Guild Wars 2 vs. World of Warcraft | In 2022

[@gex6616]

I understand WoW but GW2 for me has been a game that gives me freedom i get to come in grind if i decide or take a break! coming back and still feel like im part of the endgame its great for me and i feel like its the only mmo that doesn’t feel like a job

[@waltwhite8126]

Yeah, I started the grind for a legendary 1 year ago and stopped to play, I came back last month and was able to continue where I stopped. This is such an amazing feeling, all the work I've put last year wasn't diminished at all!

[@FalconStrikeGames]

I couldn't agree more!

[@slapdisgaem6601]

100% agree with this comment. It Puts adventure and fun at the core of it's mechanics. It doesn't give you this nasty feeling of having to do anything but at the same time gives you the freedom to do anything really. GW2 is imo the best feeling MMORPG.

[@jumpinjapak]

aaah... what end game?

[@dudeguybro]

TinyBlue basically admits he gives into FOMO. That's what vertical progression games are - you will literally miss out if you are not grinding gear. GW2 doesn't have this problem.

[@RakusTalent]

i played wow for 10 years and just recently got into GW2, i love JUMPING PUZZLES SO MUCH OMG on top of that exploring this world is one of the most beautiful thing ive ever done, really immersive and great zones. i never had an issue with the wow combat i like the tab targeting so im torn on this one.

[@Nathdood]

I personally still use tab targetting in GW2. **shrug**

[@karinulll]

@@Nathdood yeah, everyone does lol

[@rozalin-jc9dq]

The reason I quit WoW (played from release until Cataclysm) is because all it takes for all of your accomplishments to become irrelevant is another new expansion. Your gear becomes obsolete. Your build becomes obsolete. Your trade skills and money making recipes become obsolete. Your arena rank resets (AND your pvp gear becomes obsolete). Sure you’re chasing new things constantly, but you’re never allowed to enjoy the carrot before another carrot on a stick is put in front of you. I quit GW2 a few months after release because I ran out of things to do. It was pretty barren on content back then. I came back a few months ago after 9+ years and everything I worked on is still relevant and viable - save for build which didn’t have elite specs back then. My end game gear is still end game gear. My trade skills still matter. The mats I had built up still retained value. All achievements were still there - which granted me a number of mastery points right out the gate that I didn’t have before. GW2 respects your time as well as your wallet. Despite its shortcomings, as this video points out, it cannot be stated enough how game changing GW2 is in this aspect. An MMO that doesn’t feel like a part time job? Who would have thought?!

[@Duskets]

Leaving WoW for GW2 was like leaving an abusive relationship. I was floored at how readily the game just gave you constant affirmation for just playing how you want. Experience for leveling, experience for vistas, achievement systems, beetle races, mini games, world events - hell, even jumping puzzles. And its design encouraged cooperation and fosters a community which works together instead of just tagging mobs for a breadcrumb of experience. I feel appreciated, and that my time is actually yielding something with GW2.

[@wingnutmcspazatron3957]

100%, nail on the head.

[@Who_Does]

I played most MMO's anyone can name, WoW is awesome of that traditional MMO I grew up with but GW2 feels like an entirely new genre with the experience I get. GW2 is where I go back to after getting tired of other MMOs.

[@RakusTalent]

playing wow for 10 years i think that the game looks awesome so do the zones but the feeling i got exploring guild wars 2 is just insane if you are big into exploring beautiful areas this is the mmorpg to play

[@Skeletoncross]

Go play elden ring then come back. Both of these games are awful

[@BananaPistol]

@@Skeletoncross Didn't know Elden ring was an MMORPG, very epic.

[@FalconStrikeGames]

@@Skeletoncross why so much hate my dood?

[@gahndilr]

Well it comes down to not knowing the difference between open world dark souls and a mmo...this alone eliminates validity of these comments

[@envyhysteria]

@@Skeletoncross 8==> head

[@NUKERADE]

There is no MMO like GW2. The unique classes, specializations, skills, jobs, the amazing and diverse map, THE VIEWS, an amazing story, customization, unique mounts, a good player base economy, character design, mobs design, world bosses, and finally and most important, THE LEAST TOXIC COMMUNITY, they all made me feel welcome since day 1, in every single server, without a doubt the best gaming community. If you thinking on joining GW2 in 2023, you should really do it, there is no regrets, you will fall in love with it.

[@berkofuri]

you are man bro

[@shiniestskritt2865]

If you have tons of unused leveling tomes in GW2, they're good to consume at max level to earn spirit shards (end game currency). Alternatively, you can save a lot of time on weekly personal story key farming with leveling tomes.

[@henrylauer5402]

I didn't know that, I have so many

[@ivofena83]

What do I need spirit shards for?

[@Navajonkee]

@@ivofena83 Not an awful lot of things. It's primarily used for purchasing various items used in crafting ascended and legendary items. Unless your primary focus is legendary farming, you will hardly run out of shards in my opinion.

[@ivofena83]

@@Navajonkee Thank you.

You can also use them to convert materials for profit

[@Psoewish]

The biggest draw for me in gw2 is that it’s a completionist’s dream. Even if there’s no power progression, there’s always new achievements to get, more skins, more titles, etc. it is what has kept the game alive for me since launch.

[@jumpinjapak]

Or you can simply buy off 80% of the fashion in game through wallet with minimum effort.

[@ioverslept.]

@@jumpinjapak same with wow?

[@jumpinjapak]

@@ioverslept. yup glad we can skip boring gold farms and buy off stuff we like for less effort

[@milandjukic4583]

@@jumpinjapak i mean if you dont like getting everything by paying cash just do it by yourself? you can buy almost anything with in game gold in gw2

[@jumpinjapak]

@@milandjukic4583 So you don't mind some one literally grinding for days to get legendary weapons and cool cosmetics which is end game ( I mean looking cool) and others just swiping card in secs? What is this a single player game?

[@kyleblaneplays]

Just recently hit level 80 and completed the Personal Story in Guild Wars 2 and I can’t say enough good things about it. Enjoyed the video 👍🏻

[@matias0007h]

if you have expansion there is difficulty spike in HoT based on LW S2. Just be ready for it, it's rewarding. All the LW are worthed if you have spare money it's like story dlc with lot of contents and quality of life things. If you don't have full exotic gear and have just full rare one you can still play HoT and get easily exotic through verdant brink bladed armor. Just have fun and if you have/will have hard time in HoT, it's normally. If you don't have expansions then dungeons/strait maps provide good exotic gear also but it's not stat selectible/all stats selectible

[@kyleblaneplays]

@@matias0007h Thanks for the tips! I do indeed have the expansions, and EoD. Thankfully I have a great group of friends who I play with, some who are very experienced, so if I ever have trouble with something I can ask them to tag along.

[@Arrow333]

@@kyleblaneplays Hi Kyle. I still have to watch your latest videos so I am not up to date with your current progress. But if you have beaten the first elder dragon, you should first watch a summary on living world season 1 on youtube. There is a 2h30m...ish video. I am sure your guild mates can help you find it. Season 1 is actually missing in the game because it was done as a series of live updates and also some "once in a lifetime" events. Even though some of the components have made a comeback, there is no coherent way of reliving that experience. Without the missing pieces you will meet some new characters that were introduced in season 1 and might confuse you. That missing of season 1 is actually a drawback, as well as the need to buy the living world seasons, when it comes to the story chapter of this video. I still love the GW2 story and these drawbacks are less about the story itself but it's availability. I think they should update the Season 1 summary to include the resurged content in the game as optional elements and make season 2 part of the f2p content. Season 2 episodes do not have the same quality of content as the later seasons have anyway.

[@Gworan]

If you thought levelling and personal story was good you're in for a treat with the expansions and living world seasons, they make the base game look like c#&p, but be ready for a pretty big difficulty spike

[@FalconStrikeGames]

@@matias0007h100% i can confirm this. I played through the personal story up until HOTs and then quit because it was waaaaaay harder. I just recently came back a few weeks ago, did some research on my character and made a build that was actually viable. Im currently playing through HOTs now and while it is still difficult, finding the proper build has made playing a lot easier.

