Guess The Rank (But It's FAKER) ft. Jensen and Santorin

[@madebyretro]

hi y'all im the producer on the video here, im super happy to see y'all are enjoying it as we have a ton more content to roll out this split. always open to any feedback or ideas y'all have as i just want to make the best content i can for y'all. have a good one, cheers 👍

[@robertfazekas4230]

I've been enjoying this series with Santorin and Jensen but this was a great way to mix it up!

[@madebyretro]

@@robertfazekas4230 glad you enjoyed, super fun to work with those guys and we'll be sure to keep serving up something new :)

[@felipeochoa5595]

OH! Make those two guess the pro player but is actually full of bronze clips, get in their heads XD

[@user-wi9mt8mi9v]

My mans wrote "ya'll" 4 times.

[@LysergicSigma]

Funny video but as everyone else commented, you could have taken it 1 step further making this an actual god tier video by pranking them at the end revealing Faker killing them in 2 seperate clips as the last bonus 2 clips. I think whoever announced it was faker at the end, just couldn't sit still and was way too overly excited to break the news to them like someone spoiling a birthday party surprise rather than subtlely reveal for a way more comedy effect. Still great video but you guys could have captilized more on it.

[@taesanjo4261]

They should have included when faker kept solokilling jensen

[@dignitaslol]

I think that would have been too obvious haha

[@wnazgul]

@@dignitaslol As a last clip, it could be a more creative reveal than just saying it off camera.

[@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil]

@@dignitaslol Should have been the last clip

[@univerchizelz6715]

@@dignitaslollike show it to him as the grand reviel

[@theNimboo]

​@@dignitaslolThat's why you use it as a creative way to reveal it to them at the end. Also for a little bit of revenge on Gaker's behalf, to remind them how Faker dominates them lol Since they called him bronze and gold and plat and diamond etc haha

[@skoodlemoose]

this is so delicious, it's like watching smug wine drinkers drink a 10$ wine and have no clue

[@jal-kx6tm]

i don't think that's fair. i've seen koreans pros, probably including faker, do these types of videos and they consistently get it wrong too. lower tier players have better mechanics than people think, it's game knowledge that makes the difference.

[@mrparkx2]

Because they think it's solo que... at least I'm assuming ​@@jal-kx6tm

[@TWM94YT]

@@jal-kx6tm nah they hatin

[@kacy6014]

Santorin analyzing Faker is like a moderate chess player looking at supercomputer moves. The moves look stupid but in actuality the supercomputer is beyond his understanding.

[@dignitaslol]

Him and Jensen went in on the analyzation only to be pranked at the end of it 😅

[@gemini1sh]

Lmao nah just goes to show there is no micro gap

[@bj_cat103]

no, it's more because playing on lan with all the pressure and money on stake makes you play a bit differently than when it's your average ranked game from the comfort of home, pro players in a lot of games make questionable moves

[@Azaqa]

The clips only show mechanics, not macro, CSing and decision making, which is where the actual gap is

[@louisrobitaille5810]

Just proves that they actually have no idea what to look for to compare players' skills. They don't even know what low elo or high elo looks like because they failed to see that they were all high elo games 🧐.

[@Xhalonick]

I love this. Trolling is far too underappreciated

[@dignitaslol]

We couldn't help but troll NA's #1 scrim griefer himself 🏆Santorin unfortunately just caught a stray lol

[@scoper7897]

bro they really said ''silver, gold'' ON A CLIP WHERE EVERYONE KITES PERFECTLY :DDDDDDDDDDD WHO KITES LIKE THAT IN LOW ELO??? They dont even do that in emerald XD and little no to wasted movement too. And that galio clip? They literally said SILVER?? While galio uses perfectly timed stopwatch + perfect skillshot dodge by cancelling pathing. You dont even see that in diamond games unless its a scripter. This guys literally have no idea of elo differences. They clearly never smurfed before and randomly quessing

[@CraftRavens]

@@scoper7897they can’t comprehend how bad low Elo is

[@scoper7897]

