Gundam Seed Rau Le Creuset Nihilistic Ideology

[@ResultsHazy]

Love how Mark Oliver perfectly played the subdued, scheming villain for ~45 episodes before absolutely popping off at the end for Rau's descent into madness.

[@PeterRedhill]

"THIS IS OUR DESTINY! PEOPLE KNEW WHERE THEY WERE HEADING WHEN THEY CHOSE TO WALK THIS PATH! JUSTICE AND FAITH! IGNORANCE AND ESCAPISM! THEY NEVER LEARN! THEY NEVER LISTEN! WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF THAT PATH! THERE IS NO WAY TO PREVENT IT NOW! MANKIND VANQUISHED, AT LAST! JUST AS THEY DESERVE!"-Rau Le Cruset

[@FarbachViBrittanniaBuildPeace]

I love this, its hard to fight this part of humanity

[@jamikzvonbalatch9114]

Chills! Literal chills everytime i hear this😆

[@Ally.Cat.252]

“YOURE SOMETHING THAT SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO EXIST BOY!!!” Rau is right I would want to be like Kira.

[@LegendaryOverfiend]

Mark is absolutely going *off* in the booth here like crazy “Ok mark here’s the crazy villain speech you don’t need to go too hard”

[@Vartellas]

Rau's speech is one that really ages well as times goes forward.

[@mathdebaterclub]

To this day I still prefer the dub over the original audio just for Mark Oliver's performance of Le Creuset. "This is a world where people's hearts are full of HATRED. Where fingers have no purpose other than to pull triggers!!" He absolutely captures a madman who nearly lead the world into complete destruction.

[@fuzeminttea9211]

"This is mankind dream, mankind desire, mankind destiny. TO BE THE STRONGEST TO GO THE FARTHEST TO CLIMB THE HIGHEST TO COMPETE TO ENVY TO HATE EACH OTHERS AND DEVOUR ONE ANOTHERS."

[@yeenmachine206]

Mark Oliver is someone who absolutely understood the assignment when he voiced Rau

[@VB-wf3eq]

By watching hitler speeches before voicing this episode in particular lol or maybe when rau first went crazy

[@Matanumi]

Mark Oliver was one of Ocean's best period

[@alexanderdrake7984]

Agreed, that NYAV VA didn't even know what he was doing.

[@nazrulnadziruddin9641]

I still have shivers when I hear his speech as Rau. Mark Oliver is Rau

[@scyfher1180]

I never really liked dubs, but whoever is the guy who did Rau he captured the passion that the original Seiyuu did in the Japanese Gundam Seed, hats off to him.

[@Merwan0121]

Le Creuset is one of my absolute favourite gundam villains ever, for me what makes him great is the fact that his motivation is well thought out. It's clear why he hates humanity and what drew him there.

[@nighthawk2611]

The older I get, the more I see how some of what Rau says is accurate to a degree.

[@christopherfoley8322]

His logic was sound, if you see it from the defeatist view it was, everything he says can also be reversed, people complete to get stronger, they envy to give them the strength to try to achieve something greater than themselves. Its that gray area in the universe

[@Kira22558]

​@@christopherfoley8322nihilistic.

[@Martyn-1337]

Remember what tanya the evil said, humans are foolish creatures who sometimes prize feelings over reason. While Rau may have logical reason to his nihilistic views, not all people are nihilists. Humans are complex. If humans were simple, we would have understood it. We would be so simple that we couldn't.

[@nugget6635]

@@christopherfoley8322 He basically believed that most people were into eugenics and that climbing the highest mountain, fulfilling ambitions such as these are uhm what he calls the desire of mankind. He thinks of mankind as highly narcissistic creatures with no mercy... You talk about envy... Envy is narcissism Number 1 trait... Those are some of the most competitive, domineering, selfish, merciless people that exist... If there are two words that define narcissism are Ruthless and Envious. Rau Le Cruset is a man who believes narcissists are everywhere and that they basically rule over mankind and basically he went full Joker.

[@metalgearexcelsus]

@@christopherfoley8322 the issue is that there's no one to parry his logic in the show itself. Mu and Kira only throw "you're wrong!" at him and that's it.

[@CrypticSquid1]

Thank you for bringing this back to us. I've missed having something to easily point to regarding Mark Oliver's incredible performance here. Rau's descent into open raving frothing madness is one of the reasons the last few episodes of SEED are legit fun television no matter what may be argued about the rest.

[@dalenlewin]

Yeah, we really don't give ocean enough credit. While I do think Funimation is superior in every way, it seems ocean has found their groove at last. In the case of gundam Ceed, I honestly can't tell you which dubbing is better.

