Guenther Steiner on Max's WDC Chances, Alpine's Jump, Lando's Starts, and Lewis Being Checked Out

[@prototype4486]

Honestly the fact that max won it form p17 is impressive but him not locking up or running off the track is even more impressive. Which make him the best one out there. He's him

[@Pk5714-]

And *the way* he raced is something to factor in too. Everyone's, especially Lando's tires were completely EFFED up but not Max's. He did so many things right it's insane to comprehend.

[@BigBoii1369]

Max did lock up once… but just once from what I saw. He went for a gap on a turn and then the door got closed so he had to slam the brakes and he locked up pretty big time

[@DimitriGregorio]

Honestly, the fact that Max won from P17 is impressive, but the fact that you two wankers managed to get Gunther as a permanent part of the pod is legendary. Love it!

[@mascha28swinkels]

What most people seem to forget is that there is no mandatory pitstop during a race that has been declared wet, so it would not have made a difference anyway if the rules where changed. In a dry race of course it would make a difference.

[@patrickhinten]

Exactly this! , was about to comment this!

[@NadaFAli]

poor Papa Guenther needs a cup of coffee lol, can't imagine waking up to talk on a podcast haha

[@danielson9994]

Just to speak to two people who lack fundamental understanding of the sport

[@TjopStick]

When Max was young his dad stand in the middle of a rainy track. Max need to avoid him and find a better line to race. His dad randomly change his position on the track. And Max needs to adopt the variable condition. Thats one part why he is so good in the rain.

[@aorta538]

Max drove te same lines he did in 2016...! - 8 years later, "It's just luck!" (Lando Norris) 😂🤣😃

[@truth4reel]

Nah he didn't. In 2016 the track was different. You could see it and even Max said multiple times that there was only one line which in his estimation was gonna make passing difficult. But Max being himself found a way.

[@ijxijx]

A red flag will reset the gaps between drivers. If you add a rule that the tire changes don't count/are not allowed, then the drivers who haven't pitted yet will be punished. Where before a red flag they might have dropped two or three positions, after they could go from first to last in one stop. The alternative is probably even less fair than the current rules

[@Southpawdg1]

Yes. Well said. Changing tires under red flag is not the best rule but it is definitely the lesser of two evils

[@Alexander20091988]

Exactly, im baffled nobody is talking about this. Its always the other way around.

[@2Fast4Mellow]

Not to mention that if there is an accident with a lot of debris on the track and some cars drive through on their way to the pits, that pitstop suddenly doesn't count or you can't change tires. The 'free' tire swap at a red flag is a safety measure. But you have seen the onboards just before the safetycar, Ocon and Max were driving on older tires with less grip, so there is also a risk for staying out and suddenly lose control of your car. Norris and Russel changed tires because during a safetycar you lose less time during a pitstop because the field drives slower. How is that fair? Are we at that point close the pit entry? If the Colopinto didn't crash behind the safetycar, Ocon and Max would be still old tires while Norris/Russel would be on new tires and have at that point an advantage. That is why there is a strategy team to figure out what is the best option at that moment. But Norris really wanted new tires even after his race engineer told him that Leclerc was stuck in traffic in P13.

[@knowledgerules2813]

It’s always the same. When the rules work your way you hear nothing. When they work against you you start crying. It’s very simple: Lando choked, max was hyped up.

[@TraysonMartin]

@@knowledgerules2813 I wouldn't say Max was hyped up, he literally went from P17 up to points contention is less than a lap, and worked his way further up before anyone pit. Ocon did the same, so did Gasly. Not to mention Max overtook Ocon, and then built a nearly 20 second gap. Not to mention the vast amounts of Fastest Laps he kept setting and breaking. That's not over hyping Max that's just facts. Lando did choke, but he also wanted to swap tires earlier than they actually did. Did the red flag help Max? Sure. Did he have potential to win the race even if it wasn't red flagged? Almost certainly he would've had a good shot at winning, considering how well he drove. Don't forget in 2016 Max went p16 to p3 on the same circuit in the same conditions. Wet weather is his specialty.

