Guess the STAR RATING of the Match! PART 2

[@JonathanMCPA]

I can't believe Dante thought Tama Tonga was in a tag team. He famously hates tag teams.

[@trez_tube]

Right?!

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

I love how sarcastically he said it and he probably didn't even know he holds the record for most IWGP tag title reigns in history.

[@morgandoucet4965]

Wasn’t he in one during his bullet club days

[@realxjosh8298]

@@morgandoucet4965 still is

[@nicwolak]

wait i’m so confused, Tama Tonga has been in Bullet Club for like a decade, been teaming with Tonga Loa for like 6 years and has won the IWGP tag titles like 9 times. this doesn’t sound like a man that hates tag teams.

[@bluecrasher7710]

I don’t what the WWE have said it stands for, but Randy Orton has said in interviews that he came up with the name RKO because it’s his initials and his full name is Randal Kieth Orton

[@ronnie3044]

I don’t think it stands for anything. Or at least they have never said what it actually stands for. I thought it was always just a play on the term “TKO”.

[@sandyakabatteriehuhn]

Randall

[@jamesaditya5254]

@@ronnie3044 in kayfabe it doesn't stand for anything, but it came from his initials 100%

[@MunchKING]

@@jamesaditya5254 In kayfabe, they've said it's Randy Knock Out a few times. The one I remember was when Seth did one in the "RKOs are Banned" match and said it didn't count because his name didn't start with R. It was a SETH Knock Out.

[@jk844100]

@@ronnie3044 he explained it on Stone Cold’s podcast. He said when he explained the name of the move to Vince he said something like “well my initials are RKO, which is like TKO” and he awkwardly tries to further explain and Vince just says “sounds great” and walks off. It’s been a while since I’ve seen the clip but it was something like that.

[@mattmurphy8538]

Randy "Killer" Orton has never been a thing. Any time John has stated "I have a good feeling about this one" or "I'm pretty sure", he's usually been wrong.

[@sameeknowsitall]

Yeah

[@btmz1753]

Facts

[@Banditation]

Yep

[@mikays7059]

Damn. You right but you cold for saying that, lol.

[@Mr_Leo_DS]

You're right lol

[@Lloydevansphoto]

Been watching for 21 years I have never once heard Randy Killer Orton

[@stingersplash]

Randy Orton is Legend Killer but never been Randy "Killer" Orton.

[@khutsotdbndy6244]

Lets cancel him!!!

[@Jables0183]

Randy”Killer”Orton was never a thing John! RKO stands for Randall Keith Orton!

[@BhrisMarquard24]

Randy "Killer" Orton has never been a thing lol.

[@firestrike84]

Seth and cody got the first main roster 5 star match for wwe in years, nxt was dropping 5 star bangers

[@user-fe8gx3ie5v]

Not deserved; Seth is amazing right now, but Chodey is not.

[@dumbidiot6608]

@@user-fe8gx3ie5v chodey

[@Icemann383]

NXT had 4 in 2018 alone. 2 of them on the same show.

[@GameTesterDev]

@@Icemann383 wasn't the 1 with 2 5 star matches when Aleister Black fought Johnny Gargano and Ciampa fought Dream?

[@GameTesterDev]

@@Icemann383 or was it Ciampa vs Gargano and Black vs Almas at New Orleans?

[@TakersSoulGirl22]

Randy "Killer" Orton was never a thing. I'm sure RKO does stand for Randal Keith Orton even though they never ever say it. Usually they just yell "RKO" really loud lol

[@Nyxson508]

rko is for his full length name so ya

[@jtmoneyg1247]

Yo john, only pay attention to mine lol, he was never called at any point had killer as part of his name... outside of Legend Killer... RKO is Randal Keith Orton. Honestly Randy Knock Out wouldve been a good name for the abbreviations but really the K never stood for Killer, i still enjoy the content though

[@rjgabz]

Randy’s never been called Randy “Killer” Orton. He’s been called “The Legend Killer” Randy Orton, but never just “Killer”.