[@iryoku2]

Honestly, I think you pretty much nailed it. I would say that for me GW2 wins over all, and if I had to pick a single reason to give for why, it would be because GW2 respects my time, and doesn't treat me like a metric. WoW only seems to care about maximizing their MAUs, making sure I log in every day, and twisting my arm to make sure I participate in every aspect of the game, even the parts I don't really enjoy. It relies heavily on FOMO and other manipulative psychologic techniques to trick players into thinking that they have to play constantly, which just makes everything feel like a massive chore, even if I would otherwise enjoy it. GW2 on the other hand doesn't seem to care if I don't log in for 6 months. I can play when I want, do the content I want, and not feel like the game is trying to force me to do everything, every day to fill up an arbitrary bar or else! It's certainly not a perfect game, and I'm pretty sure I would get bored very quickly if I tried to play it exclusively, but it's a great game to play casually and something to play when I'm feeling a little burned out on other games. But besides that big primary reason, I'm also a sucker for a good story, and while no, GW2's story is not as good as FFXIV's, not even close, it still absolutely destroys WoW's story. The beginning is a bit rough and there are some pacing issues throughout, but once you get into Living World season 2, it's a genuinely well written, and well presented story.

[@briandfox16]

You're right. You put it into words I couldn't. GW2 respects your time. I just got lost in the games progression because I hit the level cap from just casual pvp and missed the story. Basically, I don't know where to pickup where I left off, but I want to go back and fo the story of the original game and both Xpacs that I have. I accidentally leapfroged into fractals and have my ascended gear plus but missed so much.

[@Arrow333]

@@briandfox16 That is actually a good point for GW2 as well: You can level how you want and do content in the order you want. Which - on the other hand - can also lead to missing out on some stuff or getting confused as a result. Freedom of choice always comes with the responsibility of dealing with the results of your choices :)

[@ROCKNROLL947]

FF14 is soo overrated...even the story

[@iryoku2]

@@ROCKNROLL947 That is your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it, but I personally feel like it deserves every bit of praise it receives. It is, to put it simply, one of the best stories I have had the pleasure of experiencing, not just in gaming, but in any medium. But no story can resonate with everyone, and if you have played through the FFXIV story and didn't care for it, that's fine. I'm not particularly concerned with whether you or anyone else agrees with me or not.

[@lillithsummers8817]

FF14 has a good story, but I don’t enjoy 30 minute cut scenes one after another to get to it. I am not a huge fan of being forced into dungeons or raids to progress either , so GW2 has (for me) the perfect level/story experience.

[@finitesound]

This desperately needs an up date. 2022 was a massive year for GW2.

[@SeeHang]

it’s ok wow players can have their lack luster quest mode. but they know gw2 is better because diablo is just copying all the game mechanics from gw2. blizzard is dead and not really innovating anymore… also so many things he stated about gw2 leveling is wrong. there is about 6 different ways to level up. can’t believe he was a partner with arena net

[@2yt4u.14.]

df is a massive thing for wow too. so it needs to be remade

[@hunterofemotion]

Why?

[@kyuumons]

In regards to the comment on GW2 getting new expansions being iffy, Arenanet has recently given a long term roadmap confirming a 4th expansion already!!

[@TinyBlueGames]

Yes! I saw this. So exciting! Thanks for watching and commenting :)

[@xanira6367]

Definitely disagree when it comes to the gw2 story. Ofc the delivery is subjective, but the lore and story are both very fleshed out, and actually make sense unlike wow

[@kelsy5552]

I agree with this, with how WoW has done their story now its almost like its story and lore doesn't matter. If you're a new player you just drop right in to BFA and skip over ANY of the previous stories. Makes me sad.

[@Mighty2C]

Lol… the story of wow make sense too, maybe shadowlands was a bit off, but you can’t throw that the story doesn’t make sense just for one extension.

[@chiefpurrfect8389]

I feel like the criticism is fair for GW2's *core game* story, but that's about it. The core story is the only aspect of GW2 that truly shows its age in 2022 imo, especially when it comes to the mechanics. And it's not even that the story itself is that bad honestly. It has good concepts/elements but they're executed kinda poorly and it feels needlessly drawn out. But beyond that, I've had a good time with all the expansions, as well as all Living World seasons- some more so than others, but it's all been at the very least solid- never feeling like a chore as the core story sometimes did. The writers really put in the effort to fix a lot of what I took issue with in the core story (we got better dialogue, characterization, pacing and overall better stories told in a better way). As for WoW- and it's been years since I last played- though I do not remember actively disliking the story, I certainly didn't love it either and none of it stuck with me. Again, not for the lack of potential. I really like the world of WoW. It just seems like the writers refuse to shake the status quo in any meaningful way, making the story/lore feel stagnant even so many years later. It's just Alliance vs Horde and then some Alliance and Horde in-fighting, over and over and over and over. Bleh. At least GW2 does a good job of making you feel like the things YOU do leave their mark on Tyria in tangible ways.

[@chrishernandez1589]

You forgot to mention masteries in the leveling portion of the video for GW 2. You do have to level these, earn and use mastery points effectively raising your mastery level. Also, tomes of knowledge can be used to obtain more spirit shards which are used for endgame recipes like legendary weapons / armor and other items

[@bopo900]

maybe watch the whole video next time. he did mention masteries.

[@talizorahnarrayya5916]

@@bopo900 he meant leveling them, not using them as a "power". You need to level the mastery and spend a mastery point to access it, that would fall under leveling. Using the mastery would fall under character progression. Or you can see it the other way around and tie the mastery leveling to character progression. It's subjective.

[@alfreddrewes9362]

I've only started playing GW2, but one of the things that I noticed is that you get XP for doing any activity. This a really good thing because it means no matter how you play, you're going to level up.

[@bejeh79]

I remember when i went AFK, and randomly got XP because i was in event zone

[@dragoonism]

You can hit 80 by exploring and gathering resources. How cool is that 😎

[@danielp8433]

I started gw2 this year, amazing game, best mmo community too

[@prolimar7113]

10 Year vet in both. I prefer action combat. Dark Souls series, Devil May Cry series, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima etc... I feel more engaged with a stamina bar, dodge rolls and I-frames, positioning (NOT L.O.S'ing!). The cast bars and channeling spells were fun as a kid but not so much anymore...

[@SuTheory]

I've started playing Dark Souls 3 some time ago and I REALLY like the aesthetic and just the way the armor and weapons look. I've been on the look for a multiplayer focused game that has a similar badass look like Dark souls but maybe in mmorpg style where you can actually interact with people more easily and often if you know anything by chance?

[@prolimar7113]

@@SuTheory Im assuming u tried GW2?

[@SuTheory]

@@prolimar7113 nope, I'm heavily considering tho. You think this is kind of what I'm talking about from your experience with GW2?

[@prolimar7113]

@@SuTheory Ashthetically, not exactly. You will find some areas to be similar, but there are also lush green and "prettier" areas as well. When I says it leans towards Dark Souls, I meant through the perspective of combat. But there are weps n armor that you can transmute to your current armor to look like a souls series type character. In my opinion i recommend you give it a shot and make the conclusion yourself because one of the best parts of the game is that its free lol. Theres literally nothing to lose as I can guarantee it will not be a waste of time. The community will def make you feel welcome. Have at it!

[@Arrow333]

Great video. In some cases I don't completely agree with the final assessment though, but that might come to a matter of taste and preferences. As the Open World is just one flavour of pve content, the pve section might need a new title if you do your next update on this one: Something like grouped, instanced or structured pve. The fact that you only covered the instanced pve content under this section also shows a general misconception often leading to the false conclusion that there is "not much to do" at max level just because the number of instanced pve installments is low in comparison and many players are used to these being the only source of (fake) meaningful character progression. Fake, because this progression gets invalidated pretty regularly - in case of WoW with the next patch or expansion. This, by the way, is why I disagree with you on the final progression systems assessment.