@@CraftRavens yeah because they only play in high elo. When they travel riot gives them RIOT ACCOUNTS. which means their mmr has insane boost to begin with. They start playing from platinum-diamond and get as much LP as you get in placements if not even more

[@CraftRavens]

@@scoper7897 I suck lol always log on hopeing to get a riot account

[@JokoeurXXI]

"I feel like I was set up".. well yes, you were

[@dignitaslol]

got him 💯

[@ergo4422]

you can immediately tell all the clips are high elo because of the character control. Everyone's movement is fluid

[@eatingnemo9582]

yeah and you can see eu/na mechanical understanding is too shallow to realize even this

[@elrumstoke]

What sells it to me is the reaction timing and follow-up of everyone. On the Akali clip 1:16, after Faker commits, he gets instantly stunned by Viego, the Senna from his team Ults to aid him, Alistar Q to knock him up and flashes away, and after Faker himself flashes to chase Alistar, Viktor's E follows him perfectly, almost like a script. No way in hell this sequence would occur even in a Diamond game, much less on gold or silver.

[@MrGambitttt]

And because of the title of the video 😂

[@Belegor]

@@elrumstoke in that clip there are also 4 pink wards placed within one screen which is pretty much a giveaway that it's not even a solo q game. But its hard to notice when you are paying attention to the fight.

[@mayebeline1149]

@@Belegor: Yeah good observation. I think these guys have the problem that they only ever see high elo games or something. I'm low elo, so I could immediately tell these were high elo games because none of my games ever look anything like this. Even just the way all the players are moving, it's like their movements are too smooth. When he said "this could be bronze or challenger" I was like... no my man, no it could not.

[@wowJhil]

This idea is just brilliant, love it! I am surprised that they didn't recognize the bonus clip because that one was pretty well talked about back then!

[@dignitaslol]

We're glad you enjoyed it! We were too, we are 99% sure the last play would give it away instantly lol

[@minartson]

Same, do NA players watch lol esports at all?

[@bastianvalero4612]

Should've included the Sylas vs Akali at red buff that Faker and Jensen had at Worlds to let them know hahah

[@dignitaslol]

Ah I think that would give it away instantly hahah

[@SirDubbs]

@@dignitaslolI think they mean as the last video for them to review so they realize it themselves what’s happening.

[@julixpinguimon8023]

Yeah 100% missed opportunity that would've been great

[@ratwithahat2]

It would have been so good if the last clip was the famous Faker vs Ryu play to do the reveal to them. Great content nonetheless!

[@dignitaslol]

Thank you, we were afraid that would be too iconic so the closest we got was the Caps Flash juke but Jensen thought it was him 😅😅

[@ratwithahat2]

Jensen is Faker confirmed?! And yeah that's fair 😂

[@stanleywang7367]

Life's lulu out here catching strays

[@stanleywang7367]

I'm actually am an NA support so @KT sign me up

[@dignitaslol]

sorry lol

[@zenvious5645]

There's no way a proplayer hasn't seen the last flash outplay clip it was everywhere days after it happened

[@KingJerbear]

Yeah but without context it's impossible to know, we're watching from the perspective we already know it's Faker... but in their mind it could be some bronze Akali

[@Milxno]

@@KingJerbear i mean as soon as i saw akali zoe lvl 4 i knew it was faker caps

[@jaydee4177]

​@@Milxnotrue, but keep in mind that you already knew it was faker before any of the clips started rolling haha. And I don't think all pro players follow international events that they're not attending or have been knocked out of, so it wouldn't surprise me if fans are a lot more familiar with plays like that than the pros are.

[@BuyHighSellLo]

Ya no shit because they already told us. They were told these are random viewer's clips, so that's the assumption going in

[@Bezmenov93]

Not even that, but calling that a bronze play it's insane, Santorin was so off.

