Guess what I found inside the WLToys104001-Teardown and Inspection

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The WLToys 104001 is the newest, most anticipated RC buggy from the company in 2021, but is it worth the hype? In this episode, I tear down and inspect it, and find a couple surprises along the way.

[@philthyco1]

powder metal junk imo

[@10thScaleGarage]

We’ll see.

[@philthyco1]

@@10thScaleGarage Not we'll see..It's a fact that buggy is made from powder metal lol

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thank you, wise sir.

[@philthyco1]

@@10thScaleGarage Pot metal would be an upgrade ..It is what it is

[@kenmastersmaster]

I don't know what powder metal refers but it's still better then all plastic like losi or traxxas

[@islandrc-duke1972]

great teardown and information on the buggy

[@10thScaleGarage]

I live to serve.

[@therchotspot]

Nice video. I appreciate the breakdown! I definitely learned my lesson especially with Wltoys. Had no grease.

[@10thScaleGarage]

It’s more common than you think.

[@RCAddictsGarage]

Sweet bro! Lookin' for the run/bash vid! Can't wait to get mine.👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾

[@10thScaleGarage]

I'm going to beat the crap out of it.

[@JoshA86]

Awesome video man. Really enjoying the channel after getting back into this hobby after 10 years. Keep it up 👍

[@10thScaleGarage]

Sweet! Welcome back!

[@metaljew4456]

Me too! Back in the game after over 10 years. It’s the pandemic guys. I hear that business is exploding for Traxxas, Losi, and my favorite bang for the buck manufacture WLTOYS!

[@Benjamin_Reese]

Cool video, thanks for the pre-run check up!

[@10thScaleGarage]

I live to serve.

[@ggwbrc]

Awesome video 👍 Very informative bro 👍

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thank you!

[@SpeedSyko]

Absolutely! Nut and bolt! Also check for grease.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Well said.

[@rayxxkaiser3586]

I think this RC is still good because its price is just 100 euro dollars only and it gets a universal joint in its driveshaft. A minor problem is that the differential gears are not sealed so you can't fill silicone oil. Slipper Clutch or central differential gear is not necessary for a beginner to experience RC toys. Mine 14002 has been totaled within 3 weeks because Wltoys has miscalculated the suspension shafts. Front suspension shafts are bent under compression due to cornering which results in steering failures and crashes. As the chassis is bent, the differential gears and gearboxes cannot be installed because it is a shaft-drive system. It explains the universal joint driveshaft system is very important. I also think powder metal is not a problem if you are not playing Wltoys competitively with a high-end sensored brushless 5.5t motor - 13.5t surpass hobby ESC-motor-combo is, of course, a good option for Wltoys.

[@alexgegorie5639]

Great Vid!

[@mikecook7683]

Awesome video and that kosmo poster is effing mint!

[@10thScaleGarage]

Haha. Thanks.

[@fammihm3651]

awesome video! awesome job wltoys!

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thanks dude!

[@DArealCHAZZ]

I always put grease just a little on my pinion and spur. By doing this it makes it run smoother and a little more quiet. Great video like always have a great day everyone and don't let off the throttle

[@10thScaleGarage]

You got it!!

[@Fonzierc]

Looking good Very decent rig for the money

[@10thScaleGarage]

I agree.

[@BanditAviation]

Hey bro, totally enjoyed that video. I found another one and said the same thing about the diffs. Could you show what you use to grease the gears and oil. I own 2 RC Trucks and I know nothing about the parts inside, haven't drove them yet as I am preparing to setup a track. The reason why I ask is because I want to be sure that I don't want to spend money on RC's that aren't properly greased. Can you share a video of the stuff I'll need to buy? Very Appreciated. I have another youtube videos for Hot Wheels and RC, but I'm using this one as I was thinking about RC. OH and btw, I'm bookmarking this video too. Great way to start inspecting the RC. Thanks for the video :).

[@PERTHWESTOZRC]

I teared mine down , checked the shocks and covered how the diff's had no grease on mine last week on my channel 😂 I also added a bit of grease on the pinion and spur, plus the tyres wear out real quick after a couple runs definitely want to check it over before running it. Good vid mate

[@10thScaleGarage]

Great minds think alike!

[@DomVito87]

Its a really good clone of the xray xb4. I just got mine for 99 bucks shipped via amazon.

[@grrfy]

4m22,"Only need one or two tools to take this apart" ...plus a blowtorch and a prayer to the heavens,

[@stephenksiazek812]

👍😂

[@draogonboy2696]

Cool and sweet

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thanks

[@GhostRyderFPV]

Cosmo Kramer? Turbo Yoda would approve. Sold. Subbed. Hook, line, and sinker.