[@gouvs86]

RANDY’S KNOCK-OUT. It was derived from Total Knock Out, which is a cutter. You’re not dumb, you guys are great! But still, letting you know that’s where the name came from.

[@onjohns1]

Not “total.” Technical.

[@jimmyteabag1718]

@@onjohns1 The TKO move is a Total Knock Out. The fireman's carry cutter that Marc Mero used. Which of course comes from the actual combat TKO term.

[@TakersSoulGirl22]

also his full name is Randal Keith Orton. RKO

[@stingersplash]

The RKO is a ripoff of the diamond cutter. TKO is different move in my opinion.

[@penguinbrony2415]

@@stingersplash Both are variants of a cutter, essentially the same move with different setups.

[@mikays7059]

13:14 i just realized i've never seen dante with his hat off

[@nanamtwo]

RKO is a play on TKO and his own personal name.

[@dangerousskullman163]

So glad Dante and John are back

[@walikram7255]

'I'm gonna put my foot down'.. Well, your foot's gonna hurt John 😂 Randy Killer orton was never a thing 😂

[@FunclipMonkey]

Wow the instant dub was insane. Feelin so bad for John that this wasn't for the belt

[@jessieneurotica7433]

same

[@DerichlovesT]

Can't wait to watch this video later today Dante and John 😄

[@isurvivedtheshakerheightss7922]

He was called “The Legend Killer” Randy Orton but the move wise its was never defined if the RKO letters stood for but it was never called Randy Killer Orton lol…..

[@josephrivera871]

What a back and forth battle!

[@myvidaloka]

Randy has gone on to say that the RKO does in fact stand for his initials. Lmao.

[@byronellis2195]

I loved that casey promo😭

[@texasmangabriel19]

hey on the RKO meaning is Randys Knock Out according to the WWE refrence on it

[@mrxfactor11]

John: Fuck Fuck Fuck John: Instant Dub I’ve been waiting for part 2 of this series because they keep you on the edge of your seat because of y’all’s reactions and reasoning behind why you put the answer you put is always well thought out

[@heyiamnick4144]

Personally I like to look at Meltzer's ratings since I ain't got the time to watch that many matches. I still make up my own mind about how good the match was in the end, his star ratings to me are like recommendations. Anything 4* or higher is a really good match and worth watching.

[@jordannewsom3606]

I never took his ratings seriously

[@EraDaGod]

His ratings are shit and he’s a kenny omega d rider

[@Mr_Leo_DS]

He is insane, how is Cody vs Seth rated higher than HBK vs Taker?

[@jordannewsom3606]

@@Mr_Leo_DS Because of the "in ring psychology"🤦‍♂️

[@jameskorek9726]

@@Mr_Leo_DS He got a lot softer with the ratings post 2016. He gave out about a 5 star match every 2 years for most of his career, then started doing about 20 a year.

[@offthewallFBB]

That edit at the end was too good 😂

[@ojayc7443]

They never called him Randy Killer Orton lmao

[@773x60]

John put his foot down to just be wrong.

[@alt_ronnie]

LETS GOOOO. And we back

[@lukav200]

That Instant Dub transition was so amazing

[@sophiamakin2960]

the instant dub editing went crazy

[@austinewing397]

This is literally my favorite part of the day watching you guys. Y’all kill it!!

[@jamesaditya5254]

While I think there's been an occasion Randy got called Randy "Killer" Orton, I'm pretty sure he himself confirmed that RKO does stands for his exact initials. IIRC he was going to use the cutter as a new finisher and got asked what's he gonna call it and he just pitched it on the spot. The first time I saw and heard the RKO I also thought it's Randy "Killer" Orton, and this was way before his Legend Killer days. It just sounded so obvious to me back in 7th grade or something

[@KingJadInfiniteHope]

it’s most used name is “Randy’s knockout” i remember me and my brother talking about this years ago before he or anybody every really stated what it was.

