]

I thought this guy only do bully videos I'm surprised that he's talking about GTA 3

[@scope66]

Wow, thanks for the investigation. So much great content, subscribing to your channel right now.

[@user-vb1bs8le3g]

the el burro missions were once given by darkel along other missions

[@johnsondemon6073]

Where to find the full resolution pictures of these at 5:11?

[@MaxerV19]

Your outro is:Gta 4 wasted music,right?

[@CasualSteamGamer]

Darkel's icecream van mission probably got cut to due 9/11

[@dogwithplasticwheels5476]

The darkel ice cream bomb truck mission reminds me of a 2nd part Yakuza mission from Johnny Zoo

[@Cooperal]

The first time I saw Darkel was three years before GTA III. He was a talking tree in a Zelda game. What the hell happened in that time?

[@Cooperal]

@@veckstocks9710 This was long before then. It was childhood. Between the ages of 8 and 11 when all of this was still new.

[@user-vb1bs8le3g]

curtis mclaren is also a myth (Curtlys voice from gta 3 another cut carachter)

[@theunkillablecat8458]

Darkel has to be the Coolest Looking Character in Gta 3 sad he got removed

[@marklarizzle]

Yep, I been drinkin again.

[@tschau92]

lol

[@alinek2289]

4:14 That could explain Donald Love's unknown disappearance

[@altairwisdom58]

Maybe Love disappearance has indirect relationship with darkel. Maybe darkel was the one who killed love but not with the help Of Claude Speed but by some other means and this happened behind the shadows while we only see the glimpse of love dissappeance. Maybe developers included that useless mission as compensation for the blind spot after the removal darkel?

[@iscream2536]

in gta liberty city stories there is a rampage mission where you kill peds with a chainsaw

[@ix83123x]

It always made sense that they cut him after 911. And they wouldn't admit that even later to not draw any heat to gta, because they already had a lot of problems with this franchise, probably everyone remembers San Andreas problems with ESRB rating after they discovered that there are unused files in a game and "terrorist like missins" would calssify also as... Adult Only. Disappearance of Donald Love in GTA 3 is somewhat weird, and unexplained, it feels like there is a hole in the plot. That's why it always made sense that the mission would be to end him. And Dodo supposedly never should fly, but somehow it does. It's not that players used bugs to make it fly, the vehicle actually behaves like it was meant to fly, otherwise we would be having players figure out how to fly cars.

[@LilyEmbargo]

Theory: The Bullet Proof Patriot was originally meant to be given by Darkel.

[@exile9024]

great now i want someone to mod him back into the game and give him a extensive background lore that connects him to those rampage missions and to have someone re-do the opening bridge explosion but with the dodo crashing into it instead.

[@ssj2rhandy]

dude i love ur videos keep it up

[@kawii9793]

From the Point of a GTA fan, you'r Videos are just freaking amazing work and stunning research. Thank You a lot for bringing these informations in a that well made Video! You're great, keep up the work!

[@josipprekratic]

Great video, thanks. :)

[@user-vb1bs8le3g]

rampages were also given by Darkel

[@c.pissoff5389]

I bet darkel's bonuses that only he had, were the secondary weapons that were introduced in vice city

[@blockman9961]

Maybe He Had the land mine

[@StarDustTF2]

SWEGTA? Sheldon will going to find Darkel and will Kick you in the Kneecaps

[@ChallengerV8]

Dodo wasn't meant to fly, but flying vehicle could have different name instead. And when they cut off the wings - they renamed it Dodo. And I don't believe Dan Houser's quote about these mission weren't even finished. A few months before release it's time to polish the game, fix some bugs, optimise. And not to leave a couple of missions undone.

[@tim3172]

I'm sorry but you clearly know nothing about video game development. Rockstar (and most major companies) use a concept called 'crunch' where up until the last days or hours they're making changes. It's incredibly naïve to assume that games are effectively complete "months" before release with just polishing and bug fixes required. You can see some of the beta videos that were less than 2 months away from the full release with major changes having been made between that and release.

[@Pendleton115]

I always wondered what was with the tramps in the tunnel

Rockstar: Removes an asset for looking like shit. Modders: But what does this MEAN? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@aigamefights1615]

I'd love to imagine a GTA game where homeless people are just destroying the town overtime, it puts a whole new dynamic on GTA differentiating from the typical Gang/Mafia ties. Plus it could set up for some amazing missions

[@aldagusta8625]

Love ur vids!

[@motley17cru]

great videos, please do some like this for vice city!!

[@user-vb1bs8le3g]

gta 3 had peds in rampages in beta like in gta 1 and 2 not gang members

[@PGHLFan399]

They turned darkel into the collectible in the cave

[@76adit]

WOW... You guys rock at making these videos!

[@Artiomiz]

So basically, i assume darkel was just a beta idea for these rampage missions, later scrapped, and instead of character development its idea was used as side mission content. if thats the case, then its uh... pretty shallow of rockstar for that time.

[@djclovkal1.010]

Elvis has left the building! *WASTED*

[@user-vb1bs8le3g]

the hobos were Darkels gang

[@cubic6445]

I will never go near an ice cream truck ever again!

[@MSORP2008]

One of his missions was to get a dodo and fly it in to love media killing dl that means that parasurts were going to be in the game

[@Video-nd6vi]

MTslim Rockstar words: "the dodo was never meant to be flown"

[@Borat199123456]

I believe rockstar is lying about this.

[@RetroJourneyCreators]

What's the source for the video at 8:40, because I swear I've seen it before.

[@markomitrovic2239]

idk bro, its familiar to me too

[@jesuiscrespo]

i wonder if the Definitive Edition leaks have any information regarding Darkel

[@Santiago-lb5md]

Thanks for THAT info

[@user-vb1bs8le3g]

Darkel also replaced the hidden packages

[@AdrianGomez-vz2gy]

Were voice lines found?

[@xSRGman]

Actually, the thing with crashing a dodo is that there were no parachutes in Gta 3 so Claude would have died in the crash

[@RougeHimbo]

It was bad publicity, during the early 2000’s politicians kept saying video games caused violent outbursts. Especially after the events of columbine.

[@samdamnit6688]

I hate finding out this character was cut. I could relate.

[@whoareyou4093]

Lol SWEGTA bully was observing us today

[@dirtySwingset]

Damn Swegtas accent is thick in this vid compared to now!

[@hibye1759]

Sweden+ gta=swegta

[@CarlitoBandido]

Is it weird I'm kind of glad the character was cut

[@hibye1759]

They lost limbs when you blew the truck up

[@thegrouche5051]

ol uncle sweggy ovah here

[@SynderNOfficial]

isn't that the guy with the shotgun in one of the very first missions in the game? in the schoolbus, died to that many times

[@Hostilethreat]

Darkle is Darko from GTA IV