[@10thScaleGarage]

He’s the tuuuuurrrrrrbo yoooda! Mad dude. Welcome to the 10th scale squad.

[@Rowdy216]

I was out when you said Phillips hardware lol. This does look like an amazing car for price though. Also I think it's fine for you to put a little dab of grease on that spur and pinion. It looked like it was metal on metal.

[@10thScaleGarage]

I did. No worries.

[@reverserestorations26]

I like how Wltoys gives us serious tire destroying power, but gives us tires that will be worn to racing slicks inside of a few runs.😂

[@10thScaleGarage]

Haha. Yup. Same with my Arrma Felony. The tires are shredded after 3 runs.

[@christianarentoft2138]

Adding grease to the pinion and spurr... Tried that once, never again LOL. The whole inside of the cover ended up with a thin layer of brass dust and oil... Completely wore down the parts by doing that - essentially turned it i to a fine polishing mechanism. Do it at your own risk, folks..

[@10thScaleGarage]

Yeah. There’s a fine line between just enough and too much. You need to make sure your gear mesh is just right and there are no abrasives in your grease or dirt in your gear box.

[@lukebaines7785]

Chumlee does RC. Subscribed.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thanks?

[@wade7959]

Okay. I subscribed and I rang the...uh...dingle...dongle.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Welcome to the 10th scale squad!

[@soma_rc]

Looks like they did a proper copy of the lc racing LC10 regarding the sway bar holder.

[@10thScaleGarage]

I hope they fit.

[@CoachD386]

good info 💪🏾💯

[@10thScaleGarage]

I got you!

[@admin5322]

@@10thScaleGarage do not send it to the moon as the chassis will flex and you will break the front or rear gear drive pinion

[@10thScaleGarage]

Did you bend yours?

[@trentonnobles464]

I like it when WL toys uses Phillips head screws because their hex head screws strip so easily due to poor manufacturing quality.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Haha. There ya go.

[@garethhuwwilliams6019]

Opinion on grease vs oil in the differential? I’m new to the hobby and just opened up my car’s diffs to find just a little oil in there.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Grease sticks to the gears better than oil.m, but if you use too much grease, it will get flung off the gears... you want just enough to keep things lubed.

[@metaljew4456]

Have you tried to twist the chassis from front to back? As in put something under the chassis between the wheels and push down on the front and rear wheels. There is some serious flex in that metal chassis unfortunately.

[@10thScaleGarage]

I jumped it, I jumped it into a wall, I drove it flat out into a rock, I jumped it down a big flight of stairs, dropped it from a considerable height, and I smashed it chassis first into a rock..........

[@TKO593]

Silicon oil is becoming a pain to find in the weights you need. I’m hunting for some 500,000cts for a upgraded center diff build for my Typhon 6s.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Good luck.

[@NaughtyGoatFarm]

Shock oil is hard to find?

[@NeoIsrafil]

Omg im not the only one who knows what 104001 MEANS! HOLY HELL im so happy! I've literally been correcting youtubers all month who had no clue of the naming convention they use for their cars despite it being kinda obvious. Yah, my brushless system is shipped before the car has ^_^ youre right. :D. The front and rear diff, grease it hard. It breaks them if you aren't careful. Hell, imma race it! I wanna knock some rich boys down a peg.

[@10thScaleGarage]

My brother! ✌️

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

I found 100% dried out spot of goop, fully hardened in my scx10 copy i've just bought. In the diffs and pininon/spur. Gearbox prolly dry too

[@10thScaleGarage]

😳

[@gilflores789]

Does this little buggy have the same “wow” factor like the 018/019 ?

[@10thScaleGarage]

Haven’t driven it yet.... stay tuned.

[@christiansrcs7789]

I wounder how strong that rc is it looks very cool

[@10thScaleGarage]

Should be fine.

[@overbuiltautomotive1299]

we have wet break transmission fluid aka ATF and if is thin is what you need 0w30 and so forth .think out side the box lol plus i am cheap in a smart way so they say

[@10thScaleGarage]

Nothing wrong with that!

[@kylegeldmaker]

I did the same thing when checking the diffs, haha. way too many screws ...

[@10thScaleGarage]

Happens to the best of us

[@shanec8812]

How awesome if they made these in 1/8 scale !! ;)

[@10thScaleGarage]

if they do, it better be brushless.

[@slysplasteringsly1012]

I think the zd race sway bars fit

[@10thScaleGarage]

Good looking out.

