國外聲樂老師點評 G.E.M 鄧紫棋《李香蘭》Vocal Coach Reaction to GEM「行かないで」Cover

[@FFHarryHung]

她就是超级一流歌手。🎉🎉🎉👍👍👍💯💯💯👏👏👏

[@Norwayoil]

Amazng grace and Gloria 歌曲的…表現在四萬人怒火之下, 可以平息他們在的怒火. 現今樂壇在東西方埸境表現中. 真的沒有那個歌手可以做到. 勇氣加內心的強大, 不論她的唱功技巧方面有多好或差. 本人比二百分! 就只有她! 她的信仰是其中之一. 還有她表達的愛! 現今的社會這些大音樂總監, 老牌音樂作曲家, 作詞家, 老歌手們. 好多都停留在自己的空間中. 而鄧就不斷去做一些新的償試, 挑戰的不是別人, 是自己. 有好多紅一下就滿足自滿. 鄧就剛剛相反, 做自己喜歡的音樂創作. 自己世界上獨一無二的風格. 所以歷久常新, 最難得初心不變, 只做音樂. 所以每首歌曲：都被她注入新生命在內. 學無前後, 達者為先. 挑戰的不是別人, 是自己. 天空沒有極限! 難以想像的小宇宙, 燃燒吧! 幸好有妳! 香港人以你為傲, 華人之光!

[@waikeongchang7493]

说得真好 @GEM邓紫棋

[@0huang]

这首歌是凄美，凄大于美！所以唱的不对。过美了！另外李香兰是八百勇士的绝对敌人！

[@edisonkao1129]

鄧紫棋唱得本來就非常好，但我還是覺得她唱粵語更感情投入~❤

[@ethanchen6224]

老師的講評一針見血,..一句廢話都沒有，精準 專業 🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@CeliaKwan-u9d]

I really love this song. 啊G.E.M.唱葛时候，我真系feel到好惊艳，特别系最尾葛假音收尾好点睛，加上距葛情感运用得恰到好处，真的好中意。

[@leungsiulung2664]

有樂評老師評說編曲者完美了這首曲，GEM唱法貼近原唱但完成了原唱想做但做不到的技巧，令這個版本完美致敬前輩。令一位老師評GEM是放棄炫技，平實地服務這首曲，歌者的全情投入將聽者強行帶進歌曲中。另一位音樂老師評GEM將這首曲唱成河流感。而老師正正指出這首曲為何如此好聽！

[@mercibeaucoup4293]

A very professional reaction. G.E.M. did modernisze this song beautifully!

[@treasurecheerfultime7392]

論感情演繹，原唱的二叔當勝❤，論技巧表現，Gem與二叔及友叔都是前三，誰是最佳，看各人喜好吧，而Gem還有很多機會進步，將來的她，我相信一定會更優秀，這是我作為寶石忠粉的意見。🎉❤

[@綠綠仙人掌]

歌本身就很好聽聽了 加上有感情的詮釋1+1大於2❤❤❤

[@Taylor06061982]

當不同國家的兩個專業的歌手交互示範時，真的可以把文化差異造成的特徵凸顯出來，而無關好壞。 李香蘭我還是最喜歡張學友版的，但是鄧紫棋我愛你呀！！！

[@kimfokyap1414]

十1

[@leoma8989]

張學友唱在技巧上，我反而覺得GEM唱李香蘭最有味道！

[@Taylor06061982]

@@leoma8989 哈哈，對我而言剛好相反耶。但張學友的情感方式要年紀夠大了又知曉離別的人聽了才會有感覺，聽不懂才是最幸福的。已經老到沒有力氣澎湃情感，只是想表達對遠去的人，以及時代的惜戀。

[@黃家茵-u5y]

終於有人把這首曲子唱出新的生命力了，很喜歡這個版本，聽了不膩～

[@熊廷韶]

原唱 玉置浩二 就已經頂了

[@zzzz5320]

玉置浩二 把這首唱到 貨真價實的天花版高度 他也是原唱

[@gordospace4376]

You're such a wonderful vocal coach, I'm really enjoy watching your professional and down to earth critics 😍And I must also say GEM is a great singer/performer.

