Gulikit KK3 Max - A great controller with a big lie!

[@GuliKit]

Sorry,guys, the reason for this is that first batch of KK3 MAX used the same spring mechanical buttons as KingKong 2 PRO,but later changed to use rubber membrane buttons. Its button description was updated accordingly but not that in time,and still caused confusion. Sorry.

[@VKsChannel]

I Pinned your comment on the top so that everyone can see Thanks for being honest Gulikit! 😊

[@aDanishDude]

Any plans on making a controller with the stick placement of a playstation one?

[@GuliKit]

Thanks bro@@VKsChannel

[@sannymark8438]

Fake advertisement ....refund..all first batch...of kk3 max with spring mech buttons...

[@sightfield]

Only 5 days ago... Dayum... So is it already out yet, the better one ? So no 2nd gen mechanical button ?

[@manoftherainshorts9075]

You sir may be the reason they removed "Second generation mechanical buttons" image from their official Aliexpress store. Good job uncovering their lies! Respect.

[@JaGuHKaMPonG]

But the images and descriptions still there on their main page. Lies continues.....

[@GuliKit]

Sorry,guys, the reason for this is that first batch of KK3 MAX used the same spring mechanical buttons as KingKong 2 PRO,but later changed to use rubber membrane buttons.Its button description was updated accordingly but not that in time,and still caused confusion. Sorry.

[@hybridhyg981]

​@@GuliKitThanks for the info. I'll buy it

[@beblessed1030]

@@GuliKit man must give you a thumb up for the reply and clarification though, for switch and pc i am using gulitkit kingkong 2 pro, i like the plastic case, hall effect stick dont have to worry too much about joycon drift, the complains from me is no way to tell the battery life when connecting to pc, and also the A B X Y buttons, if i press it from an angle, sometimes will make squeeky noise, but luckily is still not too distracting for me as it is not too loud (but you can pick it up), and also i used to mechanical keyboard sound when gaming

[@INFIN1TY-]

​@@GuliKitwhat models have the spring still?

[@Larry.Mapaliey]

Using Gulikit Kingkong 2 Pro for a few months and it's been great. So far, it's the best controller, great autopilot & macro. Glad to hear they release a new version but if the selling point for the newest version are the paddles, then I'll have to skip to try it out because I find it uncomfortable using extra buttons below the controller. Just like the Gamesir T4 Pro. And here's the reason why I recommend you guys to use Gulikit: - Hall Effect Analog/Joystick & Triggers button - SPARE PARTS! yes, you don't have to buy a new one if your Gulikit buttons somehow broken, just buy the spares.

[@JohnSmith-XYZ]

KK3 having rubber membrane buttons is a good thing for me. I prefer that. They shouldn't use deceptive advertising however, that part is wrong.

[@maegnificant]

They didn't use rubber membrane, that is what this video is about. They advertised that they do use it.

[@juliox9]

@@maegnificant no they advertise mechanical and used membrane 20:50, for me i detest rubber membrane specially on the d-pad, cant count how many xbox controller i had to pretty much throw because the damn thing breaks, have a series controller right now for a year and the X botton already feels degraded compared to the other 3.

[@rebcommando587]

​@@juliox9invest in anger management if you're throwing controllers out of baby rage

[@juliox9]

@@rebcommando587 pretty much game I play that want you to push it like a maniac like hack and slash tipe

[@patricjohansson1481]

Agreed, hate the clicking sound from mechanicals 😖. If the rubber worn out you can easily replace it

[@mattj7747]

A lot of people are talking about buttons on the old controller. As somebody who has owned 3 KK2 and 1 KK3, let me tell you what happened and why you shouldnt worry on the KK3. In the KK2 controllers, the buttons were made by producing hundreds on a plastic sheet then punching them out of the mould, like a brand new model/toy figure if youve ever played with/built one. The process left jagged edges on some of the buttons and these sometimes stuck. Removing the buttons and picking off the extra plastic would fix this, the controller was fine. Unfortunately th KK2 didnt come with the button removal tool. The KK3 has much better button quality control. It also comes with the button removal tool, and 4 spare buttons. The button assembly underneath is beautiful easy to clean once removed as well if you are a cheesy doritio finger gamer. I have spent hundreds of dollars on microsofts controllers that last half a year. Ive given gulikit 200 dollars on the KK2, and the 1 KK3 I bought was instantly the best controller ive ever had. It is legitimately one of the best pieces of technology ive ever held.