[@dustinplee5067]

I seen on a couple of websites that are brushless

[@mortonbeard2240]

Will you ever or have you ever covered the XRAY models?

[@10thScaleGarage]

Not yet.

[@vegardhaugo3999]

I bought 2 of these on sale, checked same as you, and suprised when there was no lubrication on difs or shocks, greased it up and filled shocks, now the cars are way better.

[@philipfitzenrider2547]

What weight grease should you add? 🤔 Would white lithium have any advantages?

[@10thScaleGarage]

It’s just marine grease from autozone. It’s pretty think stuff. The oil that I added to the shocks was 45wt.

[@burling02]

I always just use automotive bearing grease high heat , it's usually red, white lithium grease is alot thinner and would work for a 1/16 differential but a 1/10 needs a thicker grease inside to prevent the differential from being too loose, keeping both wheels turning at the same speed like a locked differential, helps with full throttle launches, white lithium on outer crown gears would create less drag then a thicker grease so might run a bit faster like 1 mph but isn't as water resistant as a thicker grease and might become runny in high temperatures, a thicker grease will be less likely to fling off the gears but creates more drag Thu the transmission but I'd say it's unnoticeable unless you over pack the crown gear and bevel gear with too much grease, I only use a small amount of grease like a thumb nail size glob spread it on the crown gear so no teeth are showing and it spreads its self after running

[@philipfitzenrider2547]

Thanks for the reply. Very interesting.

[@wanchanel]

Amazing ✔

[@jeffbryner5355]

Ok so your viewers will know. (besides the 4wd part) what is a better bang for there buck this wl toys 1000000000432736 or a Traxxas bandit. Id like to know the quality of electronics, how does the plastic feel soft or durable, parts supply and what needs to be done out of the box. Speed too. Everyone loves speed. Lol. Being that the bandit is 149 rtr it's pretty close to the wl toys price point. U have experience with both. I would love to hear your thoughts.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Bandit doesn’t come with a battery or charger unless you buy the $200 version, and that’s just a NiMH battery..... this is almost certainly going to be faster, but faster isn’t always “better.”

[@kenmastersmaster]

The bandit is more of a basher/toy this is more of a racing buggy

[@Jakke12]

This is an Xray XB4 Copy as far i can see.. there are some points where they saved money though

[@juantabby4787]

Original tacon soar buggy!

[@10thScaleGarage]

Yup!

[@gaugebaydo5005]

hey tou, yeah you, i love ur vids, and cuz i dont know what this means, i gunna say it... UWU :)

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thanks!

[@TeguhWaluyo-ij8lf]

God wltoys bro

[@milodecker7826]

will you race it ???

[@user-dl1xz9oc7x]

오일새는거 막아주는게 뭔가요?

[@johnmcguire8225]

what new wheels and tires are you replacing the stock ones with?

[@10thScaleGarage]

I have a set of JConcepts that ready to bolt on.

[@johnmcguire8225]

@@10thScaleGarage any chance you have a link to them? I am waiting for this truck to ship and I can tell now I'm going to want different tires for it. Also, love the channel. Keep it up.

[@10thScaleGarage]

I bought them at my LHS, I can’t find them online. They’re JConcepts mono (I think.)

[@1manrcvids286]

Never put grease on the spur/pinion. Sand/dirt gets in there and will grind. Grease is for the ring gear in the diff and silicone diff lube goes inside the diff.

[@10thScaleGarage]

YOLO

[@1manrcvids286]

@@10thScaleGarage 🤣🤣🤣

[@jimhurd3101]

Where would a 54 yr old newbie try to play w toy cars on a track have several wltoy cars 969 14thsce 12thscale and 10th scale and bucket of spare and upgraded parts yet not brave enough to go to track yet

[@geodude3966]

The hype for this thing is unreal, some KZbinrs are becoming rabid fanboys and denying any shortcomings about Wltoys. It's good to see honest down to earth teardowns and reviews, Wltoys quality control has been suspect for a while. If you need to tear it down and add grease/oil can it really be called ready to run? That's why RTRs cost more than kits and rollers, you're paying for the convenience of not having to assemble it before running. A certain well known RC brand assembles their trucks in Taiwan and their quality control is great.

[@10thScaleGarage]

My $1000 arrma outcast 8S came with dry diffs. Haha.

[@geodude3966]

@@10thScaleGarage Arrma quality control is suspect too lol I hate how they use red loctite.

