GUIDE TO CONTROL SPIN & APPROACH SHOTS | EA SPORTS PGA TOUR

[@jroq1235]

This was exactly what I needed. I agree about the physics of the game being better than 2k as well. These greens play exactly like a tour quality green should. Makes the game difficult but also way more interesting to play and realistic.

[@gakkieNL]

Agreed. But boy, sometimes I feel the need to shout at my TV 😮

[@Ocyrus84]

I agree with it being more realistic on that aspect but I have to agree I like the way 2k23 you swing I have to use 3 click on ea😂

[@thomasgarcia8118]

for real. the challenge is nice but those firm west coast greens drive me insane. 🥴 you can bounce it off the fairway and itll still roll 15 yards past the green

[@Agdem_]

You don’t hit a wedge at a green in real life and have the ball roll 30 ft off the green on an approach shot, same with hitting it short and having an insane amount of back spin. It’s so inconsistent for no reason.

[@tomservo75]

Problem with that is for those of us who are not golf pros and just want nothing more than a good fun game every few weeks, realistic isn't always better. There are two ways to get good players in this game. Spend hundreds of hours accumulating tens of thousands of reward points or just *buy your way* with the EA Sports "pay to win" system (those green points and premium tiers). That's why they're so miserly with XP and reward points. True, 2K is always trying to sell you stuff too but at least it's a cheaper game up front and those paid items mostly cosmetic.

[@JavonWilliams29]

My guy, you are the real MVP!! Explained my biggest issue to a tee. You’ve earned my subscription!

[@smoove7932]

Really appreciate your insight and knowledge as you save people lots of time and frustration :)

[@phil33603]

So glad I found this video because this game was starting to get real frustrating. Seems like my approach shots and short shots either fall wayyyy short of the cup or roll 50 feet past the cup! Chip shots are ridiculous too. The hole is 8 ft away, my club max says 8ft but if I hit 8 ft it goes past the cup 30 ft smh. I’m used to playing hot shots or everyone’s golf so I’m trying to get used to this one. 😒🙄

[@tomservo75]

There's only one way to get good at this game, unfortunately. Spend hundreds of dollars on their "pay to win" system. Those specs don't come cheap. Buuuut, for a premium tier (i.e. pay us more money) you can be a 90 rated golfer in no time! I think EA delibaretly designs things to be this frustrating so they can sell you more premium tiers and XP boosters.

[@Jok3rzGrinn]

You can deselect all holes when choosing custom then select the ones you want, just a little tip or more of a quality of life feature.

[@Ma_Kachada]

Yup. I do that to run all these tests. Great point

[@eubaseball]

Great video as always, it’s always so helpful being shown how the shots work instead of just reading about them from the skills menu lol. That’s for the video!

[@Jleighton3355]

I agree with you on how realistic the ball control is and I actually love this! To me it's like I'm playing real golf and not something fake with unrealistic control. I actually like the learning curve with this game as it keeps me wanting to play it to get better. I love how they packed 30 courses in this new PGA Tour too! I've been waiting so long for EA to make another golf game and I gotta say that this 8 year wait was definitely worth it! Thanks for your videos too 😊

[@tomservo75]

Problem is realistic isn't always better. I'm not a pro golfer, I don't know the difference between a wood, wedge and iron (and frankly don't care). I don't have time to play this game 50 hours a week or the cash to buy my way into a better golfer with their pro tier system. EA does not understand that sometimes casual players just want a game they can have fun with every few weeks and not throw their controller at the screen because the approach bounces off the rough, onto the green and then rolls 200 feet off the other side. Unless you pay $$$$ for premium tiers and XP boosters - which is what this is all about - simply buy your way into a better golfer. I want you to have the realistic experience too but for me, I don't want realistic, I want fun. And there is no way to do that in this game. 2k understands that. EA doesn't.

[@jamespeterson5223]

@@tomservo75sounds like you just didn’t want to take the time to learn and get better. Your comment makes it seem like you were forced to play the game. Go back to hot shots golf

[@billhill7275]

Yes and No. Driving is too easy. And the mechanics to slice and hook are poorly done.

[@dcfcjoshdcfc]

Hi, when you mention that "the flag is actually playing at..." what is the equation you're using to figure that out? Thank you for the videos!