[@candleyoongie]

It was such an enjoyable video HAHA. To their credit, some of the plays in isolation don't necessarily seem super flashy/oohchallengerlevel, I think plays usually get elevated because they're happening in a professional game against players of the same calibar, so many factors beyond chasing kills matter (like wary of enemies in fog, prioritizing certain champs/objectives over others or even just buying time for the team). Hope to see other orgs do similar content too!

[@dignitaslol]

Yea and to be fair to the guys we removed any piece of info that would give away the level let alone it being Faker himself so it was super tough for them but they took it like champs

[@menchoxe5544]

The Galio play is just amazing, he dodged in a few secs more skillshot than me in the entire season. Great vid!

[@deeair3513]

Silver for santorin 😂

[@michaelzheng8108]

Na masters. That's the same thing That one there was a violation

[@remigaillard4802]

Pretty crazy that seeing a 5v5 top with lvl 10-13 people didn't ring a bell, silver players would never have that kind of fight, honestly I don't even think any rank would have that kind of fight in soloqueue, this is a obviously a full teams game

[@mewtwo87]

while having stopwatch available all the time lol

[@TheMeefmaster]

“ItS SiLbeR” these two are clowns.

[@KyleH20s]

dragon was in 1:10 so if faker probably wanted to save ult for a fight around that. his team was gunna dive corki at t1 but once corki was running to t2 he realized he had to chase

[@andrefilipe9080]

How could they not know that Akali flash to the bush? I think this became worldwide famous.

[@cadenglick7783]

The only giveaway I can see in the Akali clip is how immediate, if not predicted, the Viktor E was. Viktor knew that Faker was going to go for the Alistar, and I think that shows a high level thought.

[@johnkirk1772]

they missed a lot of things.. the alkali/zoe clip could NEVER be bronze - ppl in bronze can't move their mouse quickly enough to wiggle around or flash that quickly in an opposite direction of the last click

[@lukemcdo]

The giveaway in the Akali clip is that people actually disengaged from a fight they didn't like, which does not happen in Plat let alone Bronze.

[@eliase6812]

First guess the rank video I have ever seen that was really entertaining, what a nice twist on the original idea

[@dignitaslol]

Nothing beats a good twist 😎

[@ReinLie]

This is the only dignitas content I've seen as an LCK viewer and was hilarious x)

[@dignitaslol]

Thank you, we're glad you enjoyed it and we have plenty more coming :) (big LCK fan here, get better soon Faker)

[@ldplays5663]

Elo inflation is ruinning our lifes bro, if thats faker elo imagine mine.

[@awildtvremote7772]

>15 minute first blood >"I'm gonna say gold" Strong Bill Gates "$22 Pizza Rolls" vibes

[@JaayyBeeee]

they change their tunes REAALLL quick at the end XD . lol Great video

[@dignitaslol]

Thank you!

[@Rizvi365]

Jensen reaction at the end thinking "oh My God, what have i done!?"

[@dignitaslol]

got em 😎

[@tylerlance6456]

"at least I didnt call you bronze" lmfaooo

[@danielr9112]

Santorin is getting none of it 😂 the Galio play was unbelievable tbh. (And he gave it a 🥈 lool)

[@andrewadams530]

Bro lol, there is no WAY that galio clip is silver and there is an easy way to tell. When the Azir goes in to shuffle not only does the Galio Stopwatch the shuffle ( that would only happen in like .001% of silver games like this maybe) but ALSO the sivir spell shields it. There is a 0% chance in a silver or even gold game on any region besides MAYBE korea or something that BOTH players deny the Azir ult. Even in plat and diamond I would say like 50% chance they both get it at best.

[@elephantisland695]

Good content from Dignitas!

[@dignitaslol]

Thank you, we got plenty more on the way :)

[@Flamincow67]

just goes to show that one of the biggest things between high and low elo is game knowledge. Without being able to see the cs, rotations, and info leading up to trades and teamfights, you can't accuratly asses a players elo

[@ShinYamiZakura]

I love how they go "this could be like, Grandmaster, Grandmaster in NA" to imply they think it could be "grandmaster but maybe not so much"

[@sird5104]

Ok but actually, how do they not know this plays? If it was Faker's solo queue plays I'd understand but these are some known Faker plays, how can't they spot them?