[@SinnerChrono]

The rest of the show is a slog to get through having re-watched the show several times since release. But well worth the last 5 or so episodes. For the roller-coaster of emotions from mu's death to flay to rau and kiras battle. Epic Af

[@FarbachViBrittanniaBuildPeace]

TO BE THE STRONGEST TO GO THE FARTHEST TO CLIMB THE HIGHEST TO COMPETE TO ENVY TO HATE EACH OTHER AND DEVOUR ONE ANOTHER

[@lorenzdecena]

I WON'T LET YOUR TWISTED LOGIC MAKE THINGS WORSE.

[@metalgearexcelsus]

@@lorenzdecena But you're too late Mu! You see, I'm the product of all this, THAT'S HOW I KNOW! I KNOW THAT HUMANITY WILL SWALLOWED BY THE DARKNESS IT'S CREATED!

[@seijikun791]

I love this dub so much.

[@NutsItsBerserkinTime]

I love the dub and the sub, all the VA’s do such a good job.

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

He's right and if only I had so little as a GINN with the Assault Shroud to try helping him push corruption into its final spiral into extinction, in the absence of an almighty judge to watch over the creation.

[@invencible373875559]

even tougth there is not movement the speech is so creepy, rau is truly a disturbing yet tragic characther

[@PorgChamp]

Le Creuset: articulates a well thought out argument. Kira: "Nuh Uh!" Le Creuset: "Source?" Kira: 4:24

[@krg-diver4655]

You have no idea how long I have been looking for this video!

[@typesaad]

Same there was a shorter video like this but I can’t find it anymore

[@BurnMyDread2009]

It's still hard to believe that Kira has the same voice has Ed while Athrun is Double D.

[@T4751001]

And Rau is Ninjago's Lord Garmadon

[@aerosdacillo1227]

even in alternate universe Ed and double D are still Friends sad that theres no eddy in Gundam seed

[@NathRebornsK]

Eddy voices Miguel Aiman, you know what I mean.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

Maybe he should have tried to scam Rau to get money for jawbreakers.

[@ShadowGoddess13]

@@NathRebornsK Did not know that! I knew Double D was Athrun and Ed was Kira. That's so cool

[@kirawedderburn]

3:30 Mark Oliver truly nailed it with Rau Le Creuset’s performance and evil laughter. He was definitely the goat for this dub.

[@Xtank425]

Kira: you don’t understand anything else Rau: Of course! After all, people can only understand what they’ve experienced!

[@LatencyProblem]

Jesus, Mark Oliver is going all out here always a pleasure to hear!

[@PatrickBautista_RR3Gamer]

The NYAV dub Rau is voiced by Griffith's VA. But he hasn't reached Mark Oliver's level.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

He has reached beyond mark Oliver’s level.

[@mikegomintong8856]

Its a shame really... I did enjoyed your songs.... But the real world isn't as kind as the one in pop songs....

[@johnathan651]

When this came out, I was just getting into anime, so this whole series pretty much blew my mind at the time. It sounds silly now, but after being raised on stuff like Batman, Spider-Man, and the like, Gundam SEED and InuYasha literally changed my life. I'd always loved cartoons, and realizing there were such amazing, mature stories, not just "little kid crap" as my father called any cartoon at the time, gave me such joy, and got me hooked fo life!

[@linkganonslayer000]

Rau's points are valid; the problem is how he intends to go about with

[@lottidhundabolt4259]

Well there is no nice way to delete humanity...

[@102jayday]

Best voice acting episode ever. Best gundam episode

[@arielhachinto3064]

A memorable dub performance by Mark Oliver himself. Can you upload the dialogue during the episode where Rau reveals to Kira and Mu regarding their origins in that abandoned lab in the same manner as this video?

[@nathancarrington3230]

Rau was right. One of my favorite Gundam villains!! Seed needs him again

[@moatezmoussi9751]

Well his legacy continues

[@ryansrosado]

​@@moatezmoussi9751 yep

[@INSEIKYU01]

Ah now this is the dub I remember

[@dogman-fx9ub]

If done right a live action Gundam movie based on Seed would be pretty awesome.

[@alexk7880]

Please no. As much I wish...modern times will butcher it and twist it to make biases

[@021296MaNu]

Mark Oliver also voices Thresh from League of Legends. He also sounds amazing there.

[@lolhk4386]

He is right This happening again now😢

[@leorojas6390]

"2019" Thanos Was Right "2024" Rau Was Right

[@BurnMyDread2009]

He predicted the future...

[@MoleBradRy]

I haven't heard the english dub in forever.

[@typesaad]

The old ocean dub is far better than the new funimation dub

[@alexanderdrake7984]

​@typesaad not Funimation, it was dubbed by NYAV Post. Some genius just stamped the Funimation logo at the beginning to mislead people. If Funimation had actually dubbed it, it would have been better than what NYAV did to it.