[@tallindiandude]

I feel like in the offseason, Matt and Brian should rewatch F1 seasons prior to when they started F1 and talk about it in this style. Maybe even have Guenther chime in on those said events.... 🤔

[@SomaCellskin]

Yes was like “Hello classic Lewis championship runs storming up from the back including in the rain. Every “season of champions” has that one special driver. Are we forgetting Michael Etc etc?

[@mropie81]

They need to watch 2016 at least -

[@devanii]

the tire change is a rule for so long.. now norris have a disadvantage the rules must be changed?? come on

[@irwingtv9348]

To be honest, Lando doesn't have the guts and balls to win the championship unless the car is very good, sorry Lando fans.

[@user-by9xk7yo2n]

Just look at Hungary Max Hamilton Alonso Seb and Schumacher would never let their teammates pass or do what their team says that's way they're multiple times world champions😂

[@hardbreaktwo]

32:12 Gunther, my man...if you were a team principal and Lance was your driver, you would pull your hair out and cry if he did something like that. 😭😭😭

[@Dinklewurthe]

I dropped everything and ran when I saw this notif

[@mohamedfouad3678]

We need your IG id

[@Baker92849]

Nice guys. Thanks for this again.

[@thiagomclima2004]

42:52 Actually matters. Lando said "simply lovely, huh?" in Zandvoort, Max's home race. For less than that, countries and reigns went to war. Checo had the nerve to say he was a WDC material after his two wins in 2023 and Max went full lionly predator on him in Miami with resentfulness about Monaco/2022. After Lando mockery on Max' catchphrase, besides the critics, the whole Red Bull situation and the RB car's shitification, do you think a man forged by trauma, struggle, simulations and hardcore training will leave it as a mere banter? Come on, guys. I'm not even a Verstappen shagger, but I recognize this reality: every driver who tried to ridicule (or almost kill) Verstappen, the dutch became a beast.

[@Shocker99]

I think Lando said 'simply lovely' as a sign of respect to Max. As in, Lando had a race just as good as what Max normally does. Lando considers Max and him as friends - so why would he mock his friend like that... so what you've said doesn't make sense.

[@thiagomclima2004]

@@Shocker99 I know both are friends, but there are hints of Norris that make me think twice on that matter. The way he talks to his engineers sometimes, how he was passive-agressive multiple times, including against Hamilton for praising McLaren's car, how the acted after breaking Max' Hungary trophy and for saying Max were "just lucky" in Interlagos. I want to be wrong, but those little things makes me wonder, you know?

[@AllKings]

​@@Shocker99 seriously? His tone seemed very cocky and sarcastic

[@Ryzard]

@@Shocker99 Dude, I respect the take, but NO. That was banter at BEST. That's like trickshotting your friend and saying his bit or something - it's gloating lmao, like saying "oh so that's how it feels" to show the change of dynamic. If he said a quote from like senna or whoever, then it would be respect maybe. But the phrase of the dude you are literally in a title fight with, especially with off track drama happening? No.

[@Shocker99]

@@Ryzard The off track drama? Did you make that up? There is no off track drama between Lando and Max. Furthermore, let's pretend there is off track drama between the two. The phrase was said a long time before any of the on track drama started. So NO.

[@not_the_1]

The red flag tyre changes over many years added a different strategy to the race and keeps it exciting. Having to adjust your strategy mid-race shows skill. Just like fastest lap points which they took away just because of Lando, now take away red flag tyre changes....JUST NO!!

[@triciar.721]

Good on Guenther for always giving people the benefit of the doubt. I respect that. What has made the races interesting, more than anything else, is the human element and the choices that get made under the craziest amount of pressure.

[@renvzla]

guys, if you put an ad just after each question, by the time the ad finishes and Guenther starts talking, I already forgot what the question was. This podcast is great but hard to follow for me.