[@edwardcross459]

I mean, I never meant to be rude, so I apologize. I just wanted to make sure that the false information is fixed. RKO stands for two different things. His real life full name “Randal Keith Orton” as well as “Randy Knockout.” There might be another meaning I’m missing, but I’m 99% certain that “Randy Killer Orton” is not one of them. And yes Tama Tonga has been in a tag team, more specifically a faction with Gallows, Anderson, and one other guy that I can’t remember.

[@wilsonchadbenitez3021]

I heard an interview with Randy where he tells the story of himself proposing RKO to Vince as a play on TKO...Randy knockout is correct

[@trez_tube]

Wow, Congrats John.

[@jasheesh2k399]

JOHN WITH THE W! LETS GO!!!

[@devoncoffey9088]

I'll do the quiz with you guys

[@OmniSens]

Jeez John, relax! You're wrong! Randal!!!!

[@lizzybethmarie4204]

Woo good job John!!!! And for what it's worth, when he was on stone colds podcast Randy Orton said RKO was his initials and could also be randy's knock out. Loved the video, cant wait for more content

[@lloydsmith3864]

Little backstory on the Undertaker/HBK Wrestlmania match: As described by Bryan Alvarez, they were there live and when Undertaker hits the dive where he wipes out the "cameraman" from Dave and Bryan's angle, it looked like Undertaker landed directly on his head. Dave and Bryan have stated on their show that is the only slight ding to an otherwise perfect match

[@AccursedHawk]

Thought everyone should know that Dave rated the Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels WM 25 the same rating as thunder rosa vs Britt baker…

[@Lloydevansphoto]

His rating system has changed since Omega Okada though. Today it would get at least 5 if not higher

[@Rakmandra]

I know I am way late but Jake Roberts vs Rick Rude wasn´t all that bad (I'd give it a star) ... it was a tournament match for the World Wrestling Federation Championship. it was mostly b.o.r.i.n.g. ... variations of 'flex, punch, bodyslam, sleeper hold or armbar' with random movves in between, streched over 10-12 min (15min time limit). the action happened in the last 3-5 min and ended in a timeout draw (while teasing a dirty finish) eliminating both from the tournament.

[@henryluczak6218]

I've absolutely never heard anyone call him "Randy Killer Orton" No one ever really called him RKO. It wasn't a nickname, just the name of his finisher. I believe theres a video out there where he talks about why it's named that besides being his initials

[@IAMAdamJay]

I love the one when you guess the rating between 2 matches. Which is higher rated

[@EraDaGod]

Instant dub is good yall should do it more

[@caglarservili]

I'm so happy for John. You did good!

[@ZakuIIX]

on the topic of what RKO stands for, if I remember correctly, he used the move a few times already but it hadn't yet been named. So in a random promo Randy just claims "that move is called the RKO" . Everyone just rolled with it and it stuck for all these years.

[@jadyn3605]

INSTANT W!!!!! 💪🏽💯 me and my lil brother (who is a walking wwe encyclopedia!) love ur wwe quiz vids. Keep up the great work John and Dante much love 🙏🏽

[@WukisGGK]

to be fair, Michaels and Taker not being given 5 stars at Mania 25 is the single stupidest decision Meltzer ever made.

[@onjohns1]

Orton was never called Randy “Killer” Orton.

[@bonniebluebells]

i was at the mania for reigns/bryan/edge and. . . can confirm: good match

[@Rayla840]

I'm so happy John won. I've been really starting to feel bad for him. Great episode 👏

[@jonathanweeter8620]

I've been watching wrestling since 1991 wcw days. Love the New World Order Wolfpack. That's nwo Red and Black. Oh yeah. Say hello to the Bad Guy. RIP Scott Hall.

