Which Wrestling Match Has the HIGHER Star Rating?

[@michaelgreene1728]

Fun fact Cena vs Punk MITB 2011 was the last time that a WWE main roster (not NXT) match received a 5 star rating! Curious to see how Rhodes vs Rollins 3 is rated

[@sticketer]

Since Meltzer tweeted about it, I am guessing it has to be 5 stars easily. Then again, it's Dave.

[@dvon1097]

He gave it 5 stars. As it should have got. Crazy uncle Dave has been blinded by his NJPW, and AEW bias these past 5+ years

[@1KQ_]

The Strowman, Joe, Roman and Lesnar fatal four way should have been a easy 5 star too. Melt is just biased

[@Izaan2810]

@@dvon1097 No, you have been blinded by your agenda.

[@gamingcollabs7267]

@@1KQ_ Agreed- Although I think most people remember it as a rare time Lesnar was made to look weak in a match, even if he ultimately won- Strowman table-slamming him twice and then pushing a third on top of him was definitely a peak point, and probably one of the most memorable moments in the last few years.

[@AccursedHawk]

Did you guys know that according to Dave meltzer Britt baker vs thunder rosa is just as good as undertaker vs Shawn michaels at WM 25?? Can’t believe some people give credibility to this guy

[@jayt6652]

Literally he’s just a bias pig

[@DragonHero-vh6jj]

4.75 on Adam Page vs Bryan Danielson 2 being a great match even when they got less time than the first one

[@IvanYamilLopez]

​@@DragonHero-vh6jjMore time doesn't mean better. Ask Triple H's career.

[@pistnbroke74]

You guys are what the wrestling Community on KZbin need everyone’s videos are the sane you guys are doing something different it’s a breath of fresh air #keepitup

[@SportsBrosByDugOut]

Thanks for the support!

[@themikays]

Facts fr

[@loganvillessbm7260]

I've been wanting to send in a quiz like this for awhile, glad someone else did it. Haven't watched the video yet, but was happy to see the video and wanted to comment beforehand.

[@OTG20]

Taker vs Shawn WM25 is absolutely goated.

[@anesseameer]

This is going to be intresting but next podcast episode need to cover hell in a cell and what happend on raw bruh some serious swerve in wwe

[@xgormo9805]

It doesn’t “need” to at all.

[@mikefedorovsky2577]

Swerve is in aew actually

[@xgormo9805]

@@mikefedorovsky2577 No, no, they don’t mean the wrestler, they meant like they got swerved haha

[@anesseameer]

@@xgormo9805 exactly that's what i mean

[@xgormo9805]

@@anesseameer I know, I was correcting someone else.

[@stevenjohn6785]

While some of Meltzer’s ratings are off imo (taker v HKB easily 5 stars) reading his ratings the other day did put me on Walter v Dragunov. And holy shit them matches are something else. Didn’t even feel like wrestling felt like a street fight in a wrestling ring, some of the slaps and spots in them matches are incredible

[@aneesisaacs8083]

This was so fun to guess and watch. My number 1 channel for great wrestling content. Sending you guys a quiz soon.

[@scottflaman2114]

I sent you guys a quiz yesterday hope you like it!

[@Fblaggyx]

You guys should do some quizes from Sporcle or something. Like name former IC and US champions or something like that. We would love to see that.

[@youngche8226]

I’ve gotten to see so many amazing things live in person with wwe 1-Mania X8 Hogan vs Rock 2-Vince and Shane Vs HBK at Backlash 3-Cena/Lesnar/Batista/ maybe Orton too can’t remember for sure all wrestle before being signed and as different gimmicks via OVW opening matches at house shows 4-HHH win Undisputed Title 5-Mr Perfect open up X8 on Heat 6-The last WWF Mania 7-ICP wrestle on Raw 8-Eddie vs Austin at a House Show 9-RVD vs Kane in a Cage 10-Pipers Pit Just to name a few.

[@oliviawallace3636]

8:50 two of my favourite matches of ALL time, those 4 women are absolutely mvps every single time distraught that statlander gets injured right as bayley comes back

[@jacquelineramirez9395]

Loved johns reaction 🤣🤣🤣 great video !!