[@richardhunter9779]

Just a slight correction - the trigger button does NOT sound like a microswitch at all. It sounds like a tactile switch. The difference is that tactile switches are much smaller, while microswitches are the kind of switch you would find in a mouse. Real microswitches have significant advantages: 1. Overtravel - the switch can keep travelling after it has been actuated. 2. Lifetime - while tact switches are rated for 10K-50K actuations, microswitches are rated in the millions of clicks. They can be easily told apart without taking the device apart by the sound - tact switches are much quieter and lower pitched. I do not know if Gulikit lead you on or you came up with "microswitch' on your own, but please do not get the two mixed up - this poisons the language and fills the internet with garbage information.

[@redcrimson1028]

Wow! Pat yourself on the back. You are a controller expert beyond that I've ever heard of.

[@SSLowRL]

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

[@GummiSammi]

My gen1 buttons used to do the "sticky button" thing. I took it apart and made sure all the plastic was aligned. also lubed it like I would lube mechanical keyboard switchs and they are the best feeling controller buttons I've ever used. I can see this being a minor improvement. wish they would make the trigger hinges out of metal. I can see that breaking after one bad drop.

[@ZILtoid1991]

Note: The correct term for those kind of buttons are "rubber domes", not "rubber membrane". Rubber domes can be quite cool actually. I got two BTC keyboards, and both are quite old, yet are reliable, or at least after I cleaned the PCBs and the conductive sides of the rubber dome mats. These are also some of the rare examples of rubber dome keyboards that are entirely membrane free, and the switches are quite similar to what controllers have (conductive rubber dome over PCB). The reason why many of them got the "membrane" name is people misapplied the sensing mechanism's name to the actuator one. The membranes themselves are consisting of two conductive pieces with traces and a third one with holes punched on it as a separator. There's also quite a few keyboards that have membranes but not rubber domes, the most famous being the Model M/IBM Buckling Spring, another good one is the Acer switch, certain Mitsumi keyboards used shorting prongs with external rubber bells or springs as a return force (which negated the use of multiple membranes at the cost of having to add jumper wires to the now singular membrane), but spring over membrane switches usually are way worse than your average rubber dome over membrane keyboard.

[@k6l2t]

Honestly, the button membranes are a _huge_ improvement. I tried _three_ different KK2 Pros, and _all_ of them developed "sticky" buttons, which required disassembly and greasing all the switches interiors/springs with lube (I used vaseline); an _extremely_ tedious/annoying process that I don't think anyone who purchased them should ever have to do. I might actually have to pick up the KK3 to see how it performs, because aside from that issue those controllers felt so amazing! Once you go hall-effect, you will never want go back.

[@sovo1212]

Is it possible to replace the buttons from KK2?

[@ramonantoniosagarino392]

​@sovo1212 Yes. Just replaced the switches for my KK2 Pro using these switches with the orange heads and it fits perfectly. I personally like them much more than the stock ones tbh.

[@raul1642]

Lies, Deception 19:50

[@patrickpaulo34]

Dang 20 mins till he tells what it was.

[@rodrovelasquez1634]

does anyone know the song that he uses in this segment?

[@Automobili3XF]

Running Away by John Charles Fiddy, instantly reminded me of Chavo del Ocho lol

[@hammerfall6666]

@@rodrovelasquez1634 Lucio Sergio Catilina - Cannibale

[@modzi9138]

cant thanks enough for this chanel, u helped a lot of people. keep doing ur great work sir!!

[@ruffierniert]

I really hated the face buttons on kk2 pro, ended up selling my controller because of that. but if the new once, even if lying, are better, I might get this, because I'm also not fully satisfied with my 8bitdo ultimate.

[@MandeepSingh-jl3nj]

It's a good controller but the triggers creek sometimes and don't feel as smooth. Also when playing racing games I have to press the throttle half way to get any input.