[@Keep_Up_Mav]

I also would like to know the equation you mentioned as I didn't catch on.

[@anthonyshealy]

South wind is my home course! I’m from memphis now living near Atlanta! Great course with a lot of memories!

[@crimsontide1980]

I'm in Memphis as well. I wish I could play Southwind even though it would kick my ass lol. For now I stick to Galloway and Miramichi

[@MrScottwurth]

At 12:20, the trick is to not only hit a knock down, but to hit a draw as well, when it's downhill like this, this gives the wind more time to effect the ball. So by hitting a draw, it comes out even lower, and doesn't spin back as much.

[@badbonzai1]

Scary, the more I play, the more I understand you and what you are saying. Can you do one of these with the arc set to full? Thanks!

[@badbonzai1]

I found that if i use a full arc in game settings, the math is not necessary, all you have to worry about is where to aim the bigger clubs, i.e. 3,4,5 iron, woods, and driver to get them to stop..

[@rickinwast]

Thanks for the tutorial. One item I wish would be changed with an update ~> Make the short game, around the green, wedge pitch shot realistic! The usually formula with a 64 wedge would be 60% carry & 40% roll. As you noted in an early tutorial, a chip shot has slightly less roll vs the pitch from a just off the green. We should not have to resort to flop shots, especially when they offer a near zero change of holing the shot. My 2¢ for today!

[@biggie9041]

how do you have the lines on your swing? like the black ones

[@blingdream8637]

How can you eliminate or reduce spin on a shot? I keep landing pin high but the ball snaps back.

[@shanew7361]

You forgot to mention hittimg high or low on the ball and what each high or low on ball shot does.

[@orangeblack1285]

I have no clue how people get that swing so straight. I'll be off to the left or right almost every time. Sometimes both. Also, 6:22 how do you get to the numbers? The flag is 8 feet below, ok, I can see that. Where does the 3 come from? And the 145 is minus wind?

[@chrishman11]

Been waiting for that iron spec to come back in the store for what seems like forever. Watched others specs return but not irons yet.

[@CamoDC4L]

I have a gut feeling it won’t come back. I’m just gonna focus on winning the Masters to get the balanced spec

[@timhorrocks3515]

Awesome video mate hopefully I can stay on some greens now 😊

[@gregpruitt1647]

So, this version of EA PGA Tour does not let you select how you address the ball to get under it to apply back spin?

[@chrisblagg]

Excellent guide. Do you have tips for anyone starting out who may not have all the control specs for their clubs and ball yet as they are just starting out as a new player?

[@jamespeterson5223]

Im no pro golfer by any means but I taught myself on how every shot, fade, draw, spin etc affects the balls. Actually playing the game and feeling it out will do you better in the beginning. Playing stroke play, you can turn on mulligans and replay your tee shot as many times as needed. It really gives you an idea of how each type of shot works and plays.

[@ThatAngloSaxonBloke]

Been waiting for a video on this subject for a while now. Thanks for the info Knight. Very helpful to my overall game.

[@joecarroll1989]

at 8:20 I would suggest going into more detail about the yardage adjustment.

[@Ma_Kachada]

@joecarroll1989 there are other videos for that explaining 3ft=1yd. This was about controlling the golf ball. I appreciate the feedback though!

[@broadwayline]

Your videos are awesome - thanks for these! Look forward to your posts on this game

[@jdmahle]

Surprised ypu didnt talk about adding loft of deloft to any shot. That helps also

[@CriticalPresence]

Still goin strong Ma K! Great advice as always, thank you good Sir! *Edit - I used the info here to play the Seasonal Tournament… all 18 on Augusta; Tournament Course Conditions; SIMULATION Difficulty Caught a -5! GREAT ADVICE FOR DISTANCE CONTROL JUDGEMENT, I think I’ll owe you a Thank you for some nice new clubs if I’m lucky lol

[@stuartaitken6128]

Excellent tutorial. Just bought the game yesterday. Thanks mate

[@blackvikinggaming]

The video I needed, appreciate you.

[@drbeavis4211]

Is there a guide about where to hit the ball? I've searched for some and no one seems to mention it at all. Thanks from Alabama

[@frankwhite1895]

Thanks man. Great video. Helped me a lot!!

