Don't Do This On A Group Ride! | Essential Cycling Etiquette

[@barryfield9300]

Demo of hand signals would have been nice! Slowing down/road debris/left turn/right turn/your turn to pull are the most often used.

[@umpalumpa2883]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqO8foBteZekfJo There is one by GCN

[@HellxjumperxLP]

Railroad tracks crossing or move inwards/obstacle blocking the side of the road are the two that we frequently use as well

[@barryfield9300]

@@HellxjumperxLP good point, railroad tracks can also be treacherous if crossed obliquely, I learned the hard way

[@maryhayes7574]

A lot of them vary by area, so I can see why they didn't get too specific.

[@rjm1378]

GCN/GTN is really getting their money's worth from renting out this track for a few days, huh?

[@matthewbaynham6286]

Also third party insurance. 25 years ago when I was racing just being a member of the BCF or the BTA would do the job. You don't want to crash and you most definitely don't want to have to pay for someone else's bike to be fixed because of a crash that was your fault.

[@shelldunne]

Ride leaders: pre ride brief so everyone understands plan & that everyone has a role in the overall experience.

[@craigla3815]

What kind of track is that? How do u find one?

[@craigfossey6889]

You need to take a turn on the front aswell

[@Appetite4Rose]

What?! I thought they would change my inner tubes for me 😭

[@craigla3815]

What kinda track is that? How u find one?

[@Check-it-out]

Snot rockets 🚀 😂😂😂😂😂

[@nickw6175]

You forgot the golden rule, never ever listen to the guy ( and yes its always a chap usually on the large side ! ) riding the top end £10,000 bike wearing £1,000s worth of rapha gear as they know absolutely nothing !

[@Tara_Masika]

All the kit, don't know s*** 😝

[@maximesuwarsa4676]

Great video!!! A lot of riders in Taiwan need to see this!!

[@freddyj3968]

What about turning up to a group ride with road cyclists on your TT bike? I know they hate it and some won't even let you join them but I never really understood why that is...

[@freddyj3968]

I mean I don't have to use my TT bars... Sure that would be dangerous in a group cause I'm far away from my brakes, also aero-positioning doesn't make sense in a group anyway. But as long as I stay away from my aero bars what's the difference between me and a road cyclist on a slightly more aerodynamic frame?

[@theparalexview785]

From what I've seen, most people who show up on tri-bikes or with aero bars will use the aero bars, and not always when they're safely off the back. I've dropped out of group rides when tri-folk show up using aero bars in the middle of the pack. I'm not going to lecture anyone, but I'm not gonna risk riding with them either.

[@tonycrabtree3416]

Only ride on the bars in the very front or very rear.

[@jamiewoods6874]

If you know they hate why are you doing it. Is it just to annoy people

[@freddyj3968]

@@jamiewoods6874 uh why would you assume that? I only really have room to store one bike in my apartment and would like to leave the road bike at my parents' 🤷‍♂️ Now I have to cram both bikes into my place if I want to do group rides AND train on my triathlon bike. Also, not everyone can afford to have a triathlon and a road bike. But way to make assumptions. Have a nice day

[@AlexRochette]

What bike is the black bike?

[@tonycrabtree3416]

Looks like a Pinarello Dogma blacked out.

[@AlexRochette]

Thanks!

[@clintnieves]

Another GCN presenter going to the dark side. Just kidding 😜✌🏼

[@Tara_Masika]

I wonder if they were wearing socks? 🤣

[@JohnLumapaskeith]

Manon!

[@tonycrabtree3416]

“Don’t show up with you’re own agenda”. LOL. I’ve yet to find a singular group that doesn’t have at least 25% with single agendas.

[@JohnLumapaskeith]

Where are your Tri bikes?

[@stuartmisfeldt3068]

What hand signals? Couldn’t you have demonstrated on a real road instead of a closed track?

[@negodiaysamsonoff9616]

how to sync music in players during ride?

[@gossa24]

Good video but didn't go over hand signals

[@Dr.Schlitz]

JFC, the first thing should have been NO AEROBARS ON A GROUP RIDE!!!

[@leeoien3645]

#GTN You forgot the very most important rule of a group ride. Never wear socks so everyone will know that you are a Triathlete!

[@nickp9994]

Sorry. Tri folk aren’t allowed on group rides

[@lesterwilliams1881]

I will say it again..on your bike..🦜🚵🧸💌🕊⚘

[@aw1273]

This video is missing the signals to warn your fellow group riders.

[@Kartik-lm5mp]

Why didn't Manon Lloyd talk in the whole video

[@thelionskiln]

She's the best :)

[@SBoots29]

I live out in the country and not many riders out here.Heck I only have 2 roads I'm able to ride on. I guess I will never experience that pleasure. I just hope when I do the other riders understand my newness.

[@Jeppelelle]

Yeah, if you ever do a group ride then they will absolutely understand your newness but make sure you make it clear upfront before you start, i've seen a couple of accidents & near accidents when newbies joined without informing the group & they get treated the same as experienced riders, for a newbie the pacing can be hard & getting back behind the last rider can be extremely hard the first couple of times so a new one would probably need a little more room to maneuver than experienced riders

[@jbratt]

Yes and leave your aerobars at home.