[@TinyBlueGames]

Hi Arrow333! Firs of all, thank you for watching and understanding that some of the points discussed in this video will come down to personal taste and preference. This alone allows us to have a productive conversation about our different point of view. I found the content section to be the most difficult part of this video to make as unless I summarized it dramatically it would have made the video incredibly long. You make some really good points in favor of GW2 and I think it ultimately comes down to which type of content you value the most. Personally, I value instanced content the most in my MMOs, but this does not mean that my point of view is categorically "right". The most fun I had in GW2 was the 9 months after HOT launched where the game introduced a new 3 boss raid wing every 3 months or so. I appreciate you adding some more colour to this section with your own point of view. Thanks for commenting

[@Arrow333]

@@TinyBlueGames I think it is a pretty good time for MMORPG fans, as we have a lot of games out there that are suited for different kinds of people. It is pretty much "tell me what type of content you would like to engage with and I can tell you the MMORPG that best suits you". Like for story you go to FF14, TESO, maybe even SW:ToR (haven't played that in ages). Action combat might feel best in BDO, while GW2 has it's benefit of bringing both worlds together. The new entries like SOLO, Elyon, New World, Lost Ark still have to find their place, if they are even able to survive (pretty sure Lost Ark will stay). Videos like yours help players to find the right game for them, when they know what type of player they are. There are still so many peole just asking "which game should I play" followed by "which class should I play" and then finding out that they don't like what they got in the end.

[@Lyssarah28]

Okay so here are my 2 cents as I have played wow on and off for 16-17 years until I finally quit back in Feb 2022 for good (I hope). I strongly disagree with the leveling. Leveling used to be my fav thing to do in WoW back in the day. Blizzard has done absolutely nothing to evolve leveling. in fact, it is worse cos it is so dog shit easy. And every time i level a new character I feel like I would have more fun gushing my eyes out. While in guild wars 2 the leveling is so different it feels fresh. It could also be the fact that I played Wow for 16 odd years before I quit for good and I have only been playing GW2 for a few months now but for once I am enjoying leveling again. Lastly, The Mythic + system was fun back in legion but imo it is so stale and boring today. Just thinking about mists or TOP or NW makes me want to gag. You run the same dungeon 50+ times in hoping your BIS item will drop and each season it is rinse and repeat. they don't even bother to introduce new dungeons or introduce old dungeons into the mythic plus pool. Raids was WoWs selling point for a long time for endgame and now it is mediocre at best. I wish wow was the better game but I'm sorry if anyone takes offense to this comment BUT wow on its own is mediocre at best and let's not even talk about the toxic community where all they care about is high parsing, which imo sucks all the fun out of the game.

[@FalconStrikeGames]

I'm very excited to see what happens to GW2 after it drops on Steam.

[@johnalfaro4779]

guild wars 2 for the win

[@marcausn]

i was so stupid to buy end of dragons (even the ultimate ed.)... i played it through, even "fetched" the turtle -> i was so disappointed, i completely retired from gw2... good job, AN

[@ghostmourn]

Guild Wars is killing it now! Things are looking up for GW2 - its been a real suprise. I love both these games but im going hard in GW2 atm and I'm really enjoying it

[@GuitarHands]

Tired of KZbinrs praising FF14’s “story”. Yeah, *IF* you manage to survive 1,000+ brain melting, IQ devouring “quests” that are notorious for tossing you back and forth between TWO of the same NPC’s that are 5 continents apart. No voice acting, shit ton of reading. And it’s not even GOOD reading. It’s “I had pizza last night great Hero, don’t you care?” “By the way, do my laundry.” “When you’re done, go back across the continent and re-talk to your initial quest giver to tell him you did my laundry” 1 down, 999 more of the SAME quests with ZERO urgency left to go before “IT GETS GOOD!” Yeah, okay.

[@MeMelster]

I don't understand where this final fantasy free trial with no restriction thing comes from. It's not even true. There is a bunch of restrictions until you upgrade your account to the payed version.

[@shesh2265]

as someone who joined shadowlands a couple months before zereth mortis, i really enjoyed torghast. maybe not the runecrafting but thorgast itself was fun. i enjoyed the absurd over powering of my class and its abilites

[@princecuddle]

you forgot to talk about the other name gw2 has which is fashion wars. it has an amazing system in place for personalizing your wardrobe with different transmogs, dyes, and so on. definitely something gw2 has over wow.

[@lillithsummers8817]

I am a little surprised you missed some things about both leveling and PVE content for GW2. IMO, the personal story system tied in with all the living seasons episodes is a far superior leveling system then WoW’s . You can have a different experience for each race and class based on choices you make in the storyline. The living season system seemed to be left out of your analysis too? The ability to stop, start or replay and move between any episode is a cool feature unique to GW2 and imo far more interesting then Wow’s linear (yet fragmented) content. Open world PVE content solidly goes to GW2 , there is always some event to hop into if you want. Weather it’s a huge world boss fight, a zone meta or a small escort quest, there is almost always something to do that chances are you haven’t done before. Where GW2 struggles imo is explaining their systems and incomplete information during quest lines that aren’t answerable in the content itself.

[@WoodWizard13]

I feel like more information could have been included with GW2s achievement system. I also feel like more imformation could have been included on the vast complexity of character customization with runes/sigils and stat types

[@wishwisky8319]

the worst part about gw2 is the community, you are only allowed to love the game but not to the point that wants it to be better, anything toward gw2 except praise will consider toxic. if you're a rational person.. oh boy, thinking about it makes me sweat.

[@NFradamantyz]

On the other hand, I think it's the best, I could get tired of telling you about the good times when strangers have helped me or I have helped them, it feels very good that strangers without expecting anything in return organize themselves to help you and not just ignore you when you talk to them

[@akhsdenlew1861]

pretty sure that's FFXIV community.. not so much GW2.

[@MrStubbs8157]

For me the bigest thing is combat and synergies between classes for raids or even other group contents with world vs world on top, because its pvp on a whole slew of different scales...1 man roaming, small group roaming up to guild vs guild (usually 15 vs 15) or all the way up in all imagaginable setups to blob vs blob or zerging. The last one shows really, why the skillsets of classes, the sizes of aoe fields or shouts are layed out as they are. It is catering this group fighting bezter than any other game, as the spells and weaponskills arent to big. Take a healing guard in wvw. It all revooves more or less on his movent, staying pretty close, avoiding traps from the enemy team and working together to inflict damage, bait them, trap them, trying to mitigate damage, apply the right boons, take away boons from the enemy through corrupting them and coordinated strike right after those cprruptions with crowd control + damage....and this all is so rapidly and fluently to be played, that this for me since years is the ultimate explanation on why the combat system is so good in gw2. I also like more flashy ones like BDO or Lost ark combat, but all the skills and the way they are set up ultimately fail in a real longlasting pvp or at least pvp group content. It doesnt feel you do stuff alone losely, but in really intricate setups and coordination. The whole fact that it is cool to play along a commander and his movement and or ability to follow and play your class to a good level decides who wins or not...is simply great fun. Sadly this very competitive mindset isnt for many gw2 players it seem. The gamemode survives still after years, but it is a constant new people vs people that were extremely good leaving as the content gets too old for them. It also has to do with the way people gather. They gather in winning teams/servers and soon have no strong enemies left...so one skilled guild has fun, slaughter, fun dies out for them, an enemy is not good enough so they leave when new guilds come up in skill. Its a huge time investment of hundreds and thousands of hours sometimes to be good in it. For me it is worth playing it for years (drought sadly is currently a huge problem in wvw).

[@Cold-Blooded-Jay]

Don't forget to mention how, in WoW, you can go back to older dungeons and raids way over-leveled and just rampage through them like a god of death to get mounts, pets, transmogs, and currencies. Even though it's old content, you can still do it and have some fun collecting.

[@sdb7092]

I prefer tab target MMOs. GW2, ESO and D&D Neverwinter hybrid styles of combat are just too busy for my taste.