[@aircatcher6891]

The one game Faker had a champ with skill expression was a 1v5 dive. Not to mention who tf is going to remember all these random ass clips without nameplates when you play league 8 hours a day

[@LunnarisLP]

theres 3 control wards around for the dragon fight and santorin be like "i think gold" lmao..

[@MESIRlX]

Dig content popping off

[@dignitaslol]

We are scaling 💪

[@bos7522]

Yeah the bonus clip shoulda been faker's syndra gatekeeping jensen's cassio from even reaching his tier 1 turret for 5 minutes

[@flzv]

This goes to show how high the ego of every Lol player is

[@spaghetti2777]

The thing is, if you watch proplay, you can tell these teamfights are from pro play, you don’t see these fights in diamond. Idk about challenger though

[@yvil2433]

Santorin rocking the kaypea shirt

[@dignitaslol]

Love to see it

[@mellojello5858]

Now that player is a 4x World Champion

[@gemmameidia8438]

Then 5x

[@MrReese]

That was absolutely hilarious :D. Also, I swear, if DIG gets those guys a proper barber you guys would be top of the table in no time 😄.

[@dameionarutogaming9728]

imagine how bias some of the thoughts are. As soon as you know it's a high ranking player, you open your mind to the 'why' instead of the harsh "it was just bad"

[@fuckmeditation]

my thoughts exactly !!

[@sambehling2956]

Santorin said it! I am NA Master. Validation!

[@stephenwong8053]

just stumbled upon this, GOLD CONTENT amazing lol, "NA master", "same as silver" im dead

[@PerfectZeroMusic_]

"Wait, it's all Faker?" "Always has been..."

[@jenzu4229]

its funny how unskilled faker looks like when the casters arent hyping him up lol

[@sugondese411]

It was never about the skills, i mean all those things pros did in the tournament could also be recreated by high elo master or challenger regular players out there. But the difference is that these pros played under a very stressful and high pressure environment, viewed by millions and every mistake would cost the whole game. So it takes balls to play sustainably in Pro play

[@brandonjeffries3638]

The Akali play where Faker get the kill, Jensen and Santorin are missing the fact faker dodges Victors Laser beam that's what made that play impressive because he would of died.

[@colin5197]

He gets hit by the first part of it and then kept moving... most people would dodge that lmao.

[@AntoineMARQUES-q8r]

Come on, how did they not recognize any of these plays, especially the last one is so memorable

[@Oblivion9873]

should have included faker dying to the gold brand in soloq

[@dignitaslol]

That play might be too famous lol

[@williamliu656]

Can we talk about how Santorin is wearing a KP shirt? So wholesome

[@alexmcon8696]

The fact that they don't know Faker's play against Caps with the flash says quite a bit about their involvement with the game. There are some games you don't miss, you need to continously learn. That's why NA is where it is. They never learn.

[@aplacecalledhometattooing7364]

They are EU players.

[@SamoZaZabavu]

@@aplacecalledhometattooing7364 PLAYING IN NA FOR A REASON::: u retire in NA or u ar not good enough for other regions hahahhahahaha take that retirement money hahahahhaha

[@Shiftlinkage101]

were* EU players@@aplacecalledhometattooing7364

[@N1ghtHunter007]

Ah the KayPea shirt, so wholesome

[@Caramelletje]

They kept saying: a little slow 💀💀💀💀

[@YouTube_Staff]

Nah, not Santorin rating Faker, x4 world champion, bronze 💀💀

[@bahramfazel618]

Legit such a funny video, loved how Santorin was lowballing them all

[@etoeto6754]

Yea it will be a lot of fun to watch him do airport speed run once worlds start

[@lokidosi7653]

I feel like this is a game of showing off ego of Santorin, he only rated 1 play high elo, when hes watching LCK games that are played just simply at a higher level than any of the pro matches he's ever been apart of, but he can't recognize it or he is unwilling to say that it could be a level of play that is higher than what he is capable of. Maybe its a stretch and we have the information of knowing already, but when he watched faker bait them in, lives one hp, re-engages frame perfectly, stays around just to bait azir and stop watching his ultie, then rates the play silver, i feel like it just has to be an ego thing to think of that person as a silver player when Santorin has never had a play that good on the main stages.