[@bencroxall4552]

Yes boyssss , yes g spot waited all day for this yesterday and it never came, was like Christmas to see this notification after work today !! Haven't even said hello to the misses yet ;)

[@bakkerad49]

Great podcast boy’s. Was Nice to see Guenter in your show. I see Guenter regulary together with Jack in our Race Café 👍👍

[@sosome1]

really was looking forward to this podcast. Now that Lando lost a big chance in this grand prix, Oscar who already wasnt eager to help Lando, wont give him any free pass in next 3 grandprix. Lando has lost the WC.

[@wilseph1]

Cant lose what you never had!

[@ebm80]

Guenther is a Legend. Great conversation. Unscripted just purely F1 talk.

[@InterestedAmerican]

The definition of "luck" as defined by Lando Norris: When a rival chooses a different race strategy to him, and strategy pays off for his rival in the end with a race victory. It wasn't luck that a red flag happened; it was inevitable, given the weather conditions and the amount of cars that were constantly spinning off track.

[@johanburger4454]

Exactly and look what happened to max in q2, he was 0.5 ahead of everyone on the wet yet was knocked. Shit happens based on strategy, such is life and such is f1

[@da7aminer]

Keep this alive! Here for the hot takes, baby.

[@toosavagegamingx]

Absolute Maxterclass.

[@Eddylatumalea]

I'dike to point out... we have another driver in the RB team called Checo... he is no where the whole season ... so call it what it is... RB is an awesone team but Max is the guy that does it.

[@51bikerboy]

Sorry but under the red flag Lando was allowed to change his tyres aswell. So if he is that good he could have made up about 17 places as well but he didn't! Why not Lando if you are that good!?

[@johanfeenstra8778]

You guys make more sense than Guenther. It is clear that Guenther is in the McKaren camp. That he is a supporter for Lando is fine but the mistake he made is also clear and stil the pandering for Lando is sickening

[@hotf00t13]

Sickening😂 guy barely said anything.

[@Melon623]

You max fans are insufferable. Everything is about how much of a victim Max is and no one can have a differing opinion about him or a positive one about lando, lewis etc without accusation of conspiracy or British bias even when they aren’t British. Worst fans.

[@hellogoodybye44]

How dramatic of a comment 😂

[@gerlynnollan5634]

@@hellogoodybye44😂

[@Marithea-r1d]

Hon you are sickening

[@patrizianicoleromero8264]

For a 7am podcast gunther’s pretty good hahaha still quick to banter

[@KidLatin27]

Yeah he should've done a podcast years ago he's awesome.😊

[@fernandaprazeres3315]

Brasil always delivers!!! 🇧🇷💚💛

[@Zacahorse]

George can drive shitboxes. Lewis can't. What did George drive before Mercedes? Shittest boxes Williams. What did Lewis drive before Mercedes? Championship & race winning McLarens. George knows how to make a shitbox turn, Lewis doesn't.

[@Alexnader8788]

Ehhh i dont know. Lewis did help Mercedes what it was, a powerhouse. Last year Lewis was third in the championship behind two RBs and I’d argue that Mercedes had the third fastest car. I honestly just think they’re giving all their energy towards George and why not? He’s a part of their future. I also think Lewis is just kind of tapped out. He’s not going to win WDC, or team constructors, he’s gone in like 3 races, so why even stress yourself.

[@GT1Zero]

I thought the pit stop wasn’t mandatory. What is mandatory is to use more than one compound during a dry race. I’m pretty sure in rainy conditions it’s not mandatory to run wets and inters.

[@patricktrakzel9657]

Rain is the great equalizer. It does not matter if you have 50 hp less. It is about ability. What did the great Ayrton Senna say: You cannot pass 15 cars in the dry, but you can in the rain. And yes, the VSC waited for the swap between Oscar and Lando. Who was the steward? McLaren's third driver Johnny Herbert. The FIA should have paid stewards, from countries without drivers or fabricators/teams and therefor no national bias. Lance had indeed a brainfart, thinking he was going to play tennis, so... searching the gravel.