[@dradamov]

When I started WoW (well I played vanilla a bit before) I started leveling in Legion storyline. The moment I hit the level requirement for current expac (BFA at that time) I felt "wait, I wanna go back to Legion, I wanna play there, the story, characters, maps, everything was so cool" and then the big yawn of BFA and Shadowlands after was so lackluster I just quit. GW2 is the best overall MMO right now on the market. FFXIV has shit pvp, BDO has shit progression, WoW has shit...well, a lot, ESO has mediocre class fantasy. Only GW2 is good across the board, never excels in anything, but is solid on every front, pve player, pvp player, casual and hardcore alike. But if I had to say where GW2 is absolute best is the mount system 100%. Nothing comes close.

[@wildlyAJ]

yeah yeah the mounts are absolutely so satisfying to use with their realistic physics! I havent unlocked the skyscale yet but the griffin's turns and tricks midair is real immersive

[@_Travey]

WoW is just such a special game, unlike all other MMOs, there is something about it and the story/ lore that always keep me coming back for more.

[@tigeryumyums9407]

Yet the company continues to abuse both their employees and the player base. I am trying to break free myself

[@sanji572]

I've played 1-40 on GW2 as a WoW player. For me, the combat system took me a while to get used to and even has me thinking it's lacking in some areas. The 1-5 Weapon Swap system leaves more to be desired as there's simply less abilities to mess with. Compared to WoW where you can sometimes have numerous buttons in a rotation in addition to utility or conditional spells. For GW2 because of the smaller spell pool, it's more necessary for those spells to be engaging. So when I like 3/5 spells, it's a shame I can't just eliminate those remaining 2 from my rotation in favor of other spells. In a way I guess this can be circumvented with Off-Hand weapons or class Elite Specializations, but you're not guaranteed to like all off-hand weapons and Elite Specializations don't come until much later on in leveling, meaning you have to commit to a class anyway. I've also noticed larger cooldowns on your higher damage or utility spells. Leaving you with 1-3 actual spells to work with while the remainder are on cooldown. Maybe it's just my Rogue brain of needing to have complex rotations and full control of every single encounter in PVP and PVE, I just don't really feel like I get the same thing out of GW2. It's a fun game, but it is different in the combat sector.

[@DizzyFoxHD]

Nah youre 100% right. GW2 its full of normies who cant press more than 2 buttons in one rotation and are ok with having only 4 keys.. Hybrid combat is really really bad imo cause it doesnt really have the best aspects of tab targeting OR action combat, its just in the middle.. If you want to experience good action combat try RaiderZ or Continent of the 9th Seal (former Black Desert). GW2 is really, just a bad, fashion show with no end game content or things to strive for unless you only care about transmogs and want to play sims..

[@sanji572]

@@DizzyFoxHD I don't think that's the case. Guild Wars 2, while having less spells overall, is plenty complex. I'd even say probably more-so than WoW. The action combat forces you to evade and abuse your utility when you have it, if you don't enemies will almost certainly knock you down and potentially kill you. Even within the early levels, it can be somewhat of a challenge. You can't just mow down 20 enemies or kite Elite mobs like in WoW. Both games excel in different areas. In GW2's case it just seems to be everywhere but overly complex spell systems like in WoW.

[@ROCKNROLL947]

I never liked WoW and I love so much GW2, however, both games labeled two very different MMO styles. Sadly, overrated games like FF14 are the most played at the moment, despite of being just a mediocre clone of WoW that also steals ideas from other MMOs, but poorly executed. But players prefer girls with bunny tails and furries than a good game overall.

[@mattheusw]

really?raid in GW2 is a joke,PF AND DF is full of bullshit the social aspect in the game is poorly done,the only thing that GW2 does better than wow and FF14 is mount and exploration world content,that it.dont try this bait saying FF14 overrated,is a bit of odd,there is a reason why FF14 is the most played subscripiton mmo today and the big win for me is the social aspect in the game that feels like no other mmo fullfill this,but the most played is LA for now.ther is a lot of problems in GW2 and one ove then is the social aspect of the game that is kinda dead besides the gathering to world content.

[@censoredcourgette9153]

@@mattheusw i dont get the social aspect tho. I think most mmo now you can just play without any social aspect, i tried ff14 and reach i think lvl 45, havent talk to anyone it has been a solo adventure. I quit cuz it was too boring but thats just my opinion

[@kainesalvation4426]

@@censoredcourgette9153 I don't know much about other people social aspect but to me, at least the world seems easy for me to interact with other people while I am just chilling around. As for you finding ARR's contents boring, I feel you. I don't know how dev will be able to improve the experience because it is truly something that new players are struggling with, especially those that isn't in for the story, things are be super boring for them for sure. Combats also only pick up at level 70 since dev made thing super simplify at anything lower than 70. In any case, thanks for trying out the game that I love, best of luck to you!

[@ROCKNROLL947]

@@mattheusw FF14 is the definition of mediocrity in the MMO genre. I've played a lot of MMOs, and 14 has the worse combat system by far, besides, boring af quests, mediocre and inconsistent voice acting, extremely boring exploration and obviously, the worst PvP ever. Maybe has good social interactions and good graphics, but the game is insanely overrated. And well, remember that being the most played doesn't means that is the best one. WoW some years ago, Gw2 and ESO are the only MMOs atm that are worth to play.

[@mattheusw]

@@ROCKNROLL947 GW2 AND ESO worth to play really?tell me something about GW2 besides mount and exploration?raid is a joke,instanced content is a joke,a messy combat system is what GW2 is,besides the story until a certain degree was good and then became a joke,no social interaction,Duty and raid finder is toxic as fuck idk if is worht playing that game.sure if you wanna play something mediocre then GW2 is the game.yeah man GW2 is not great for a reason they cant be good.the fact that u pull out this fact about ff14 seems like a copypasta dude,idk no anyone that play FF14 go to GW2 for indeterminated time.and Social interations is the core of MMO and in this regard no MMO comes even close to FF14 that why GW2 will be forever a nich mmo game and you are a PVP player KEWK man u dont help anyone doing this that why u play SWOTR ok i buy it GW2 is the best along with swotr.good gods explain a MMO to pvp player seem a joke.have a good game.

[@SilverClouded]

just one point: mega dungeons have been in wow since classic. maraudan, blackrock, temple, .... there are plenty but were considered to time-consuming so were scrapped for a few expansions and later reintroduced

[@AlastorNightheart]

WoW in 2022 is doggy poopoo. been playing it since Vanilla, freaking game is so dumb and less epic every expansion, FFXIV on the other hand replaced WoW for me, Guild Wars 2 is amazing, truly a masterpiece.

[@itrow9526]

Summary of wall of text below: combat is gw2's greatest strength and weakness. If you are interested in Gw2 and coming from wow you should know .... Ranged combat basically doesn't exist, Gw2 is kinda a melee only game. If you pick a ranged profession you are forced to play in melee range due to how the buff system works. If you like playing a healer, look elsewhere GW2 doesn't really have that. Gw2 has supports, they heal, shield and buff generally through a dps rotation (you never feel the difference you make). The buff system really limits and ruins gw2 combat, buffs are far to powerful and essential to ignore and they force you to play a certain way. If you can play those roles differently then you may enjoy Gw2. The game is fun, much more so if you enjoy melee combat.

[@stevnated]

But GW2 has tab-targetting too, right? I don't understand how the ability to dodge and the other differences listed suddenly make it non-tab-targetting.

[@keinlanz]

I do think Anet consistently fails to recognize the importance of small-team instanced PVE content, and we arguably have too much open world content at this point. I think they should take a breather with the latter and put some elbow grease into unifying their different instanced "modes" and expanding on the concept as a whole with new fractals, new regular dungeons, and some cool systems surrounding strike missions.

[@Olvrin]

tbf ANet consistently fails to recognize 90% of the game. Unless you are just a casual player so that you dont need to care about such things, but the moment you try to progress further on any more competitive level (all pvp, pve, wvw), you gonna suffer by very poorly made content, cheap dev decisions, big lack of any time ivestment by devs for such contents and large part of playerbase with IQ of a peeled potato, not even talking about some of the many toxic parts of gw2 discord communites.