[@MrNobody91]

6:50 Ik this is a dead channel and all now, but I just gotta say, I never once heard him be called Randy “Killer” Orton, not the first time.

[@stuffingtonjfluffypantsiii]

Congrats on the Instant Dub

[@onjohns1]

Rude vs. Roberts is rated so low because it is one of the most boring matches ever. It was in the first round of the title tournament, and it ended in a time limit draw with almost no action.

[@leati727]

I believe RKO stand for Randal Keith Orton because he's not a Killer he's a Legend Killer

[@ethanparlee3669]

Big match John with the instant dub

[@purplemyst7793]

This was sn awesome video loved it welcome back

[@superlegoman2003]

Does anyone trust John's wrestling knowledge anyways like Randy killer Orton has obviously never been a thing

[@stevenjohn6785]

He gets a few things wrong, don’t we all. He entertains us with these videos every week, don’t be an ass

[@Tajonxv]

nobody ever called Randy “Randy Killer Orton” 😭😭😭 John stop reaching

[@RookSdSTV]

You are pretty positive that he was called Randy Killer? He was called Legend Killer. The RKO is an acronym for his name (Randall Keith Orton) Those people that tweeted you are correct. Dont defend this..:.youre wrong

[@waelag]

Big W for John great performance

[@bigrandomun9267]

If they want to do this again, it should include NXT matches because there were some amazing matches. It could just include matches featuring Johnny Gargano, Tommaso Ciampa, Adam Cole and Io Shirai and you would have like 10 matches over 4 stars

[@UltimateMatt000]

I remember killing it last time, hopefully I'll be just as good, though I haven't checked Meltzer's ratings for a while (except for that epic steel cage match in Stardom). I'll give myself a point if I got closer than both John and Dante, and an extra point if I'm spot on. Spoilers below for my guesses :) 1) Ugh I feel like I remember this one... I'm gonna say DUD though I'm really not sure, could be positive could be negative. (wow I was far off, 0/1) 2) Also guessing DUD, I know it was not looked upon highly. (Wowwww again I'm so far off!! 0/2) 3) This must've been back when Jake Roberts was still good. I'll guess 3.75* but I could see it be higher. (WHOA WHAT??? 0/3) 4) A lot of low scores today, I'll guess 1*. (I tied with John, I'll give myself the point. 1/4) 5) iirc this was the good Crown Jewel, I'll go with 4.25*. (Oh wow that was higher than Nakano vs Natsupoi ok, 2/5) 6) Should be 4.5*, right? Was iconic. (NAILED IT!! 4/6) 7) Ugh I think I know this one. Forget if it hit the 5 mark though. I'll go with 5*, but could easily be 4.75. (Hell yeah comeback szn, 6/7) 8) This sounds like it'd be a bad match. I'll guess 1*, but could be in the negatives (Higher than I thought, 6/8) 9) Oh this was iconic, 5*, first Vince McMahon produced 5* match since MITB 2011!! (Ez one, 8/9) 10) Thank god they gave the year, I wouldn't have know based off the numbers. Though this should be during the Bullet Club Civil War. This feud was hot but iirc Kenny was starting to cool down by then. 4*? (Oh wow I knew the BC Civil War wasn't hot, but didn't expect that low. Still ima take my points, 9/10) 11) First match back? Was 4.5* maybe?? (oh wow that's kinda low, 9/11) 12) This one shouldn't be too high. 4*? (Oh damn ok 9/12) 13) Sounds like it'd be low, both of those two were pretty cold around that time iirc, 1.5*. (Oooh close 10/13) 14) Sounds like it'd be a 4.25*, idk though (damn I almost put 4.5, and rewrote it, 10/14) Wagering all because all in always :) 15) I KNOW THIS ONE!!! 4.75* Instant W!! (Yesss 20 point instant w!)

[@HadiFaHD]

i got 4 of them on the dot, woulve been 6 if i wouldn't have changed my mind twice haha. Nice episode, more of the match ratings!