[@2Fast4Mellow]

Herbert is a steward. NOT a race director. About Lance, drivers can't see their grid spot and this is why there is no a yellow line where they should stop, add some rain and the difference between a road and a gravel trap can quickly fad away. No different than that Perez didn't notice and was not correctly placed on the grid, claiming it was a great start.

[@johnandmorehb3422]

09:30 then also no pit under vsc and sc.

[@martiningemannbording8758]

Is the Gunthfather tshirt/hoodie comming to the merch store? Love it!

[@Haizenmaier]

34:18 AND has out qualified Alonso several times this year. Great point

[@Mi24fan]

Because Alonso has been inconsistent and fell to Lances poor performance level. But back in 2023 Lances could never reach the performance height of Alonso making several podiums…..

[@rsotuyo15]

The point difference between the two is the same as last year, he is still far behind Alonso

[@mjguar2722]

10:50 - If you had to make a change post red flag then it could highly advantage teams that pit pre red flag. Those who haven't will essentially have a 25 second penalty in one stop races

[@Arsenic71]

It wasn't rain, it was Johnny Herbert's, the stewards', McLarens and the FIAs tears. Such a dominating win despite them throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him (you know, no penalties for blatant rules breaches like the abandoned start or breaches of technical regulations in the case of Merc changing tyre pressures in parc fermé which are usually a slam-dunk racing penalty). Of course he was lucky with the rain, but there's being lucky and then there's being lucky, overtaking the entire field from 17th, setting 17 fastest laps and winning the race by a country mile in clearly only the 3rd fastest car on the grid. Why are we suddenly discussing rules that have been in place for like forever... just because Max won a race, or more importantly, Lando lost? Lando is no reason to suddenly start changing rules. it's already bad enough as it is with inconsistent decisions favouring Lando. Really pisses me off, this British BS.

[@58668687]

legendary moment was when max was flying away and Lando was went off the track, there the season ended

[@gizelkandiel1315]

Love Guenther

[@LevJutsen]

I’m trying really hard to love these guys but this podcast was a hard watch. Hopefully as there knowledge of the sport increases they can have more interesting conversation but the first 15 minutes of this was brutal. Gunther should be talking with near peers not casual fans

[@Baker92849]

I need that book Guenther

[@Shocker99]

RE: the free pitsop. I think they should add on the time it takes to drive through the pits on to the race time of all drivers given a free pitstop.

[@hideouspatje]

Nope...just nope...now it was max esteban and pierre who profited, next time your favorite driver will profit from it... and besides in a wet race there isn't a mandatory pitstop..

[@Ryzard]

Okay but then the gaps are gone so that can make the others benefit. There's no way to handle a red flag without someone benefiting and someone losing out.

[@Shocker99]

@@hideouspatje I'm trying to think of the fairest way to deal with it because it's supposed to be a sport - not a casino. If we say that drivers are dumb for changing to the wets before (and if) a race is stopped, does that mean that all drivers should always stay out to play Russian roulette. It seems like a worst decision to me.

[@ebm80]

@@Shocker99 Russell roulette :D

[@gatkins120]

Gents. Guenther is right about the maths of scoring. If Alpine are scoring points in 19th all the time, Let's say they scoring on average 2 points a race which say after 10 races is 20 points. Then Haas is scoring 9th/10th place points at an average of say 12 points a race which is 120 points. The team winning is racking up about 50 points a race because there has to be a gap in the points awarded so after 10 races it's 500. There will still be these major gaps and a race like Brazil will still change the narrative. I think giving points further down actually benefits the higher drivers more because they getting awarded more to provide for the gaps in between. So it isn't actually helping the smaller teams at all. Should also consider that if you want win, you have to be able to handle any situation because these things come up in races every year. Red Bull are consistently one of the teams that can keep their cool. That in itself is an achievement. In the past, Williams were a car that could perform in rain. I mean Stroll got a podium in a Williams in a wet race. lol. So it's all about how good teams can handle that different type of pressure. Alpine jumping to 6th is fair because when it counted most, they were able to handle it.