[@Alex-dk4px]

such a great video! nice idea, we need more of this

[@oxey_]

this is top tier lol

[@dignitaslol]

Plenty more content coming your way 😎

[@MichaelWintherAndersen]

looks like he doesnt want to towerdive him, so when it runs to tier 2 tower then its a free kill

[@imhyouka8101]

“I mean, the lulu is not the best…” literally a LCK player

[@nomad7814]

Okay, so I think Faker's stopwatch/Zhonya's wasn't a missclick. Here are my thoughts: I think the stopwatch was a reaction to the Galio ult, because you can see he used it immediately after it showed up. He just reacted very fast, so it seemed like it wasn't in response to the ult. You may think that using it there is somewhat early, but it's actually not. Faker knew that using stopwatch immediately after the Galio ult means that the invulnerable effect will wear off immediately after the impact, so he will barely dodge the damage and the knock up and will then be able to run away immediately after the ult, so that Galio doesn't have enough time to prepare his other stun while Faker is still immobilized. Galio ult is oftentimes the signal for Galio's teammates to hard engage as well, so using stopwatch early also helps to dodge potential engage by other opponents

[@nomad7814]

To add to this: Faker also used W and Q, so they are both on cooldown. With the enemy's engage, he won't be able to do much except take damage and potentially die early, so using stopwatch also buys more time for his abilities to come off cooldown

[@eunjochung2055]

This just shows how much the minimap and other context matters in League

[@Shadoken_]

I refuse to believe that they think any of these were bronze-gold players its like theyve never been in a low elo game

[@Trollthem]

Damn Dignitas are savages, they used Jensen's Nemesis.

[@dignitaslol]

Sorry Jensen :(

[@jacobjones1849]

If there’s 2 tanks in a game, it’s above diamond.

[@freeelectricity9476]

this video tells us why these 2 players change teams like socks 😂

[@bobmemer9062]

do not question the demon king

[@loganburntitus6948]

faker was just waiting on his w timer on trynd wasnt worth his ult he already had full rage.

[@Basketballinfoever]

Should've thrown in the "Unkillable demon king rebuilds his throne" Azir clip.

[@dignitaslol]

Haha might have been too obvious, same thing with the Zed Ryu clip tried to keep it as secret as possible :p

[@herrjemeneh368]

Actually surprised they didn't recognize a single play

[@matthewskullblood9778]

How do they look at a pro meta draft and not question it

[@PS3larosh97]

Such a bait lmao

[@dignitaslol]

The biggest bait of them all, we got them 😜

[@cheeto9]

"this could easily be grandmaster NA"

[@LysergicSigma]

Funny video but as everyone else commented, you could have taken it 1 step further making this an actual god tier video by pranking them at the end revealing Faker killing them in 2 seperate clips as the last bonus 2 clips. I think whoever announced it was faker at the end, just couldn't sit still and was way too overly excited to break the news to them like someone spoiling a birthday party surprise rather than subtlely reveal for a way more comedy effect. Still great video but you guys could have captilized more on it.

[@zDanielJr]

T1 literally in the scream when they kill someone

[@y0blue]

lmao the bonus clip I'd seen a few times before in flash montages

[@m0byy]

"This Lulu is not the best, but probably just random NA support" xD

[@hughienewind2608]

Funny how Faker just won 2 more Worlds after this video

[@jekster]

Really love this content and how harshly they are critiquing some of the best players in the world. :D

[@dignitaslol]

We might have baited them too hard I fear

[@jekster]

@@dignitaslol Nah, it was the perfect amount of baiting. :D

[@zezanje1]

calling the goat one of the best players in the world just sounds wrong, technically you arent wrong, but like

[@aliceroberts5928]

Three time world CHAMPIONSHIP. Faker. I had no idea he was the championship

[@sushi_17]

Nah the tryndamere one is calculated, he went to the bush to hide his location assuming that the enemy was going under tower, the moment the enemy decided to run back, he chasedd cause he knew there'd be enough time to kill, instead of just diving under tower

[@turbanheadless]

That second clip, there is no way in low elo both teams walk away from the river like that

[@xlmacro8754]

I love this. Great content!