[@reidjackson1279]

I would like to see y’all for the podcast, watch old pay per views and talk about them. Like thoughts about the matches, the things going on in the company, and like y’all’s experiences as a child when these pay per views came out.

[@owen8343]

WOW! Clutch play by John at the end!

[@luislima3476]

I mean, Roman vs HHH was also a clusterfuck of a match. Almost a half hour without anything happening other than Stephanie going through a table (I think) and nobody in the crowd wanted Roman to win and he got booed out of the building. I don’t know how Meltzer rated it that high.

[@xgormo9805]

I mean it wasn’t a terrible match if we look at it from a wrestling standpoint. You gotta look at it as a match, not just take how the crowd felt about it

[@noahturtle3975]

Steph went through a table the year after She got speared by Roman

[@Mr_Leo_DS]

@@xgormo9805 the thing is: Meltzer DOES consider this type of things

[@xgormo9805]

@@Mr_Leo_DS I wasn’t talking about Meltzers rating at all

[@Mr_Leo_DS]

@@xgormo9805 I know, but these ratings in the video are from Meltzer and he takes these things like crowd reaction, atmosphere and etc in consideration

[@FbYd]

The rating includes build up and overall atmosphere so like the CM Punk MITB one had a massive draw compared to Taker V Shawn. Even their WM 26 rematch had a 4.75 rating too

[@sticketer]

What was the star rating for Cody vs Seth? Just curious.

[@starrcade6709]

@@sticketer Which one?

[@sticketer]

@@starrcade6709 the hell in a cell one. That match was unreal.

[@FbYd]

@@sticketer He hasn’t done it yet but Dave Meltzer is expected to give it a very high star rating, possibly even 5 stars. He commented on Twitter after the match claiming it was “among the most compelling matches in pro wrestling history”

[@FbYd]

@@sticketer Yeah he gave it a 5*

[@meko750]

Definitely helped me that I know all the WWE five-star plus matches for this quiz. Think I only missed three, but I wasn't keeping track too carefully on this one. Very funny that most of the WCW matches on here were the ones that got negative stars, though.

[@KingTodd_gaming_]

Game starts at about 2:12

[@KaseyCryptid]

These quiz videos are awesome, I just sent my own quiz over called "Which Match Actually Happened?"

[@luckymerciless]

If I was younger and lived where you were, I would gladly give my time to help you guys out. But know this....I would dust the both of you in these quizzes. I have 40 years of wrestling knowledge. No way would that belt leave my hands too much.

[@Mr_Leo_DS]

I could be wrong, but I think Cm Punk vs John Cena at MITB 2011 was the last 5 star match WWE had, at least in the main roster Btw this was a very fun quiz, definitively needs a part 2

[@meko750]

Incorrect as of today. :P

[@kegplayz6293]

I ended with 14 had a shocking start but really enjoying these videos only just started watching recently and really enjoying it keep it up

[@SportsBrosByDugOut]

Glad to have ya!

[@mrxfactor11]

The comeback was real at the end! Sheesh!

[@sinjin4563]

Just so you guys know, a lot of people including wrestling historians like Jim Cornette think Dave is wrong about all of his reviews of what good wrestling is.

[@JacksonOwex]

Firstly, Corny is an idiot! Secondly, I may not like Meltzer either(Though it is LEAPS AND BOUNDS more than I like Corny!) but you can't be WRONG about an OPINION! Meltzer likes what he likes, Corny likes... well, few people give a shit what he thinks(though there are STILL too many that do), I like what I like, and finally YOU like what you like! We all might like some of the same things but we also have TONS AND TONS of matches that we think were awesome that the others probably thought was trash!

[@RealBrizz]

So with your logic they would think taker vs. Shawn was a bad match and melina vs Alicia fox was an all time classic

[@brysonoduyela5779]

@@RealBrizz it’s not their logic they’re just saying telling them what other people have said

[@DarthLolly]

I don't trust Jim Cornette on anything, he's a racist, sexist and transphobic man who has wished death on many wrestlers and backstage talent. His opinion shouldn't matter.