[@g33k_Tech]

may i know how is the gyro in 8bitdo ultimate..can we use gyro when using adapter 2.4

[@g33k_Tech]

can 8bitdo connect to pc as a switch pro controller using 2.4 adapter

[@ruffierniert]

@@g33k_Tech I don't think we can, unless you pair it as switch pro gamepad via Bluetooth but then there are no analog triggers.

[@FelipeCassiors]

@@g33k_Tech yes you can. Put your controller in switch mode, pair with the adapter v2, then switch the adapter to switch mode as well (I think youn need to hold BACK and left d-pad). Then Windows will recognize your controller as a switch controller, with support for motion in Steam/Yuzu and everything. I actually use 8BitDo v2 adapter for my Gulikit KK2 this way as well and it works like a charm.

[@SinjiKazama]

Goes to show how subjective the paddle experience is, your no paddle recommendation is wild to me haha, I much prefer it with paddles.

[@johnhughes4705]

I thought the same thing, why buy a controller with paddles to not bother with them, just buy a none paddle controller. Weirdo.

[@Panic_Pickle]

@@johnhughes4705because even not putting in the paddles, you still have four extra button locations.

[@fwabble]

@@Panic_Pickle Sorry what?

[@biggusotongus1121]

​@@fwabble even without attaching the paddle, those four back slots are still functional as normal back buttons

[@MadWinter889]

Great review. I was so hyped for this controller. I thought it looked gorgeous and was exited about the rear buttons and trigger stops. I'm kinda disappointed by the way the trigger stops have been implemented, also the buttons are a step down compared to the kk2 pro... Kinda sad.

[@Tommyvang187]

I got my button stuck as well, but I got it out by gripping it with the metal thing included in the box, then slowly tilting/jiggling the button until it became loose enough to lift out the socket. Other than that, my controller is working pretty flawless, but the paddles are kinda bad. They stick out too far, if they both were to sit closer to the controller, it would be perfect.

[@Mxsteryninja]

Bro I need your help its not coming out 😭

[@FantomMisfit]

​@@MxsteryninjaTake the controller apart very carefully and get it out that way that's how you fix stuck buttons on the 1st party controllers

[@JumCuggler]

Dude, you rock! I was about to pull the trigger on one of these and I was watching reviews to make sure it was what I wanted. I think I'm going to wait for the Vader 4 or get the Vader 3 pro on sale. Thank you so much for exposing their false marketing and helping consumers make the best choice.

[@OraOraOra]

Great Review! I also noticed you can press the back buttons without the paddles. And omg ... it happend to you aswell, I also had my button stuck... I scratched to controller and the button while getting it out with tweezers :/ and I got terrible input lag with the dongle . . . I will watch the full video when I'm home. Liked!!

[@windchime9720]

I made the exact same mistake 😩 Did you get it out with the tweezers, or did you disassemble the controller? I tried both, but the tweezers can't get grip on the button, and the screws inside the controller seem too tight for me to get out!

[@OraOraOra]

@@windchime9720 I had really thing tweezers.. I used just 1 side of the tweezers to get in the Side of the button and then I tried to push it up. Like lever it up. sadly I scratches the controller in the process -_- Or try a toothpick, something thin to shove it in the side

[@windchime9720]

@@OraOraOra UPDATE: I got it out by sticking the button with sticky tack and pulling it out!! :D Hope it works for anybody else with the same problem.

[@cybergrassx]

this one looks literally perfect, love the design!

[@kfcdoubledown1690]

A rubber membrane in a replaceable module styled like an MX switch is actually a pretty cool idea.

[@f.f.2260]

How'd you compare this to the Vader 3 Pro?

[@thomasshakelton]

Instant Sub after 20:45

[@XxJGVxX]

Can the kk2 pro mech buttons be used on kk3 max? there may be tolerances in the plastic shells which is why i'm asking you to try it, please and ty

[@subarutendou]

The mechanical maketing is only in english version. Because I look at chinese version there is no mention of mechanical at all. all it said is 2nd gen button and make it feel better.

[@EpsilonRosePersonal]

My biggest question is how well the KK3 plays with Steam's configurator? Can you interdependently map the gyro and paddles, or do you have to use the controller's more limited built in mapping?