[@redz9731]

Female version for this song, for me G.E.M version is the best ❤

[@markcup1979]

第一次聽到鄧紫棋唱李香蘭，就算音樂中途切斷，也可以瞬間入戲，技巧是承接情緒的呢～

[@kwaiwahlee2325]

Go on ! Really want you to sing this song ! I think you will surprise all of us!!! Your vocals suit this song well!!

[@recuerdos2457]

I look forward to the surprise too 🙃I don’t think she is able to learn it let alone to sing as good as these cantonese singers, maybe the mandarin version ?!? I … she doesn’t have clue why Eason and Jacky are loved by their audience at all.

[@yanzheng860]

其实是因为很多以前的粤语歌在唱的时候会非常注重咬字和归音，例如韵母部分，像粤语中的 你（nei），就是从e滑动到i的音，少了这个滑动过程就会显得整个音没那么圆润，我是学习播音主持专业的，我们在学习汉语普通话单字词的时候也是这样去学习语音发声，由于语言的不同，她问的就是从听觉上，这个韵母滑动发音的过程似乎过于累赘，能不能简化，我个人认为，尽量不要，因为音调，发音稍有不同就会造成语义理解偏差，二，这是一首慢歌，在歌词创作过程中已经是非常斟词酌句，也就是字数非常少了，中文是象形文字，单个字和词的背后本来就有丰富的信息，这些曲子为了词曲优美，用的很多都不是太过于口语化的写法，所以在表达上需要更准确，包括字的发音

[@Rebirth7743]

韻母部

[@pengyunfei]

鸟语不如重庆话一根毛😅

[@JerJerry101]

@@pengyunfei重慶話有什麼街知巷聞的歌，歌手會拿來比賽的嗎？想認識一下

[@葉-f8o]

每次聽到這首歌,我就會想起當年那支煙和高熱火炎

[@lorenzoxiong2611]

確實也是我聽過的李香蘭版本中最動聽的，可能只有Eason認認真真進錄音室內翻唱能媲美了。

[@hungcheunglo1995]

推介另外一個版本，Janees 黃洛妍的電台直播 live 版本： kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6bXonqldtmmeZYsi=XlEgkJ7fqS2-9L_h

[@getrido4724]

當第一次聽 GEM 唱"李香蘭" 時, 我被深深吸引, 特別喜歡 , 根本是一位聲樂藝術家 .

[@kaycheong4339]

Japanese original version sounds more of an elder man regretting, while she makes it into a story from a girl who is just sad about her past. totally agree that the song fits perfectly for her tone and with her skill to process, this really becomes the best version & the best of gem songs so far! I totally understand teachers feeling ! So well interpreted emotionally and technically ❤

[@jngas2553]

鄧子棋有自己的風格唱出色彩❤妳有眼光❤❤❤❤

[@kimfokyap1414]

紫棋

[@晏真婷]

希望可以一起re 也是gem是時光音樂會唱的粵語歌

[@okpkaks1a]

有好幾個歌手都有唱情人 可以做一集對比

[@yamhinglam]

紫棋這版的"李香蘭"我好喜歡，感情細膩，歌聲動聽！

[@0huang]

这个歌不是优美＞哀伤。是相反。所以是凄美。所以唱的变味了！另外李香兰是八百壮士的绝对敌人！

[@moumou423]

⁠@@0huang個人認為這首歌有淒美的感覺，音樂蠻主觀的🤣大家聽完的感覺可能都不太一樣

[@lanrosleo3698]

聽不懂粵語，還可以精準地聽出演唱者的能力與技巧。非常厲害

[@recuerdos2457]

但她不明白為什麼人家這様唱、為什麼懂的人都覺得很好聴:)還想教人如何唱歌、太自我感覺良好🙃

[@休比-z5j]

一件藝術品是不能用技巧來評價的 老師沒錯 她的角度是分析這首歌的 技巧使用 所以就算她不喜歡鼻音太多也好 她也是欣賞這首歌的❤

[@mau2089]

因為這首歌她沒有過度炫技 以前在"歌手"舞台上的每首歌因為在比賽必須討好觀眾拿到分數 而中國聽眾目前的審美標準是高音.炫技.嘶啞 簡單來說就是大歌芭樂歌 在編排上就是唱到副歌時堆疊情緒在升KEY來達到最高潮

[@oliverkk2452]