[@mohammedibrahim42]

This anime is masterpiece in anime world history one of the best of the best 🤔

[@limedaleks2851]

As a friend of mine said Rau be spittin facts

[@kaihayase1205]

Rau's Voice Actor Mark Oliver voiced Thundercracker in Transformers Cybertron and the Racing Drone General in Hot Wheels Acceleracers.

[@08415]

from shrewd schemer to insane ranting madness at the end. kudos to Mark Oliver for portraying Rau's progression from the former to the latter in a way that is believable not to mention epic to a point even now i never forget how chilling it felt the first time i heard these rants

[@adlibbed2138]

my man just gives a loose summarization of the upcoming Seed Freedom movie in less than 5 minutes

[@Kira22558]

Rau is a menace.

[@Gernsbacker]

True. Too bad the movie negates Rau's role

[@J4M3S17]

Ive seen the OG mobile suit Gundam and G gundam what should i watch next? Wing or seed?

[@metalgearexcelsus]

@@J4M3S17 I would rather suggest you to watch Zeta, ZZ, Char's Counterattack, Unicorn, Narrative and Hathaway's Flash (read the book btw) as continuities to the original.

[@jaderabbit898]

@@J4M3S17Whatever you think is cool.

[@Tidelore]

Ah 1:13, the ultimate comeback from the ultimate coordinator.

[@travisbur7110]

This music is CRAZY

[@maximus0928]

Thank you for mixing the other voices with creuset. He made this ending one of the best in anime history.

[@justinesun631]

Ngl, as much as I like Toshihiko Seki, Mark Oliver is the definitive Rau for me.

[@mkvenner2]

Mark Oliver basically carried the whole dub.

[@metalgearexcelsus]

I don't remember Garmadon to be this evil.

[@J4M3S17]

The dark side of the human experience

[@arturandreev1412]

To this days for me, the best voice actor and anime character who's voice resembles reality not just in Anime and empathise the how truly fucked world and war. Love it

[@zulmark3]

He's out of line, but he's right 😢

[@typesaad]

If they stayed with the ocean dub it’s would have been better than what we got from funimation

[@venator30jackal79]

The funimation dub doesn't do it justice

[@l.j.nguyen2586]

Ocean English Dub > NYAV English Dub Canadian English Dub is better than the American English Dub for anime like Gundam Seed and even its sequel, Gundam Seed Destiny, eh?

[@vegito386]

Funimation didn't do the redub, Nyav post did.

[@typesaad]

@@vegito386 why do the funimation logo appears at the start?

[@alexanderdrake7984]

​@@typesaadinitially it was first streamed on Funimation and some body thought it was ok to just put the logo in there and it stayed even when it got onto your usual pirated anime sites. But no, if Funimation had actually dubbed it it would have been passable, instead of that disgraceful piece of crap we got instead.

[@DarthBigBen]

You guys know that Mark listened to Hitler’s speeches to capture the intensity for these lines?

[@VB-wf3eq]

Did he really said that?

[@DarthBigBen]

@@VB-wf3eq That’s what he told Trevor Devall.

[@VB-wf3eq]

​@DarthBigBen that was a very interesting insight on that. I did listen to the podcast that Trevor Devall had did with Mark Oliver

[@alexk7880]

​@@VB-wf3eqoh no....people will use that line and possibly slander him by falsely accusing him by cutting the voice line to make ignorant people believe as most aren't anime fans

[@VB-wf3eq]

@@alexk7880 you seen the podcast?

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Rau is too good for this show

[@marshmallowcello7528]

Yea yea join the other Seed haters down at /m/

[@imperial_crest6809]

Lord Garmadon

[@Kira22558]

W.

[@broden4838]

Pity that Avatar didn't have a surprise main antagonist like Cmdr. Rau Le Creuset

[@kyriellepunongbayan6909]

i think im becoming like Rau but powerless

[@astrobearable]

No matter what we learn, no matter what we manage to obtain, nothing ever changes! People are amazing that way! They become envious, hate each other, and destroy each other! If that's what they truly desire, why don't they simply exterminate each other?!I am the only one who has earned that right! In the entire universe, I alone have the right to judge all of humanity!-Rau Le Cruset

[@lorenzdecena]

What gives you the right to sound so superior?!

[@astrobearable]

@@lorenzdecena I am the only one who's earned that right! In the entire universe, I alone have the right to judge all of humanity!

[@marshmallowcello7528]

​@@astrobearablecan't take this seriously coming from a defective designer baby.

[@officialFredDurstfanclub]

He’s too based

[@mkvenner2]

DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?

[@bvellemac4931]

Anthony steven San Juan tagalog dub

[@NathRebornsK]

I think it's Rafael Miranda for Rau Le Creuset.

[@123457474869]

Rau did nothing wrong

[@anti4107]

He was a victim but he was completely corrupted and became pure evil because of all the messed up stuff they did just to create him and the ultimate coordinator

[@mkvenner2]

CHAOS COSUME ME!