[@CBDubz]

Can you do a video explain loft and it’s effect on the ball?

[@CrimsonScrewsYaMum]

Can someone help me please? I've noticed online lots of players are hitting shots with all irons and wedges approach shots and somehow when the ball lands it spins massively left or right. Like tiger Woods back in the day. How is this happening? Thanks

[@47even]

Yo whats the black line on your swing indicator that stops almost at the other line? I cant see those in my game. What is it and what is its function

[@incmplteGORILLA]

Hey MK! Do you ever use a fade to help stop the ball a little more quickly. I guess I do because I don't have the type of specs you do.

[@Ma_Kachada]

I have shot shaping on so I don't shape much due to the meter changing, but it's a great help if you can

[@incmplteGORILLA]

@midKnight I tried the new way and didn't like it so I changed it back the way the 2k23 was except I'm not sure if you can do it in SIM mode?

[@satanstherapist6401]

@midKnight I’ve noticed in the video that on the power meter, there is a black mark to advise when to stop swinging. Please could you tell me how to turn this feature on. Many thanks.

[@orangeblack1285]

Any luck finding out? First time I see that marker

[@deanoxxx7785]

brilliant info ,, thankyou very much

[@islandpapa1024]

How do I keep it from spinning backwards so hard. I hit it high and push forward, but it comes back. Maddening.

[@ajc8923]

Has anyone answered the flag calculation he used in reference to wind and elevation?

[@live4theleafs11]

I dont have the black tick marks on my swing graphic. Anybody know why? Thx for the help

[@mariokastner3192]

Great video! I am quite satisfied with my approach shots but there were still very helpful tips. I actually always hit -2.5 slow, which is why I count +10Yards on my beats and then get to the point. The rest varies depending on the Club.

[@brianwagner9518]

great video bud im new to this game very helpful

[@johnohare8696]

On your aiming arc there is a line you hit to how do you get that just got the game watching your vids great vids cheers

[@matt79hz]

I thought finesse spun more.. Ok, so finesse has a smaller deviation circle but won't grab as much... Thanks.

[@tomservo75]

What do you mean by "grab"? I don't understand what will spin more and what won't. This is so confusing :(

[@matt79hz]

@@tomservo75 grab means when the ball hits the turf and sticks. Via backspin and other elements. It's such a cool game I don't play too much anymore but def enjoy when I do. I've had a 2 on a par five and -17 my best round.

[@matt79hz]

@@tomservo75 the ball will spin back more when into the wind also.

[@thesteelehometeam]

Great stuff! Never knew this!

[@trinoburgos4041]

Thank you for this video and the previous video about calculating wind and elevation. Your yd/ft formula was pretty accurate and really helped.... however.... did you notice a change in approach shot distance after the most recent update about a day ago? All of my approach shots land about 4-7 yards past where they used to when I apply your elevation/wind formula. It's consistently been this way for a couple days now.

[@Ma_Kachada]

I noticed an adjustment to the wind gusts. If you play with wind gusts on then it is more excessive

[@joncorso6103]

I'm level 30 only, but I have maxed control, even higher than yours and the ball still doesn't stop at all. It's clear to me that the only important variable here is the spec. Basically I just aim for the bunkers on holes where I can't just aim 20 yards short of the pin and have it roll on to the green. Too bad the game is so stingy on coins.

[@tomservo75]

I've experienced the same thing. I swear I am nearly maxed out on recovery and approach control. I had the settings on very soft and very slow greens. I even developed the strategy of aiming for the fringe so that it hits the rough stuff first and that takes a little momentum off. Nope. Bounces off the fairway, up on to the green, then rolls 100 feet off the other side, and this is with soft greens, high control and high loft. Maybe specs would improve that but the problem is, those aren't cheap. Any good one is going to cost a zillion reward points and this game is stingy as hell with them..... unless of course..... you implement their Pro Pass Premium tier which is basically *buying a good golfer* and that's borderline cheating in my book. Then those same players go into all the tournaments and gobble up all the low scores so ordinary players like us don't even stand a chance. EA values $$$$ over everything. It's a simple pay-to-win system.

[@joncorso6103]

@@tomservo75 This was several months back, but I did find that once I did buy some good specs that my control really improved. Started to feel like I could hit shots like this video showed. This was all before the Pro Pass stuff though.