首先李健的分数一直很高的，也就是观众并不是只喜欢飙高音，只是飙高音更简单，更直接，而且高音不代表没有情感。其次，如果观众都喜欢飙高音炫技嘶哑，说明群众喜欢，按照我们的思维，群众喜闻乐见的东西你不喜欢你算老几。从古至今能传颂的诗篇很多都是朗朗上口哪怕没读过书都能念两句的。真的艺术家从来都不会贬低群众，自以为曲高和寡，老百姓听不懂，搞那些顾影自怜的艺术家都是些小丑而已。

[@oliverkk2452]

艺术不服务于人民群众，反而走脱离群众，自以为是的路线，这个就是真的人民艺术家和小资情调的根本区别。

[@oliverkk2452]

我觉得你和我们那些古董的春晚导演很像，搞文艺汇演不想着服务群众，大过年的让大家开心，想着怎么教育群众，最终被群众唾弃。

[@坚定-n1r]

@@oliverkk2452喜欢技巧的歌手，喜欢简单直接的有问题吗？何必解释太多，我们有我们的喜好，艺术家也好歌手也罢，不吃饭都饿，欣赏能力高了，艺人更尊重歌迷迎合歌迷，不是唱苦情歌口水歌的时候了，简简单单叹个气，甩个哭腔就能赚钱，歌剧里没人去听河北梆子，心烦的时候重金属太噪，情景很重要！

[@CK-gd3lb]

鄧紫棋在這個舞台唱這首歌也是為了大陸觀眾

[@成翔-h1b]

超喜歡杰凱跟Rozette老師爭論的時候，通常很多搭檔都會是一個發言一個負責讚聲😄我認為只有相當實力的對手才有辦法做到這麼大的討論空間😶‍🌫

[@MrFreeman348]

老師終於感受到 G.E.M 既吸引之處

[@MorgannaMGone]

this is probably the highest praise that Rozette has given to GEM, I think? even though I quite like GEM's rendition but I personally don't think anyone beats Koji Tamaki's performances I can see why this appeals more to Rozette though also the small part about the emphasis and pronunciation, I think Rozette doesn't really understand how rigid Cantonese songs can be the tones _have to_ be accurate. even if there's any deviation, it's only very slightly otherwise the words will have different meanings

[@recuerdos2457]

And she wanted to argue about that like she knows better and she can fix it 🙃 she said「你」唱成「呢」sounds better,… smh. She probably she can sing the song even better than Gem🤭

[@姚漢昌]

這是我目前聽過的最強版本了

[@alexpoon9048]

Pls continue to react to GEM other songs in this time concert music show, including her own composed songs

[@TimothyYNWA]

作為gem出道就一直係歌迷會既我表示：感謝老師欣賞gem ❤️🙏

[@ellyteam]

我個人覺得這目前我最喜歡Gem的一首歌，沒有討我厭的masking sound.

[@kin0428]

我也討厭她的masking sound

[@kittyho5727]

Looking forward to hear Rozette singing this beautiful song. ❤

[@hungcheunglo1995]

推介Janees 黃洛妍的 RTHK2電台直播 live 版本，她拿捏《李香蘭》，有另一番淒美 👍🏻 Another HK singer, Janees’ rendition of this song is as emotionally expressive and exudes a mood that is so very melancholic and befitting of the lyrics.

[@LeachingJack]

This is also my favorite version of the song. Even beating out the original Japanese singer, which I never thought would be possible.

[@09_magumi]

超好聽💜

[@dichow9141]

老师的耳朵真的 劲~！

[@wytheli]

2:25 的確「你」可以有很多唱法，支持老師。

[@allenji3311]

I like it when you say you are not going down on this one. nice

[@kimsum19]

Gem是個天才，她完全利用張學友原唱的腔，但加入自己聲音變調的原素，改良了成為一首新李香蘭，但又不失原唱韻味！天才

[@ecusingeric938]

少年時聽过張学友的，但大了也沒刻意正式去聽全首一次，但好奇想聽GEM如何唱這首公認有難度又不甚吸引我的歌，一聽驚艷，好似起死回生😮

[@freedoml7269]

很優美

[@Booklin46]

好讚的詮釋

[@sinlm3386]