[@RyanAcidhedzMurphy]

Cornette will never like new wrestling because he can't accept things have changed. He isn't wrong about a lot of things, but he isn't right about everything either. That being said, a lot of people don't understand Meltzer's rating system or the fact that he has always said it's his opinion and based on what he enjoys. Like any other critic. He rates a match on everything. The build up, the crowd reaction, the atmosphere, etc. The issue tends to be that he also rates on whether or not the match its self lives up to the hype and expectations. Which is why he always rated Hogan low. Hogan was all hype, no substance.

[@playlistb3795]

Don't you be sleeping on my boy Orange Cassidy! His jokey character only works because he is an elite level wrestler when he 'tries' But that big boy match for the Universal Title HUMPED

[@connorcastner8339]

Love the channel and the TikToks so keep up the great work

[@SportsBrosByDugOut]

Thanks, will do!

[@clipzz_4u0]

We need this man to keep talking behind the camera voice is so calm and soothing😂

[@farazalikhan5242]

Damn that ending was crazy !!!

[@alexchesloff]

Johnny vs. Tommaso has to be my favorite match of all time sh*t was so intense watching it live

[@saracollinson4023]

Sometimes I wonder if Dave would even get these right even though he rated them.

[@mindyourbuisness8104]

Some of these ratings are shocking. This is why I do not understand why people treat Dave's star rating like gospel

[@whammaster]

Yeah that tna x division match was fucking amazing. Had zero thought it was the other match unless it involved kenny or okada.

[@jasons361]

Part 2 but instead of guessing the star rating of the highest. Guess the difference in between the 2. A lot of people know match ratings but you would really have to think about each match individually to think about the difference of stars between the matches. Much love as always. Appreciate the vid.

[@MRW1NKLE]

I watched Undertaker vs HHH at KOTR 2002 with a bunch of friends. The match was so bad, everyone just quietly left when it was done. Abruptly ended the night for us lol

[@BoneSoldier666]

putting melina vs alicia fox was such a good bit lmao

[@deservedstrategist]

Surprisingly, i had 13 points before the wager round, guessing totally right Cena vs Punk, Gargano vs Cole. Waiting 4 part 2 from U guys)

[@christianmcmahon1029]

Here’s a hint With Dave Meltzer, he loves the high flying and flips and near falls.

[@Yung_Nawsh]

This episode was an absolute banger boys! 🔥

[@SportsBrosByDugOut]

Thank you!

[@macaulaygreenwood7375]

Went with the same answer as John for the wager which was a total shot in the dark

[@cindyshay8983]

Bautista was born in Washington, D.C., the son of Donna Raye (née Mullins) and hairdresser David Michael Bautista. His mother is of Greek descent, and his father is the son of Filipino immigrants.

[@RyanXander06]

6:00, i actually know this one because option B was the most recent 5 star match main roster wwe have (I just realized meltzer gave Cody vs Seth HIAC a 5 star) P.s. Main roster because NXT has a load of 5 star on Gargano Ciampa era

[@tybossdude]

KEEP UP THE GREAT VIDEOS, LOVE THEM - TYBOSSDUDE

[@BoneSoldier666]

the reason michaels v taker wasn't 5 stars was because of undertaker nearly dying on the dive. meltzer said that it took him out of the match for a while

[@MauFerrer2000]

False. Meltzer said it was becuase the match was too predictable for himm, which is a ridiculous thing to say

[@Minion5051]

I liked this format better than Guess the star rating vanilla. Lot more to go by especially with the different reputation Dave has about the different companies.

[@thisguyonyoutube948]

A banger.........and we are waiting for a second episode on gm mode

[@SportsBrosByDugOut]

tonight!