[@nielsjensen4185]

The reason Fractals and M+ are compåareable is due to the Affix system being directly inspired by the Mistlock Instabilities. And that's inspired instead of "inspired." As opposed to the SkyGriffon Riding of Dragonflight.

[@jumpinjapak]

The reason wow and gw2 are comparable is because 90% of gw2 systems are inspired by wow

[@nielsjensen4185]

@@jumpinjapak That makes no sense in this context though since the Affix system was changed greatly from instabilities in order to fit into WoW, as opposed to the SkyGriffon that's just lifted wholesale and gives some compensational abilities since the visual design architecture of WoW would be unable to give e it accurate representation if it was presented 1:1.

[@jumpinjapak]

Just saying that the author only pointing one half of story and neglecting all the things that gw2 ""inspired"" from wow, making a context like wow are the only ppl who got inspired is what I am trying to say, nothig against your views.

[@nielsjensen4185]

@@jumpinjapak There's a vast difference between being inspired by and copying. Also, while GW2 has many mechanics that seem similar to WoW it's a vastly different game, that's the main reason that people migrate from WoW to FF14. FF14 is more similar to WoW mechanically despite using different names and GW2 is mechanically highly different from WoW despite using similar names.

[@MithranArkanere]

@@jumpinjapak It's the cycle of life. Blizzard turns stupid and creates an environment that doesn't help innovate. Employees get fed up and leave, and found ArenaNet. ArenaNet creates an environment that promotes innovation in their games. Blizzard copies some of these new ideas.

[@briandfox16]

I really like the video and look forward to you're review of the next xpac of gw2. Do you have a stand alone video of gw2 world v world pvp? I got lost in both the end game open world pve and pvp because I don't know what I should be doing or where I should go.

[@iryoku2]

This is one aspect of GW2 that can be really hit or miss. Once you get to level 80 and finish the personal story, the game basically says "Cool, you know how to play now, have fun!" and stops telling you what to do. For a lot of players that's kind of a scary thing, because they're so used to games taking them by the hand and telling them what they should do next at every step. Other players love the sense of freedom that brings. GW2 is very much about setting your own goals, and doing what *you* want to do, because you want to do it, not because the game is telling you that you need to. If you're feeling like you don't know what to do, I would suggest checking the wiki, or looking through your masteries or achievements, then just picking anything that sounds vaguely interesting, and setting a personal goal for yourself to finish that one thing. Maybe you decide you want to unlock all of the basic mounts. Or maybe you'll decide you want to craft a full set of Ascended gear for yourself. Or, maybe if you like story, you might set a goal that you want to play through all of the Living World seasons in order. Whatever you decide to do, along the way you'll probably discover other things you want to try.

[@briandfox16]

@@iryoku2 So, I want to finish my personal story and then play through the other stories and expansions so that I understand what the world is about, who are the characters, and what the global threat is...if any. I missed all of that because I detoured into casual pvp, loved it, hit level 80...then everyone was like hey join my group for fractals. I want to play through all the story content as one normally would, but I don't know how to do it now. I want to do it with my main character because I missed hero points or mastery points and don't have access to all my abilities outside PvP.

[@Arrow333]

@@briandfox16 You can play through the base game story just normaly and explore some of the open world. You will get scaled down accordingly. You may want to unlock gliding and your raptor for ease of traversing (do first missions of HoT and PoF each). But keep in mind that this also means that you are not experiencing the open world like other new players as you have more options available. The base game was designed without these features, so you don't need them to complete this stuff. The story of the base game is okay with some lows, but it still provides some basic understanding of the lore of the world you are playing in. From season 2 onwards the story becomes much more interesting, with season 4 basically being the peak. To get your elite specs you will need hero points, which you get from hero challenges while doing world exploration. Each elite spec requires 250 hero points. The hero challanges in the base game provide 1 hero point each, while the hero challenges in Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire are worth 10 hero points each. Additionally there is an option to unlock the hero points by doing world vs world. So if you are enjoying PvP, this might be a perfect option to get all the skills you are used to from your structures PvP sessions.

[@cameronjones7456]

@@Arrow333 do note that PVP only give heroics from Reward tracks only. So you really have to play and win enough to complete multiple tracks and even then it will take at least 2 seasons. I’m a seasoned plat 3 and it always take me 2.5 seasons to even get enough. Meanwhile WvW will give enough in just 4-5 hours

[@uniad5868]

I have 13 characters in gw2 and 24 in WoW. Imo, WoW is definitely better than gw2 but if you want to play casually without worrying about paying monthly subs all the time, play gw2. Totally f2p but you really need to buy expansions and buy some in-game contents for better experience. While WoW has more contents, mechanic, better story and a big player base it's definitely more fun to play the game. There's a reason why WoW is more popular than any other MMOs. Gw2 is really fun to play too so try both games and have fun.

[@Krahamus]

I played wow from release till legion, than quit because didn't had anymore more time, tried to get back recently but could not because its to much time sink, so i tried gw2 and in my personal opinion is much better than wow, game doesn't resolve about raiding and gears only, so you could kill lower ilvl people, flex your gear in front of everyone, in terms of content wow definitely dont have more, its recycled content after each new expansion, there is no jumping puzzles, no vista finds, no random events, mounts are far better and have actual purpose, your endgame can be what you want l, raiding, complete 100% world, crafting, pvp etc..after returning to game you will not feel left behind far, i hear lots of people saying that in gw2 equipment doesn't make you stronger, well its not true in pve, but in pvp its true, since you cant just be the one with best equipment and kill other lower ilvl people with couple shots, so everyone is equalized in terns of stats, its more about skill, if you go to wow and fight in pvp people with similar stat gears bis, but different classes the matter who will win and loose will be based on skill not stats anymore, and if your skill in pvp is bad but you have best equipment you will start saying same oh equipment doesn't feel powerful, yah because in wow equipment feels powerfully only when you kill other lower level, lower ilvl players, but in the end everyone have personal opinion of what they like and don't, if people prefer wow over gw2 its perfectly fine, each of us have different likings to things, no need to fight who is better, this or that, play both or only one you enjoy.

[@matenagy9244]

GW2 just announced their new expac and a lot of other things. It will be more lively than ever.

[@markup6394]

Yes, yes, this video is out for a while already, still, I want to point out that when it comes to story, GW2 is miles and miles ahead of WoW. Simply because their story is in the game. Yes, they too have published books, three if I'm not mistaken, but those are (as was the case at the start of WoW) to flesh out the world for those interested - but events, people and places were perfectly explained ingame. In WoW, if you have never touched the books, nothing makes sense. And if you have the lore background, its still bad. So, yeah, points for GW2 here (even if it falls short compared to FF14, but that shouldnt surprise anyone ^^°). "Chromie is a magic gnome" ... ... moooooving on... o.O I suppose I'm biased: though I get burned out by GW2 and though I played WoW almost uninterruped for thirteen years or more... imo GW2 wins in all points. Even with the droughts and all, GW2 has way more diverse content to keep you busy. When it comes down to colletibles, GW2 has much more to offer, and even low level maps of the base game are always full with players. Dont espect a single soul to be out in the Barrens... north or south.

[@rotgarg5308]

GW2 is fun and all, but I just cannot get into it because of the camera system. I tried action camera and normal and it just feels bad. If I could make the camera exactly like WOW or FFXIV I would be hooked for sure.

[@bilibistrox]

After so many years I think wow is complex just for the sake of being complex. There is such a large gap between achievements, and I get burned out quickly only leveling, not to mention the actual endgame. In GW 2 I feel everything I do matters. And that brings joy. This is why we began playing games as kids. For the joy, for the imagination, immersion. When a game becomes your daily work, is not a game for you anymore. Don't want to say wow is bad. It was such a good game for me. But I got old. Can't stay 24/7 in a game and farm. GW 2 replaced wow perfectly, is the best place for wowcolholics. Eventually every burned player from any mmo will come to GW 2. Is just so much joy ❤

[@denslicer6993]

Turn action camera on in GW2 and you will play a totally new game. I can't imagine going back to wow without this feature

[@AgeCobra]

Guild Wars 2 is easy and provides you with armor and weapons .WoW is more the traditional RPG more like Guild Wars and both have a better stoyline .I will say this Guild Wars the original is the real winner .