[@Addyboy0190]

Seed peaked with LeCruset, he is just a consistent nihilist, Durandal formed the destiny plan because he was rejected by Gladys ei. "if I can't be happy then nobody can, genetics must dictates everything" and that blonde incel from the movie just copy pasted Durandals work as a facade to justify why "it should have been me not him" I mean I'd dare say LeCruset is one of the best villains in any media period In the long run though, if genesis did successfully fire on earth and wipe out half of life on earth, the naturals would be completely demoralized and wouldn't have much resourcs left to fight with half of earth irradiated and the lunar base is also gone while zaft still have the plants and rebuilding its agriculture block any sign of retliation from earth will result in another blast from genesis makin it the perfect deterrant, i mean if genesis did fire on earth would result in a zaft victory and would result in a short to medium term peace, LeCruset's plan would ironically lead to peace with half the population on earth dead but peace nonetheless

[@metalgearexcelsus]

Durandal created the Destiny Plan long before he met up with Talia, although the break-up and loss of Rau had impact on him as well. Wait, I'm seeing the pattern here: Rau - knows nothing about human love Gil - was denied in love (they could've adopt Rey tho) -Glemy- -Ribbons- -Embryo- Orphee - thinks that love requires qualification on genetic level.

[@123457474869]

Genesis DID fire after this, didn't it?

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Rau was too good for this show

[@anti4107]

​@123457474869 it did but athrun did blow it up before it could fire at full power I guess

[@mkvenner2]

SANITY IS FOR THE WEAK!

[@dwainsimmons3447]

What episode is this from

[@alexanderdrake7984]

Final episode

[@VB-wf3eq]

How's the remaster? Or recast of this?

[@lancecurry7538]

It's OK, but Kevin T. Collins (who also voiced Griffith from Berserk) is nowhere near as great as Mark Oliver.

[@LucarioandDialga]

@@lancecurry7538 I googled Mark Oliver, and the picture they chose to make the most prominent of him, which I'm guessing is his most recent picture as he appears the most "aged" in it . . . he literally looks perfectly fitting for an IRL / live-action Rau Le Creuset as well even XD

[@BrightBlurr]

It honestly sounds awful. I couldn't get past episode 2 because Mark Oliver was that good as Rau; he was able to be menacing but still compelling. He didn't sound pure evil. Kevin Collins just sounds as if he's trying to be menacing and evil in a comic way.

[@lancecurry7538]

@@BrightBlurr | I blame it on whoever was directing the Dub. Kevin is a great voice actor, and he does have some good lines as Rau ("BECAUSE I AM WHAT THEY _MADE_ ME!")... but in the end, he seems like he's still trying to be Griffith, not Rau. And whoever was casting the Dub went with it. Rau was defined by Mark Oliver and his magnificent voice, and it's impossible to replicate the astounding energy he exuded as this magnificent bastard ("I AM THE _ONLY_ ONE WHO'S EARNED THAT RIGHT!").

[@BrightBlurr]

@@lancecurry7538 I honestly don't know what Griffith is from, so I can't judge him based on another show. I can only really say that he didn't suit this role. Most of the caste in the Remaster was so poorly directed. So I absolutely agree. The directing for the new dub was awful. I hope they bring back the original dub for any future dubs. It's tragic because Rau is my favourite character and they really dropped the bomb on him.

[@ReahanFn]

Lord garmadon

[@anti4107]

Rau point just gets proven everytime they add on to the seed storyline they will truly never change even though its extremely messed up its just how it is in gundam in general

[@airsir9559]

What is this stupid visual novel edit? Put the actual scene up or don’t put anything up.

[@adlibbed2138]

copyright, Bandai seems to took any unauthorized uploads much seriously, case in point, I've seen enough camcorder footages of SEED Freedom spoiler clips taken out like flies

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Kevin T Collins is still better than Mark Oliver.

[@justinesun631]

Nope. Much as I like Kevin T. Collins (I mean, he IS Griffith), Mark Oliver IS Rau.

[@ryansrosado]

Hell no mark Oliver is better

[@venator30jackal79]

He simply doesn't capture the essence of who rau is compared to Mark Oliver

[@alexanderdrake7984]

Kevin's Rau sounds like the guy who got rejected for the lead in Phantom of the Opera and can't take a hint.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

⁠@@venator30jackal79 it did captured Oliver but it a more realistic voice.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

What episode is this from

[@itachi65ful]

The second last episode.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

@@itachi65ful I can say Kevin T Collins is better

[@justinesun631]

@@dwainsimmons3447 Nope.

[@ryansrosado]

​@@dwainsimmons3447 no and no

[@venator30jackal79]

​@@dwainsimmons3447not as Rau