[@Aussie_stu]

Manon was a bit of a third wheel on this ride

[@pasavvas]

Gosh, group rides sound awful.

[@jigentopiwala948]

Snot Rocket!! 😁😜😤

[@maartends6051]

Don’t use TT/triathlon bike

[@petergreaves1453]

absolutely - not even clip-ons

[@RoScFan]

@@petergreaves1453 You can put brakes on aerobars. It s ok if you have brakes on aerobars no?

[@HellxjumperxLP]

I have never seen breaks on aerobars and if that even exists I would not recommend them. I don’t think you can control your bike when your arms are so close at the center of rotation while your bike is shaking from an uneven gound or anything 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@freddyj3968]

I don't get this one. I don't have to use my TT bars. Makes no sense in a group with drafting anyway. So why not let triathletes join as long as they promise to stay away from their aero bars? Makes little sense to me.

[@RoScFan]

@@HellxjumperxLP Look this up: watch?v=D1FOEnvTQQk cable spliters for brakes on tt bars.

[@chrisolson3240]

Stay the fuk in a single file. You'll stay safe that way from cars. Thank you. Love the channel!

[@k-rj740]

Not nessacarily: *Cyclists are allowed to cycle two abreast!* Rule 66 states you should never cycle more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads. This means cycles are perfectly legal to cycle side by side on most roads in the UK. Obviously some common sense needs to be used to work out if and when cyclists need to single out to let cars overtake but on the majority of UK roads cycling 2 abreast is allowed. Usually a group of cyclists will shout forward that a car is waiting ("Car Up") and if the road is too narrow for the car to pass the group safely while they are two abreast they will single out. However, if there is enough room but there are oncoming cars preventing the overtake the group will probably not single out. *Why do motorists get annoyed by cyclists two abreast?* There are many reasons why motorists tend to get annoyed so here are a few that I know of: • They think it's harder to overtake • They think it's illegal • They think it's dangerous in general •They think it means cyclists are not paying attention to the road So why do cyclists cycle two abreast? There are many reasons why cyclists choose to cycle two abreast so I'll give you the reasons that I know of. *It's Safer!* Simply put, it's safer for cyclists to ride two abreast, it means that motorists usually have to overtake in a proper manner rather than overtaking in the same lane as the cyclists. If a group of cyclists are in single file, motorists will often assume they can overtake in places which are not safe and will not leave the cyclist enough room. Motorists should give cyclists the same amount of room they would give another car when overaking (please see the Overtaking Cyclists page for more details) which means they should be on the other side of the road and would have to wait until there are no oncoming cars. Being in two files usually forces this scenario but riding in single file can lead the motorist to think they can overtake on the same side of the road if there are oncoming cars thus not giving the cyclist the correct amount of space. It allows motorists to overtake quicker!?! Riding two abreast also allows the motorist to overtake the group of cyclists quicker as there is less distance between the front and rear of the group (about half!!). This means that the motorist is past the group in less time, spending less time on the other side of the road and along side the group of cyclists and therefore safer all round. *It's sociable!* Cyclists out for a long ride will have a much more enjoyable ride if they have someone to talk to, and enjoying the ride is the main point of the ride for most. Most cyclists prefer to have someone to chat with but this does not mean that they are not riding safely, most car drivers will talk to their passengers and this is not regarded as unsafe driving! ukcyclelaws.blogspot.no/p/the-laws-according-to-highway-code.html *Cyclists have a right to claim the lane* It may come as a surprise to most drivers but cyclists have as much right as drivers to take up the entire lane. You will often see cyclists riding side-by-side, and you, as a driver, may think they’re being selfish by doing so. But the fact is the cyclist is actually reducing the risk of having an accident; it’s the safest way for them to cycle, particularly if there’s a blind bend, a narrowing of the road, a high risk junction, pinch point or traffic lights ahead. Cyclists should never cycle in the gutter as it gives no room for avoiding obstacles and leaves no room to fall if an accident occurs, increasing the risk of falling into the road and potentially under the wheels of a vehicle. *Allow plenty of space* When overtaking a cyclist a driver is required to give them as much room as you would a car, where possible. Cyclists may need to swerve to avoid hazards. Drivers should always anticipate that there may be a pothole, oily, wet or icy patch or some other obstruction. Don’t drive too close behind a cyclist as you may not be able to stop in time if they come off their bike or pull up abruptly. Unless you have an entire clear, empty lane in which to pass, slow down and wait until there is room to pass, and do so slowly. archive.derbyshire.police.uk/Safety-advice/Road-Safety-Vehicle-Security/Cyclists.aspx

[@matthewbaynham6286]

Not really it depends on the situation and the law. If a car has to perform an overtaking maneuver to get past you, they will get it right more times than not. You'll normally get about half a meter to a meter distance sideways between. yourself and the car. If you ride in the gutter then cars don't need to pull out. So cars will skim pass you with just a few cm's or mm's. It far safer for the car to actually do an overtaking maneuver.

[@chrisolson3240]

@@k-rj740 the question being what's more important, being legal or safe?

[@thetruth156real3]

Don’t ride in a group, simple, or as I call it a “narcissism” of riders.