[@gridselix]

with your honesty, I'm sure you can go far. You will millions of subscribers!!

[@EnSeaAy]

7:50 How to fix this? Is it safe to open it ourself or we need to claim the warranty?

[@VKsChannel]

You'll have to open it

[@EnSeaAy]

@@VKsChannel sadly yes, but I’m afraid it will void my warranty

[@dewantorofathoni7679]

Thanks for the review mate,it's honest & most detail review for this KK3 i've seen before i (almost) buy this KK3 with fake marketing 😂

[@shijikori]

from my experience, the KK2 buttons issue with getting stuck can be addressed by swapping the components between the switches or turning the stem 180 degrees. one of my buttons stuck, i turned the stem around 180 degrees and it happened to click well. I'm guessing it would be issues with tolerances. a slight overlap.

[@CrashD6]

I always had something bugging me about Gulikit, their innovation was great, but I never thought I needed their controllers, so I bought the Gamesir T4 Kaleid, which has the "same" features, but it's transparent, so you can see all the hardware, they got nothing to hide, meanwhile Gulikit is selling everyone membrane buttons and telling they are mechanical switches. I've never bought a Gulikit controller and I'll never will, great video, you earned my sub!

[@Almightydubzz]

The t4k is better, they just had an firmware update a couple of weeks ago aka the 0.2.3 which improved the joysticks raw mode which helps the non raw mode

[@Vanilla_Jo]

Been using a T4K for almost 9 months now, no complaints outside of some initial issues with the software, has been perfect the entire time.

[@user1412-n8v]

19:54 can we replace membrane in kk3 using kk2 pro mechanical button?

[@VKsChannel]

Probably yes!

[@stnilus3294]

I really like my kk3 so far. I disassembled it to see how it differed internally from an Xbox controller, and I was surprised at how it was so easy to repair compared to first-party controllers. Philips head screws, no easy to break plastic covers, mosfet connectors and ribbon cables instead of soldered wires, an easily replacable battery, etc. I did manage to lose one of the bumper springs, and after consigning it to the void, I realised I liked it more without, so I removed the other one. It's easier to press and makes a nice clicky sound. Time will tell how well it holds up, I suppose. I know I'm never finding that spring again, and I'm not going to just return it, lol.

[@maouvin_]

Interesting to hear about the trigger spring. I didn’t like how much force I need to apply even with the trigger stop enabled, so I guess Ill try without the spring too!

[@stnilus3294]

@maouvin_ Bumper spring, not the trigger spring. If you remove the trigger mainspring, I don't think it will work. It appeared to be molded in and is mechanically necessary for the trigger to return to reset. The bumper springs are tiny and located in the L1-R1 top shoulder buttons. They attach to the outside of the trigger mainspring housing and the inside of the bumper. They resemble the springs you find in a ballpoint pen but smaller, and they aren't molded into the mechanism, which is how I lost one. They appear to serve as sound dampeners since the bumpers function just fine without them (albeit louder).

[@maverichz]

LOL, i considered this controller to replace my Apex 2 which got 1 double click face button after 2 years of usage. Glad i went with Vader 3 pro instead since i extremely love the face buttons on Apex 2. Flydigi mecha buttons are the best rn, no contest.

[@maybebutwhatever]

Yeah Flydigi have those clicky buttons with really nice spring. It's probably something proprietary because mecha buttons on other controllers doesn't have this springiness.

[@danielc5647]

I love your honesty, this is the best channel for controllers, also if you want to see durability of kk2 controller i recommend the channel Kaiser do stuff

[@pbu015]

Great review! Also, I own the KK2 and you're the only one who opened up its problems (sticky buttons and paint stripping off the triggers/bumpers). Most if not all reviewers just commend how "perfect" it is.

[@alexisrivera200xable]

The metallic paint stripping was an obvious design flaw, metallic paint on plastic doesn't ever hold up well on parts seeing constant handling. Mine did that already but so far the buttons are holding up I'm not much for the looks so its a minor issue to me but I can see people getting deeply annoyed by this. That said I can't go back to potentiometer based analog sticks. Having zero deadzone and smooth sensitivity response is the one things that got me hooked on from the moment I got mine.