[@UltimateMatt000]

I'm back, time to guess Meltzer stars!! I have no idea how good I'll be at this, but I feel like it depends on what companies are used, especially since Meltzer seems to rate certain styles above others (ex: AEW tends to be ~4-5*, WWE is ~2.5-4.5, Stardom is often ~3.5-4.5, etc). Anyways, spoilers below: 1) RIP I'm not that familiar with Rock vs Austin, but I'm gonna go Rollins vs Miz because Rollins was absolute mint in 2018. For a star rating, I'll guess 4.25*. (LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO, 2 points) 2) Goddamn, I'm pretty sure these were both at least 4.5. I don't think WWE has gotten many 4.75s, so I'm gonna go for the AEW match at 4.75*. (Damn had it the wrong way around, I knew one was 4.5 the other 4.75, still at 2 points) 3) Yikes this is gonna be low. Both matches sound dreadful, unless you're ex-WWE superstar Cameron. Gonna go for the divas match at 0.5*. (SO CLOSE!!! 3 points) 4) Damn both of these were all time classics for their respective promotions. Should both be at least 4.5 for both, I'm just not sure if the TNA one hit 5. I'm gonna guess TNA at 4.75*, though I can easily see it being 5. (Damn I had 5 and switched to 4.75, 4 points now) 5) I know this one!! Punk vs Cena, 5 stars. (Yay 6 points) 6) I know Dave Meltzer liked the old cruiserweight division, but idk how much. Pretty sure Savage vs Steamboat is 4.5, can't imagine Rey vs Eddie is any lower, so I'll guess that one at 4.75*. (NAILED IT!! 8 points) 7) I'm pretty sure Gargano vs Ciampa was 5*, but I forget. Don't think Punk vs Eddie was 5*, but both were great stories. I'll guess WWE at 5*. (I'm on a roll!! 10 points) 8) This is my first one I have no idea about. I'm gonna guess Hogan vs Warrior at 1.75* but I'm not confident at all. (WOW!! Ok I thought pre-TNA Lashley sucked, I guess not!! 10 points) 9) Also have no idea, but this one has to be Banks vs Bailey, right? I'll go WWE at 4.25*. (Why am I so fucking good at this, 12 points) 10) These both sound middle-of the pack, around 2.5ish. I'm gonna say Cena vs Truth at 3, though it could honestly be either. (Damn ok, 13 points) 11) I THINK I know this one. Gargano vs Cole was the highest in WWE history, right? I know the AEW one is 5*, but I'm gonna guess WWE for 5.5*. (So close!! 14 points) 12) I remember looking at some Meltzer reviews yesterday actually (I wanted to see what he said about Cody in HIAC), and I remember Rousey vs Flair got 2 stars. I can't image the Taker match was any better, so I'm gonna say Rousey vs Charlotte at 2. (Ok I knew that one... 16 points) 13) Damn I seriously have no idea. I'd inagine both are somewhere in the 4-4.5* ballpark, I'm gonna say Aries vs Roode at 4.5 but I'm really not sure (HOLY FUCK 18 points) 14) Ooh this could be either of them, though I can't imagine Dave loved ruthless agression Taker, and attitude era Shane was probably good. I'll go Show vs Shane at 3.5*. (Wow lower than I thought, 19 points) 15) Ooh a couple of stinkers!! Can't imagine Sting having a match worse than HHH vs Roman (at peak Roman hate), so I'll say Hogan vs Sting at 1*, though there could easily be a dud here. (WOWWW 19 points it is) Still averaged more than 1 point per question, I'll take it :D

[@thad_castle]

dude you know you’re not actually playing right

[@jonpoon3896]

Whoever made this quiz is a true wrestling match. Covers multiple eras and companies

[@XcrawlXPker]

I assume you'll probably talk about Hell in a Cell in this weeks podcast but I can't wait to hear your opinions on cody still going through with that match, holy that man is tough

[@BigRig97]

BIG MATCH JOHN WITH THE W, LET’S GO!

[@firestrike84]

Cena vs punk was amazing

[@DerichlovesT]

I can't wait for this video! Hope Cesaro will be in free agency of your MyGM Mode for WWE 2K22!

[@Mr-qi2ik]

6:38 yessirr!!