[@jasonkessinger8062]

my shocks were way over filled and the diffs were dry as a bone. the metal in the diffs is TERRIBLE

[@ISOSAILING]

don't know why all the hipe, hsp xstr is around the same price and looks a lot better car, and as hafe the people who get this are going to put a brushless upgrade in it anyway i'd just get the hsp pro witch is the one i have yep it has a few problems but at least you can get a proper battery in it and will do arount 50 mph on 3s strate out the box. it's a no brainer to me lol, was looking at getting the brushed one as i race my mate in a barn all the time even on 2s the pro is far too fast,

[@10thScaleGarage]

a lot of people (me included) like to tinker and put our own electronics in it, rather than just RTR.

[@ISOSAILING]

@@10thScaleGarage fair enough, so do i built my crawler from the ground up building a rock bouncer out off stainless welding rods now lol havent gone as far to make the axles or running gear yet though, going to be makeing wheels at some point for one off trhem as i keep braking them

[@mortonbeard2240]

Are KYOSHO planning an answer to the ARMMA 1/7 scale cars?

[@10thScaleGarage]

Unlikely. They have 8th scale and 5th scale, though.

[@mortonbeard2240]

@@10thScaleGarage Thank you.

[@supocarta74]

Crap the chassis is more bent than my old P.E teacher.....flex me baby.

[@10thScaleGarage]

It’s a Bentley.

[@scotttaylor5013]

LC racing sells an Uber version of the same buggy

[@10thScaleGarage]

Nice!

[@roadstar499]

i am sure lc racing sway bars bolt right on jut like they do on 144001...

[@10thScaleGarage]

Only one way to find out.

[@roadstar499]

@@10thScaleGarage yeah the ones for lc racing 10th scale buggy will work for sure...

[@nunocarneiro464]

The chassis bends like a hot slice of pizza and the electronics are very garbageble, everything else it's pretty nice That is what everyone should do to new cars, cheap or expensive, a good check up will save some money

[@10thScaleGarage]

You bent a chassis??

[@nunocarneiro464]

@@10thScaleGarage not yet but you can do it with your hands, try it 😂

[@TheflyingkiwiRC]

Chassis is too Flexible. Tomley posted a video showing how weak it is.

[@DimiS1978]

@@TheflyingkiwiRC I can't even bed the plastic chassis from my rustler lol. Imagine how bad the quality is on their metal parts which are garbage alloys of whatever metal they can find.

[@TheflyingkiwiRC]

@@DimiS1978 Agreed. Plastic chassis on my V3 Big Rock is super strong. I just wonder if this car is over hyped. 😕

[@Razdawg22]

Well I will definitely have to do this as I found the 104001 on clearance from Walmart for $65. Really doesn't hurt to take a flyer on it at that price. Keep up the good work fellas!

[@craigjones2015]

I would put my own system in it

[@10thScaleGarage]

A big ol brushless system?!

[@dipesh8836]

Can I swap the castle 2028 1100kv motor in the Wltoys 104001

[@jeffbryner5355]

Yes you can amd explode that car back to China lol. U will have to swap out the esc though. Its a brushed motor and esc. your castle motors are brushless. They are not compatible. I would purchase a Traxxas bandit. Around the same price and u can to alot more to it.

[@DimiS1978]

Remember, this thing does not have a slipper clutch. Putting a motor in with that much torque is just asking for trouble. I'd go for a hobbywing quicrun 6.5 turn motor, you can buy those in a combo with a good esc for around 70-80 on aliexpress. But like jeff said, there are much better cars out there. I bought a Rustler VXL roller/slider for $105 last month on ebay. Even came with the remote.

[@jeffbryner5355]

@@DimiS1978 yep! U can even make the rustler a slash if you wanted too at some point. A friend of mine did that for his daughter to race with. Parts are everywhere and upgrades are endless.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Yes, but you’ll need to change the ESC, receiver/ transmitter, and steering servo. That’s a bit powerful for this chassis, but it can be done.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Bandit is 2WD..... and doesn’t come with a battery.... just FYI. It’s ~$200 for the version that comes with a battery and even that is a NiMH, not a LiPo.

[@veggera]

You can find cheap carbon upgrades for this.

[@RickWilleyOMC]

Should we do that for all new RC Cars or just that one 🤔

[@10thScaleGarage]

My $1000 Arrma Outcast 8S had dry diffs.

[@RickWilleyOMC]

Looks like I'm going to have to learn Big Rock mechanical skills when I get home from the road! I I already ran through 1 3s battery and hopefully didn't do any damage!