[@mikaellofgren7]

F awesome podcast. Hurray.

[@kiMujash]

Guenther such a great guy.

[@randallsheriff3529]

You cant change the red flag and changing the tyres rule.... It massively benefits whoever already pitted to an extreme level

[@hchen8635]

That painting on the wall behind Steiner looks interesting. ( or is it a photo ? P

[@limitedmark]

I miss Guenther every race week end

[@kansasalumna1097]

Lando dropping Simply Lovely, before Max’s trademarked merch dropped is helping a buddy get free advertising.

[@ebolart]

Considering the immediate upswing in Haas f1's success after his sacking, who in F1 got more exposed than television personality Guenther Steiner?

[@Cuskocuint]

If was Hamilton at Mclaren he would win this year.

[@paulbulk7044]

I agree with that, I am a Max fan but Hamilton would have won in the McLaren. Still a great driver. also great in the wet

[@doug3011]

Gunther ffs. Stroll drove off deliberately because he thought 'i cant be arsed with this today' it was so obvious he doesn't want to be there. bored with trying to fullfil daddy's dream.

[@magdalenamiletic4440]

You are more objective than Gunter. You should comment realistically, not as a fan

[@hardbreaktwo]

26:29 thats actually a good point. They didnt want Lando to wait in Hungary because what if SC.... but they let Oscar wait till the end of the race... strange😮

[@MsBeatrix_K]

Here's the things that people missed or ignored: that Lewis drove an experimental car, a different set-up for the upcoming W16. Merc also admitted it. Which means it will affect his race and quali results. Taken from last race, there's a big difference between George and Lewis's car. The onboard video shows a lot. Not against George, but I'm pretty sure if George drives Lewis' car, he's going to crash at some point because it's so undriveable. Maybe that's the reason they chose Lewis as a guinea pig to test the car. And I think Lewis just so done with this crap upgrades and there's nothing to lose either. What a shame they have to ended their partnership like this.

[@delahayenator]

Why would you give the guy that’s leaving any info on your new ideas, even if they don’t work. Nice info to bring along. Also stuff that doesn’t work is interesting to know. Can save a lot of time not going the wrong way.

[@MsBeatrix_K]

​@@delahayenatorThat's also my question, why bother with driver who's gonna leave the team. But take a look in Austin, George crashed with the new upgrades, also another crashed in Mexico. Sooo... 🤷🏽‍♀️ I don't know, maybe they need more experienced driver for running the test?!

[@obregondaniel]

P11 to P15 should get 2 points, P16-20 get 1 point, this creates a real incentive for every driver to finish the race

[@iannini10]

Please teach Guenther how to drop the blur filter

[@knowledgeablechad]

this podcast shows that if someone is outspoken doesnt always mean they are correct.

[@c.derecht3]

people lissen only in the rain this is valid in dry weather condition it does not scrab the mendetory tyre chain you stil have to come in

[@TheoriginalMach2000]

Max starting at 17 had everything to lose. if he went too hard and made a mistake and did not finish he basically lost the championship. Ocon and Gastly also did amazing, but they were like max in 2016. They had Nothing to lose. Max had Everything to lose and that is what makes this drive his best ever. When you have nothing to lose you can really take risks and chances, but i think Max just wanted to finish in the top 5 to minimaze the points lost. He drove like it didn't rain, especially the last 20 laps.

[@danieledwards637]

I'm a Lewis fan, I think that he has just disconnected with everything that's happened this year. We only see what we see on race weekends, we don't see behind closed doors. I'm 100% certain he will be fighting for wins next year at Ferrari

[@zacharyradford5552]

Lewis being in top level equipment since go karts has hurt him. Came into F1 got a seat in a race winning and championship contending McLaren then went to Mercedes when they finally turned the corner on being podium contenders. Analysts talk about Lewis not making mistakes well it’s because he’s never had to push a car to its limits or beyond and he can’t get away with it no and he won’t be able to in the the Ferrari.