[@genesee_hops7066]

Very helpful, thanks!

[@jvn8095]

Whats the ratio you use to adjust for elevation change and wind?

[@andrewg-man7623]

Ya I’m wondering that too

[@2130dar]

I don’t know. Sounds like you’re saying to do one thing on one hole and then telling us to not do that exact thing on the next hole. I’m still confused .. how’s does the knockdown on the first hole just drop and not move but the knock down on the second hole ran on

[@Ma_Kachada]

The wind. Hitting into the wind will stop the ball. Hitting down wind will make it run out

[@tanakalight]

This was perfect thank you!

[@elviscalahasen9488]

Where u get that marker to tell you when to swing?

[@westsideyungin3815]

I really needed this you earned my sub

[@iSimp4Ahegao]

A year later and I’m watching this cuz I just started in the PGA tour and I literally am playing like dog shit but I was nice at Rory one lol

[@dreamtrashed]

On the Zoom Aim, am I awiming where circle shadow is, or where the blue line is falling? Still confused because I can't figure it out in game.

[@Ma_Kachada]

The circle is the variable area that it can go. The blue line is a perfect shot

[@dreamtrashed]

@@Ma_Kachada Thanks! Yeah, I don't know if it's my settings but it seems like the blue line and circle get further apart with more wind, and when I line up the blue line to flag on a windy shot, it seems to be a lot more accurate than basing it off the shadow circle.

[@tomservo75]

@@Ma_Kachada Does that mean the variable area it can LAND or where it can wind up?

[@FredoGranados13]

14:47 how do u know its playing 188?

[@Ma_Kachada]

based on the calculations from my wind and elevation videos

[@aaronboone8097]

I just want to know how to make the ball spin

[@trickleteeth3425]

Yeh he doesn't even say the plonker

[@BobbyLeeCarroll]

Another great tutorial... Thanks for the work!

[@condorgaming4000]

Can somebody explain to me how mid air spin control works. Can't find a tutorial for it anywhere.

[@Ma_Kachada]

Tap LB/L1 while holding the right stick in the direction you want to spin the ball

[@condorgaming4000]

@@Ma_Kachada thanks bro. I another button that had the same symbol so I thought it was more complex then just button smashing.

[@tomservo75]

@@Ma_Kachada When you say "direction" do you mean the direction you want it to go after landing? Like forward to get forward roll, backward to go backward? Some on-screen indicator of the spin control would help. So I can hold it forward and will that stop the ball from hitting and then rolling backward off the green?

[@ItsJustCarl1983]

Thank you for the videos , you have helped me so much !

[@granvillewright4115]

Great video thank you

[@DarthRambo]

Can you reset all challenges by any chance? I accidentally skipped Korn ferry tour not reading correctly. I can easily restart career with new guy. But I lose all my XP from challenges previously completed.

[@Ma_Kachada]

Unfortunately I don't believe so

[@DarthRambo]

@midKnight I deleted game save data on ps5 and from the cloud. It now let's me restart my career. And even better I am same level character, and all challenges done are still completed.

[@Ma_Kachada]

@@DarthRambo thanks for letting me know!

[@jasehigh2746]

I can not seem to get online as such,I’ve changed my password as my last game was Rory’s 👍have they stopped the servers for this game? Thanks Jase

[@Ma_Kachada]

I played yesterday with no issue

[@jasehigh2746]

@@Ma_Kachada it’s only giving me the option to play offline,,is there some kind of ea sports pass? I have ultimate on Xbox, so I personally can’t see an issue. I play a few other games online. I don’t get it! Thanks for your reply ✌️

[@jackmcgonegal8728]

I appreciate the effort you've put into these videos. They've been very useful. Some aspects of this game can be infuriating, particularly the lack of consistency. Using the 3-click shot to ensure consistency, I can use the same club, aim at the exact same spot, hit the shot perfect/perfect, and watch the shots land all over the place. It's especially maddening on some of the challenges when you need to do something like land five shots within three feet. Using the above method, the first four shots land within six inches of the target and the fifth stops five feet away. I have a question about spin. I have a PS 5 and cannot for the life of me figure how to introduce spin while the ball is in flight. I've seen lots of advice that says press X or L and use the analog control. I've tried all that with no joy. So, please explain to this clueless meat sack exactly what the settings should be and exactly what buttons should be mashed. Break it down Barney style (with apologies to Craig Alanson and Skippy the Magnificent). I've gotten my golfer to a 94 and have gotten by without not using this. But that ability surely would be useful for some of the crazy challenges. Thanks.