[@mrThorleifsen]

GW2 is superior in a lot of ways

[@dgsunny23]

The best thing about GW2 over WoW is that PvP in GW2 is gear independent and anyone from the lowest level can start doing it and learn about all elite specializations, whereas WoW PvP is, unfortunately, gear dependent with conquest/honor character bound rather account bound. On the other hand, WoW PvP has premade and rated battlegrounds whereas GW2 is completely in shambles with disbanding premade and later bringing them for tournaments. There are no real rewards and progression systems as such. WoW has excellent dungeons, whereas GW2 dungeons are totally useless, whereas fractals are totally boring and repetitive. Stike missions are great and raids are awesome but not that will keep a player glued to it.

[@Mantorp86]

GW2 feels like a live game. There is always someone who plays alongside. The thing I hate about GW2 is no matter what gear you have or what level you are you feel like a no one. You die in 2 shots. The worst thing about Wow is that there is so much map and story that you will never see and there are almost no one along side you. They are in the end game content. It feels like a dead game.

[@bagles1987]

For me i would say something along the lines of Gw2 > combat, leveling system, Open world repeatable content, character progression, large scale pvp Wow> story, linier progressive content, small scale pvp

[@jogumby]

The biggest reason I prefer GW2 is that no content is ever trivial. You scale down to each zone so even a lvl 80 could have issues in a starter zone. Unless WoW has changed, low level content is not worth doing anymore.

[@AonyjsViolmlar05]

GW2 feels like a hub for people who wants to chill in mmo game you can do whatever you enjoy without the game restricting you to finish some part of the game before doing the other. Want to explore? go ahead you can explore the world and discover stuff. Want to pvp go ahead there are two type of of pvp the WvWvW gear doesn't matter that much unless you enjoy roaming 1v1 play style but if you join the zerg train even level 1 with starting gear can enjoy messing around here. Equalized pvp cool you can enjoy pvp with other players the stats and gear doesn't matter at all just your build and how familiar you are with the class you are playing. World boss , Champ train? awesome you can also find it really chill and fun running around the map hunting those. Completions for achievements? there's plenty with pretty cool rewards too. And there are tons of stuff you can do when you login just its up to you what you enjoy and spend your game time.

[@Daiska_Plays]

All of this really is so subjective. Someone might like Dali more than Picasso, and might prefer pie over cake. Pancakes or waffles? It really does come down to that, making X vs X comparisons interesting, and it's always good to see things from a different perspective, but it doesn't change personal preference. The biggest single reason, if I had to pick just one, for playing GW2, is the progression. Nothing sucks more for me than working my butt off to get everything how I want, then it becoming vendor trash a few months later. Getting where I want, then having a bunch more options to continue building up my character or just enjoying things that aren't the same things I did before with a different wrapper, is my kind of game. It's also more realistic. Less like playing a game, and more like self improvement.

[@brooklyntaylor5935]

In my opinion WOW wins progression. Cause after dealing with it Masteries that lock most core mechanics to enjoy endgame, is far worse then Shadowlands mechanics atm. But this is my opinion. Which has me on fence to not continue, because its a pain to level Masteries as new Level 80.

[@CalliKira]

I never gave wow a try, it had more focus on faction fighting and instances whereas I prefer to explore an open world. Gw2 just has so much more to offer for my preferences. Wildstar was pretty close but didn't keep me with combat and content. And now that I'm spoiled with the gw2 mounts and lively world, I couldn't even get into playing ff14 because it feels like a dead ambiance game. Towns are too silent and npcs don't chatter on their own.

[@user-bp1be1yg2h]

GW2 open world is only good compared to other MMOs. Compared to actual open world games it's awful. Nobody who is trying to play an open world game will pick GW2 over skyrim or BotW or witcher or the myriad of other great games in this oversaturated game style. GW2 open world is exact same content that ubisoft games are always trashed for, checklists and marker chasing with little substance.

[@CalliKira]

@@user-bp1be1yg2h yeah, I'll pay single player games when i wanna be alone and totally immersed

[@clauslarsen8971]

@@user-bp1be1yg2h but we're not comparing it to singleplayer games? We're comparing mmorpgs and in that case, GW2 open world is away ahead of the competition. If you're socially awkward, keep playing alone forever, no one really cares.

[@idk8964]

For gw2, is voice chat mandatory for end game? Or can I get away with avoiding it?

[@enngoogle]

while preferable, in pve you can do pretty much anything without it as long as you know what you're doing up to CM level (higher difficulty). In WvW (big scale 150+ players infinite battlegrounds) most organized groups would want you to join comms, though you can just tag along without even joining their squad (party) and still get all rewards, in any case there's often "non-organized" zergs (groups) running around that won't ask you for it.

[@kristagaro]

As a casual player and having played a lot of mmorpg's, I would say that both games are different and is not to be compared. GW2 is more of a pvp type of game in a pve environment (dodge rolling is a must, especially in expansions or you'll get killed easily even though you are using heavy armor characters) and is more on the achievement side (endgame gears are basically achieved through achievements, even mounts). I am a casual player and not a big fan of constant dodge rolling and as for the achievement side, it forces you to work hard to get those achievements if you want to see any progress for your character (my main character is currently stuck (the reason why I stopped playing) because getting those achievements feels like a job and is no longer enjoyable for me). Not to mention the elite specializations, wherein you need to unlock them first with hero points. I was so excited to play HOT as an elite spec and was frustrated to know that I have to play the HOT maps first to unlock HPs to unlock my elite specs, so by the time I fully unlocked my elite specs, I was already done with the story of HOT and never got to enjoy the elite specs much until POF came. As for WOW, it's more of a questing type of game and dungeons achievement on endgame. It is more casual friendly than GW2 with the questing and battle system but the dungeon achievements are a bit of a grind especially if you're teamed up with crazy players. In the end, as a casual player I will choose either ESO or FF14. Just my opinion. No need for hate comments. Peace. :D

[@TheVeganTravelShow]

I tried wow this week again. The last time i played was 2019 when Classic was re-released & I enjoyed it for the most part. First, it was a tough decision to make to buy the expensive expansion after all the money I'd already spent to play the game in the past. The monthly game time on top of that was a big ask, but i wanted to see if WoW could fill my MMO void. Though having heard about the sexual misconduct, I didn't feel good giving money to Blizzard and I think that set the tone for my re-introduction to the game. I played for 2 days. The first day I tried a brand new character and was bored for 4 hours straight leveling from 1-20. The second day I gave my old main a 50 boost and started playing through the Shadowlands expansion... another 4 hours wasted on bland, mindless boredom. There was nothing fun about it so in the end I submitted a ticket and had my money refunded. In the OG days of wow, TBC was my favourite expansion but I quit playing toward the end of Cataclysm. I do wonder if I should just play TBC Classic instead to see if it tickles my nostalgia, but I do also wonder what else is out there in the world of MMOs. I tried GW2 in the past, but it lacked finesse. I wish there was a WoW 2, similar to Classic wow but with the better user interface, allowing for more thorough questing.... back in the day I had to rely on WoWHead for questing which seems now to have been integrated into the game itself - which is the only positive I found as a returning ex-WoW fan.

[@martirichter5111]

What do you mean when you say that GW2 "lacked finesse"?

[@daniel931016]

As a casual player I think the GW2 progression system stands out more and is much more appealing.