[@RabidJohn]

Yes, Matt, you're crazy. The race stewards only deal with racing rule infringements. They have nothing to do with deploying the safety car: that's race control's job. And the race director is not British... Red flags pulled the rug on Max getting into Q3 and then gave him a free pit stop in the race. The idea that there was collusion involved in their deployment, with a view to making the championship more exciting, is deluded.

[@IamHailey8]

For next year, if it's close, i'm still with max winning it. If McLaren is that much superior, i'm putting my eggs in oscar's basket or max still wins it?Because oscar and lynn don't have to split the victories between them😂😂

[@IamHailey8]

I don't think Max and Lando are that good friends. I think Lando is just the type of guy who tries to be the funny guy who gets along with everybody and plus he gets a free ride on Max's jet by being nice. I don't think it's going to be very hard for him to change that and not be friends with Max. He's friends with Carlos, and we know that Carlos and Max don't get along

[@krakakapaul]

I think they are real friends. But the problem is they want the same thing and only one can have it. But max seperates racing from private life and clearly it’s a bit harder for Lando to separate it.

[@tom.m]

Basing this off what? The countless hours of publicly available streams of them hanging out and being friends? The amicable post race talks after most of their battles? I don't know where people get this nonsense. I remember Crofty implying Lando had cozied up to Max after Max became champ... Despite them having been friends for years prior.

[@IamHailey8]

@tom.m in this day and age, I also don't judge anything that people write on social media as evidence of anything because that is like, oh, we have to do that, because otherwise people will call us sore losers or whatever

[@tom.m]

@@IamHailey8 I mean stuff like them playing iRacing together, smiling and laughing in the cooldown room, stuff like that. Not post-race Twitter posts. It's just strange that there's this coat rider narrative seemingly made up out of whole cloth. Where did it come from?

[@IamHailey8]

@tom.m i don't know what to tell you. It's just my own personal feelings from watching facial expressions. Mainly from Lando's side. I've known people in my life who were friendly with everyone and nice and got along and everyone liked them, but behind their back, they weren't so friendly. They're just the type of people who like to get along with everybody. And there's something about Lando that reminds me of that. I do remember one specific time when he was asked if Max was his best friend on the grid, and his immediate face was really telling of NO. Again, just my own impression never said it was absolutely true. Just what I think...

[@PlayFloyd_IN]

With all due respect, Lando is the new, 2024 version of - David Coulthard.

[@Dawwwg]

The red flag rules are just fine ... if anything, change the 'required to drive on 2 different sets of tyres in the dry' instead.

[@nobodyreally2144]

Math is not Gunther's forte.

[@2Fast4Mellow]

Actually it is. Take for an example you give P1 50 points, P2 40 points, P3 32 points, P4 28 points, P5 25 points, etc. Even in that scenario Alpine would have gotten 40 + 32 = 72 points and would have still rocketed them into the standings. This is not a kindergarten, you don't get a participation trophy just for finishing the race. You are suppose to be one of the 20 best drivers out there. Do you get extra money from your boss to make till the end of they day without accidents? Don't forget that it isn't that long ago that only the top 8 finishers got points and before that it was only the top 6. A GP point should be a special thing and not something that is handed out for just making it to the finish line. And how would you rate the sprint race? Why does a P8 get a point, but a P9 doesn't. The moment you start thinking like that, it never stops... It is fair that there is only a ceremony for the top 3? Why not a top 5, top 10 or all the drivers that finished the race... Alpine took risk by staying out and got rewarded. Without the crash of Colopinto there wouldn't been a red flag and Russel/Norris would have benefitted from pitting under the safetycar (13 seconds instead of 22 seconds) and new tires for the rolling restart while Alpine would be on old tires. Strategy is a big part of F1. Risk vs reward.

[@nobodyreally2144]

@@2Fast4Mellow The discussion was about giving ALL places points. In your example, 50-40-32-28-25-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, or something like that doesn't seem unreasonable. Now, ending 20 races on average around 17th place will give you around 20x4x2 drivers= 160 points. While ending 20 races around 11th place gives you 20x12x2drivers= 480 points. Which can't be made up in one or two lucky races. Not that I would like/prefer such a system, but that was Matt's point.