[@stevonwhite8933]

While I think Dave’s ratings need to be taken with a lot of salt in mind, his rating system isn’t exactly Anti-Hogan, more as anti-American Wrestling. Dave is a self-admitted Japanese and Mexican Wrestling fan. He was known for being so in the 80’s/90’s as well. Dave would very much appreciate Hulk vs Stan Hansen from 81 in New Japan or vs Genichiro Tenryu from 91 for two great examples. Wrestling fans from say Japan, Canada, Mexico, and the UK aren’t gonna love you for personality alone, Hulk knew that. So he ACTUALLY tried in Japan, and had some good matches. Just my two cents, love the Mustache Bros. 💯

[@ThePunk01]

He has a huge bias against HBK too because Shawn saw him as a joke.

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@ThePunk01 It’s kinda like Kenny and Corny for the match with the doll and the other w/the 9 year old. Egotistical men holding grudges against amazing wrestlers.

[@nathanbarnett4832]

​@@stevonwhite8933 Omega is more of a dancer than a wrestler though.

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@nathanbarnett4832 That makes absolutely no sense. It’s all a damn dance, if you were honest…

[@nathanbarnett4832]

@@stevonwhite8933 Yeah. But it doesnt need to look like one. Watch angle vs benoit, its actually looks like 2 men trying to best one another.

[@wisdomrain1239]

7 points total! Guessing stars in matches just isn’t my strong suit lol

[@SportsBrosByDugOut]

Still a W

[@seanwallace79]

I was there for the Hogan/Savage cage match.

[@kobainreid85]

early aj styles especially for the x division title is some of the best wrestling out there, early tna was great

[@byronellis2195]

You guys are the goats best wrestling bros in the world

[@DTLSinger]

Great quiz, not bashing the new intern, but y’all definitely need to teach these people how to pronounce names lol

[@deadzone6661]

I will never forget Punk vs Cena getting 5 stars as it was the first 5 star match WWE had in a LOOOOOOONG time before then.

[@KingsNerdCave]

It still burns my soul both Taker vs Michaels matches at Mania are not 5 stars, but yet a Cena match is.

[@TimetototallywatchCinema]

Best wrestling channel let’s really talk about it

[@SportsBrosByDugOut]

lets goooo

[@zeospark9715]

Dude that CM Punk vs. Cena match was legendary I got that one easily 5 stars and all lol

[@renafan3333]

I don't keep score. I can't believe there has ever been one WWE match he ranked higher than an AEW match,never mind that many. Also I'm shocked he ranked an Undertaker HHH match that low?

[@phillipbagley1226]

Wasn’t punk vs cena the last wwe match meltzer gave 5 stars to before that stretch of nxt gems? Or am i making that up

[@TheFriedFootball]

Yeah...it was

[@irvingzun]

not me with a score of 23 lmao. wagered all on the matches, I couldn't guess ratings for my life

[@sirkinetik8450]

This video is going to be great

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

as someone who is and alwayds will be so much more into AEW, TNA and NJPW than WWE, I still to this day do not understand why Taker vs HBK did not get five stars. And, honestly, I think BOTH their matches should've gotten five stars. I actually even prefer the second one and consider it the best Mania match of all time just because of the emotional stakes involved. Punk vs Cena definitely deserves five stars but I think Taker vs HBK 1 and 2 are both better.

[@jojo4me791]

I wanna say Dave didn't give it the 5 stars because the botched undertaker dive

[@noahturtle3975]

There are several matches he should’ve made 5 stars Taker vs Michaels 1 Cena vs Bryan Summerslam Styles vs Cena rumble Several more NXT matches He’s just some guy at the end of the day But we are different people so… idk

[@timthingsivemissed4668]

Nice W for John! 👍

[@JV3MarsM9]

Meltzer is a big spots & story telling guy

[@MCB741]

Hopefully they don’t use Meltzers shitty ratings.

[@yungcitrus1673]

Oh they are

[@MCB741]

@@yungcitrus1673 We’re fucked

[@B2-FNAF]

i got 26 points, this quiz was pretty stressful LUL

[@kylenewey9278]

The Punk/ Cena match was better hanfd down

[@AccursedHawk]

Imagine thinking punk vs cena at MITB is 5 stars!!?? Like that match had so many god damn botches holy shit I can’t stand Dave Meltzer

[@AgmMarquez17]

This only further proves that Dave Meltzer is out of his fucking mind.