對於個你字，我諗應該可以拆開黎睇，你嘅粵語拼音係nei，gem係呢個位應該係唱成ne～～～i，而影片嘅男仔應該係唱成nei～～～，一個係將個e音拉長，一個係將個i音拉長，亦姐係話gem係呢個位做左個open vowels，我認為兩種做法都可以，gem嘅唱法顯得更有現代感，而影片中嘅男仔就有年代感少少，冇對錯之分，純粹係每個人口味唔同 ps：理性討論 有錯請歡迎指出😂😂

[@hashtaggenie_]

贊成， 學唱歌嘅時候會教拉長e對發聲有幫助（但gem應該唔係好需要XD），藝術層面上唔係太清楚，但係個人都覺得拉長e聽落去比較圓滑啲

[@recuerdos2457]

Gem挺有想法！她確實沒有像Jacky Cheung把每個字咬清楚、但重點的字她是清楚的！廣東歌因為pitch所以有難道！那個coach自以為她懂、還教Jacky and Eason應如何唱！啼笑皆非smh

[@jejedidi520]

可能因為鄧紫棋唱的這首是她原本的母語，所以更能運用自如所有的技巧更加自然融合順暢婉轉，情感的表達也能夠更加深刻！！

[@tiethief9129]

粵語很多字都是一個字就有兩個音，所以不是他們硬要轉音，是本來就這樣唸，不過我投張學友一票，鄧紫棋厲害在他表演能力非常強，所以整場看起來讓人很爽，會讓人很振奮人心，但真的打入內心深處的，還是張學友

[@kimfokyap1414]

我喜欢紫棋的

[@gi9660]

我也喜歡歌神多點

[@kimfokyap1414]

@@gi9660 我喜欢紫棋的

[@recuerdos2457]

的確很好聴！很用心唱好每個音。而且是首難度非常高的歌！但她咬字卻沒有原唱乾淨清楚。如果要連續聽十次、我應該還是選擇原唱Phan！！這位老師說她也要唱🤭她就是広東話發音已經有排練、再要完整唱整首歌、她高估了自己！韓紅那麼會唱、一唱広東歌就走掉！最好笑這老師已經不懂還要教學友Eason如何唱！？無知顯露無遺🫣

[@tiethief9129]

@@recuerdos2457 也不能怪她，粵語確實音太多了，而且很多無法隨意更改發音，唱英語的可能會無法理解為啥粵語不多做點變化，轉音之類的，但其實粵語只要寫好了，就很難再做變化了，因為亂轉音字都會變另外一個意思了，而且還會少了那種感覺

[@luke9045]

其實語言對歌曲有著微妙的影響，像用粵語在唱柔情歌時真的比國語發音更能觸動人心。

[@婷婷-z4w]

這影片我居然站在和老師同樣的語言起點 同樣聽不懂粵語 哈哈

[@ckchong6945]

夜放纵，那个夜应该是那样才能表出夜的味道

[@里夫-l1b]

鄧紫棋演唱的歌曲中 這首也是我比較喜歡的 克制的唱法 較多的感情投入 都更貼合這首歌的意境 這樣的表現方式 都更能打動我 一昧地飆高音 放大招 只能說歌者本身功底好好 技巧好 但是沒有聽懂歌

[@kimfokyap1414]

十1

[@recuerdos2457]

非常同意

[@helenw9220]

好想听老师唱中文歌啊 唱粤语的时候感觉都好标准！

[@recuerdos2457]

「你」但想唱成「呢」、還標準！？最好笑她覺得自己唱法較聰明好聴！

[@tomchi2929]

一直以來我都認為老師談論的是西方歌唱技巧、高低、厚度，這次她會特別喜歡的原因，我認為她總算發現東方歌唱方式，就是文字情感融於唱腔。

[@yingchuchen9008]

我也覺得這是她唱最好的歌😂

[@ethanw.8210]

鄧紫棋就是神❤

[@kenqiao3946]

It's hard not to mimic Jacky a little bit for younger generations who grew up listening to him sang this song.