[@grsc9817]

I think it gets boring fast

[@daniel931016]

@@grsc9817 It gets boring occasionally but then I play a new character and class

[@dudeguybro]

In terms of combat, GW2 definitely takes the cake on this one; though, I'd say I loved healing in WoW. Healing in WoW, for me, is up there with GW2 combat - enjoyment factor. Playing a healer in a raid in WoW is something very enjoyable and challenging. DPS always felt mindless and very robotic. I actually enjoy leveling in both games. I would just grind dungeons in WoW from all of the different expansions (though some were scaled REAL bad - coughcataclysmcough). Exploring in GW2 feels great and almost feels like Classic WoW - you actually get to explore the world the developers took so much time to make. WoW's story, currently, is a dumpster fire and makes no sense. GW2 story is fine, honestly. I just like the good voice acting and artwork that comes along with some of the cutscenes. FFXIV takes it a little too far sometimes, IMO, with the story. If the story doesn't click with you in FFXIV (especially ARR and Stormblood, for me), the mandatory story elements will become a huge annoyance and drag. Every player in FFXIV openly admits those two games just suck.

[@vukkulvar9769]

True, healing is really bad in GW2.

[@karnige5804]

bene playing wow off and on for 17 years. quit wow till the next explansion. (dragons) GW2 is similar. I can keybind exactly like wow. I have a weird style and a lot of other MMOs dont let me keybind how I want. its a fun game. its nice to explore and have wonder again. plus its free.

[@Alien--eh2yh]

Gw2 is 1000x more fun and better to me

[@traviso9661]

Guild Wars 2 should be the game all new MMOs take notes from. Arena Net may not have hit the mark on everything they tried to do, but everything they tried to do was the general right step forward for the MMO genre from a design perspective. Out of all of the “next generation” MMOs it’s the only one that actually evolved the genre. ESO and SWTOR did nothing as ambitious as most of what Guild Wars 2 delivered at launch. Let’s also not forget Guild Wars 2 had mythic plus 5 years before WoW.

[@cameronjones7456]

Fractals today is not the same fractals as back then. During the first 3 years Dungeons were much better than Fractals before they completely revamped the system.

[@Matt-sk6hi]

Random KZbinr - "Things can't get any worse" Blizzard - "Hold my beer"

[@millirabbit4331]

Final Fantasy's story is not that good compared to other games I have played. I enjoyed GW2 more as a new player to both games. I also enjoyed ESO's stories more. Haven't played WoW, though.

[@N0moreBrandy]

The GW2 Story Content I personally loveeeeee.. Dragons is one of my favorite things and the way they are depicted on GW2 is amazing and just awesome, My favorite dragon is Zhaitan the Undying, I honestly think they did him dirty but the Hero has to win in that situation tho.

[@LegeFles]

The undying?

[@N0moreBrandy]

@@LegeFles Well he is Dead now for sure so I supose it would be more like Zhaitan the Dead, I was just using what they say in game. =P

[@LegeFles]

@@N0moreBrandy Joko was the undying.

[@N0moreBrandy]

@@LegeFles Been a long while my mistake, Zhaitan is still my favorite tho the risen zombies attacking the world it was a pretty epic way for a zombie apocalypse, I liked him best because it was darker/scarier looking minions compared to the shattered and stuff, would make for a cool movie.

[@LegeFles]

@@N0moreBrandy yeah zhaitan is my favorite as well. Magic undead are so much more interesting than virus zombies.

[@christopherbonneville3892]

Probably should add that gw2 devs aren't sex offenders and don't talk shit about there player base

[@ExPr3S1vE]

do you need to buy all expansion to play for example you got the guild wars 2 game for free and you want the last expansion to buy you would play that expansion ? need an awnser thanks

[@auesip]

Gw2 has become my new love for videogames! Its just that good!

[@fern]

Been playing GW2 for a few weeks and I just can't get into it. There's just so much to learn, things to do and try to figure out, it's overwhelming. I prefer WoW, the graphics look much better, the fight mechanics easier to look at and you're not overwhelmed with a billion things to do/learn/go to/etc.. I'm sure alot of people love that about GW2 and thought it's not for me, I hope GW2 a long existence because alot of people complain in WoW there's not much to do, lol, well, in that case there's GW2 and I hope these games co-exist for everyone.

[@nicky4963]

The reason why wow is boring to me is because it gets too easy and nothing new. Just started playing GW2 and it's one of the best games I've touched

[@kianachan7119]

New join gw2 too . Still learning but it’s alright. Which is no time-limit (no monthly fee), don’t need to learn everything in short time. Enjoy the game

[@JauntyCreates]

Am I right in saying gw2 and WoW in 2022 have the same amount of devs working on each game? 300 or so? I still think this maybe should have been prefaced with WoW being a subscription mmo where as gw2 much fairer business model? i.e not quite a fair comparison.

[@kyleblaneplays]

I think it’s fine to not include that in the discussion seeing as that’s always been the case and hasn’t changed, and this video is specifically discussing the games in their current state. Also, if cost is important enough to a person then they don’t need videos like this. The decision is made for them.

[@Caramelo25]

6:40 - How many green? - Yes

[@Iv_john_vI]

I never played WoW but the more I look into opinions, it feel that if I invested into GW2 is not worth moving to the other. I want certain things from WoW without loosing some features from GW2. If they would make portals from a game to the other...

[@enngoogle]

I feel that this video fails to empathize how different gw2 open world is to wow (or any other mmorpg) without a proper showcase of it's mounts

[@ghostmourn]

Oh wow I didn't realize MS now owns WOW and TESO. Frankly they seem to do a great job afaict

[@maxzett]

IMO that's the best review of Gw2. A lot of people praise Gw2 as a perfect game (which it isn't IMO), but it certainly is really good, and the MMO I stocked to the most so far

[@elvanafanen2003]

I only going to miss my vulpera character. I'll simply had so much fun that three WoW expansions couldn't.

[@siri9475]

I had chance to play both games, both are good in their own ways, I just prefere But2Play over Sub2Play. Yes GW2 without DLCs is basically exploration simulator cause you don't get any story above lvl 80 but it's still fun to run around with your friends exploring, running dungeons, doing events etc...

[@kordaling]

Can a GW2 veteran enlighten me? I've played WoW for 5 years, i'v been trying GW2 for 2 weeks with the lvl80 boost. Open world story exploration and parkour stuff is awesome, dodging around if fun for 2 minutes, but my real issue is that it seems like my classes is kind of ... unassumed/boring? I'm playing dragonhunter:guardian with berserker gear using ''optimised rotation'' but i don't feel like i'm good at anything. Pretty sure there is something i don't understand but i feel like, i can't dps as much as i think i should to make my class fun, i definitely can't tank, i'm squishy as a twig. I'm kind of supporting...? Appart from Aegis, i have a bunch of buff spells that don't seems to do much. I wanna feel like i own my character, like i'm good and specialised at something. Applying buffs/debuff is not fun to me so far, if that's the core gameplay of that class. My friend told me that it depends of my build, that i can do 'everything', and in raids everyone will love you! But truth is, i don't wanna do everything, i want to be good at something and have fun while doing it. What's the point of having 50 different type of spells per class and multiple weapon possibilities if none of them are fun to synergize with? Therefore, the game overall is good don't get me wrong, but i'm not feeling good at anything and having as much fun playing my class as WoW so far.

[@CrOw0019]

bruh if your new to gw2 you will have a better experience not using the lvl. 80 boost cause you will not understand and appreciate the profession you are playing. as someone who rushed lvl. 80 when I first started gw2 its not fun even when you know the rotation of your character but when I slowed down and started leveling a character on my own instead of rushing to the end game, I appreciated and understand my character more and had more fun doing endgame like fractals and raids.

[@kordaling]

@@CrOw0019 Thanks a lot, i will do that!

[@gahndilr]

Yeah I would play a couple toons a little first before using boost to see what you like. Hes right..leveling a character is a lot more fun as you get to know gear and weapon rotations better, making your overall experience and knowledge of how everything works more valuable in the endgame

[@LegeFles]

I'm a dragonhunter main and I burst things down fast AF. Using Longbow and Greatsword.

[@LegeFles]

Applying buffs is not at all the gameplay for dragonhunter. It's a high burst direct damage spec.