[@AtomicRoseWrestling]

Just sent a quiz in from Malicious Rose. I hope y’all do it. It would mean the world

[@coltonwilkie241]

People still genuinely think that Meltzer's opinion matters.

[@jimzlat]

It's crazy how you have 30k subs in 2 months

[@ronnie3044]

It’s not that Dave just hates Hogan. It’s just that Hogan really didn’t have that many great matches. He’s name really was that good that it masked how bad a lot of his matches were.

[@jeremycastro7720]

Ultimate plot twist

[@xavierdube434]

I got 26 normal pts and as always I wadgered it all and finished with 24

[@graemewells3716]

I wish the peeps hosting were more enthusiastic or in to wrestling as well they always seem board or mispronounce stuff making harder for you but always fun see the cogs turn

[@scottflaman2114]

Got another one in the works too if you guys use mine lol Scott F.

[@dave4342]

Cool keep going

[@konnorkinser9468]

I don’t dislike meltzer he makes pretty clear that he is a fan and it’s just his opinion obviously he’s more into the Japanese strike based high spot style matches and WWE style rarely tickles his fancy. But no way in earth Aries vs Roode was a better match the HHH vs Michaels at SS ‘02 that match went so hard

[@shreddedwolf7532]

Shawn vs undertaker was definitely a better match wtf

[@RyanConnell5150]

7:37 This is your new "wrestling intern"? " *Joey* Gargano vs Tommaso *See-ampa* "?? Where did you get this schmuck?

[@feveredpanda]

You think Davey Meltz likes Kenny Omega, just check the ratings on some of Okada’s stuff.

[@johannesgabriel8320]

Where is the title?

[@KADG81]

Dante is so fucking cool. Glasses middle aged guy sounds like he is embarassed to like wrestling all the time.

[@SportsBrosByDugOut]

bro what

[@KADG81]

@@SportsBrosByDugOut You also look A LOT like mexican comedian Mauricio Castillo

[@M1CHA3L22]

I got 7/15, definitely my worst score yet lmao.

[@kellymcquay2626]

There is no way Rey vs. Eddie was better than Randy vs. Ricky

[@Realoffguard]

Road to 30k

[@SportsBrosByDugOut]

almost there!

[@jojo4me791]

Did one of them say macho man sucked in wcw? He was great in wcw until he butchered his knee coming off that cage that looked like it was made of rubber

[@kb4231]

Good lord Meltzer is moves/spot mark

[@cmpunkfanboi9353]

Cm punk vs Cena money in the bank 2011 is the last time wwe had a 5 star match on the main roster

[@TimetototallywatchCinema]

What happen to the belt

[@SportsBrosByDugOut]

it's defended on the Lumberlend channel

[@anthonysylvia6600]

Shawn vs undertaker>>>>punk vs cena it really aint that close to me. Shawn vs undertaker is the best wrestlemania match of all time and debateably the best wrestling match of all time. Phnk bs cena was incredible but its more of an iconic moment than an all time classic match

[@7Oh5reacts]

Too sweet 🤘🤘

[@JacksonOwex]

4:50 WOW! The other one must have REALLY REALLY REALLY sucked! Kept vague for possible spoilers, hopefully others do the same but just in case: future folks, BEWARE OF SPOILERS below! 8:28 Dante, that's because Hogan REALLY wasn't that good and ALL of his matches were the pretty much the same BS! TL;DR Hogan sucked, he just did! That is one thing that Uncle Dave and I agree on I guess!

[@jordannewsom3606]

His wrestling didn't make him one of the greatest

[@SeiryuuX]

Hogan definitely phoned it with formulaic matches in the West, where less is more and still gets the money However, if you saw his matches in Japan (ex. vs Great Muta), they were a lot better than his matches in the West. Not 5* mind you, but a lot better. The downside to his matches in Japan were that he always won; I don't think I ever saw him lose one of those