[@StarLau5335]

想聽老師react GEM的四種語言歌曲（粵語、普通話、英語、西語）

[@christinawong9451]

除了玉置浩二的版本(神作！), 我曾在現場聽過張學友的李香蘭, 真的如夢似幻, 有點「Somewhere in Time」電影的感覺; 女版的話最愛是關淑怡, 她對曲中感情的註釋非常動人。

[@recuerdos2457]

這老師多次說張學友唱法過時、像staccato 、尾音又沈又斷😂她根本不懂欣賞她不懂的東西！非常自大、思想狹窄

[@dx2002sg]

Surprisingly good. Well done

[@stardustevolution]

想听想听！想听老师的诠释

[@tingachang5]

有機會可以聽關淑怡的版本，知名度低但是她詮釋得極好，希望大家能找來聽。

[@touyu5630]

好聽

[@-mrt9598]

GEM is undeniably a great vocalist but please listen to Sandy Lam version of this song too!! Please Please 😁

[@recuerdos2457]

Ah… I think Sandy Lam is able to execute this song very well.

[@AJ-wj3ob]

期待老師學這首歌！！！

[@davidy7504]

Chinese is monosyllabic, Mandarin & Cantonese alike. Basically all Han-character-based languages share this feature. What's interesting about monosyllabicity is that these languages value every single character or word. That's why singers tend to rest on chosen characters/words & extend them. Western musicians like Rozette may resist this style of singing, because they often do that on the last monosyllabic word only. Actually, I can recall many occasions where they do this, even in the middle of the song. However, whichever word chosen to do this must be monosyllabic. In all Han-character-based languages, every word is monosyllabic. That's why you'll see this more often.

[@recuerdos2457]

Jay has tried to explain to her many times :) she probably thinks there is one way and it’s the way she knows… quite ignorant and narrow minded!!

[@liyin-n3l]

這真的是我最愛的李香蘭

[@hungcheunglo1995]

推介另外一個版本，Janees 黃洛妍的電台直播 live 版本： kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6bXonqldtmmeZYsi=XlEgkJ7fqS2-9L_h

[@a706133]

很明顯老師聽到後面整個人沉醉了，都忘記該講評了

[@Howard87]

有机会听到老师点评曹格在我是歌手唱的(寂寞先生)吗😂

[@shlwkhk]

Sorry，聽久了有點膩

[@Howard87]

@@shlwkhk 那是你的问题，那你可以听他唱的(我们有个家)

[@continentzero7572]

J'aime GEM.

[@bingxiong7469]

黄大炜的让每个人都心碎。

[@johnng1815]

应该推荐黄大炜的，他才是全场最佳

[@cccowww]

中文版Elton John

[@louisleow9719]

Hi hi let her try Shirley Kwan very breathy voice

[@聽鄧紫棋的歌]

I feel like the guy, is he quite like GEM😂? Seems like he is really protecting her a lot. But i like it.😂 coz i m big fan fan of GemGem❤

[@louisleow9719]

She imitated Shirley Kwan

[@davidy7504]

Oh well, this song is the most emotive you've heard from her because this is an old song. Old folks love that. Young people don't give a damn. Well, let me take it back. Old folks like it deep; young people want it strong. Let's put it this way. Entertainment is always chasing money. Decades ago, parents spent their money. Today, children spend their parents' money. That's why the pop music world is shifting.

[@beiwencao5771]

邓紫棋这首李香兰的确唱的很美，老师更美

[@毛遂自薦]

但不可能好過玉置浩二

[@gracewongzx8690]

也希望老师能听听看张韶涵的歌 尤其是阿刁，谢谢

[@edmondhung7863]

Tamaki Koji is still the best not just technically, but the depth of emotional expression. JEM is good but her tone feels like water…

[@diloluenwong]

比老師睇埋gem 唱超能力live la

[@kijijicanada5038]

邓唱啥都是感冒没好塞鼻子的感觉，听着那是相当的难受， 学友哥这方面几乎完美无瑕

[@kimfokyap1414]

我喜欢紫棋的

[@lagbluey]

would love to see reactions to the same singer singing in Mandarin vs. Cantonese! to me they can sound very different. personally I prefer the tones of GEM and Eason singing in Cantonese.

[@recuerdos2457]

I think they did already. There was one where they put Jacky Cheung, and the Japanese original singer, perhaps someone who sings the mandarin version… this coach doesn’t know how to appreciate Cantonese singers at all, she even mocked Beyond that he didn’t have technique when sang…

[@davidy7504]

Alright, remember that Mandarin has 4 tones. The 3rd tone is often embodied in the way we sing. That's why Western musicians like Rozette don't do that. You must first lower to soar higher. Now, you know why G.E.M. does that.