[@Sjoefku]

3 years of f1 expertise. Lets start a pod-cast. Red flagged...

[@DragonNinja3121]

Leave the pit change rule as it is .

[@AllardWolff]

Is this a podcast or just an ad reel, jesus christ

[@avina95]

10:09 allow them to switch tires under the red flag but it doesn’t count as the tyre mandatory tire change

[@2Fast4Mellow]

There is no mandatory tire change rule during a wet race. The 'free' pitstop refers to the time it takes to make the pitstop, but at that moment you should also not allow pitstops diring as VSC/SC period.

[@vidtrax662]

Cmon vankers give Gunthier a break man 😂😅😂

[@UndercoverPirate69]

Lando tried to throw off the everybody likes Lando favorite streamer racer for the championship by becoming a man in his own vision being more tough and I think Max was holding back a bit to have a more exiting season, have more sponsors and more people watching. Max's next level does need to have the planets aligned but apart from that 19 others got the old lesson this weekend And Max has been pulling this off before on the same track passing almost the entire grid twice and still end up on the podium. That race he even took corners sideways with insane speeds Hands off the scoring system kids sheesh. Just like switching tires on a red flag. It's mostly safety and a gamble anyway. It's one of those social media bs projections for attention and in the end it's like Vettel's Verstappen rule to teach Max a lesson against weaving too much on braking into corners too much while defending and the first race it's implemented Max beats Vettel with his own fugging Verstappen rule. This was when F1 was maxiumum boring and rule politics only when Max joined in. This was many years ago before you got your pants wet on F1. There's a great hidden history lesson to be learned on this around the racing politics trap. Now Max gambled correctly, tomorrow it will be someone else. The unpredictable is what makes F1 great. The idea it's broken and needs fixing is what lives rent free in your brains LOL

[@NZLSASquatch]

Yes I know Gene! Look Gene what can I do with Nikita & Romain? Well they dont crash every race Gene! Hello Gene...Gene....Hello!!!!!

[@slopat2503]

Choke Norris bottles it again.

[@stuartgibson4397]

if you want to change tyre in red flag, you need to start in pits at the restart. imo

[@hafbintsam]

if red flag tyre change deserves to be banned, then pitting under sc should also be banned since it offers the same amount of advantage. but that won’t happen cuz it didn’t disadvantage lando during a race

[@johanburger4454]

Just keep changing the rules until a British driver wins the title again😂

[@randar1969]

Why did you even put a question mark behind Max 4th championship title? Do you need clickbait that much?

[@Alexnader8788]

Oh my god relax. Technically, he didn’t officially win it so yes it’s still a question mark if he will win (technically speaking)

[@LethalLee666]

to make this championship more interesting make drivers push more and not get lazy there should only be points money and trophies for the top 3 drivers awarding a driver because he finished 10th is stupid

[@MrAmity009]

They also should stop the time after a crash resulting in a red flag ! So drivers can finish there round. And also drivers should maintain there distance during the safety car.

[@siddheswarnahak830]

During safety car, Cars are bunched together for marshals to get maximum time to work without thinking about other cars passing nearby them

[@meelvanchris]

@@siddheswarnahak830 But they could do an extra lap when dangers passed as vsc, where everyone gets back to their deltas... Might seem more fair but lot loss fun for viewers

[@2Fast4Mellow]

They stopped the time at 31 seconds. The issue is that 31 seconds is not enough to complete your outlap and that is why Q2 was not resumed.