[@khiraas5656]

What i like about gw2 the most is pvp.If you get owned you can ve sure its b8ecause of skill, not cheating,exploiting or some cheesy armor/ weapon/ trinket set you must grind like in wow or eso

[@RealJRMOfficial]

GW2 Needs to have more addon's than 3-4 they have now

[@madmagus7693]

One thing you didn't mention is crafting. In WOW, crafting is shit. When you craft clothing/armor, for instance, you can only use it while you level, and then it's crap. In GW2, it's the best you can get and very worth while to level.

[@HeraldToDivine]

the feeling is like for me..ohh there's nothing to do for me..ahh wait there are a lot of things to do

[@Aizenization]

Gw2 is the only story where you character has a character.

[@MithranArkanere]

The Commander of GW2 is quite similar to Commander Shepard. He ends up having to do all the stuff that matters to save the world because everyone else is either incompetent or wasting time bickering, so he often ends up exasperated, but he still keeps going no matter what.

[@michaels2077]

you mean in comparison to wow, right? cuz if you're generalizing.. *swtor has entered the chat*

[@Emidretrauqe]

The reason why they make new systems like Torghast is because it's a lot easier to rip someone off if they have no frame of reference for what you're selling. Also, the game has been relying too hard on Raiding, Dungeons, and Rated PvP. It's needed a new regular pillar of endgame content for a decade now, and to be perfectly honest _any_ of the systems they came out with could do that... If they were willing to listen to play feedback instead of abandoning it.

[@pokeylope6108]

Honestly the physics snd dodge rolling of GW2 is amazing, coming from WOW I cannot go back it feels too boring and stagnate. Kinda like making a DH for the first time and getting all the speed of a feral druid, with double jump, going back to other classes feels slow.

[@suruthebeast4065]

Frankly I don't think these MMOs (or any) can be compared to see which is better... which does kind of feel like what you're doing even if that wasn't the intent.... Mainly because many of your points are insanely subjective. The lack of high level dungeons because of a lack of holy trinity: Not every game needs the holy trinity the trick is balancing a game AROUND not having one vs acting like everyone wants to be stuck as a healer. Now even in gw2 I like my healer class. I play the Herald Rev spec with as much healing as I can possibly muster and my playstyle varies. I play midline in WvW protecting the thieves/ranger, I bash the skulls of foes in PVP while dealing AOE to nearby allies, I pulse out healing and revive downed allies in World Bosses, I take up a mixture of frontline tank, healer, and reviver in dungeons and in fractals. But the thing is you don't NEED this in gw2. The existing dungeons and bosses have proved it. They just need to figure out how to balance new dungeons like some of the older ones... and up the difficulty if they want extreme dungeons.

[@serpisorveninos]

Gw2 actually was never doing BAD... most maps have players and the PVP maps also have players, for an mmorpg... that is this old, that is far from bad. It's the only mmorpg that actually made me buy all expansions

[@Xariann]

I find combat in GW 2 a bit floaty. Wildstar could do action combat with the Trinity and still work well. I think the story telling in GW2 is better though, between the two.

[@drayosstormrage5885]

I think the 2 extra you could have done, is Pay models Pros v Cons, and Tradeskills and Impact / Worth. Very good video tho and a pretty neutral Point of view for both overall which is good :)

[@solotaco6792]

What was the name of the rpgs at the beginning

[@okgut2033]

Imo gw2 has the bigger Potential but both throw them to a huge part. I mean if the time distriction would not exist i bet there would be players that solo every end content but also a far bigger majority would just cry if something would do a little more damage instead of having a bigger healthbar. We saw those thinks on both games: in hot the Community cryed cause the monsters dare to attack a half second faster and on wow you have a ton of things that made players cry. And cause crying helps to lower the difficulty the players actively dont learn the new mechanics, builds or ways the developers planed in some cases they dont even learn from the stories the games try to tell. So no personal progression as a player, or at least at a specific point (relative early) it just stops. And gw2 is an absolut failure at helping players to get good/better at understanding the game or mechanics esp on pvp. You have so many tomatoes, that do the same misstakes over 7-8 years, cause how do they supost to learn something was a mistake? Just let me make a checklist: Do you have a place to learn teamplay? No. Can you learn how a map works? Yes, but you have to work it on yourself. Noone is gona tell you eg. where the spots are that you can teleport, noone gona tell at wich point a decap is better then a full cap. Do you have an option to run as a team? Yes, but only at random times. Or if your lucky to have 10 players willing to play at the same time against each other. Do you have a place to learn rotations/basics? Hell no. There are so many guys at the same lobby and you dont know if they will attack the same dummies its just frustrating. Do you have a tutorial? Yes, but its hidden and outdated. Do you have an option to 1v1? If you pay gold, yes. Otherwise noone is willing to 1v1 you without having idiots interrupting you. Do you learn to overcome toxity? They never did something about it, so it reached a point of no turning in that spiral. Is there a beginner friendly place? Nooooooooouuuuu. Do they something about cheaters? Yes, but its too less and too easy to get around. Do they support new maps/gameplay? Yes once every one and a half year in average. Thats in this case something good, even if the lag of content is a big problem. Do you have tournaments? Not anymore and the gamemode Tournament is boring, you see everytime the same faces or the players that pay a team to carry them for the tournaments price. Do you have guys searching for guilds or full groups? You have 2 full teams in usa and 2 in eu. There may be guilds but noone is active searching for members outside of cross guilds that do all other modes too. Is there something else? Yes, you have the special events, that are not official parts of pvp. Like the winter or halloween events, that have also potential to be played compeditively. Second point: new players to pvp will high likely leave pvp thanks to toxity. So how would you learn to be a better player? By active work on yourself, but that also means you have to know how. Or quit and play something else, maybe pve, maybe another game. Im not saying you cant have fun in pvp. Im saying there is a huge way to go and a even bigger problem to solve. Or maybe its me having higher expectations. Im also not sure how the situation in wow is for pvp, but i cant imagine it being worse.

[@KeelanJon]

Guild Wars 2. Best combat. Feels great. Beautiful game. No competition.

[@HardcoreCasualGW2]

They're very different games. I'd say GW2's combat system feels dramatically better than WoW's, but the group play is not as engaging because it lacks the trinity. This has a significant impact on instanced PvE, which I feel WoW not only does a better job of generally, but also has vastly more content on offer. With regard to story, GW2 wins easily. It's not that WoW doesn't have a ton of good lore to draw upon, it's more the delivery feels disconnected from the player. You're a passenger, along for the ride. By comparison, in GW2 the player is at the center of events and the story is the primary driver of content (of which there is quite a lot!). In terms of the leveling process, I give the win to WoW. GW2's core game is, frankly, atrocious. It feels boring and aimless. Even the environments are bland. Of course, that all changes the moment you set foot into the expansion content, where the environments are incredible, the combat is fast-paced, and the rewards, events, and everything else kicks up about 10 notches! So, leveling process itself goes to WoW, but open world in general is an easy win for GW2. Competitive play is similar to my comments on the combat system and instanced PvE. GW2's superior combat system makes PvP a blast, but the lack of game modes is a major flaw. WoW just has a much wider variety of PvP content on offer, even if the combat that forms the foundation is relatively weak. It's also worth noting that GW2 offers a level playing field for PvP. Your character's gear and level don't matter, which is a major draw for truly competitive players. Vertical vs. horizontal progression is a tough call. I think a lot of players just don't know what to do with themselves once they hit the wall. What's the point in playing if your character never gets stronger? I think it's a valid criticism. On the other hand, there is still a ton of content in GW2, enough to keep most players busy for years. But I think for the hardcore players, having systems like M+ and frequent new content catering to the hardcore crowd is going to make WoW the better option. Graphics. What are you nuts? GW2 came out many years later. Art style aside, GW2 obviously looks a lot better than WoW. You'd have to be a serious WoW fanboi to say otherwise! Having said that, they're both old games and won't hold up to the standard of today. GW2 also has a major issue with visual noise in group combat. Particle effects end up completely obliterating the target so you can't even see visual cues you're supposed to react to! It's...embarrassing. UI. WoW wins. Duh? It has vastly more features and is fully customizable. GW2's UI is intentionally basic and it's part of the reason they struggle with group content (e.g. you can't even target allies for healing/support!). I think that about covers it?