[@RB-zk2vo]

鄧紫棋被人吐槽最多就是鼻音，但沒什麼人質疑她唱功

[@26100457s]

天生的沒辦法

[@recuerdos2457]

香港広東語較帶鼻音！但她的個人特色、有些人不喜歡也沒辦法！

[@dixliu]

If it appeals, I'd like to see you get Cantonese speaker/singer and transcribe the phonetics with you and get it spot on...🎉please

[@johnng1815]

为什么不推荐同场的黄大炜呢？他才是这场表演中最出色的那位

[@西點評論中國官方頻道]

很惊艳。。。。

[@忠曾]

很感知主播老外女仕亦深觸此曲時空背景慕情時代糾結價評，台知音客😢這曲（for李香蘭)誰唱我都入圍。😮

[@rynelee4469]

老師在2分鐘左右講的那個勺音，我同意老師的看法.... 張學友在唱這首歌便不會這樣唱，那在華人世界中的確很常被使用。 但在現今用過頭，聽起來會很老派.... 此在閩南語歌曲裡是十幾年前頻繁被使用的唱法...尤其在每句句尾 目前一線歌手已明顯少用 國語歌曲張韶涵很常使用，我甚至因此不大喜歡聽她的歌...

[@recuerdos2457]

但不能不把字咬正來唱！你可能不懂広東語是嗎？如果是個「你」字、你能讀成「呢」了事嗎？而且有些字音咬錯pitch、意思就不一樣！如電腦／癲佬、驚／頸 這老師根本無知、又不願意承認自己不是什麼也懂、小城市沒見過世面的也沒有她如此㒼塞！Smh

[@rynelee4469]

@@recuerdos2457 橘老師就是不懂粵語，所以他只能憑所學音樂本能來評斷，並無對錯阿... 張學友也是香港人，你總不能說他不懂粵語吧 他就不用勺音唱這首歌 不過鄧紫琪，連唱所謂普通話的歌也很常用勺音呢...我想純屬他個人習慣，我真聽不慣

[@dchoo1207]

如果这首歌由关淑怡唱的话应该会更让人津津乐道

[@kerinhuang3333]

學友還是感人依舊 可以聽聽周星馳版了 哈哈

[@dinoreal6825]

我發現老師在說的就是注音的二聲跟三聲的差別 三聲會有個起伏 ˇ P.S 好想聽老師唱這首

[@123BLueBee]

2:15 Cantonese speaker from HK here doesn't understand what the heck JKAI is talking about 😂😂😂😂😂 Of course we understand the word NEI with a faster scoop. It doesn't change the meaning at all. Cantonese is not (while Japanese is) a timed language. Nei and Ne~i has the exact meaning, while Saki and Sa.ki has totally different meanings in Japanese. Anyway, I love this ver the most at well 🤩

[@recuerdos2457]

你＆呢是一様嗎？she doesn’t want the vibrato sounds bented, faster scope will be ne or ni… and also you have to deal with the different pitch on every single word. You should know better if you speak Cantonese, have your independent thinking bro!! Do you really think all Cantonese singers are just dumb who pick a terrible way to sing 🤭and you trust a small town know-it-all?!? Smh

[@chiwaikwok4308]

現在要會員才能看嗎？怎麼弄？

[@allen5690]

可以給老師聽黃大煒的你把我灌醉或是 讓每個人都心碎

[@crazybeen5499]

期待聽老師唱這首

[@MaximSupernov]

這首歌鄧紫棋把它唱到新高度。不輸原唱玉置浩二。

[@毛遂自薦]

Sorry

[@paulawong6829]

紫棋比較適合唱粵語歌， 可惜因為市場她小唱了粤語歌😢

[@SummerKuang]

沙寶亮版本的也很喜歡

[@賴家榮-j7c]

許願聽江蕙歌評@.@好期待

[@davidng4609]

Pls comment till the end of the song too much interruption destroy our enjoyments ;sorry our critics ,can replay the songs and comment intermittently to be honestly we interested in GEM performance much more than the professional pickings, my apology again.BTW, do you know the background of the song? real sad love story behind😢😢

[@kkchan1020]

2:32 if the “nei” pronounced like how the coach did. it would be a fail in Cantonese.