[@LuckyAlbo]

I would give free lap for the driver who was impedet in qualifying that is fair as is not beneficial for him to fine driver who impedet him

[@Yabba2max]

These guys are clowns, have no clue, can't understand why Guenther wastes his time here

[@johanburger4454]

look what happened to max in q2, he was 0.5 ahead of everyone on the wet yet was knocked. Shit happens based on strategy, such is life and such is f1

[@ridunkulous]

VANKAAAAAAAAHS

[@bjrnchrstn]

Lost me at “I have been watching for three years…” 🤡

[@heliumargon]

Juan Pablo Montoya rage quit the 2006 season 51:19

[@BM-ms3gr]

More rain races next season please, separating men from the boys! And to Gunter with all his what ; if you would have had a vagina you would have been a girl! 👊🏻. And please keep on winding up Max, that’s when he’s at his best!

[@hannieouwerkerk3148]

what a discussie abouth the tyreschange everyone has sometimes the benefiet of that now it was max in miami was it crybaby lando and you here what max says if if if thats what it is sometimes its my now its them

[@fredsnyman3096]

20:18 Guenther calls you out! Now I must say I'm an absolute Max hater, so for me the Brazilian GP was terrible.... i didn't enjoy one second of it. HOWEVER, the past 2 Red Flags podcasts have been painful in how much you both are suddenly huuuge Max Verstappen fans. "The best F1 race that you've ever watched".... Really?! Gushing over fucking Max. Then Guenther calls you out.... Suddenly your confidence in Max is sky high. Lando is so shit. Max will keep on winning as long as he has an ok car. I usually love your content, but the last 2 videos were crap.

[@philippgtzb]

If you don‘t allow them to change tyres then people that didn‘t pit beforehand have a huge disadvantage, but now it‘s not a gamble of undercut, but a gamble of do I make it into the pits before the red flag comes, which is just way worse. You have to keep it the way it is, or implement a million case distinctions to properly account for every condition that should and shouldn‘t allow for tyre swaps. Keeping it simple is obviously way better and there you only have the choice of either allow them to change them, or not. Not changing is massively more unfair than changing.

[@UndercoverPirate69]

Tires often have sharp parts in them after red flag crashes. Changing tires is a safety feature which stands above gambling on a red flag. Next time your bestie Lando needs to change tires during a red flag but cannot because of some Muppets on the internet having a non-discussion

[@philippgtzb]

@@UndercoverPirate69my bestie? I‘m pro changing under red 🤨

[@jaydee7454]

Matt, what is with the unibrow? afford a razor mate

[@NoNamePilot]

Hot take: Checo takes vegas. He looked good at Baku.

[@Whatreally123]

😂😂😂

[@stfu7203]

That's a hot take alright

[@Mi24fan]

Define looked good? Wasn’t he gonna finish 3rd or 4th before the crash?

[@steveisrandom]

The red flag talk make me laugh. It doesn't matter what way you're going with the red flag rules, other those who have pitted or those who haven't are going to get disadvantaged. There's no way to not have someone disadvantaged so why not leave it with the safer decision.

[@ענתבןמאיר]

Making wrong arbitrary decisions does not mak the race interesting, it's making it meaningless

[@SomaCellskin]

Had to chime back in. Lance does not nor will he ever have that championship driver something special. Even if he wanted it, he’s not that good. I’m positive he binned it in the gravel trap as a foot-stomping childish fit. He didn’t want to be there and was going to show daddy just how much. Lewis has been vastly let down by Merc for the last 3 years. Holding my breath for next year. Embarrassing end to the 7(8) time Champion that did so much for Merc. Just like when they ran Montana out for Young. They could’ve waited one more year and paid proper homage to Joe but nope bye.

[@laurierastogi3512]

HELLO WANKORS

[@__nav]

this is the only pod that I automatically like. great jobs w@nkers :D

[@diaryofawanderingboot]

Wow for anchors these guys are real noobs 😮 . But it makes sense they've only watched the sport for 3 years. So it's fine I guess.

[@IamHailey8]

If you're looking for a podcast for knowledge, I suggest you go listen to the race or autosport. You come to this podcast for the laughs and banter, and it is best for that

[@diaryofawanderingboot]

@IamHailey8 you make sense , this was my first time watching them on my feed. It took me a while to figure it out.🙌