[@pbu015]

@@alexisrivera200xable you're definitely right! I have no complaints about how the triggers and the analog sticks feel. Functionality wise, the controller is great.

[@HelloHero08]

I am so disappointed in the dishonesty of gulikit. amazing job as always!! You are really the best at what you do!!

[@Gure_Shimo]

I got the original and it didn't last long. Had to modify the button holes and stretched the button springs a little so that they didn't get stuck. Then the magnetic triggers startet to lose calibration frequently. I got an 8Bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth Controller which is been great so far.

[@frankrossi3524]

Should we be concerned about the outlier that happens every time? How is it 1ms response time if every time you go to touch the stick from rest there is 5000ms delay?

[@smartgerman9381]

where did you get the pic at 20:21 from? I went on AliExpress and Amazon and couldn't find it

[@VKsChannel]

Its on their website

[@syn80]

Those vibration motor look like copies of the dualsense motors. They use voice coils for a up, down movement instead of spinning weights like older controllers. Voice coil motors are what speakers use, they just don't have cones because they aren't meant for sound reproduction. Just for more controlled and accurate vibrations.

[@dakzer55]

I just bought the purple color King King 3 Max 😊. Can't really complain too much compared with the high price of the Xbox Elite Controller 2

[@luannx1_]

I believe that the "mechanical button" is just the tactile sensation that can also be felt in addition to springs, switches are different, generally coupled to the board which is not big enough for a control, so the membrane would come in the middle to make the command and the tactile sensation due to some other adjustment. My opinion on how I believe it would work, and it was also a small mistake on Gulikit's part not to have 100% of "dignity" in the word.

[@nouche]

What are the options for using this controller's gyro on PC? (outside their built-in firmware right stick emulation thing) You could obviously use it with Bluetooth in Switch mode, but that's a bit annoying if you want it paired to an actual Switch as well~ Anything else? Wired mode? Dongle? (if any of these can be told NOT to use XInput and instead do Switch mode?) I recall 8bitdo did just that (firmware update to their dongle) to allow using Switch mode on PC. Anything we can do here?

[@exmax555]

I sent mail to the company about their" mechanical buttons," and here is their reply. " Hi friend, It's a machine inside, but the springs are replaced with conductive glue."

[@yeahBradley]

Thank you for this extremely thorough breakdown. I think I'm going to buy one simply because of how novel it's feature set is.

[@gamersview8]

Curious, what game was shown at the end of the video? Feels like castlevania symphony of the night XD so cool

[@Ochtendgloren1]

Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth.

[@gamersview8]

@@Ochtendgloren1Great, thanks for sharing the game name with me.

[@Rrodfer]

is possible to map a keyboard key to a macro on the Gulikit KK3 Max?

[@redlath]

Thanks for the vids. what do you use to test the controllers? I want to see my current drift of the old vs new controller

[@VKsChannel]

Gamepad tester website

[@noisserc]

I have the KK2, and my face buttons have never gotten stuck. The buttons being mechanical is a lie, but I wouldn't say they're like other membrane buttons. They're more like a hybrid design because of the spring. Buttons getting stuck seems like a common occurrence, but that may vary between units.

[@Psychotoxic86]

First of all, thanks for the great review. Secondly, in my opinion this is a strange step to the side, but not to forward. This gamepad has a lot of strange solutions and is not worth his price. I’m waiting for my Apex 4. It will come to me around 10 Feb. Interesting to compare them. After i will sell Gulikit KK3 Max.

[@MadWinter889]

I got the vader 3 pro shortly before the kk3 maxs release, and after seeing reviews it seems like I bought the superior controller.

[@redcrimson1028]

​@MadWinter889 not surprised. Guilkit controllers aren't really great. Well, at least the analog and dpad aren't

[@fr1zon]

21:45 the plastic trigger on my KK2 is already broken 😢, the spring on the trigger was always squeaky . Idk If i'm going to buy another one from their brand.

[@dradvyrk6162]

Nice review. I actually got it just past July 4, looking for a good controller for my switch. It is out of my budget but still bought it. Tested it for a few times but haven't on real gaming yet. Thanks to this video, I finally understand the sensitivity of the right Analog joystick, I thought mine has a problem on MH Rise:Sunbreak. Still, even if it isn't real mechanical, it would take years for me to worn it out. My main worry is thr battery. Thumbs up to you, mate. Subbed.