[@Ma_Kachada]

After the hit. Tap L1 or LB repeatedly and use whatever stick you use to swing to determine direction

[@sugabearization]

I absolutely despise the completely random shots in this game. What’s the point in even playing if the game is just going to do whatever the hell it wants no matter how good you are? It’s become too infuriating to enjoy now and it becomes more apparent the more you play.

[@tomservo75]

@@sugabearization That's the way it works. But you can solve your problem very easily. Just buy some more premium tiers and XP boosters from EA and your problems will go away in no time. That's what infuriates me even further. EA is basically a "pay to win" system. Why do you think they ruined it with this stupid "pro pass" stuff?

[@ryanphillips5851]

Why can’t I spin on my career? I have it on. So confused.

[@Ma_Kachada]

Not sure. Might be a controller configuration thing

[@mostresticator5]

i grinded so much for 9k and spent it on driver and iron power....wish i saw this before, no matter what i do i cant reduce spin

[@Thugonomics19]

Why you said 154 when it showed 157?

[@roryprue]

Love your videos but please turn off the commentators and crowd noise!

[@stemuhl]

This is probably the hardest part of the game to control. Thank you for your explanation. It's a shame EA have not allocated, a button to control the back spin, like they have the forward spin? This would be a great help. This could be added to the skills menu. Great review BTW. 👍

[@Ma_Kachada]

If you're talking about mid flight you use L1/LB to add spin and the joystick to control the direction. Pull it towards you to add backspin

[@cured_bacon647]

You can allocate back and top spin pre shot. Not sure what you’re talking about

[@tomcook725]

Great video, thx.

[@ItsJustCarl1983]

Ball speed on this game is so unpredictable

[@MrShaggy58]

Putting is crazy hard for me

[@Left-Foot-Brake]

Yeah chipping is not realistic... there is a bit too much run-out. I'm playing a fkn 64 degree, into the wind, onto an upslope, with max spin specs, max spin specs on the ball, max control stats and it still runs out 5 yards.

[@jmoriarty8000]

I get so confused on the math like when you said the flag is down 8 feet so just about 3, I was completely confused lol

[@Ma_Kachada]

Yeah 3ft=1yd. I round to the closest value. 9ft/3=3

[@jmoriarty8000]

@@Ma_Kachada Thanks! Didn’t realize you had that video when I commented this. That video helped a lot btw, I’m actually starting to make good shots

[@Scotty24198424]

Hey dude.. your mic is waaaaaay too quiet

[@BombsandBengals]

I watch WEEKY PGA/LIV golf. I see them do 3 irons, 4 irons that one bounce then stop after 2 ft of roll. You don't watch golf with that statement

[@tomservo75]

Nice video and I'll look at the control settings but mine are up fairly high and that doesn't stop an approach shot from bouncing on the fairway, then onto the green and rolling 200 feet off the other end. The problem with the specs is that the only way to get them is to either accumulate hundreds of thousands of reward points in a game that is so Scrooge-ish with reward points, or do what they're incentivizing you to do - pay them even more money to get this "premium" pass or purchase extra reward points. EA $port$ is a "pay to win" system, and it's completely unfair. Wanna talk about unrealistic? 2k may be "unrealistic" but at least it's not "pay to win" and doesn't make you want to throw your controller through the way..

[@dolfandumpy7395]

Good video, but damn! Use the mulligan!!! Instead of restarting every time!!!

[@Ma_Kachada]

Yeah old video. was not thinking back then

[@mikeburditt7360]

No mention of advanced set up (draw/fade into the wind) and low/high trajectory. Slightly basic.

[@poorks]

the competetive online mode is harder then real golf lol

[@litti1047]

”Set yourself up for success”, does that mean pay to win?

[@Ma_Kachada]

No. You have to earn VC by playing to level up. It cant be bought with real money

[@litti1047]

@@Ma_Kachada i mean the better balls and clubs. Do you get them for leveling up also?