[@kenmastersmaster]

They're dry for a reason. If plastic or nylon can rub without grease for years and prevent drag by being dry My brand new vw jetta 6mt has no grease on the clutch fork for where the tob is. That's how they make shit these days

[@michalis5817]

The battery compartment is very small

[@10thScaleGarage]

Yeah, but it fits race packs pretty well.

[@jeffbryner5355]

Hahaha racing? I'd like to see someone go up against some tekno, tlr ,associated or, x-ray buggies with a wl toys lol that chassis look alot like my exceed terrain 10 chassis. If that's anything like my exceed it will.never have a chance in a 4wd class

[@10thScaleGarage]

Yup. That’s the plan.

[@jeffbryner5355]

@@10thScaleGarage lol right on.

[@kenmastersmaster]

Do you really need to grease anything? Pretty sure you don't at the 550 level. Maybe if you go 3s....

[@10thScaleGarage]

It certainly doesn’t hurt

[@kenmastersmaster]

@@10thScaleGarage it might cause binding doesn't it? Unless it's super thin grease. Creates a smucking effect within the gears don't it?

[@10thScaleGarage]

No.

[@RCCARSOBSESSION]

🆒🆒🆒👍🏻

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thanks!

[@kodak_jack]

EVERYBODY getting freebies for review from Banggood MUST give a true, critical review - good or bad. ALL of the electronics WILL have to be replaced. Add that to the initial cost to buy and you have the price of a hobby grade brushless, right out of the box. If Banggood wants to boost sales, rather than give a dozen of these to reviewers who will get them at the same time and bombard KZbin with reviews, all at the same time, they should get their RC stuff in their US warehouse to avoid the 3 MONTH shipping time!!! OBTW, one of the big British guys doing reviews was a little disappointed with the flex in the "metal" chassis.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Did you watch this video or just click on it to complain about a car you don’t own in the comments?

[@kodak_jack]

@@10thScaleGarage I’m complimenting you on the video you did but point out it’s problems too. I own this and other WLToys vehicles. I also have a thread on a popular RC discussion group on those vehicles.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Right on.

[@stephenksiazek812]

👍😲

[@brianlangford7278]

How about putting it on a block n show everyone how bad n crappy the chassis flex is to the point the front driveshaft can flex out,ill pass

[@10thScaleGarage]

That’s not realistic. You can do that with any RC. In the next video I actually drive it and beat the hell out of it.

[@brianlangford7278]

@@10thScaleGarage no? Well that front shaft flexing up and wanting to pop out n bent chassis looked pretty realistic, $170-80 ,figured corners be cut,all good enjoy , ill pass

[@10thScaleGarage]

Intentionally trying to break it isn’t realistic.

[@brianlangford7278]

@@10thScaleGarage what are you talking about? The not so hard hit on the ramp flexed shaft bent chassis n shoved motor out,maybe you need watch vidio,the flexing on the block he did shows how n why

[@10thScaleGarage]

@@brianlangford7278 what video are you talking about?

[@THEMASKEDMASTER]

✌🏻😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿I never said I’d like a 10 scale Wltoys 😂. I just want to know who the hell told you that I wanted them to take all their rubbish metals & plastics & turn them into bigger pieces just to make them smaller again when they break 😂. I 100% never ever would have said that unless I knew they was upgrading metals & plastics to a better grade but as I’ve said before “they Always go for the largest profit margin”. Unfortunately that means rubbish metals & plastics. & How dare you compare Wltoys to Kyosho & losi. I’m totally telling both of them on you 😂. Maybe they can get your mum to talk some sense into you 😂🤪

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thanks!

[@kenmastersmaster]

My 1/14 buggy is awesome compared to my kyosho ultima buggy that costs 4x more and only slightly better...

[@stephenksiazek812]

👍😎

[@nick92065]

Wltoys is way over hyped and their stuff is brushed junk. So many are falling for this garbage. When you spend $100.00 to get it brushless and some quality tires you might as well spend some money on a real RC not a toy. No grease in the diffs tells you they are not good quality.

[@10thScaleGarage]

There you have it.

[@stephenksiazek812]

👍😉

[@bretzeletouffeur7401]

Promoting the worst wltoy ever is sign you need to stop affiliate links or get an optician or jump higher than 5 cm. Think about lot of people will hate you after realizing you fooled them.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Want to know how to get people to hate you on the internet? 1. State a fact or opinion 2. Wait.

[@mrdumbfellow927]

Who is he "fooling". Not sure where this massive propagandic deception is you speak of?🤷‍♂️.

[@stephenksiazek812]

👍😉