[@arthurcuesta6041]

Great review. The trigger pivots are the most concerning flaw imo, as I'm not sure how replaceable they are. Everything else is as close to perfect as I could've wanted. Definitely my next controller.

[@Dryden-n]

Can you use 2 King Kong controllers with 1 USB receiver on your PC?

[@Marcheziora]

Why the hell were so many reviewers saying thumbstick weren't removable? You're the only reliable one that proved it still is! Anyways, I'll wait for the cheaper KK3 non-paddle version because I don't want to spend extra for paddles I won't use.

[@hyphen8d725]

same but because paddles arent tournament legal

[@ClareHehe]

i think i'll just get the apex 4

[@BlazeTice-i3e]

I'll get that one too but only if the thumb stick quality is at best of the best.

[@raffyluvmiharu]

Do they plan to release a non-paddle version? I would prefer that honestly

[@VKsChannel]

Vader 3 pro is better I think@@ClareHehe

[@matTmin45fr]

I'll wait for the KK4 Max. Thanks for the review !

[@babyeiden7092]

I'll ask the dumbest question ever, but can I remap de L and R buttos to the back paddles? (I'll say L3 and R3 just to make it easier to understand) it's just something in my head, but I think that if I stop using the joysticks as buttons and remaping those to the back paddles, will make the joysticks last longer xd

[@VKsChannel]

Yes

[@haginarum]

a good review as always

[@constadin86]

Finally a complete review! Kudos! 1 thing left to investigate. Reddit users had the back buttons mechanism snap on them telling its a cheap plastic mechanism. You said it seems ruboost. Can you confirm thia please?

[@VKsChannel]

It seems well constructed, as you can see the metal parts that keep it in place but again some players are too rough... We can only say for sure after a while

[@eusamuel]

I don't think it's the vibration motor that is causing the mic interference but rather the trigger's hall effect magnet

[@littlebigplayer6866]

Hello, can you please do a video for the new jung zeng v5 ps5 and xbox controllers?

[@VKsChannel]

It's the same thing of the previous version, same calibration modes, and it seems even the installation is the same

[@VKsChannel]

the only difference is that the board is thinner

[@littlebigplayer6866]

Thanks bro

[@Blazko381]

Pls check if 1st gen (true)mechanical buttons work with KK3 MAX

[@onassisjavierdiazestrada3767]

How do you save the configurations? I men like the kk2pro the the Pro Mode ( gear and + buttons)

[@budthecyborg4575]

4:50 On my Xbox Elite controller I cut the paddles in half to be able to grip the controller with four paddles.

[@AxfNPn3l]

Nice review. I just cancelled the one I put on backorder b/c I have a few concerns that your video showed. This is for a primary Switch player. 1. The interior trigger stops plastic mechanism looks flimsy and it looks difficult if not impossible to replace if it breaks. I have no problem working on a controller but that doesn't look like it's going to be meant to be replaceable. I'll wait and see. If they offer a replacement part it looks like it would be a breeze to replace. Just depends if they offer a part or not. 2. The trigger stops still have so much travel for what is supposed to be a digital press. I don't get that. They went out of their way to make another mode for the trigger which is welcome, but didn't go all in with it. Then there's the matter of reviewers mentioning that the triggers have two different travel distances between them which I'd like to see worked out too. 3. That button tear-down was alarming. Makes a lot of their other marketing extremely hard to trust. I'm sure there's some way where it can be technically spun as "mechanical", but they should've just leaned into some kind of sugar text for what they actually went with. It looks like the only reason there's an intermediate piece is to facilitate changing of buttons that are different heights for Xbox/Nintendo layout which has nothing to do with the button press action to begin with. I did like a lot of the KK2 despite its issues and I'm not totally out on this controller but I will wait and see since I don't need a controller right now. I'm waiting to see if 8bitdo releases one with trigger stops, or I'll look closer at the Vader pads that get recommended a lot.