[@dorian1x]

I think this is the only channel I like the vid before even watching and has yet to disappoint

[@jakobwedel3168]

The fact that Taker vs Shawn Michaels wasn't a 5 star match discredits Meltzer immediately

[@wisdomrain1239]

Got 16 points, got quite a few on the dot this time around, fun quiz!

[@tanalvislovepokemongo3051]

Are you guys gonna watch Chris Jericho vs Eddie Kingston bared wire everywhere match

[@B3LiiZ32]

What’s funny is that Tama Tonga is in a tag with his brother 🤣🤣

[@Whopperr13]

Instant dub needs to be reoccurring

[@kbyah2x386]

Instant Dub: On The Dot 3.5 (2014 Rumble) .5 (Henry vs Ryback) 4.5 (Roman Reigns vs Daniel vs Edge) 3.75 (Punk vs Darby Allin) 4.75 (Michaels vs Undertaker WM25)

[@rohangulliver4269]

Orton said on stone cold podcast it was Randy knock out like tko or ko

[@cammacmaccam7375]

“Tama Tonga hates tag teams”😂😂

[@chrisfornaro1548]

John's first win in years yay

[@lucaslockie6079]

Tama Tonga and tanga loa are the son and nephew / adoptive sons of haku and make up the guerillas of destiny so Dante was definitely right about the tag team thing !

[@mortezazamany9683]

Instant dub babyyyyyyyy😂😂😂

[@mecbigmac2540]

Early predictions I gotta go Dante for the dub as always

[@raybajamunde]

I knew HBK vs Taker was 4.75 🌟 match but it should've been 5 stars.

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

there was a very severe botch that almost killed undertaker, that's why the score dropped I think

[@tylergrammer5022]

Star ratings are for the birds, Meltzer has a very nuanced taste. But I always enjoy the content

[@lord_wolf_dragon3293]

Orton has never been called "killer", other than "Legend Killer". They have never once even tried to explain on tv what RKO stands for. The "Randy Killer Orton" was literally made up by fans when he was The Legend Killer. Orton himself confirmed (I believe on Stone Colds Podcast) that Michael Hayes, who suggested he use a Cutter as his finisher, suggested he use his initials as the name.

[@pre10tiouspodcast55]

Randy has never been called Randy "Killer" Orton. Not a single time.

[@blissful899]

I have never heard of “randy killer orton” that has never been a thing

[@yoshichai4320]

The Rude vs Snake being such a bad match was it was in a tournament for the WWF Championship. It went to a draw…

[@woo23ey]

When are you going to invest in some new white boards 😂😂

[@JNM93023]

I thought RKO was "Randy's KnockOut"

[@Sizzlinpapaya1014]

I personally have never heard of Randy killer orton

[@JR-he6fn]

Get you a friend like these guys where you’re wrong but you don’t get made fun of

[@oscarjimenez8089]

A classic match

[@avoidcien8395]

John, I heard of the ledgand Killer Randy ortan but I never heard of randy killer ortan. But the comments are also wrong because in kayfabe, it stands for randy's knock out

[@LBrooklyn99]

Randy "Killer" Orton since he's the Legend Killer...Randal Kieth Orton...Randy "Knock Out"...there any names for the same guy so don't let the chat bother/harass you with the letter "K" of all things.

[@stingersplash]

It's Keith, end of :)

[@Aidenmcl2006]

I got the insent w

[@trodriguez.13]

i'm pretty sure the jake roberts vs rick rude match was so bad because i think it was a blindfold match

[@billystyran]

You guys seen that raw is no longer PG? Can't wait man

[@xavierdube434]

I got 15 normal pts and as always I wadgered it all and finished with 30

[@acenolan]

Dante not doing well in his first match back, hopefully he can shake off this defeat

[@yungcitrus1673]

I loved Punk vs Darby

[@AntonioPerez18]

Great video!