[@Ma_Kachada]

@Litti#10 you buy specs from the store using VC that you have to earn. All brand look stuff is purely cosmetic. Or earn specs via challenges

[@litti1047]

@@Ma_Kachada ok ty

[@scotlandinvestor7779]

Why did you waste so much stat points on putting mate? Also mute the commentary in future lol Nice vid 👍🏼

[@Ma_Kachada]

I wanted to see if higher putting would help. They can always be reset

[@scotlandinvestor7779]

Does it help?

[@Cameron-pn5zh]

Great videos. Gotta cut out the commentators voice from the game though... it makes it hard on the ears.

[@sickof36]

I swear I can't putt for shit

[@i-sobot732]

The ball mechanics are NOT very real. No ball rolls slowly thru high rough, then down a hill or into a sand trap. It even passes thru solid trees mid flight.

[@darrenhayhurst105]

I find the game so inconsistent. It puts me off playing.

[@latenite3931]

youtubers have to shut off comentary for these videos

[@simking01]

sorry when you hit a ball in a bunker it does not roll 2-3 ft with in it when it its it stops..grass is supposed to slow it down you cannot control the laws of physics jim I hate how the make you buy items to control physics gameplay yes sure skill yes but physics no wrong ,love how when they screw up the shot because the mechanics are broke they make excuses for the games fault..it's the wind.it's just a hard hole lol

[@garrettclemmons3991]

Game is such a let down . Sadge

[@jfull1914]

I think you could make things easier for yourself when making these videos if you turn on mulligans temporarily

[@Ma_Kachada]

That's a great idea. I didn't think about that. Such a simple thing. I appreciate you

[@garrettclemmons3991]

No turn order in 1v1? Playing at the same time In 1v1 is stupid. No ranked play system? The physics with flop and other shots are so fake, beads are off. They got alot of work to do. Greens are super unrealistic, balls don't just stop on hills and you can't use any slope on the greens like in real life.

[@Gaijins]

The ball is landing nowhere near the landing indicator in your examples. That’s not good game design. That’s you guessing in quick play for 50 hours until you’re good at guessing. I understand in real life these no 3rd person view 300 yards down the field to tell you where your balls going to land. Yet this isn’t real life, it’s a game. And the indicator in this game is useless. Even on lower difficulty’s. The ball moves realistically fine, but the indicator on where the ball is going to initially hit the ground should be spot on. From there is where you would utilize your knowledge of golf to hit the ball where you need to, pick the correct shot type, and club. To ad insult to injury. They expect us to spend money on items to improve stats that don’t properly translate visually in game. I’m so happy I have game pass and didn’t actually buy this shit.

[@tomservo75]

I don't know what it is but this guy comes off as kind of patronizing. I've got all control up to the max and the damn ball still skids 100 yards across the green like it's on ice. There is NO way this is realistic I never see that in real golf.

[@leopoldbuttersstotch73]

Ball roll is over exaggerated…a lot. I literally watched a ball gain speed rolling through rough that barely had anynangle at all. Shit is broke.

[@gfoster3434]

I agree with the rollout in the rough...it is way overexaggerated. The rollout on chipping is ridiculous too.

[@EffigyOfAdam]

Wow I finally get it. Another option is just don’t use wedges and use PW with partial swings as PW sticks

[@mikegreene8461]

Turn off clowns talking.....fail

[@brandoncrow4268]

Way to complex of an explanation

[@ArizCats97]

Then this game is isn't for you.

[@svenkamog2232]

Pay to win I see 😬

[@Ma_Kachada]

No. You can't buy vc or skill points. You have to earn vc to purchase those specs

[@ProfitJesus]

I just feel like the Finesse shots should have more backspin than the approach shots. It looks like the ball goes higher, plus a lot of times in my game it does roll backwards pretty heavily like 40% of the time. Doesn't make sense to me

[@Ma_Kachada]

I 100% agree with you. BUT Speed creates spin, so I guess the approach is a harder hit shot which would generate more spin. Great point though

[@jonmacadoo8514]

Bro is wearing a golf glove 😂😂😂

[@jeffbieber2243]

How do you get those options of finesse and knocked down into your selection ? When I press my bumpers left-to-right those options do not show up.