[@VKsChannel]

1 the plastic don't bend too much and its pretty thick, I'm more worried about the trigger pivot 2 indeed there's too much travel for a digital button that it almost makes no difference from hall effect as they too activate in the middle of the travel 3 yeah I don't know why they did this

[@don.timeless4993]

im getting one for sure but can i play with it on PC with the cable only?

[@VKsChannel]

Yes

[@OutsideDuhBox]

Blud just doesnt know the back paddle powa! Use the half domes up top. The bottom stock ones but bend them inwards with pliers and bam comfy heaven! Fyi without the paddles those buttons are HARD to push in..i cant hit them comfortably at all

[@MrDLYouTube]

I got mine a few days ago. Disappointed I cannot map/change the button functions. I want to swap the - and + buttons to the 2 buttons bellow so it's more like the xbox layout. Also, it's strange I cannot control my mouse pointer on the PC like I can when my xbox controller is connected. The main thing that annoys me, there is no battery level indicator.

[@jatingupta7439]

Does the triggers also have rumble/vibration? Impulse triggers?

[@vianmaro6732]

Subscribed! Thanks for making an in-depth review of this controller. Even though I'm quite disappointed with the fake advertisement, I think I am still gonna buy this one because I like the upgrade from the KK2. Btw.. may I know the game you are playing at the ending? It looks like a Castlevania game but I cannot find a castlevania game on switch with that UI.

[@paradoxzee6834]

How does the digital triggers feel like? On the Xbox elite controller when you turn the triggers into digital one it does not have a soft feeling but it stop like it hit a brick wall

[@VKsChannel]

They have a big travel But they click in the end, it has a digital switch on the pcb

[@hidekilbing696]

very good review, have you tried swapping the mechanical buttons from KK2 to KK3? Or is compatible?

[@zeke4202]

Can anyone tell me if the Gulikit kk3 Max controller works on PS4 with the Goku adapter with a good polling rate for competitive games?

[@pm1741]

I bought 2 Vader 3 Pro's based on multiple YT reviews. I need 4 controllers total and was waiting for this review. Looks like I'm buying 2 more V3P's.

[@thamburkerkey]

What's the polling rate? I'm looking for at least a 250ms polling rate.

[@subarutendou]

I use this controller everyday, since it arrived. The trigger are too heavy for me, so I shorten the trigger spring. love the controller.

[@XxRaceRCxX]

Great review! What software did you use to test/diagnose the controller? It seems handy for troubleshooting controller issues.

[@VKsChannel]

Gamepad tester Its a website

[@Shpetz]

Are the programed back paddles remembered through power cycles? as to not have to reprogram every time.

[@arlenegando9658]

Mine has deadzones right out of the box, I thought that's normal until I saw this video and other reviews. Thanks Gulikit for making me switch back to 8bitdo 👌

[@peepoSad_]

Do you know if you can replace the entire thumb stick with any Xbox thumb stick? The whole rotator piece and thumb stick is what I want to replace. I don't like the metal around the thumb stick on the Gulikit controller. It makes it feel very rough on the left thumb stick when moving it upwards. I've had it be an issue on two different controllers now.

[@SoundToxin]

The title seemed sorta clickbaity to me at first for some reason but after finishing the video it actually seem quite accurate. This both does seem like a great controller and there was a lie (apparently). I love the amount of detail you went into with this, from the on-screen pros and cons near the end to the recording of the button sounds. I wish you had done a bit more testing of the dpad diagonals. You did mention that it was easy to do diagonals, but sometimes there's an issue of unintended diagonals also. I think some people do a test with Street Fighter or similar to make sure they can do quarter circles precisely, and then they use Contra to make sure the diagonals aren't too sensitive. I have the KK2 and I don't think I have any other controllers with similar macro functionality, so I didn't realize how far ahead they were here. I laughed out loud when you showed that other controller going full tilt on the analog recording playback. A section highlighting just the changes from the KK2 (since I think it was a fairly popular controller being around when the Hall Effect stick craze was really taking off) would've been nice. I can tell some stuff just from watching the review, but it's a lot of info to take in and think about. The lights look new, the paddles are of course new, the buttons are slightly different as you went over. I like the changes they made to the case to let you charge it in there. I don't agree with lack of an app being a con, the last thing I need is another piece of proprietary software just to use* my controller. If there were some sort of open standard I would probably feel differently, though. I like what GP2040-CE gives us for DIY arcade controllers, and what QMK gives us for mechanical keyboards. IIRC you can actually save your macros to a file and share them with people on the KK2, so maybe some sort of retroactive software tweaking would be possible depending on how much of the controller can be exposed when plugged in. * Yes, the controller would probably still work fine without it, but I was annoyed at having to get an app for my 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth controller to map the back buttons, and I'm glad you can do so much on the Gulikit without external software. At a glance the KK3 appears to combine the best parts of the KK2 and 8bitdo's Ultimate Bluetooth controller (I own both). If I had waited a bit longer to get one of these I probably would've gotten just the KK3 and been satisfied. I like what Gulikit is doing and I would like to see them put out a controller in the PlayStation style with symmetrical sticks at some point. I'd also like to see them make more modules you can mod into existing controllers like they did with the Joy-Cons and the Steam Deck.