[@dignitaslol]

Thank you!

[@DownforceGaming]

The biggest funny part of this video is jensens hair.

[@zankaa8031]

"the lulu is not the best, could just be na support" 😭

[@Shiriusa]

I was pepelaughing the whole time, well done!

[@dignitaslol]

glad we could help you pepelaugh, ty

[@TheFoolishnoob]

Im really surprised pro players aren't watching other pro games and recognize these clips. I immediately recognized the akali v zoe clip personally (but also i knew from the beginning what was happening)

[@madhatten00]

I don't think pros watch a lot of faker clips. It's just distracting I would imagine. Probably only study their opponents. These guys probably never even had to play faker.

[@Shiftlinkage101]

Then the studying they did prior didn't work very well either. I think it's insane that people don't think pros keep up with other regions, specifically Korea/China. If they don't keep with them, then maybe that's part of why they're so much worse.@@madhatten00

[@Monster_Fan111]

I think they really don't focus on the skill but on the strategy of the game. Like, the first wave = push, the second wave = call jungle, 1'30" = put the eye in birds, 5' = roaming to bot,.. and so on. They don't really focus on skill because the skill level of professional players is very near (except for star moments)

[@snugglebadger3727]

Seemed like half the clips there was barely anything to go on to determine skill level. They also think it's solo queue, so decision making in solo queue is going to be vastly different than when you're playing on a top-level team.

[@dignitaslol]

Yea the clips were pretty tough and the fact we told them it was pure solo q definitely made it even harder, but they took it like champs we think 👍

[@ShadyRaccoon1]

KP shirt ????? GIGA CHAD ! hahahaha

[@DamnZodiak]

That Galio clip has burned itself into my brain and it's insane how little credit they gave for how perfect faker played that. tbh it's genuinely surprising thow bad ALL of those guesses were. Sure, it's a small screen and hindsight is 20/20 but even watching on my phone, the level of control almost every single player in every single clip had over their character isn't something you'll find bellow high diamond/master.

[@verloreneseele8898]

Nice to see the DDoS-Kid again!

[@weirdfilex1]

Is santorin wearing kaypea merch?

[@Bobbob13131]

How can they be like ”silver” when they can hear the commentators

[@KingJerbear]

what a great idea for a video lol

[@dignitaslol]

we think so too lol

[@chrialltchief2813]

I mean if u watch Jensen pov he is in locked screen so u can’t tell his rank either

[@eveshrajman2737]

That was very entertaining. It's also hard to rate plays in isolation from the whole game so you can't really blame them. They took it well though.

[@XDeathPenguinX]

Kinda hard to believe they havent already seen any of these clips?

[@KrazyCouch2]

The Akali clip, getting first blood that far in would only really happen in a pro game.

[@hoffl09]

I would've gotten a little bit suspecious seeing the guy NEVER has a skin, while everybody else does.

[@dip9995]

Love this video

[@dignitaslol]

Thank you!

[@Darranis]

I think the issue with guess my rank is that a diamond player can very well play like a challenger on a specific play, he won't keep up a game but on a clip play a lot of diamond can play like challenger. The rank is just a question of how many mistakes per game. That's why it's so hard to judge a player based on a few plays or even just a game

[@Shiftlinkage101]

Yep, just boils down to consistency.

[@XxRDZ15xX]

Surprised they didn’t know some of these clips. They’re famous faker clips after the plays happened

[@CEOofCTOs]

This wouldn't work if you interviewed IWD 😂