[@GameKingFaiz]

Your reviews are great--keep it up!

[@Analog.Digital]

Super detailed video, great work! Could you help answer if the back buttons are detected as unique buttons in REWASD? Unfortunately many third party gamepad don't actually show up as buttons. I've searched many review videos, none of them provide this info

[@VKsChannel]

I Don't have rewasd installed but I'll try to check

[@Keiex]

the pivots will absolutely break, my previous Kingkong broke exactly in the triggers, thanks for showing them.

[@antondnice]

Not sure if this has been posted already. But if you get your buttons stuck, you might get them out by using tape or putty. Worked for me at least.

[@Synthwave596]

Have you tested the random super laggy stick polls when its wired? Is it the same? Ot could be a power issue potentially

[@BowsettesFury]

Same terrible Mickey Mouse plastic case. 🤣 go back to the hard shell zipper KKP2 no issues with paint or usability here. (Daily driver also) My A & B buttons get stuck a lot also. Thought it was just me.

[@luannx1_]

to solve this is by lubricating the spring and some corners inside the switch, it occurred to me, but mine made a jarring door noise, something like that, I applied a small amount of mineral oil, even though it wasn't recommended, but it solved the sound problem.

[@sladikk]

great, every time I find a controller I want to buy, something comes along that makes it pointless...

[@D2firetech]

Great video 📸, could you review the flydigi apex 4

[@VKsChannel]

Coming soon 👀

[@leonoliveira8652]

Been looking for a controller like this, but with centered analogs and that suposedly works under linux. I have no need for console compatibility, no matter how cool it would be. I just need a decent linux gamepad that has centered analogs, and maybe macros. Suggestions?

[@a.Trickster]

i was looking at the amazon page for this controller and it doesnt say anything about mechanical switches

[@ArnoldSmithFergusson]

I wonder why the button still stucked both with mechanical & membrane???😅 I got KK2 Pro & the AB button also stuck

[@geepriest]

Thanks for making this video, I had two of these controls in my Amazon cart...Which Switch controllers do you recommend besides the Pro Controller?

[@VKsChannel]

any of the flydigi controllers machenike g5 or mobapad

[@quelldieu7263]

is this the 1st time they did this? does it have any other problems?

[@VKsChannel]

No, besides this and the buttons which can get stuck if you insert it in the wrong place I never had any other problems with gulikit controllers

[@bjcanz]

5:01 thats how flydigi apex 2 controller button too, which is very uncomfortable

[@mwitters1]

I did the SAME thing with my button getting stuck when i put it in the wrong slot! I had to RMA the entire controller because of it!

[@zinjiro2810]

Hey i just wanna ask. What game is that in the last part of your video? TIA

[@GameplayTubeYT]

This guy save a lot of people 👍 New subscriber here

[@AnnaPunch]

The input lag is huge! This is clearly seen in the 10:01 rack test at 0.25

[@imliimits3530]

I Bet the abxy buttons feel amazing tho cant stand mech buttons on them i like rolling my thumb about on them and after ahwhile it hurts with mech buttons

[@reqvhio2]

thank you for the sound test, i care about bumpers being clicky. cant beat the feeling of spamming rb to get the estus heal :D

[@antiv0dka]

So apparently you can interchange the membrane buttons with the spring one from kk2.